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I had a BIG problem with a third party battery charger (RIMAX).
It is a Car charger and a wall mount charger, with USB plug and cable, but IT WORKS ONLY WHEN THE WIZARD IS ON! If the battery goes down for some reason and the phone couldn't turn on, you're lost! :evil:
So, the lesson learned is: before travelling without your original charger check if the one you have could charge the wizard also when is OFF and not only in stand-by mode!
I also have a strange issue with a third party car charger - after plugging in the car charger I have to switch the universal off then on again to make it charge...very wierd!
I've also got one of those, though would prefere one with a bit of cable in the middle to reduce stress on the connector.
Have you checked the amp output on the chargers. They're probably putting out 0.5 amps (USB spec). If you look at the wall charger that came with the wizard, it puts out 1.0 amps. That's why when your battery is completely dead, the 0.5 amp charger can't put enough juice into it to get the battery up to a high enough level.
Actually, according to the USB spec, a device is not supposed to consume more than 100mA without being recognized by the USB host. That is, the USB host is only going to give your phone 100mA until the phone says, "hey, i'd like 500mA, please!"
Sometimes manufacturers may shortcut this and just allow the port 500mA at all times, but a standards-conforming one won't.
This MAY be part of the reason why we have problems charging a completely dead Wizard -- it's only going to get 100mA until the device has enough juice to wake up and request more.
This MAY be part of the reason why we have problems charging a completely dead Wizard -- it's only going to get 100mA until the device has enough juice to wake up and request more.
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Ah! - That's the problem I had yesterday - had left my Vario on with TomTom draining away the battery and forgotten about it on Saturday night, had just spent the day moving house and everything was in chaos and had no idea where the charger was.
So when I realised it was dead on Sunday whilst out in the car, I plugged it into the car charger that came with my GPS unit, which I have used to charge the phone many times before - but it would not charge, no light, nothing!
When I got home all I could find was the mains charger for the GPS and a USB cable - tried both and none would put any charge into the phone.
By this stage I was shi**ing myself that the phone, which I got mainly for GPS for travelling around Germany in June, was DEAD - with 3 weeks to go!
of course later in the day, once I had eventually found the proper charger, it took a slight pause after being plugged in and then the little orange light of joy came on and brought me salvation!!!!!
I suspected it might have been something like the previous poster said but not being very technical I really didn't know!!
Thanks.
I've had the same frustrating experience. When the battery is very low or dead the only charger that will work is the original adapter, not the car charger or cradle or pass thru my laptop. As I result I have to carry the original adapter whenever I travel and I often wake up with a dead Wizard if I dont realize how low the battery is when I park it in the cradle.
Very frustrating. I dont understand why Boxwave doesnt use a beefier adapter connected to the cradle.
I've had the same frustrating experience. When the battery is very low or dead the only charger that will work is the original adapter, not the car charger or cradle or pass thru my laptop. As I result I have to carry the original adapter whenever I travel and I often wake up with a dead Wizard if I dont realize how low the battery is when I park it in the cradle.
Very frustrating. I dont understand why Boxwave doesnt use a beefier adapter connected to the cradle.
I've had the same frustrating experience. When the battery is very low or dead the only charger that will work is the original adapter, not the car charger or cradle or pass thru my laptop. As I result I have to carry the original adapter whenever I travel and I often wake up with a dead Wizard if I dont realize how low the battery is when I park it in the cradle.
Very frustrating. I dont understand why Boxwave doesnt use a beefier adapter connected to the cradle.
I believe that there is an issue with charging performance in the Atrix car dock. I'm using the OEM Motorola ECOMOTO Rapid Rate vehicle power adapter (850 mAH) with dual USB ports. You can tell this USB charger is a good product just by the weight of the thing! A test charge in the Atrix car dock began at 7:45 AM and the phone's charge was 20%. At 9 AM 30% and 10:30 AM 40%. This is obviously nothing like the wall charger so it made me believe that the phone was powered by the charger while docked but only receiving a trickle charge. Connecting the phone directly to the USB car charger (without the car dock) using a stock USB to micro USB charging cable, at 8:00 AM the phone was at 20%, 8:20 AM 40%, 9:00 AM 70% and 10:00 AM 100%. What a contrast!! So it appears that there is an issue with charging performance while in the car dock. I've reported this to Motorola and hope that they can reproduce and address. How about the rest of you, what say you all?
Mine charges fine. I have the moto - 2usb port charger and it powers the phone in the dock just fine (mine is Y shaped and ships with the MotoBranded car dock, not AT&T).
