Anyone who knows car audio or home audio knows what clipping/distortion is...
Some argue the fact that clipping doesn't kill a sub woofer, over powering does...
Well its proven even with proper voltage and rated RMS with a clipped signal can damage your speakers/woofers
I have found both in car audio and home audio "bass boost" does nothing but harm... And with most of the roms running software never intended for our phone (Beats) it CAN do more harm than good...
I have had a minor mishap with using beats enabled on my 3d and my prized car audio
I am not blaming any of the developers for this as its my own fault, but I am warning the general public that dont use a Oscope or any proper tuning method to test gains and home receivers/amps to avoid beats audio at all cost...
This isn't just about the volume that I listen to music, its the quality and for beats audio there is none..
(this isn't for the people with headphones rated at 8ohms +)
This is for people who value there investments weather it be home audio/car audio... The software (beats audio) creates distortion and clipping even at low volumes...
Let this thread die or debate... I can easily get proof when I get over to my friends house with his Oscope
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nate420 said:
Anyone who knows car audio or home audio knows what a clipping/distortion is...
Some argue the fact that clipping doesn't kill a sub woofer, over powering does...
Well its proven even with proper voltage and rated RMS with a clipped signal can damage your speakers/woofers
I have found both in car audio and home audio "bass boost" does nothing but harm... And with most if the roms running software never intended for our phone (Beats) it CAN do more harm than good...
I have had a minor mishap with using beats enabled on my 3d and my prized car audio
I am not blaming any of the developers for this as its my own fault, but I am warning the general public that dont use a Oscope or any proper tuning method to test gains and home receivers/amps to avoid beats audio at all cost...
This isn't just about the volume that I listen to music, its the quality and for beats audio there is none..
(this isn't for the people with headphones rated at 8ohms +)
This is for people who value there investments weather it be home audio/car audio... The software (beats audio) creates distortion and clipping even at low volumes...
Let this thread die or debate... I can easily get proof when I get over to my friends house with his Oscope
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Hey Nate,
Oh man, that sucks. In the end, people will want their beats, lol. My condolences for your car audio system. :-(
Nothing major happened as I properly tune my system with a $2000 oscope but a second longer and all 4 of my Fi audio 15" BL's would have been toast
This isn't to scare (normal?) people who use it for headphones or audio applications that don't require extensive tuning/massive power and money
Just a warning to those who spent a few grand on there audio and can't afford to get it tuned properly....
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Nothing major happened as I properly tune my system with a $2000 oscope but a second longer and all 4 of my Fi audio 15" BL's would have been toast
This isn't to scare (normal?) people who use it for headphones or audio applications that don't require extensive tuning/massive power and money
Just a warning to those who spent a few grand on there audio and can't afford to get it tuned properly....
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Oh, I thought for the worse.
It's much appreciated that you would let the community know, then rather "let people learn their lesson".
That's awesome you have a friend with an Oscope by the way.
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Oh, I thought for the worse.
It's much appreciated that you would let the community know, then rather "let people learn their lesson".
That's awesome you have a friend with an Oscope by the way.
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I freaking hate beats...
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I thought beats was awesome at first. Think it was placebo affect. Then when i switched back to normal it sounded so much better. **** beats
Hate to be rude, but why did you run beats through your expensive system that already was loud af, beats is like turning the bass all the way up on ur eq... Of course it was gonna f 4 15" woofers up....
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I'm not totally sure why people want it.
Beats headphones are, by audiophiles, rated terribly. They do not sound good because they're engineered (poorly) for HipHop.
Naturally, audio tweaks designed for bad headphones will produce bad results.
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Hate to be rude, but why did you run beats through your expensive system that already was loud af, beats is like turning the bass all the way up on ur eq... Of course it was gonna f 4 15" woofers up....
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To test it... And it didn't **** anything up... Wanted to test quality of it... And it clips @ low volumes..
Obviously I'm not gonna just plug and play with a system like mine... This is food for the people that use there phone to play music off of that have loud ass systems and don't have all the knowledge of what there dealing with...
