Dear Community, Dear Experts, Dear Gurus ,
I am hoping for your help. Unfortuntately the Speaker in my HTC TyTn died
and I need to send back the TYTN to the service center in order to get most likely the speaker replaced ( dead ).
Here my isue:
I want to flash the original stock rom, which is:
RUU_Hermes_1.18.257.2_1.18.257.106_1.03.03.10_Qtek_GER_Ship.exe
I have running now and downgraded from WM6 to WM5:
HTC_BOOT HERM200 IPL-1.04 SPL-2.10.Olipro ->>> not OK :-(
ROM HTC German QTEK_102 1.18.257.2 05/30/06 ->>> OK
EXTROM 1.18.257.106 ->>> OK
RadioRom 1.41.00.10 ->>> not OK :-(
Protocol 32.34.7010.01H ->>> OK
OS Build 14955.2.3.0 ->>> OK
AKU 2.3 ->>> OK
The issue is now, how can I restore the original bootloader ? I can only
flash the rom with the RUUWrapper, the result of flashing the original stock
rom is then, that I am still stuck with the modified bootloader and a corrupted
radio rom. Radio Rom was "fixed" by me by flashing the latest version.
If I would try to use the original flasher I would always get an Update Error [260].
So what can I do to resotre the HTC TyTn to its original status, so that the warranty is not voided ... original stock bootloader, radio rom image and so on.
Thanks a lot and hoping for your support, since I am realy lost here.
Sbrani
grab sspl (soft spl) and use that to flash a stock bootloader only.
as far as i know you cannot downgrade the radio due to it being bootloader 0108 variant, but not having a hermes i might be wrong
You can restore the original SPL bootloader by using SSPL but you will not be able to downgrade the Radio as the original has HTC_BOOT 0106.
You have already checked these guys that they haven't released an update?
First of all, thanks a lot for replying, but still the question is, how I can get rid of the HERM200 IPL-1.04 SPL-2.10.Olipro Bootloader. I would need to downgrade once again to the original HTC bootlader 106. As long as I have the other one, I will always end up, with a non working radio rom, since this stone old radio rom is not compatible with the new "IPL-1.04 SPL-2.10" bootlader. Any further Ideas ? Anyway the sspl (soft spl) did the trick and was able to flash orignal rom, but unfortunately with the same result, still not the original bootloader and the radio rom is now again corrupted :-(.
The bootloader hindering you from downgrading to the original radio is not the IPL/SPL combo but instead the built-in bootloader of the radio itself. Read more in the Wiki.
To put back your original SPL loader, use NBHextract to extract the SPL image from the ROM update file you used to downgrade the other bits in your phone, then use NBHgen to create an update file containing only the SPL and then use SSPL for the update.
Hey great support here ! Finally I also managed to restore the original bootloader, which is HERM200 IPL-1.00 HERM200 SPL-1.04. Now I only have to get the original radio rom running. Thanks a lot, seems that I can think now of actually reaching the final goal. I learned a lot. Great community !!!
You're missing the point about the radio. Let me repeat:
You can't install the original radio ROM. You will brick the phone!
abubasim is right, you have htc_boot 0108, so you can only flash radios with htc_boot 0107 or 0108, but not 0106. Your original radio has 0106, so if you flash it you'll get a NoGSM error and a bricked phone.
about downgrading to WM5
pof said:
abubasim is right, you have htc_boot 0108, so you can only flash radios with htc_boot 0107 or 0108,
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Well Pof, abubasim, Couldn’t sbrani downgrade the radio with custom RUU to his own original Rom Radio first?? (almost the official known Radio is 1.38) then following your description. At that time he gone have WM5 Rom and same Radio as original, I just wondering if u can du like this
Don't worry guys I bricked several times now the radio rom . It's just that it is then extra work. I will keep you updated, as soon I have news, for now I can't see anymore those "upgrading" tools. I will try it again tomorrow.
you where able to unbrick because you had HardSPL, but now you have SPL-1.04 which will not allow you to flash unsigned code.
By the way, did anybody have experience with HTC or better to say HTC Serivce Providers. As far as I know I have to send it to Teleservice in Germany. Are they realy checking the installed rom ? Thanks for the info.