Mine charges just like the wall charger - both put out 850mA. If I am running Nav in the car dock, and screen is on, it charges slower - but this is to be expected.
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If I am running Nav in the car dock, and screen is on, it charges slower - but this is to be expected.
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I find when driving around during the day with the screen always on, taking the occasional call and GPS/Navigation running most of the time (not sure, just love seeing my KM/H sitting up there helps keep my heavy right foot off the go pedal) that my battery slowly slinks up in % almost like it's not charging due to the load I have on it.
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Hello
I know its old thread and no one is interested anymore but I found out that Atrix is giving power back to the vehicle when connected to the car dock.
I have a Cigar lighter slot hub with an LED indicator. The LED remains glowing when I turn off my car and leave Atrix in the Car Dock. I found out that ACC are having power until Atrix battery is empty.
Even if I unplug the HUB from the car, LED remains glowing, but battery drain seems not that high than connected to the car.
Once I remove the Atrix and put it back, LED is not glowing again, so I think it has something to do with the Car Dock and the Atrix software. (not sure)
I'm trying to make a work around with relay...
Has anyone noticed that phone does not charge while using GPS. The charging indicator is on but when I look at the stats it says discharging at -450 mAh. Is this the way it is and if so, is there a fix? 1 hr 42 m with 73% display on battery use and 43% charge remaining, but was plugged in the entire time while driving under an hour home. I am using the same Motorola high performance charger that every other phone is charged fully even when using GPS.
are you absolutely sure the charger is giving the full 1A?
What sensor app are you using to see the battery discharging?
Mine charges normally with gps on.
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I was curious so I tested this with "Battery Monitor" I have it plugged into my laptop currently which only gives +500mA. and not the +1A that you get from a wall/car/high power usb port.
the app is showing +257mA with GPS on and functioning normally.
So charging good here... Might be something with your motorola charger? It could have a sensor in it to detect 'trickle charging mode' that is improperly engaging when connected to the HTC causing the charger to put out a minimal 'sustain only' level of amperage.
good luck!
you need a charger putting out 1A ... most car chargers put out 500mA so find a good one off monoprice
Here's what I'm doing. I have a Belkin 2.1A(2100mAh) USB car charger dongle. The problem is, once i connect the USB cable to it the phone registers it as "Charging USB" and does notcharge anywhere near as fast(power-wise) as if the phone was registering it "Charging AC". I'm not keen on using a power inverter to get the full AC charge so instead i am going to go pick up a cheap micro USB cable, splice it open, then disconnect the data wires(green & white ones) & then tape it back up. By disconnecting the data wires, the phone will no longer think it's a USB connection and then charge via AC, getting the best charge possible.
that should work ^ if thats the problem
I've found that using the included USB cable with a Belkin dual port USB car charger allows the phone to charge as if it were plugged in to a wall. I'm guessing the included cable has a different layout than standard Micro USB cables.
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I've found that using the included USB cable with a Belkin dual port USB car charger allows the phone to charge as if it were plugged in to a wall. I'm guessing the included cable has a different layout than standard Micro USB cables.
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I'm guessing that I have the same belkin dual port (2.1amp and 1amp ports) and the best I've seen out of it is about 250mah charging. This is using the supplied usb/micro hdmi whatever cord for the phone.
I have seen discharge rates off the charger of 750mah which is the highest I've seen on any phone. I'm guessing if you are using the nav on your phone with the screen on, it will probably still be using battery while plugged in.
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I was curious so I tested this with "Battery Monitor" I have it plugged into my laptop currently which only gives +500mA. and not the +1A that you get from a wall/car/high power usb port.
the app is showing +257mA with GPS on and functioning normally.
So charging good here... Might be something with your motorola charger? It could have a sensor in it to detect 'trickle charging mode' that is improperly engaging when connected to the HTC causing the charger to put out a minimal 'sustain only' level of amperage.
good luck!
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Possible, but says AC charging in Battery Monitor widget. I will post a few pics.
Here are a few Pics. you can see a couple of things.
-Charger rated at 950 MA out. and no other phone I have owned lost a charge while driving including TBolt, Charge, Bionic.
-Shows as AC charging
- Spikes of good charging detected
Put on Normal power mode today on the way in. live wallpapers did not wrok, just flickered. 3G on vice 4G. Battery still went down, but above 90% on 40 minute drive in. Screen low but on. Bluetooth speaker.