I've blown enough subs and threw money down the toilet enough to not wanna see people coming in blaming developers because they don't understand what a little distortion/clipping is and how bad it is.. and yeah beats is about the worst thing as it only increases low frequency spectrums on the phones internal eq which intern increases the frequencies that the receiver/radio send to the amp...
Like I said even at LOW volumes (25% of max) it sends a long flat signal... NO GOOD!
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i use a little Dot mkIII tube amp to power my v-moda crossfade lp and beats makes my podcasts and music sound ****ty, even through my Vsonic gr07's beats sounds crap. i intentionally find roms that do not use beats
I use PowerAmp and have set the EQ correctly and it sounds better. though i dont often listen through my Evo 3d but i do for podcasts. my Cowon J3 is better for music
My right speaker sounds like sh!t now.
Via My HTC Evo 3D On The Now Network From Sprint.
Nate speaks the truth
I have loved car audio for years. I have been more of a SQ than SPL person. But, now that I have a family my car audio purchases have really dialed back.
But, in my modest system "Beats" did nothing but add distortion and sound like a$$. It might be good for cheap non powered headphones. But the EQ curve it puts is not natural and really just screws up the sounds. It also causes a lot of distortion.
You might not instantly blow speakers but they will die a premature death. If you want more bass and clearer tweets just buck up. There is no worder app to make you Super Blues sound like JL Audios or your phillips earbuds sound like sienhauser headphones.
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To test it... And it didn't **** anything up... Wanted to test quality of it... And it clips @ low volumes..
Obviously I'm not gonna just plug and play with a system like mine... This is food for the people that use there phone to play music off of that have loud ass systems and don't have all the knowledge of what there dealing with...
I've blown enough subs and threw money down the toilet enough to not wanna see people coming in blaming developers because they don't understand what a little distortion/clipping is and how bad it is.. and yeah beats is about the worst thing as it only increases low frequency spectrums on the phones internal eq which intern increases the frequencies that the receiver/radio send to the amp...
Like I said even at LOW volumes (25% of max) it sends a long flat signal... NO GOOD!
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K gotcha
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Audio lovers shouldn't be using their phones as a playback device anyway, especially not connected to a car stereo. If you're broke, I understand, but if you have any sort of a system, and didn't use any of that money on a good playback device, for shame...
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Audio lovers shouldn't be using their phones as a playback device anyway, especially not connected to a car stereo. If you're broke, I understand, but if you have any sort of a system, and didn't use any of that money on a good playback device, for shame...
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Why?
I have a cheap HP touchpad I use for most music playback.... But there are days that I forget it... Or it dies...
I can't play cds because they skip... And I refuse to buy a ipod... So my phone/tablet it is......
Why put a 3.5mm jack in it If I can't use it?
I need you to delve a little deeper on your logic
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It works best with beats headphones. Otherwise its useless.
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Why put a 3.5mm jack in it If I can't use it?
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Nothing wrong with a 3.5mm jack, it's what you're using to push the audio. Generally phones and tablets don't have the greatest DACs, and I don't think any Android device allows you to send the audio the audio as a line-out/unamplified signal
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It works best with beats headphones. Otherwise its useless.
Temari x Shikamaru
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Sound clips with beats enabled and beats studio headphones.
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Nothing wrong with a 3.5mm jack, it's what you're using to push the audio. Generally phones and tablets don't have the greatest DACs, and I don't think any Android device allows you to send the audio the audio as a line-out/unamplified signal
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The amplified signal isn't the problem... Hence why you tune with a Oscope or some other distortion director..
Obviously any audio outup(mp3 player,phones,tablets) is gonna have a amplified signal even if its flat...
It's the fact that even with my 1200 dollar alpine double din adjusting for the major spike in the low frequencies from the "beats" does nothing as it still sends a clipped signal...
(resolution don't use beats)
I'm just warning people in a much smaller spectrum than you think, that uses it to push audio to expensive equipment they don't wanna buy in 2 months after the coils melt... I have to recone my subs once a year to get the scores I want on a termlab... And tune and test and build every year...
