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I have noticed on my device that when you run the wifi radio and turn on the blue tooth that the blue tooth will not operate or atleast not operate properly. However if you turn wifi off bluetooth works perfectly fine. Just appears to be a conflict when both operate together.
Also has anyone figured out the overheating issue with the radio during extensive use? The phone will stop charging when the radio heats up to much from steady use. IE tethering or sprint TV.
keep the phone cool...
lafester said:
keep the phone cool...
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I keep the phone rested on a bag of ice. But this is rediculas, there is no call for a user to need to keep there phone resting on a bag of ice to use it.
Umm, just an FYI but the PPC 6800 does the same thing when actively using wifi for a long period of time. It will overheat especially if the keyboard is NOT extended and as a precaution, it will stop charging the battery.
Adi
adisor19 said:
Umm, just an FYI but the PPC 6800 does the same thing when actively using wifi for a long period of time. It will overheat especially if the keyboard is NOT extended and as a precaution, it will stop charging the battery.
Adi
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It has been lightly said this is so, but in a yr of use and 6 ppc6800s I have been unable to replicate any of the symptoms.
the problem is this phone is on tiny and you have those radios and the processor running nonstop, things will get hot. i have not experienced those issues and i use wifi at the house due to me being on the fringe of cellular service. i also use BT at the same time... not always but i do use both, and the only thing i have noticed is the phone will still charging but that is exactly what the phone/battery is designed to do so thats not a bug and i dont think you are experiencing a bug..more likely just the results form the device getting hot...
not much you can do other than to keep the screen off when you can and try and keep the device cool...
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the problem is this phone is on tiny and you have those radios and the processor running nonstop, things will get hot. i have not experienced those issues and i use wifi at the house due to me being on the fringe of cellular service. i also use BT at the same time... not always but i do use both, and the only thing i have noticed is the phone will still charging but that is exactly what the phone/battery is designed to do so thats not a bug and i dont think you are experiencing a bug..more likely just the results form the device getting hot...
not much you can do other than to keep the screen off when you can and try and keep the device cool...
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I do understand that this is to be expected with that much going on. However, I'm on my 2nd touch pro because the first got so hot it wouldn't charge, not only with wifi use but also long telephone conversations. My current TP they sent me gets hot, but not THAT hot, and has never stopped charging. Some of the phones are simply better built than others at this point. The quality control over at HTC is really missing the mark.
There are a couple threads over at PPCGEEKS about this issue.
That being said, I love my TP and look forward to great use out of this baby.
i hear you but when Li-ION batteries get too hot they will stop charging. thats not a BUG but a SAFETY FEATURE. if your current device has not yet stopped charging then the battery has not gotten so hot as to make it unstable. i also agree some phones are built better than others--thats the cost of mass production.. cars (lemon law anyone?) and other items that arer mass produced folow the same suit....
marctronixx said:
i hear you but when Li-ION batteries get too hot they will stop charging. thats not a BUG but a SAFETY FEATURE. if your current device has not yet stopped charging then the battery has not gotten so hot as to make it unstable. i also agree some phones are built better than others--thats the cost of mass production.. cars (lemon law anyone?) and other items that arer mass produced folow the same suit....
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It's not the battery getting to hot, the battery stays cool. It is the actual physical device over heating from the radio in the top portion of the phone. The phone itself overheats not the battery and it stops charging as well starts flaking on its wifi and BT capability's.
the electronics in the phone and baattery have thermistors that register the temps. if the environment AROUND the battery is past a certain temp level, all charging stops. again this is a part of the setup of devices that use Li-ION. if the device continued to get hot and continued to charge/maintain the battery power level, that could cause sreious issues if nothing is done about it.
again, sir, that is NO bug. its a shame the phone is so tiny--this makes it difficult for the heat to go anywhere--but keeping the keyboard open could help somewhat..
not trying to bust ya bro.. just pointing out some information...
marctronixx said:
the electronics in the phone and baattery have thermistors that register the temps. if the environment AROUND the battery is past a certain temp level, all charging stops. again this is a part of the setup of devices that use Li-ION. if the device continued to get hot and continued to charge/maintain the battery power level, that could cause sreious issues if nothing is done about it.
again, sir, that is NO bug. its a shame the phone is so tiny--this makes it difficult for the heat to go anywhere--but keeping the keyboard open could help somewhat..
not trying to bust ya bro.. just pointing out some information...
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Yeah, the safety feature that kicks in with charging the battery isn't a bad thing at all. Annoying, yes.
For what its worth I have done a little reading and this isn't just a TP issue. I think any phone with that much under the hood and being that small is going to have this issue, for now anyway.
