actually what is the different between these kinds of rom?which is really more powerful?im just wonder,i hope tat some really know ppl would help me to answer this
Also I am interested in this.
AOSP= firmware found in Nexus S/Nexus One/Galaxy Nexus
Oxygen= Highly optimized AOSP
Oxygen is an AOSP source built ROM (ie. not a mod of any sense based ROM), it's minimal, it's superfast and mostly bugfree. As Oxygen is not a mod/port of any HTC/CyanogenMod or any other ROM and may not be to everyones liking, it's minimalistic and basic but any idea and suggestion for improving the ROM are welcome.
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CM7= Optimized AOSP with many many many customizations available .
CyanogenMod Roms are developed open source and with many features you would not find in a normal Rom.
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From google and andy info that pm-ed to me:
1st, AOSP is started by google team, and google release it with a new phone. For Example nexusone(froyo) with htc, nexusS(gingerbread) with samsung.
2nd, CodeAurora is made by manufacture that use Android as operating system on their phone. For example android gingerbread 2.3.3 official for LG P500 (ported by LGE)
3rd, CM is made by a billion people that want to customize their phone. As andy said, cm is designed for port to another device, so sometimes the code is not optimized.
4th, oxygen is made from AOSP code, that optimized and simple...
Sorry for my bad english..
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OK I spent eight hours yesterday figuring out how to root my phone.... Success... I was finally able to figure it out.. Thanks for all the tutorials and posts that helped me do it...
I would love some direction in how to find some cool and neat and SAFE AND STABLE Roms to flash.. Is there a site with roms to choose from?? Any help or suggestions is appreciated....
Thank you again everybody
Just look in the android development section in the international forums. Viper rom is really nice, so is Arhd.
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I second ARHD. It depends whether you like sense and want to keep it without all the bloatware, or try something more pure android. I know Google edition ROM is out now, but I like sense too much to try it. Heres some links to arhd and ge.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2183023
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2356654
Ok great thanks for the help.... I just got home from work and can't wait to spend the rest of the day flashing different roms.. Lol. What fun! This is a thousand times better than jail breaking... I was never able to flash different firm wares on an iPhone... This is a thousand times better
Pro tip: almost all roms on here are stable and safe unless they have alpha or beta in the title
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Nick281051 said:
Pro tip: almost all roms on here are stable and safe unless they have alpha or beta in the title
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Thank you for the "pro tip." I love this place.. I'm running a GPE rom and having fun... I think I want to flash something I can theme with a lot of choices... I'll look around and see if I can find a rom around here that people are theming... Thanks again
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Thank you for the "pro tip." I love this place.. I'm running a GPE rom and having fun... I think I want to flash something I can theme with a lot of choices... I'll look around and see if I can find a rom around here that people are theming... Thanks again
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For maximum themeing capabilities you can go with any of the AOSP (Android Open Source Project) based roms like Cyanogenmod (CM) AOKP, Vanilla rootbox, Slimbean, etc. They all support custom theming with hundreds uf not thousands of downloadable comaptible theme files in the Google Play store.
They are much more customizable than the GPe roms as well. But be warned, what you gain in customizability and cool factor you may tradeoff in optimal function of the phone features itself, namely camera, sound, call audio quality and BT call/streaming audio reliability.
The reason is because GPe and vanilla android 4.2.2 may look identical on the surface, but are different underneath. The GPe of the One runs on a stock Sense OS heavily modified to look and work like vanilla Android IU, but the underlying OS framework works best with the HTC hardware. While AOSP roms have hardware compatibility issues. You'll see this is a regular issue on those threads. I was using CM until the GPe roms were released. I loved the user options on CM and AOKP but was frustrated by terrible call quality and unstable BT connections. I switched to one of the GPe based roms and I gave up some cool features, but my phone works too well as a phone now to switch back.
Most people using GPe based roms are hoping the developers will adopt and incorporate the cool custom ideas from CM based roms like UI options, themes, adjustable control tile toggles, navigation bar mods, etc.
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For maximum themeing capabilities you can go with any of the AOSP (Android Open Source Project) based roms like Cyanogenmod (CM) AOKP, Vanilla rootbox, Slimbean, etc. They all support custom theming with hundreds uf not thousands of downloadable comaptible theme files in the Google Play store.
They are much more customizable than the GPe roms as well. But be warned, what you gain in customizability and cool factor you may tradeoff in optimal function of the phone features itself, namely camera, sound, call audio quality and BT call/streaming audio reliability.