Id hate to see people who listen to systems daily make a mistake because they think beats audio enabled will make it that much louder
Funny how every phone I used or eq I used with the phone i could ALL WAYS find a median where there is no clipping signal from the phone,to the deck, to the amp,then to the woofers...
My main argument is beats enabled sends clipping even with proper tuning...
I know some equalizers have a "clipping/no clipping" setting I'm just wondering if the sofware its self is set to distort... Again most people don't care because they use it for headphones...
I mean no offence to anyone... Just figured is throw my findings out there!
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nate420 said:
Anyone who knows car audio or home audio knows what clipping/distortion is...
Some argue the fact that clipping doesn't kill a sub woofer, over powering does...
Well its proven even with proper voltage and rated RMS with a clipped signal can damage your speakers/woofers
I have found both in car audio and home audio "bass boost" does nothing but harm... And with most of the roms running software never intended for our phone (Beats) it CAN do more harm than good...
I have had a minor mishap with using beats enabled on my 3d and my prized car audio
I am not blaming any of the developers for this as its my own fault, but I am warning the general public that dont use a Oscope or any proper tuning method to test gains and home receivers/amps to avoid beats audio at all cost...
This isn't just about the volume that I listen to music, its the quality and for beats audio there is none..
(this isn't for the people with headphones rated at 8ohms +)
This is for people who value there investments weather it be home audio/car audio... The software (beats audio) creates distortion and clipping even at low volumes...
Let this thread die or debate... I can easily get proof when I get over to my friends house with his Oscope
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I wouldn't say beats was never intended for our phone. Were the same as the sensation spec wise and its over there.
While I don't argue with your other points, but the one I question is not valid really.
Other than that decent post here!
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So I have been looking through the forums and havent been able to find anything on this issue yet. the speaker is really loud on this phone and I like that ans sounds great when playing pandora and stuff but on games and some other programs there is extreme static, you cant hear it all that much when you have the volume up and the phone far away from your ears, but if you put the phone closer you will hear a lot of feedback it sounds like and tons of static I was just wondering if this was normal and other people were having this issue as well or if it was just me. Also if there is a way to fix this and someone knows and help would be appreciated.
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Its a better speaker than the EVO
Louder and deff crisper sounding
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Mine has no such static.
MoPho speaker is far better than the Evo 3d, Evo 4g, and Nexus 4g speakers.
It's the best I have had on any cell phone. Loud and clear, and the speaker phone works well too.
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Mine has no such static.
MoPho speaker is far better than the Evo 3d, Evo 4g, and Nexus 4g speakers.
It's the best I have had on any cell phone. Loud and clear, and the speaker phone works well too.
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+1 to this. Hands down the best I've seen or owned!
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Agreed
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Best internal and external speaker i've ever had on a cell phone, aside from MAYBE the nextels (also Motorola) back in the day - those nextels were crazy loud and clear lol
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Best internal and external speaker i've ever had on a cell phone, aside from MAYBE the nextels (also Motorola) back in the day - those nextels were crazy loud and clear lol
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I approve
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play a notification tone. Its sounds like older stereos when you would turn it real high and get that white noise....happens before and after the tone. Notice it more in headphones but not while I am listening to something.
My theory is has his does not incorporate 0 bit muting.
I am rooted do you know of a program that supports the stock photon Kernal, that we could change the audio properties like the voodoo ones for the nexus
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Having been around Motorola for 15 years now, they've always had some of the best speakers and earpieces in their phones. I'm not personally saying other models are bad or anything of the sort, but when I open up a Moto phone, and see those HUGE round familiar speakers, I just know Moto took the time to put some awesome hardware in here.
You've got to remember, Motorola was (and still is) a company that produced and manufactured walkie talkie's from long ago, the audio needed to be heard and that still stands up today. I expected nothing less.
And not only that but the drivers on the circuit board that run that audio are amazing. Case in point, I personally have a headphone amplifier hooked up to my Photon, and it drives and feeds that audio into that amp very well, and sounds crisp, clear, and amazing through it and a $200 pair of headphones I got on sale. Even w/o the amp, listening to podcasts sounds very clear compared to other phone models I've done this with.