Ok, I made it finally, I will post exactly how I did it, maybe it helps someone who will be in the same situation.
Thanks once again, great SUPPORT !!
Sure you'd HELP me!
Hi there,
Hi Sbrani, I'm in the exactly same situation: HTC TYTN (Orange France) without speaker... and needing to go to french HTC support.
I upgraded both ROM and Radio to the latest versions following step by step the tutorial found here and on mr (???) on its website (very well done by the way).
Sbrani, Please could you help me to restore as you did, my factory defaults?
Regards
Fly
Can you give more facts ? Pls look into my first thread and put down the infos. Thx
Guideline: How to downgrade to an original rom
Ok here we go this is how I solved this issue.
First you need to understand the difference between a normal SPL
and the modified SPls, which you can get here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722
A standard SPL will not accept any unsigned code !
In case you bricked it already look here :
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Unbrick
1. you need to figure out, which radio rom matches your rom you want to flash, otherwise you end up with a bricked radio rom or even totally bricked,
if you have a standard SPL.
2.Please check it here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Upgrades
for the roms
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_ExtractedRadioRoms
for the radio roms
3.Looking at my ROM, which I needed I flashed 1.10 - Olipro SPL - based on 1.04,
I flashed it by using SSPL.
4.I flashed then the needed the radio rom
which was Radio upgrade only using CustomRUU 4.3 V 1.38.30.10
5.I used then Custom RUU Updater flashing the needed rom,
but without the included radio rom.
Costum RUU Updater you can find here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_CustomRUU
extracting and modifying is explained here:
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=22&Itemid=27
actually it is an how to downgrade from WM6 to WM6.
Please have a close look on how to extract the rom and how to create a
costum rom, which will fit your needs. The self made rom,
should then include the original IPL and SPL loader.
I finally used again SSPL to flash the self cooked rom.
Sorry if the guide is not very precise or not correct at all !!
Everybody is welcome to correct me and to finetune this guide.
LAST BUT NOT LEAST, please read the HERMES WIKI, it was a great help for me !!
Thank you!
You deserve a Very Very Warm thank you!
I'll try all you advised me this week-end.
Regards,
FlY
it's very good already. i think you should get it incorporated into MrVanx's guide as a downgrade for servicing section
Thanks for your guide sbrani, I have not had to downgrade yet, but it something that is in the back of my mind as I know it will be very difficult if I ever need to.
I would also second the comment that I would be very grateful to MrVanx if he wrote a general guide on how to return to factory condition , as it is much more involved than upgrading. It's one thing to flash a phone, a totally different thing to customise a ROM update in order to only flash a specified portion.
@sbrani:
What version is your radio ROM at now? 1.03.03.10 or 1.38.30.10?
Hi There
I'm now running the original but updatet T-Mobile version but i'd like to upgrade to WM6. unless it's her in german i'd like to have a possibility to downgrade again!
Can i just flash the old t-mobile files if i'm mad of rading english all day long??
Or will i need special rom to reflash WM5??
YOur's
Seppel
you can downgrade to whatever WM5 rom you like.
Cheers,
vlodeck.
Downgradeing problem
I'm now in TouchFlo 2.1 and i want back to wm 5.0 but i try the two uk rom,s and i get errors like ,you can't run this nbf ,try a newer one or update utility not for this device.What should i do???
cody28 said:
I'm now in TouchFlo 2.1 and i want back to wm 5.0 but i try the two uk rom,s and i get errors like ,you can't run this nbf ,try a newer one or update utility not for this device.What should i do???
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I used the german AKU3.3 ROM and it showed 'Upgrade from V4.0.0.0 to V3.3.0.0'.
Maybe you have used an old AKU2.x ROM to downgrade?
And... try downgrading in bootloader mode (hold tape button while soft-reset until colored bars are shown, but you need different active-sync drivers for bootloader mode)
downgade problem
I succed to downdrade to germab t-mobile rom but i need a wwe rom ,i'm not familiar with german language,and the uk roms just don,t work .update error.
Once you upgraded to AKU 3.3 you cant go back to AKU2. The only thing that could help is flashing the prophet rom but it can be dangerous. Search the prophet section if you want to do it.