Maybe it is the iBolt car mount. See review online. will try without dock this afternoon on my way home.
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User: marc frederick, Nov 25, 2011
Pros: Options for different backs
Cons: Does not charge the phone while it is in use
Try playing pandora when the phone is 100 charged. After 45 minutes on the car mount (and yes it is plugged into a charger and all indicatros show it is charging) and the charge level is 84. Using the same charger but plugged into the phone, playing Pandora for 45 min starting charge level 68. Ending charge level is 100.
Yeah, something is telling that charger to not give you full juice
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ok, drove home off the window mount and just on charger, all same except full brightness on screen.40 minute drive. came up 7% battery vice down from 100 to 43%. nedd a few trials to confirm, but looks like window mount is throttleing juice.
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are you absolutely sure the charger is giving the full 1A?
What sensor app are you using to see the battery discharging?
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i have seen spurts up to 913 with GPS off and screen just turned on. Using battery monitor widget. Not on window mount, just charger.
I can confirm. The car dock will not charge your phone atleast not with the screen on and nothing else running but battery monitor widget.
I bought one and tested it extensively yesterday. I used a Verizon 1a charger and a generic 1a charger. With the dock and both chargerz the phone DIScharged(as in LOST battery power) at between 100ma and 200ma. Without the dock using the same chargers and changing nothing on the phone the phone charged at between 50a and 300ma.
I did the test several times to eliminate any random things the phone may have been doing in the background.
After doing that controlled test I played with it some more and no matter what I did I could not get a positive charge with the dock attached even in airplane mode with the screen backlight at minimum. Without the dock using the same chargers i ran Pandora and a police scanner both outputting through the phone speaker, gps, wifi, mobile all on, and screen on auto and still had a very small positive charge.
Moral of the story DO NOT BUY THIS DOCK unless you dont mind it just being a piece of plastic that holds your phone in place.
I wonder if there's a quick mod to it to get it working right. Like the soldering of the USB chargers I've seen.
Rezound
I just went ahead and bought an extra battery so I wouldn't have to charge in the car. Only takes 20 seconds to pop in a new battery.
Can charge both batts while I sleep at night.
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I was looking for a high current charger for my Android tablet and there was a review that talked about compatibility. Some of the high cap chargers appear to be designed for Apple products and the pin wiring is subtly different. So, on some non-Apple products, the charge is only recognized as a lower power, 500mah charger and the users reported that some devices would normally charge and others would not. Some of the dual port charges also split the power. The 2.1 amp port and the 1 amp port cannot be used at the same time, depending on what is plugged into them. This was also brand specific. I ordered the Amazon Basics 2.1 amp dual charger and will see how that works. I have noticed a difference in charge rates between my Motorola charger left over from the Blackberry and the Verizon OEM one. The VZW one is faster.
I do the same thing I have been doing since my Windows phone days.
I use the AC cord plugged into a 12v to AC adaptor(screen set to 100% bright and no timeout).
I drove 6 hours last week ruuning Google Maps/GPS & my battery was 100% charged when I got to my destination.
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Hello everyone,
I have my 32GB TF201 with docking that I purchased 3 weeks ago. After I purchased I was able to charge my table directly thru outlet twice and once thru the dock. This week the tablet ran out of battery. I plugged it to the outlet with an empty battery and yellowish light was on. In the morning (after 6 hours of charging) I checked and the light was still yellowish. I said 'what the hell' and left home for work. When I came back I checked and saw that the battery was only charged to ~9%. I re-checked the outlet and it was not charging. The battery icon appears when I plug the cable but the status is 'Not charging' and it actually is not charging. I could then charge the dock thru the same outlet and usb cable up to 100%. I also could charge the tablet thru the dock's battery. the only problem is between the charger and the tablet itself. I will still take it to the service but I can still listen to ideas to check in the weekend.
Thanks a lot.
You probably have a busted charge port on the tablet itself. Try plugging the tablet to the computer and see if it registers. If not, more than likely the charge port on the tablet is broken.
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You probably have a busted charge port on the tablet itself. Try plugging the tablet to the computer and see if it registers. If not, more than likely the charge port on the tablet is broken.
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that was the one thing I did not check and I will today. but the tablet is being charged from the dock that is connected thru the same port.
I am having the same no charging issue, but I do not have a dock. The device recognizes the computer just fine when I plug into that, but into the wall, I get nothing. Even when connected to the computer, all the connection info pops up (usb debugging, asus sync, etc) but it does not charge. Problem started this morning.