If any phone could ever replace a stand alone mp3 player, it would be a Motorola. I'd say it's closer to Cowon quality audio, and anyone who's an audiophile knows Cowon is a top dog in that industry for best sounding audio.
I agree on music and things the audio is great but like CNET TV app you tube and some others I hear the hiss maybe it is just poor audio from the apps them selves oh well not that big a deal just seeing if anybody else was noticing it.
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Mine sounds really pretty good, but I have to have it halfway before I really hear anything. At full it is OK, but I think it should be louder. Is there a setting somewhere? Does anyone else think it could be louder still?
So I finally found the answer to my problem it was the audio effects that are under the sound menu that was causing the static it was being over amplified, turning it of made it quieter but still sounded great with no static.
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static
I found enabling HAC (hearing aid compatibility) in call settings caused static when I went to speaker and would not go away until I ended the call.
It was bad as I like speaker phone.
Disabling HAC solved the problem.
Hi all,
Do you notice a slight hissing when you use headphones? I notice it if I'm playing soft music (like classical stuff)...when the music player first starts playing, it "powers up" the audio chip and I hear the hissing. Theres actually a slight high pitch sound to the hissing. If I pause it, the hissing sound stays on for a few seconds before the OS powers down the audio chip, then it goes silent.
Unpausing causes the hissing/highpitch to come back.
Do I have a crappy unit or are they all like this?
I noticed the same thing on my evo3d as well as the photon.
I just tried using a microphone/headphone, and I get the same hissing when the audio chip is used. The headphones are pretty good quality. I don't get this hiss from my mp3 players.
Anyone else?
I noticed it using pandora. Between songs there was static. It seemed to stop during playback.
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You need to go to sounds in the menu and turn off the noise enhancements that will eliminate the static I had the same problem
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abrcrmdl23 said:
You need to go to sounds in the menu and turn off the noise enhancements that will eliminate the static I had the same problem
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sound settings / media audio effects / wired stereo devices
The setting was already disabled. So I don't think that's it.
music hiss with headphones
Anyone ever find a Photon 4g solution? I'm guessing it's just what you get from the current smartphone's DAC chip. I only really notice it on quiet music for the most part anyway. More annoying are the notification sound or pauses while playing music despite sound settings being adjusted right.. I think anyway.
I notice too but also when you plug it to power source it becomes louder.
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abrcrmdl23 said:
You need to go to sounds in the menu and turn off the noise enhancements that will eliminate the static I had the same problem
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It seems like the worst culprit in the noise enhancements is the surround function...when I turned just that off there was a big reduction in the hiss.
I got mine phone the week after thanksgiving and have heard that nearly nonstop... while driving I often have headphones from my old palm pre on and the high pitch sound is not unlike that which you hear when using headphones on a commercial airliner's 3.5mm seat headphone jack.
after extended periods it's very annoying and actually causes me to tense my shoulders and get a headache.
my enhancements are also off, it's just there, it's more prevalent when charging.
I hear it too thankfully its not too loud so although it's annoying. To the guy above me be careful driving with headphones in as it's illegal in most states to do so as it makes it harder to hear emergency vehicles.
Anyone try using winamp or another player to see if the hissing is happening with other players?
ricmomann said:
I got mine phone the week after thanksgiving and have heard that nearly nonstop... while driving I often have headphones from my old palm pre on and the high pitch sound is not unlike that which you hear when using headphones on a commercial airliner's 3.5mm seat headphone jack.
after extended periods it's very annoying and actually causes me to tense my shoulders and get a headache.
my enhancements are also off, it's just there, it's more prevalent when charging.
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That high pitched whine you heard on the airline's headphone jack is the result of 400Hz AC power that all airplanes use.
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Anyone try using winamp or another player to see if the hissing is happening with other players?
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Yes they all got it. Connecting to AC charger/power line will keep the noise being heard from headphone, as if the audio pipeline was activated in playing music, but USB connection doesn't trigger that. The hissing pitch is a flag but the noise level sounds within a common range - better turn off audio effects (bass enhancement was a good one and could be an exception). Positive thinking, since they said headphones are not good for long-time music listening, the audio chip is gonna enforce that.