Hi vlodeck
I upgraded already to aku3, but i would like to upgrade to wm6
do you know a good way to do so ?
downgrading to aku2 does not work - as you said!
regards
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hmm ... didn´t find a description what to do, but tried to downgrade back to orginal aku2 in bootloader mode:
ERROR [296] : UPGRADE ONLY
This NBF file cannot be used for your PDA Phone. Please get newer NBF file.
How to downgrade 38221_382116_026921_TMO_UK_WWE_Ship
(SPL 3.08.0001) back to orginal 1120223_11202110_11220_T-MobileUK_Ship ?
Hi! I read the guide, for the locking the SPL for the warranty, but they provide the 1.90 version of spl. But my original SPL version is 1.94. So, my questions are:
Using the 1.90 on the htc that was sold with 1.94, it can make any problems? (for the daily use)
Can I upgrade again at 1.94 for the warranty? If yes, where can I download 1.94 original?
I've read also other posts.... wich ask the same: "How can I backup my original SPL vendor?"
But they havn't any answers. So ok, I'm a noob, but I DON'T find a guide to this... so plz help me about it, link me a guide, 'cause maybe I've searched in a bad way... this is a big forum, and there's a person who know the answer XD
And did you try wiki?
TheXeno said:
Hi! I read the guide, for the locking the SPL for the warranty, but they provide the 1.90 version of spl. But my original SPL version is 1.94. So, my questions are:
Using the 1.90 on the htc that was sold with 1.94, it can make any problems? (for the daily use)
Can I upgrade again at 1.94 for the warranty? If yes, where can I download 1.94 original?
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Use the 1.90 spl in the guide, then flash your stock rom. stock roms include spl so the spl will automatically be updated to 1.94 or whatever version of spl your stock rom has. for example the latest official roms 5.XX have spl version 5.XX also.
Best regards,
Alc
@alternativ: sure, but I don't find what I really search.. or maybe I did an insufficient search
@alcadeias: really? thanks! There was a missing piece in the puzzle
alcadeias said:
Use the 1.90 spl in the guide, the flash your stock rom. stock roms include spl so the spl will automatically be updated to 1.94 or whatever version of spl your stock rom has. for example the latest official roms 5.XX have spl version 5.XX also.
Best regards,
Alc
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mhmmm thx a lot, but are you sure? If I don't installa an official SPL I can't install the rom, and if I put the original 1.90 the rom cannot recognize the spl, so, about your answer: re u sure?
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mhmmm thx a lot, but are you sure? If I don't installa an official SPL I can't install the rom, and if I put the original 1.90 the rom cannot recognize the spl, so, about your answer: re u sure?
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yes i am sure. i know you want to be extra careful, so if you need extra reassurance you can ask Da_G or hilaireg. i recommend sending a pm or searching for a thread managed by hilaireg. he is very nice and to me at least he always replied even when i had noob questions . also he is very very tech savvy.
later edit: older versions of spl recognize newer versions. how do u think stock rom users upgraded from 1.9x roms to 5.xx roms. so you should have no problem upgrading from the 1.9 spl in the recovery thread to any newer version of rom (spl).
regards,
alc
It's normal if I upgrade to official HTC ROM, when I recover my data with Sprite Backup, (only) the version of the rom became the old version? But radio and protocol still remaining at the new version... it's only a bad indication or the rom is "switched" on the old rom? (after restore I don't need an hard reset, the phone just have an automatic soft reset)
i have just updated to 3.14 wwe.so is it possible to downgrade to 1.67wwe?as my spl now show is 3.03 and i want to change that thing.
Go to HTC official support website,download your older ROM from there with your S/N and flash it,that way you will get your old SPL back so that you can install the HSPL on it.
if you couldnt find the older ROM there look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=623283
i have just updated to 3.14 wwe.so is it possible to downgrade to 1.67wwe?as my spl now show is 3.03 and i want to change that thing.
saurabh88 said:
i have just updated to 3.14 wwe.so is it possible to downgrade to 1.67wwe?as my spl now show is 3.03 and i want to change that thing.
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first is it TMOUS or EURO HD2
Just go to your HTC support website,download the old firmware with your S/N which is found on your phone,and flash it,that way you will get the old SPL and be able to install HSPL.
In case you couldnt find your original ROM here is the link for the shipped ROMs,jut download your version and flash.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=623283