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I am having the same no charging issue, but I do not have a dock. The device recognizes the computer just fine when I plug into that, but into the wall, I get nothing. Even when connected to the computer, all the connection info pops up (usb debugging, asus sync, etc) but it does not charge. Problem started this morning.
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sorry to hear that but still good to know that I am not the only one I will update this thread when and if I get a response from the service. please let me know if you find the reason or a solution to this problem
cheers
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sorry to hear that but still good to know that I am not the only one I will update this thread when and if I get a response from the service. please let me know if you find the reason or a solution to this problem
cheers
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Okay, I first had this issue last night. Unplugging and plugging it back in fixed it at the time. Then this morning, I couldn't get it to charge at all (replugging it in multiple times) via AC or USB (though it did recognize the other USB things like it should). I managed to find a dock in stock nearby finally and picked one up today. Plugging the tablet into the dock charges off the dock like it should, and plugging in the dock charges it like it should. Now, miraculously, when I unplug the tablet from the dock and plug it back into the wall via AC, it works again.
So, don't know what exactly the issue is, or how exactly to fix it, but at least it seems to have fixed itself for the moment. And, now I have the dock if this happens again
hey there. i took the tablet to the service but to my luck the unit is flagged as 'defective on arrival' and I had to return it. I guess it was a ahrdware issue. I could not take a new one since the reseller was out of stock of TF-201. I am waiting for it to become available.
Wow - my tablet would not charge at all last night as I ran out of battery. I tried all the outlets in my hotel room and my PC, but it just seemed like the charge port was dead. I noticed that the trim around the charge port was a bit deformed, so the plastic part that abuts the bezel was not straight.
Anyways - I get to the office this morning and plug it in and now its charging - whew! This is eventually going for RMA since the HDMI is completely dead, and now it does seem the charge port is a bit loose. I am concerned it will happen again just when I need it!
Very frustrated with the quality issues - it's just harshin' my buzz with this tablet.
I've switched through three different primes (with issues unrelated to this) but I seem to notice that all of the chargers are like this. It seems like a security feature or bug (not sure) but if you keep the charger plugged into the outlet, it auto shuts off the charging adapter after being plugged in for a prolong period of time. If you take the charger out, leave it unplugged for an hour or two, then plug it back in. It will work again. All three of the primes I got do this. So I just remember to unplug the charger and don't leave it plugged in and the issue doesn't seem to happen anymore.
btw just a heads up:
- USB won't charge on computers unless your usb port is usb 3.0. If your usb is 2.0 it will only charge on idle (which you won't be able to tell really)
- Dock won't charge the tablet unless the tablet runs around 75% battery (sometimes higher sometimes lower) its in the FAQ
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Okay, I first had this issue last night. Unplugging and plugging it back in fixed it at the time. Then this morning, I couldn't get it to charge at all (replugging it in multiple times) via AC or USB (though it did recognize the other USB things like it should). I managed to find a dock in stock nearby finally and picked one up today. Plugging the tablet into the dock charges off the dock like it should, and plugging in the dock charges it like it should. Now, miraculously, when I unplug the tablet from the dock and plug it back into the wall via AC, it works again.
So, don't know what exactly the issue is, or how exactly to fix it, but at least it seems to have fixed itself for the moment. And, now I have the dock if this happens again
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This is the exact replication of what's occurring with my TF201 with the exception that it is still not charging directly plugged into the tablet after I remove from the dock.
weird trick
I think this might be due to how some devices recognize power, i have the same issue with my iPod touch. I found that if you take the charger wire with adapter attached and plug that into the tab, then plug that into the wall it should normally work. My brother was having this issue also with his dock not charging, and this method makes it work.
Well, called ASUS support and got an RMA to send it in. Apparently something's wrong.
i was shopping for a oem Car dock that would work with our phones but also fit any case i wanted to put in the dock so heres the solution im ordering mine this week
http://www.amazon.com/iBolt-Vehicle-Car-Mount-Dock/dp/B008B0WNA6
Did you get it? How did it work out?
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I've seen this one on amazon, Kidigi usually makes good quality stuff and - as it looks - comes with the insert as well so it could be used w and w/o case
http://www.amazon.com/Car-Charger-M...2&keywords=kidigi+charging+car+dock+htc+one+x
...comparison with the price of the iBolt ...looks like the same device to me.
I've had the iBolt car dock for a few days now, and it's working fine. It's a little clunky compared to my old Atrix car dock. I don't have a case on my phone, and the clamp on the top seems to sit on top more than grab it, but the phone is snug in there.