I still like Moto Photon over other sprint android phones:
1. World phone with both CDMA and GSM. (was considering Samsung Galaxy Epic 4G but it has no GSM/SIM switch.)
2. 4G and powerful dual-core system (1 & 2 already exclude the rest options).
And 3. the most unique design of it:
"The Photon 4G's cut-off corners give the phone a decidedly more masculine look, as do the gunmetal gray border" - cnet.
"lots of tasteful details..." - engadget.com.
so does anyone know what the DAC in the photon actually is? i only ask because after 20 minutes or so with no luck with google and my query for dac in the mopho forums resulted with this thread.
Thanks to dsp manager, I up the the bass real high when headsets are plugged in and thanks to the ibeats being able to produce high amounts of bass, my music on the phone sounds amazing!
I was wondering if anyone's ibeats have blown out because the bass was set too high? If not, I may be the first to report this in the future lol, hope not.
I have heard them pop with some frequencies when the bass was up, but I have maxed them out and I don't think they will blow. Hey since the headphones came with the phone are they covered under the year warranty? Or do they have one from monster?
I have to make this quick. If you want more info send me a message.
The only thing that will blow any speaker is distortion which you will hear.
Never turn the volume up all the way. At this setting the sound will likely not be clean and clear but it has nothing to do with volume. Most audio sources will distort at full volume. If you want it louder use an app like PowerAmp and increase the preamp output instead.
If its still not loud enough get a headphone amp! I have one and the iBeats will go so loud it actually hurts my ears after a few minutes.
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I have heard them pop with some frequencies when the bass was up, but I have maxed them out and I don't think they will blow. Hey since the headphones came with the phone are they covered under the year warranty? Or do they have one from monster?
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Don't quote me on this but I remember reading that they are covered.
Yes, they are covered. I was having problems with the control module on the headphones - the play'pause/talk button, specifically. I called Verizon and they told me I could take them to any official Verizon store - not the "authorized dealers, but an actual VZW location - and get them replaced.
The second pair works beautifully but I'm planning on selling them. I'm going to pick up a pair of the Beats Tour earbuds, which will also work with the phone.
And one last item of curiosity - I plugged in my Shure se110 headphones to my Rezound last week and, to my surprise, Beats Audio fired up. Pretty cool.
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Yes, they are covered. I was having problems with the control module on the headphones - the play'pause/talk button, specifically. I called Verizon and they told me I could take them to any official Verizon store - not the "authorized dealers, but an actual VZW location - and get them replaced.
The second pair works beautifully but I'm planning on selling them. I'm going to pick up a pair of the Beats Tour earbuds, which will also work with the phone.
And one last item of curiosity - I plugged in my Shure se110 headphones to my Rezound last week and, to my surprise, Beats Audio fired up. Pretty cool.
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If you use the music player with any pair of headphones, the beats equalizer can/will be enabled on the phone
I have a Sony A2DP head in my truck... 300 watt amp, 12" sub, yada yada. Beats Audio DSP bumps, earbuds or no earbuds. And Pandora is thumping too.
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Btw, I have the volume cranked to max on my Rezound and only control volume from my Sony head. ROCKS!
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If you use the music player with any pair of headphones, the beats equalizer can/will be enabled on the phone
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It doesn't even have to be headphones, I plug mine into iPod speakers, studio monitors.. as long as there's something in the headphone Jack.
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It doesn't even have to be headphones, I plug mine into iPod speakers, studio monitors.. as long as there's something in the headphone Jack.
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Yupp exactly. I plug my car audio into the phone all the time and beats audio gets enabled when ever I use the stock music player
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Yupp exactly. I plug my car audio into the phone all the time and beats audio gets enabled when ever I use the stock music player
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Lol I almost destroyed my cousins car today. Little too much bass
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I've been considering for a while to buy a good headphones and I've decided to buy an audio technica ath-m50. The only thing that is bothering me is the yamaha audio chip. If I buy those headphones, I'll be using them most of the time on my sgs2.
Will the yamaha chip make the ath-m50 sound like a cheap low-end headphone?