The reason is because GPe and vanilla android 4.2.2 may look identical on the surface, but are different underneath. The GPe of the One runs on a stock Sense OS heavily modified to look and work like vanilla Android IU, but the underlying OS framework works best with the HTC hardware. While AOSP roms have hardware compatibility issues. You'll see this is a regular issue on those threads. I was using CM until the GPe roms were released. I loved the user options on CM and AOKP but was frustrated by terrible call quality and unstable BT connections. I switched to one of the GPe based roms and I gave up some cool features, but my phone works too well as a phone now to switch back.
Most people using GPe based roms are hoping the developers will adopt and incorporate the cool custom ideas from CM based roms like UI options, themes, adjustable control tile toggles, navigation bar mods, etc.
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The Sense version isn't heavily modified to look like Vanilla, its heavily modified to look like Sense. All carriers start with vanilla.
As for the features--because there's a Google Play Edition (GPE). The GPE devices run vanilla android--what we call AOSP, after the Android Open Source Project...which is the project Google created in order to "Open Source" Android, make it available to everyone, and provide for a "Google Experience".
The Google Experience" comes stock on the Google Play Edition devices, and guarantees that the device comes the way Android is/was intended to be, and is designed far better in terms of functionality and usability than the Firmware(s) created by Samsung, HTC, and other manufacturers, which add additional software to run on top of the Google Experience software in order to differentiate themselves from one another, and be able to say that their phones are better. In reality their software might look better and have a few extra features, but it's slower, can take years to update, and in the end, is often more restrictive.
Because these devices require Google certification, all features are required to be in working order. And because Android is so modular, you're guaranteed to have all the drivers, libraries, etc. you need to use all the base hardware available on the device. This means that beats audio, Wifi , Bluetooth, GPS, 3d, Sound, etc. Will all work. The only thing that won't work is the IR blaster on top of the device (for turning your device into a universal remote control to change channels with on your TV, blue ray player, etc. ), and since updates come from the manufacturer and not Google, it's believed that an update may enable this in the future.
By the way, Engadget did a side by side during their review, and stated that picture quality wasn't any better on the Sense version---which means that you'll get great photos on both devices.
That's the reality. Some have made some wild speculations, and have come to some wild conclusions (entirely subjective and disproved), but this all comes from extremely authoritative reviewers...people who are given devices and whos career depends on spending a ton of time analysing these devices, and getting it right.
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The Sense version isn't heavily modified to look like Vanilla, its heavily modified to look like Sense. All carriers start with vanilla.
As for the features--because there's a Google Play Edition (GPE). The GPE devices run vanilla android--what we call AOSP, after the Android Open Source Project...which is the project Google created in order to "Open Source" Android, make it available to everyone, and provide for a "Google Experience".
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Thanks but you're misinterpreting what I was saying.
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CleanROM 3.0 <stock look and feel with added performance and perks
Just so I understand this correctly, if we need to get S-OFF to flash ROMs such as Viper due to it being 1.28, correct?
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nope s-off is not needed. If you still can, obtain the unlock key from HTCDEV.com and use that to unlock your bootloader (this will wipe your phone completely), install a custom recovery such as CWM or TWRP, then install either superuser or supersu for the root
Then flash away
1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU7vi388dMk
2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRkAHw_GmIs
Thank you so much! So what exactly does S-OFF allow you to do besides customizing the bootloader?
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Thank you so much! So what exactly does S-OFF allow you to do besides customizing the bootloader?
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Restore your phone completely back to pre-rooted stock condition with the stock Sense ruu. Just like when you got it from the store.
Also is required if you want to reflash/update the phone firmware (which will completely wipe out phone data just like unlocking the bootloader).
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Restore your phone completely back to pre-rooted stock condition with the stock Sense ruu. Just like when you got it from the store.
Also is required if you want to reflash/update the phone firmware (which will completely wipe out phone data just like unlocking the bootloader).
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And do we need to update the firmware to install any of these ROMs?
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And do we need to update the firmware to install any of these ROMs?
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NO.
Stop being so fixated on updating your firmware. Read more and ask fewer questions.