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I've had the iBolt car dock for a few days now, and it's working fine. It's a little clunky compared to my old Atrix car dock. I don't have a case on my phone, and the clamp on the top seems to sit on top more than grab it, but the phone is snug in there.
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Have you had any charging issues with yours?
When it goes into car mode and navigation is on, it barely charges if at all.
I spoke with iBolt and they are sending me a new one. Hopefully this resolves the issue.
I am still curious if anyone else is having this issue.
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Have you had any charging issues with yours?
When it goes into car mode and navigation is on, it barely charges if at all.
I spoke with iBolt and they are sending me a new one. Hopefully this resolves the issue.
I am still curious if anyone else is having this issue.
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The issue isn't the charger but the USB cable not being shorted to put phone into AC charging. Pins 4&5 need to be shorted to allow this to happen. I ordered two of these http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007F1DV76/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i00
to go along with this http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008B2EFA0/ref=oh_details_o05_s00_i00
and has allowed me to use the HOX+ for hours of navigation and still charge the phone.
For car dock I use this: http://www.slipgripcarmounts.com/SlipGrip-Vent-Holder-For-HTC-ONE-X-S720E-Using-Seidio-Surface-Case_p_130568.html
I agree that the ibolt is a little clunky but i love it. Its really sturdy. It stays in the position you locked it down at. It's easy to dock the phone with 1 hand. I havent noticed any charging issues but i'll keep an eye on that now that you mentioned it.
interesting
and to think i was going to try and mod my Atrix toys to see if i could make them work.. .this looks way easier, wonder why they dont include the proper cable in the first place or if there are any other docks similar
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The issue isn't the charger but the USB cable not being shorted to put phone into AC charging. Pins 4&5 need to be shorted to allow this to happen. I ordered two of these http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007F1DV76/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i00
to go along with this http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008B2EFA0/ref=oh_details_o05_s00_i00
and has allowed me to use the HOX+ for hours of navigation and still charge the phone.
For car dock I use this: http://www.slipgripcarmounts.com/SlipGrip-Vent-Holder-For-HTC-ONE-X-S720E-Using-Seidio-Surface-Case_p_130568.html
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Hello,
Well it's been quite some time but I didn't wanna open a new thread for this.
I'm using the iBolt dock for my HOX for quite some time and as told above it charges really really slow.
You might say it is caused by the cable, makes sense, but the charger I use to connect the iBolt is the geniune HTC car charger, which does charge the phone pretty fast.
Also, I exit car mode when I don't need it and turn the screen off in order to charge more, but it randomly and frequently turns the phone on. Sometimes just the Android homescreen but sometimes it re-launches the car app too. I was planning to call iBolt for this but I do not have much hope for getting detailed information about the output (actually the USB pin design) since there is no information about this on the web sites.
Can anyone confirm that it supports fast (normal) charging? It becomes useless beacuse of this issue.
You can easily check for yourself. While the phone is docked in-car, do the following: Settings>Power>verify that phone reports "Charging, (AC). If phone does not say this then you are in-fact charging at 500mA. The i-dock/HTC Charger must be capable of providing enough current to charge at 1A and phone must state it's in AC charging. If this is not the case, your phone will discharge while being used in-car.
I had the same issue of non-charging when I first got my phone in December. My research led me to the solution I previously posted. I do not use car-mode since the only app I use while driving is Waze. I hope this helps.
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You can easily check for yourself. While the phone is docked in-car, do the following: Settings>Power>verify that phone reports "Charging, (AC). If phone does not say this then you are in-fact charging at 500mA. The i-dock/HTC Charger must be capable of providing enough current to charge at 1A and phone must state it's in AC charging. If this is not the case, your phone will discharge while being used in-car.
I had the same issue of non-charging when I first got my phone in December. My research led me to the solution I previously posted. I do not use car-mode since the only app I use while driving is Waze. I hope this helps.
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Late thanks =)
After writing that message it came to me too and checked it, though it was saying that it is AC charging but I can swear to anything, whether car mode or screen is on, or not, it is not charged in 1000mA mode.. When I directly charged it with the genuine charger, it was fine.
So bought a 2amp car charger, and used its cable, and it works fine now.
May be, the genuine HTC charger CABLE and the iBolt are not quite friendly with each other. I remember Nokia's not launching PC Suite when it was not a genuine Nokia cable, may be a trick like that. iBolt does not like genuine cables or genuine cable does not like oem "sockets"