If you happen to own an ath-m50 I wold really appreciate it if you could measure the hollow of the earth cups, diagonally and horizontally maybe. I've read that people with large ears may find them uncomfortable. The length of my ears are just below 7cm(I don't care, they are small, my mum told me that)
I've read supercurio's analysis of the audio chip but my question still remains.
Waiting eagerly for any response.
Get an iPod nano- excellent sound quality and a great price. I hate using my GSII for music though Poweramp is a great app
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I've been considering for a while to buy a good headphones and I've decided to buy an audio technica ath-m50. The only thing that is bothering me is the yamaha audio chip. If I buy those headphones, I'll be using them most of the time on my sgs2.
Will the yamaha chip make the ath-m50 sound like a cheap low-end headphone?
If you happen to own an ath-m50 I wold really appreciate it if you could measure the hollow of the earth cups, diagonally and horizontally maybe. I've read that people with large ears may find them uncomfortable. The length of my ears are just below 7cm(I don't care, they are small, my mum told me that)
I've read supercurio's analysis of the audio chip but my question still remains.
Waiting eagerly for any response.
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Well, if you really want to use a pair of high end headphones with the galaxy sII, get a portable amp like i did. I got a fiio e7, and it powers the ath-m50just fine. Listening to them straight out of the GSII audio jack wont let them utilise their full power. And dont get an iPod if you want really high quality audio. :-/ (Just a suggestion )
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@OP go head and also look at this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1405840
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@OP go head and also look at this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1405840
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I have bought that app even though I rarely use it because for me the s2 is loud enough. I'm more worried about the quality of the sound.
WagTwo said:
I have bought that app even though I rarely use it because for me the s2 is loud enough. I'm more worried about the quality of the sound.
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It simple buddy take your handset into a store that sells these headsets and test the thing in house.
From there your should be able to make up your mind.
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It simple buddy take your handset into a store that sells these headsets and test the thing in house.
From there your should be able to make up your mind.
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I've thought of this, the only problem is finding a store that sells the audio technica ath-m50. I live in London I'm sure there is plenty of stores.
However this would not be much help because I'm not very experienced with high end headphones, so probably almost anything will sound good to me.
If you want to listen to boom boom music with heavy bass then the SGS2 is inadequate .Expensive headphones are not going to do that much .
However as a user who does not have any boom boom music i find stock player headphones or slightly upmarket low end Sennheiser headphones fine .
Power Amp for me strangely lowers sound output level .
jje
I've the same experience as JJEgan with Power Amp. It seems to boost dynamic range at the sacrifice of overall volume.
For getting the best out of high-end headphones, you could always try Neutron Music Player from Android Market. It claims to use its own "32-bit audio music rendering core", although it's debatable whether this makes a difference, given that uncompressed CDs only have 16-bits per sample. People seem to like it, though.
Just recently I noticed something when listening to music using Poweramp with a headphone.
When you click on something such as the app drawer, the volume of the music that you are listening to increases for fraction of a second then it goes back to normal.
It can be very annoying when you are using the phone while listening.
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Thanks for all the replies.
I've started to change my mind about buying an audio technica ath-m50, maybe I should stick with the headphones from poundland.
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Tephlon said:
I've the same experience as JJEgan with Power Amp. It seems to boost dynamic range at the sacrifice of overall volume.
For getting the best out of high-end headphones, you could always try Neutron Music Player from Android Market. It claims to use its own "32-bit audio music rendering core", although it's debatable whether this makes a difference, given that uncompressed CDs only have 16-bits per sample. People seem to like it, though.
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Tried Neutron at the weekend, and these old ears couldn't see - OK, hear - what the fuss is about. No difference from Poweramp with a very unscientific ABX on my Sennheiser IE8s.
Definitely the worst UI I've seen on any music player though - so hideous that it should win awards.
Get rockbox.
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I use studio beats by dre, they have an amp built into them and they kick bass hard, hi fi quality audio! I work in poundland and trust me their headphones don't work well with the sg2, i hope this helps
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I'm going to buy AKG K240 mk II.