Check out what people are saying about the G1 being hot
http://forums.tmonews.com/index.php?topic=4109.0
cforster,
i have always said that--re: the phone is so tiny with all thats going on inside that the heat has no where to go.
i remember overclocking on a pentium 3 400mhz to about 700mhz, that thing took a HUGE heatsink, so then i think my phone has a 528mhz cpu in it, and it probably doesnt use a heatsink at all, probably just a single layer of aluminum to spread the heat so i can't complain...my phone gets hot when wifi and gps run while im driving, i wish it wouldnt stop charging but it does, i just have to hold it in front of my a/c vents for a while and the charging re-starts where it left off
Guys, i've seen this happening even with my iPhone. When i put it in the car stand and the charger is plugged it will stop charging after a while because i have hot air from the vent blowing on it.
Any phone with a Li-ion battery in it will have such a fail safe mechanism cause you REALLY don't want that bat the catch on fire.. The industry as a whole has already had plenty of problems with Li-Ion batteries..
Adi
Shame to.. because I would use the wifi all day at work if I could keep it cool.. best thing I have come up with is a small ziplock and putting ice in it and setting the phone on top of it.. leaving the keyboard out doesnt help..
Hello,
I know, I know... old problem, yet there is still no definite answer to the question of continous random freezes. My HD2 is also experiencing them (worked fine for about 3 months, during which it never fell down whatsoever)
but!!!
I knew from a few days before the first freeze that something was wrong. The bottom of the phone was getting incredibly warm while heavily using the hardware (watching HD vids, browsing web etc.) Me being stupid did not think of it till today. So once again, knowing that my HD2 would freeze, I plugged it in to recharge the battery. This time - enlightened by the thought of old overheating problem - I put it right next to the opened window - it was -1 *C outside. Results? No freeze! Battery fully charged for the first time without a random reset! In my case this is definitely temperature-related problem, it could possibly not be just mine.
The question is: How to lower the temperature? I don't feel like using my phone in a fridge or moving to subpolar areas.
EDIT @28.02
So far my theory is correct. Once I kept the screen on for 10 minutes and was far enough away from the window, the phone restarted itself (and I was not abusing the hardware; I was, in fact, just writing a text message.) Normally it would shut down right after the attempt to load and stabilize the main screen, but since I put it right next to the window at the PIN window, it cooled down and now works fine again.
muodypl said:
Hello,
I know, I know... old problem, yet there is still no definite answer to the question of continous random freezes. My HD2 is also experiencing them (worked fine for about 3 months, during which it never fell down whatsoever)
but!!!
I knew from a few days before the first freeze that something was wrong. The bottom of the phone was getting incredibly warm while heavily using the hardware (watching HD vids, browsing web etc.) Me being stupid did not think of it till today. So once again, knowing that my HD2 would freeze, I plugged it in to recharge the battery. This time - enlightened by the thought of old overheating problem - I put it right next to the opened window - it was -1 *C outside. Results? No freeze! Battery fully charged for the first time without a random reset! In my case this is definitely temperature-related problem, it could possibly not be just mine.
The question is: How to lower the temperature? I don't feel like using my phone in a fridge or moving to subpolar areas.
EDIT @28.02
So far my theory is correct. Once I kept the screen on for 10 minutes and was far enough away from the window, the phone restarted itself (and I was not abusing the hardware; I was, in fact, just writing a text message.) Normally it would shut down right after the attempt to load and stabilize the main screen, but since I put it right next to the window at the PIN window, it cooled down and now works fine again.
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Maybe it is the battery, you could try an inexpensive replacement one from ebay.
Well, ebay is off the limits for me, but I will surely try some cheaper counterpart. It's been over a week and thus far my theory is proving to be correct - low temperature = no freezes.
The heat might also be caused by lots of stuff running in the background - have you checked this out as well?
Of course I did - Task Manager is one of the 3 apps on the main screen. I always make sure nothing is running, be it an app, or an unnecessary process.
But yes, some of the applications do increase the temperature, however I find that normal... well, as long as the heat does not make my HD2 shut down!
EDIT @ 09.03:
Waiting for a new batt to arrive. I just hope this is just some minor energy output problem and that's why my hd2 is overheating, leading to shutting down.
Got my new battery from a pretty decent company. Normally after turning off the phone and even reattaching the battery I'd have problems turning it on again (would have took me several attempts); however this time it went very smooth.
Any update on use with the new battery? I have the same overheating/screen lock problem with my HD2. Mine has done so after taking a call and having the phone up to my ear for several minutes.
Unfortunately it wasn't the battery. The most common circumstances in which my HD2 freezes is trying to use the internet, followed by playing music from the Sense player. The only thing left to do is to return it.
I declare HTC HD2 and the HTC tech support piece of junk.
Final edit:
Sold my HD2 and bought Desire HD. <3 Android!