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I have been using CM based ROMs for a year, but now I am curious about the Samsung based ROMs (Rooted, deodexed, without bloatware and such) I have read the FAQ thread, but it does not offer me a proper explanation about the differences between CM and Samsung. Only that Samsung ROMs are "smoother". So I am asking in this thread for a wider explanation and to solve some questions I have:
-Why are there more Samsung ROMs than AOSP? Sure that the CM ROMs get more updated, and that people here love open sourcing, but I am curious about this fact.
-Are AOSP ROMs more suited for a "liberated" device? Samsung has closed the hardware sources of the GS3, and thats why the AOSP devs can not release a full working AOSP ROM. At least until Samsung decides to release the sources...
-Also, the Samsung based development is depending on the official updates provided by Samsung right? So the day Samsung drops the service, should we use AOSP instead?
-What is the cuality of a Samsung based ROM? Its much better that the official Touchwiz ROM?
-Its true that the Samsung ROMs have a much better sound than the CM ROMs, or it is vice versa? I am quite an audiophile, so this point interests me.
Lastly, I would like that you could solve me a question. One day, I changed from a CM10.1 ROM to a custom 4.1.2. When I did this, I could not use the Google Backup on my apps, and, for example, I could not recover the Whatsapp conversations. Moreover, I could not access to the SD card through the File Explorer in that ROM. So, is this a common compatibility problem between AOPS and Touchwiz or it is more of a ROM issue?
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-Why are there more Samsung ROMs than AOSP? Sure that the CM ROMs get more updated, and that people here love open sourcing, but I am curious about this fact.
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They're easy to create, plenty of updated versions from samsung and a lot of people prefer them
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-Are AOSP ROMs more suited for a "liberated" device? Samsung has closed the hardware sources of the GS3, and thats why the AOSP devs can not release a full working AOSP ROM. At least until Samsung decides to release the sources...
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Question doesn't make sense. IMHO, there are more useful and configurable settings in aosp. Downfall of closed sources are camera quality and possibly battery life
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-Also, the Samsung based development is depending on the official updates provided by Samsung right? So the day Samsung drops the service, should we use AOSP instead?
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Yes we need rom bases and kernel source code from samsung. Once samsung drop kernel source for the s3, aosp development will slow down considerably
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-What is the cuality of a Samsung based ROM? Its much better that the official Touchwiz ROM?
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What? If you mean quality,.its much the same with some tweaks to enhance performance, user experience etc. If you're rooted and not using a samsung based custom rom, you're missing out
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-Its true that the Samsung ROMs have a much better sound than the CM ROMs, or it is vice versa? I am quite an audiophile, so this point interests me.
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Apparently but I've not noticed a difference. I listen to a lot of music and am completely satisfied. That said, if there is a difference - it would be understandable
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Lastly, I would like that you could solve me a question. One day, I changed from a CM10.1 ROM to a custom 4.1.2. When I did this, I could not use the Google Backup on my apps, and, for example, I could not recover the Whatsapp conversations. Moreover, I could not access to the SD card through the File Explorer in that ROM. So, is this a common compatibility problem between AOPS and Touchwiz or it is more of a ROM issue?
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This is an android 4.2 thing. Follow link in my signature to sticky roll-up. I wrote a thread about 4.2 sdcard data you should read
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Top and bottom is its users choice . With a nandroid it takes a short time to test .
Personally i cannot stand AOKP/AOSP .
Sound you have got to give this a try IRS open up a whole new world of sound outputs .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2191223
So, I know that feature wise Paranoid Android, CyanogenMod, and Carbon have different features allowing you to tweak your phone in different ways. What I've begun wondering lately is outside of features are there any major differences in the way they are created that would be of interest?
I know that CyanogenMod has been the base for many, many roms and features have been added to it in creation of new roms. What I've begun to wonder more recently is besides features what really separates them? Are they mostly CyanogenMod with code needed as required to support new features? or are they tweaked in ways to be different from CyanogenMod in other ways?
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So, I know that feature wise Paranoid Android, CyanogenMod, and Carbon have different features allowing you to tweak your phone in different ways. What I've begun wondering lately is outside of features are there any major differences in the way they are created that would be of interest?
I know that CyanogenMod has been the base for many, many roms and features have been added to it in creation of new roms. What I've begun to wonder more recently is besides features what really separates them? Are they mostly CyanogenMod with code needed as required to support new features? or are they tweaked in ways to be different from CyanogenMod in other ways?