I will buy a FiiO E6 with the AKG. The last tweaks will be done with DSP.
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Senn HD25-1s and Ety ER4-Ps both sound fine straight out of the headphone socket.
Using poweramp, without any eq or tone control tweaks, just ~30% crossfeed.
I read all the reports of crappy audio on the GS2, so when I got mine and tried it I was very pleasantly suprised.
Whereabouts in Poweramp settings is crossfeed...Didn't realise Poweramp supported it ?
bejay said:
Senn HD25-1s and Ety ER4-Ps both sound fine straight out of the headphone socket.
Using poweramp, without any eq or tone control tweaks, just ~30% crossfeed.
I read all the reports of crappy audio on the GS2, so when I got mine and tried it I was very pleasantly suprised.
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On the tone/vol/bal page, next to the volume control. It's labeled stereo x.
Ahhhh. So that's what Poweramp calls crossfeed. Gotcha Yeah I normally have that on around 35% with Brainwavz M3's.
Thanks for that bit of info
Edit to add - Out of thanks for the day, will hit you up later.
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On the tone/vol/bal page, next to the volume control. It's labeled stereo x.
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No problem
Is anyone else getting this ? I thought the phone speaker was supposed to be beats too. But in settings this option is disabled for me. I dont rrally see the point of beats being in the phone if you need the headphones for it to work
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Pretty sure Beats is only headphones.
I could be wrong, but that's my belief.
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Dri94 said:
Is anyone else getting this ? I thought the phone speaker was supposed to be beats too. But in settings this option is disabled for me. I dont rrally see the point of beats being in the phone if you need the headphones for it to work
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You don't really think that those weeny little phone speakers will withstand the amp, do you?
Besides, it would sound like garbage.
adrynalyne said:
You don't really think that those weeny little phone speakers will withstand the amp, do you?
Besides, it would sound like garbage.
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Obviously not extreme bass but making a pure beats speaker in the phone would is possible. Headphone only is sort of dumb....
Oh and adrenalyne are yu switching from nexus to dna?
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Dri94 said:
Obviously not extreme bass but making a pure beats speaker in the phone would is possible. Headphone only is sort of dumb....
Oh and adrenalyne are yu switching from nexus to dna?
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I am evaluating. Even if I keep it, it remains to be seen if I will move away from the Nexus community. Open source spoils ya and I'm not too happy on how its locked down, even if it can be worked around.
Re: Beats
It takes upgraded speakers to withstand the amp, IME. I have a laptop with 6 speakers and a sub inside and the amp inside the laptop even pushes them to the edge sometimes. I've actually come close to blowing out some cheap skullcandy over the ear headphones
I have also found that some music sounds a lot better with Beats turned off (although the amp still has a part in that).
Sorry, but Beats Audio over the built in speaker is totally pointless. It will not make a blind bit of difference. I'd recommend one of these and at least then you wiill get decent sound if portability is a problem.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Generation-...BN42/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1353795092&sr=8-1
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I am evaluating. Even if I keep it, it remains to be seen if I will move away from the Nexus community. Open source spoils ya and I'm not too happy on how its locked down, even if it can be worked around.
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It takes upgraded speakers to withstand the amp, IME. I have a laptop with 6 speakers and a sub inside and the amp inside the laptop even pushes them to the edge sometimes. I've actually come close to blowing out some cheap skullcandy over the ear headphones
I have also found that some music sounds a lot better with Beats turned off (although the amp still has a part in that).
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i have to agree, i just got the phone today and had to instantly start doing much research into htc and all the limitations and just wished i didnt have verizon so i could have gotten the nexus 4. i think it would be a very fun development device for you, but do say youll have an easier time in the nexus community, although id love to see what you can do for the dna :cyclops:
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Sorry, but Beats Audio over the built in speaker is totally pointless. It will not make a blind bit of difference. I'd recommend one of these and at least then you wiill get decent sound if portability is a problem.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Generation-...BN42/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1353795092&sr=8-1
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a beats speaker could give higher quality audio and higher output sounds, its about the same size of an in ear... and no thanks, i was just wondering because this is my first time with an htc phone, and the commercials always made it seem as if dr dre actually used his speakers and not jus endorsed each other lol
I used Klipsch Image one and Klipsch M40's when I had my One X and would always, I mean always, turn off the equalizer because it would just make the sound muddy and drown out the speakers with bass. From what I understand, this is really just a software equalizer for the headphones.