I got my 920 today and I'm quite happy with it. However I'm facing a weird issue. My screen is noticeably flickering. At first I tried to restart the phone a few times, and at last with a soft reset I got rid of it in some areas (eg the unlock screen) but in some others (typing an address in the browser, typing into Bing search) it's still there, even tho it's not very noticeable anymore. However I'm quite picky so it annoys me a bit, also I don't think it's fair that I have to use a phone behaving this way. Anybody else having this? Workarounds of any sort? Otherwise I guess this guy is going back to the store...
Edit: I found out that this issue pretty much comes and goes randomly, I happen to have it for a few hours then it goes away, so on so forth. I really don't know if I'll ever be able to get the phone replaced if the issue is so hard to be reproduced.
Same intermittent problem
vnvman said:
I got my 920 today and I'm quite happy with it. However I'm facing a weird issue. My screen is noticeably flickering. At first I tried to restart the phone a few times, and at last with a soft reset I got rid of it in some areas (eg the unlock screen) but in some others (typing an address in the browser, typing into Bing search) it's still there, even tho it's not very noticeable anymore. However I'm quite picky so it annoys me a bit, also I don't think it's fair that I have to use a phone behaving this way. Anybody else having this? Workarounds of any sort? Otherwise I guess this guy is going back to the store...
Edit: I found out that this issue pretty much comes and goes randomly, I happen to have it for a few hours then it goes away, so on so forth. I really don't know if I'll ever be able to get the phone replaced if the issue is so hard to be reproduced.
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You're not going crazy as I have the same issue with my 920. It is VERY intermittent and probably happens about once every 3 weeks I guess.
I'll wake the phone to check it and it seems that the display is not working fully and looks interlaced and flickering. No loss of functionality and when I put it to sleep and wake it up a few times it's fine and back to normal. Appears to be an intermittent issue with either the display or drivers but no way to reproduce unless you separately take a video/photo of the screen when it is in this state when you are returning it to the store for an exchange. For me it doesn't happen enough to really worry me although it is slightly annoying...
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You're not going crazy as I have the same issue with my 920. It is VERY intermittent and probably happens about once every 3 weeks I guess.
I'll wake the phone to check it and it seems that the display is not working fully and looks interlaced and flickering. No loss of functionality and when I put it to sleep and wake it up a few times it's fine and back to normal. Appears to be an intermittent issue with either the display or drivers but no way to reproduce unless you separately take a video/photo of the screen when it is in this state when you are returning it to the store for an exchange. For me it doesn't happen enough to really worry me although it is slightly annoying...
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Man, this is driving me nuts. I noticed it does it every time the phone reaches a somewhat hotter temperature (like body temperature, a couple minutes of usage normally) or when it's plugged. When the battery is 100% loaded it usually stops, but then after a few minutes it comes back, very annoying. Since it does it like 90% of the time I guess the guys at the shop will notice it, when I'm at max brightness it's like a freaking strobe, I can't take this any longer, makes my head ache. One thing I also noticed is the fact that the lowest light setting available is still way brighter than when on auto in a dark room: low looks more like medium, so to speak. Is this ok?
Today I'm bringing it back to the shop anyway, I'll keep you posted.
Update: I got my phone replaced. We had to open 3 boxes before finding a non flickering one, insane. For the last try I decided to open a white one and it was flawless, weird...
Are you guys in cold areas or keep your phones in cold areas? By cold I mean under 65 F. I have noticed in certain types of LCD's that if they are cold they seem to slow in refresh rate. Try warming your phone up and see if it gets better.
R: Screen flickering madness
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Are you guys in cold areas or keep your phones in cold areas? By cold I mean under 65 F. I have noticed in certain types of LCD's that if they are cold they seem to slow in refresh rate. Try warming your phone up and see if it gets better.
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Not really my case I guess, actually the phone kept acting up even after an hour usage, so it was plenty hot. No problems with new one so far, fingers crossed...
Hi all.
So as the title suggests after playing Reckless Racing 3 for about 15 minutes the battery temp goes to around 40 degrees Celsius and after exiting the game the tablet every single time reboots.
Anybody else has the same experience?
Do you think it's a hardware fault and i should have the tablet returned?
Thanks in advance for any input on this.
Swiftkeyed from my Renovated HTC One M8
Mine overheated and shut down from downloading apps for 15 minutes. Well I assume it shut down die to hear. Got very hot turned off. ::/
40 degrees isnt hot
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Not Rebooting, just freezin
I'm having something similar to what you decribe happening. After some sort of graphically intense use, my N9 feels warm to the touch and eventually freezes and produces a garbled image on the screen. Forcing a reboot is the only way out. Has anybody has an experience close to this?
Nick
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I'm having something similar to what you decribe happening. After some sort of graphically intense use, my N9 feels warm to the touch and eventually freezes and produces a garbled image on the screen. Forcing a reboot is the only way out. Has anybody has an experience close to this?