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I know that, back in the day, PA was based off of CM. Now, most of them including PA, CM and Carbon are based off of AOSP which is just stock Android. In terms of features, Carbon and PAC seem to have the most features including PA's way of changing the DPI on a per app basis.
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Hello,
First I want to thank everyone that contributed in development of software for our Samsung Galaxy Ace II. Especially Team Canjica, Rox and many many others!
Jolla, the producent of Sailfish OS, has just released the LibHybris 1.0, which allows the devs to build the Sailfish OS for ANY Android device running CyanogenMod 10.1. It is THE BIG CHANCE for our device!
Sailfish OS is a lot faster and smoother OS than Android. Our device with just 768 MB RAM and dual core Novathor CPU should perform a lot better on Sailfish than on Android. And it is possible to run Android apps on Sailfish too!
http://www.jollausers.com/2014/07/sailfish-os-hardware-adaptation-dev-kit-release-1-0/
So I want to ask our great community to try to port Sailfish OS for our device. We have the very good working CM 10.1, so we should try! It can be the second life for our device
I hope we will start the great discussion and the devs will be helpful
Please, port this amazing system to Ace II
Cheers
I dig this! If someone wanted to develop this i would be happy to try this os.
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Even though I'm migrating to the fastest android phone ever, if SailfishOS is released for the Ace 2, I would be a VERY happy man! Please make it happen! Many of us don't use the Ace 2 for 3D gaming anyway, so a lack of apps on SailfishOS is negligible! :good:
Any response from developers?
Well, i do not know how it's done, but cm 10.1.x is quite slower, than 10.2's, so wouldn't be lost what is gained?
Only the kernel from CM 10.1 is used for drivers purposes. Anything else is just pure Sailfish, and it should be A LOT MORE FLUID AND FAST than any Android version.
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Only the kernel from CM 10.1 is used for drivers purposes. Anything else is just pure Sailfish, and it should be A LOT MORE FLUID AND FAST than any Android version.
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...if you say so..ok, thx for clarification. but you know , that newer kernels(10.2 minimum) are main source of speed of actual roms? Even not roms itself, you know..
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...if you say so..ok, thx for clarification. but you know , that newer kernels(10.2 minimum) are main source of speed of actual roms? Even not roms itself, you know..
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I dont think that kernel in CM 10.1 is a lot different than kernel from CM 11. We must ask @Rox, but I think that backporting some features from CM11's kernel wont be too hard. Lets hope so
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I dont think that kernel in CM 10.1 is a lot different than kernel from CM 11. We must ask @Rox, but I think that backporting some features from CM11's kernel wont be too hard. Lets hope so
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...well, optimist, good luck..
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...well, optimist, good luck..
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I think they are a realist myself, as this is an old, yet highly dev supported, phone, and due to it's rubbish GPU, will highly benefit from SailfishOS, as 3D games are useless on this device.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/jolla-sailfish/general/hakd-release-1-0-t2820012
Also, this.
Supposedly most android apps should be compatible too so this should be a fun experience
No one is interested in porting it?
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As far ad I know, android apps work only on the original jolla phone. Porting does not support them yet.
Source: a friend of mine installed it on the nexus 4
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Hi don't get me wrong IS looks great but don't know about devs.. To be honest here is lack of drugs and I think that for android L wait more people than for this.... On the other hand would be use full to contact someone from other teams that have recently ported the latest versions to ace2 if they don't plan to do it again... But this is not you have asked for.... I know. But the community for android is bigger sorry for that and clean one runs the smoothest yeah not clean but with lot of use full features like from carbon.... But if there is a def that likes this more than android l... Would be happy to try also this out.... But have to pedal for community too to consider the total demand over local projects
just my guess, android 5.0 needs updated binary whilst the sailfish need only binary up to cm 10.1
so there will be a bit performance gap because of driver needed
but well that was just a wild guess :cyclops::cyclops::cyclops:
Hi guys,
I trust you are doing well!
I was just wondering, I mean, I know CM is very popular among the droid community, but the AOSP does still rank up there and tbh it's my favourite. I was hoping by now to see a couple of iterations of that amazing rom, but unfortunately the only one I saw was by MrColdbird and it seems to be a project that has been discontinued. So, I was wondering is there any reason no dev are working on the AOSP and is there any hope of seeing a proper iteration of that rom released for our beast the RN3 SD?
There are a few AOSP in roms in there they have the tag [AOSP]
I am using Krexus, it's AOSP based and really working well. Also there is slim 6.