Still never understood how audio quality and Dr. Dre = Monster branded Beats by Dre.
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I used Klipsch Image one and Klipsch M40's when I had my One X and would always, I mean always, turn off the equalizer because it would just make the sound muddy and drown out the speakers with bass. From what I understand, this is really just a software equalizer for the headphones.
Still never understood how audio quality and Dr. Dre = Monster branded Beats by Dre.
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Unlike the One X, this has upgraded hardware too.
From HTC's press release:
Authentic Sound
The DROID DNA by HTC has a unique, 2.55-volt, built-in headset amplifier and dedicated amp for the external rear-speaker to help boost the audio signal to deliver crystal clear sound with less distortion, even at maximum volume. The combination of amplified hardware and the rich, authentic, studio-quality sound of Beats Audio™ allows music to be heard the way the artist intended, and enhances the sound quality while playing games or watching video.
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Not that it's necessarily a big deal. All speakers are connected to an amplifier. It could be a 1 watt amp or a 2,000 but all speakers need a decent amount of juice to make power them, relative to other components.
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I am evaluating. Even if I keep it, it remains to be seen if I will move away from the Nexus community. Open source spoils ya and I'm not too happy on how its locked down, even if it can be worked around.
Re: Beats
It takes upgraded speakers to withstand the amp, IME. I have a laptop with 6 speakers and a sub inside and the amp inside the laptop even pushes them to the edge sometimes. I've actually come close to blowing out some cheap skullcandy over the ear headphones
I have also found that some music sounds a lot better with Beats turned off (although the amp still has a part in that).
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I've been wondering its off topic what makes the nex 4 hardware different in bench why is the scoring so different not that it matters in actually using it but the hardware is pretty much the same right ?
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I've been wondering its off topic what makes the nex 4 hardware different in bench why is the scoring so different not that it matters in actually using it but the hardware is pretty much the same right ?
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Probably thermal throttling.
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Probably thermal throttling.
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A single benchmark shouldn't make it hot to the point of throttling.
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A single benchmark shouldn't make it hot to the point of throttling.
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Yet, benches when in a cold environment are much higher.
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A single benchmark shouldn't make it hot to the point of throttling.
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Shouldn't be, but sources say it is. The casing of the Nexus 4 seems to somehow be different in a way to cause it to overheat.
Dri94 said:
Is anyone else getting this ? I thought the phone speaker was supposed to be beats too. But in settings this option is disabled for me. I dont rrally see the point of beats being in the phone if you need the headphones for it to work
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im getting the same thing. and yes the ads say the dna has two beats amps one for headphones and one for speaker. This was a big reason i bought the phone. if you get any info on a solution please post.
jasonfarrell said:
im getting the same thing. and yes the ads say the dna has two beats amps one for headphones and one for speaker. This was a big reason i bought the phone. if you get any info on a solution please post.
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It has an amp for the speakers, it just doesnt have a "beats" eq on it, which would be pointless.
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I remember using the display DNA and that thing was loud now that I have one not nowhere near as loud
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I'm getting this also on my new DNA . The thing is , it's a problem because you can't change the settings even with beats headphones in . I have four different types and the settings are not accessible with any of them plugged in, it still says the same thing, not accessible through speaker when the headphones are plugged in so something is messed up. If you can't change the beats settings with beats plugged in then what's the point of even having the freaking setting ? It's really annoying.
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I'm getting this also on my new DNA . The thing is , it's a problem because you can't change the settings even with beats headphones in . I have four different types and the settings are not accessible with any of them plugged in, it still says the same thing, not accessible through speaker when the headphones are plugged in so something is messed up. If you can't change the beats settings with beats plugged in then what's the point of even having the freaking setting ? It's really annoying.
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Sounds like something is borked hardware wise on your phone.
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