Nick
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Bit of a revival on this thread but I've got this problem (overheating, scrambled image and then reboot). What did you do to solve it (if at all) in the end? seen others say that HTC have a 2 year warranty (which mine would be just in) but then also need a proof of purchase apparently, which I dont have.
I have bought a galaxy alpha four days ago. The device was working very well the first days with no problems. Excellent phone. It was getting warm, but I know this is normal for phones.
However the warm became worse, at the point the display was heating so much to risk to burn my finger. The display is now constantly getting warm even when doing simple tasks (whatsapp, browsing internet) and it is uncomfortable to use.
If I try to do a intensive task (like playing a game), even only for a few minutes, then it becomes hot and it makes the display almost untouchable. The top part of the display is especially affected by the problem. The back cover in plastic is also warm, but nothing that prevents me from safely holding the device in my hand
I have tried to turn off the phone and let it to cool down. However, after turning on the device again, the phone gets warm like before.
Is all of this normal? I'm aware that every phone becomes hot with use, but I believe my alpha is exxaggerated. I think it's a problem of faulty device, but I'd like to know your opinions first before to go back to the shop.
Thank you for answering
do you uodate to android 5?alpha get hot if your screen brith 100%.....or use a case or cover........or using 3g 4g wifi all time.....its a cool dvice but like all phone can get hot
ZSniton said:
I have bought a galaxy alpha four days ago. The device was working very well the first days with no problems. Excellent phone. It was getting warm, but I know this is normal for phones.
However the warm became worse, at the point the display was heating so much to risk to burn my finger. The display is now constantly getting warm even when doing simple tasks (whatsapp, browsing internet) and it is uncomfortable to use.
If I try to do a intensive task (like playing a game), even only for a few minutes, then it becomes hot and it makes the display almost untouchable. The top part of the display is especially affected by the problem. The back cover in plastic is also warm, but nothing that prevents me from safely holding the device in my hand
I have tried to turn off the phone and let it to cool down. However, after turning on the device again, the phone gets warm like before.
Is all of this normal? I'm aware that every phone becomes hot with use, but I believe my alpha is exxaggerated. I think it's a problem of faulty device, but I'd like to know your opinions first before to go back to the shop.
Thank you for answering
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I say return it and get a replacement. Yes, the phone does heat up from both Kitkat and Lollipop builds but not to the point where it "burns" fingers.
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My phone stay cool. I am on KK 4.4.4.
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ZSniton said:
I have bought a galaxy alpha four days ago. The device was working very well the first days with no problems. Excellent phone. It was getting warm, but I know this is normal for phones.
However the warm became worse, at the point the display was heating so much to risk to burn my finger. The display is now constantly getting warm even when doing simple tasks (whatsapp, browsing internet) and it is uncomfortable to use.
If I try to do a intensive task (like playing a game), even only for a few minutes, then it becomes hot and it makes the display almost untouchable. The top part of the display is especially affected by the problem. The back cover in plastic is also warm, but nothing that prevents me from safely holding the device in my hand
I have tried to turn off the phone and let it to cool down. However, after turning on the device again, the phone gets warm like before.
Is all of this normal? I'm aware that every phone becomes hot with use, but I believe my alpha is exxaggerated. I think it's a problem of faulty device, but I'd like to know your opinions first before to go back to the shop.
Thank you for answering
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hi had a similar problem like this with my alpha phone as well not to the degree where it felt like the screen was burning my finger just that it was unusually warm what i did to solve this was to disable every and anything that's unnecessary that's running in the background that came on my phone, disable all gesture feature as well as set the screen brightness to auto, change launchers, make sure WIFI NFC and bluetooth are disabled when not in use and if you do not use LTE on your phone disable it as well doing all of this should help to speed up ,increase battery life and hopefully make your phone cooler
I would suggest a factory reset and a day of testing after. If its still the same go for service.
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Update: I have followed your suggestions and The alpha looks to be fine now. I'll bring It back to the shop if the heat happens again.
Thank you for your attention.
I already make a 6-8 time root my Alpha 850F
a test same builds from eudemony 502,with problem google.play services..google.music...google.play.store stoped working in mean time was lose root & TWRPrecovery than again flash stock 502 throuth odin,& again ...
when Oscan rom appair I flashed this Aroma rom & have no problem at all with google app & rom boot exellent
but in this rom & Oscan SGS6 rom I have very little antutu score 34000 ,i know that is with samo old scripts on my Alpha.
I make again flash via Odin stock XEF Firmware ,than root & after that TWRP
now SGS6 rom work perfect,I get 53000 antutu ,phone is cold etc 3-4 SOT
I`m very satisfied
If your phone was to hot,let him finish the update ,sync,apk play store update
dont turn off wifi or data after update phone will be cool down