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So jazzed to see what is possible with this device!
I'm on board!
Have any dev's commited to developing for Nook Tablet?
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Have any dev's commited to developing for Nook Tablet?
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I'm wondering the same thing. I'm looking at purchasing my first tablet and I'm having a hard time choosing between the KF and the NT.
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I'm wondering the same thing. I'm looking at purchasing my first tablet and I'm having a hard time choosing between the KF and the NT.
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Same here, one of those two is going to be my first tablet. I have no intention of keeping either stock though, so the dev community is going to make or break it for me. I've heard nothing but good things about the original Nook Color community so I'm leaning way more towards a Nook right now.
If the Nook Tablet is anything like a Nook Color, its going to be a modders playground.
the NC was by far the best android tablet on the market for the money. Just needed a bit of tweaks.
If BN took the NC and upgraded some Hardware, its going to be one sweet device.
WTH, where is my ICS port? It's been what.. 3 hours now.
Lazy developers...
(kidding, of course =)
after getting my hands on one today, it really is just new hardware in the same shell. the ui got a little bit of a makeover too but it's still pretty familiar stuff. overall it felt very snappy.
The B&N by our house has them in stock and on sale. I just picked one up. Never having the original Nook color to compare with, I can't comment on that but so far it's a nice little tablet. I really only picked it up for the eventual root and port action.
I'm curious about the K Fire as well, but the lack of SD card slot made me think that rooting, flashing and overall modding would be a pain. I've got 2 weeks before I change my mind and pick that one up instead. Either way, I'm excited!
I am not an Android development expert but....
I have seen that the ICS sourcecode can be built for the Pandaboard which has the same processor of the new Nook Tablet (TI OMAP4430).
Does this mean that the ICS ROM could run on the Nook Tablet as well? What am I missing here?
Thanks!
C.
connor32 said:
I am not an Android development expert but....
I have seen that the ICS sourcecode can be built for the Pandaboard which has the same processor of the new Nook Tablet (TI OMAP4430).
Does this mean that the ICS ROM could run on the Nook Tablet as well? What am I missing here?
Thanks!
C.
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It's not just a CPU thing. Every hardware need his own drivers.
Surely soon we will have a full port of ICS for our NookTablets, but now we have still no ROOT, so... just be patient
CM9 will arrive maybe in 2 months, MIUI on middle Dec.
We need Autonooter first.
Seems like the KF has already been rooted.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/16/kindle-fire-gets-rooted-with-one-click-paves-the-way-for-amaz/
Nook Tabled FTW
well im going to buy a Nook Tablet, cuz SD Card Slot and double size Space and RAM is really making the difference between the KF and Nook Tablet. i just hope that enough Developers would see that the same way and buy Nook Tablet so we can get KickASS Custom ROMS and goodies
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Have any dev's commited to developing for Nook Tablet?
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I'm tempted to expand my kernel hacking to OMAP - but it's hard to justify when I already have a Samsung 10.1...
Has kernel source been posted yet?
Entropy512 said:
I'm tempted to expand my kernel hacking to OMAP - but it's hard to justify when I already have a Samsung 10.1...
Has kernel source been posted yet?
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Do eeeeeeeet!!!
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I'm tempted to expand my kernel hacking to OMAP - but it's hard to justify when I already have a Samsung 10.1...
Has kernel source been posted yet?
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I didnt see it being released, but it looks like BN has good attitude towards rooting, as mentioned in other threads.
But yeah, please help us get this thing opened up, this would be an incredible tablet - powerful and small.
It makes me a tad sad to see the KF get rooted already and the NT has had little to no progress. I hope development picks up soon. It's kind of depressing to see Amazon stealing the thunder from the little guy.
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It makes me a tad sad to see the KF get rooted already and the NT has had little to no progress. I hope development picks up soon. It's kind of depressing to see Amazon stealing the thunder from the little guy.
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Keep in mind that BN moved up the release date at the last minute.. not every store had them today and the BN.com website still said 11/18..
I'd be surprised if we don't get root before too long.
Yeah, I believe the KF is already officially on sale, while the only NT owners are some lucky preorder customers who managed to get the unit earlier than planned.
Remember, right now, technically the NT is still a "pre-launch" device.
My guess is kernel source will show up when the NT support pages go live (they don't exist yet.)
I was able to just walk in to a store and buy one yesterday without a pre-order.. but I suppose I was lucky.
Here's hoping for the kernel source soon.
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I recall about a month and a half ago, all of the xda peeps getting together and raising a big stink against viewsonic and nvidia about not supporting our choice of tablets, I also recall them saying that they were going to continue to support the tablet from that point on.
Well...... I haven't seen much from either of them and it seems that this community is content to sit back and and get fed a load of crap from 2 companies that should have better track records for customer service than they have shown us.
What gives? are we dead in the water? Did they just say enough to appease us in hopes that we would just go away? Are we just going to sit here and keep saying to ourselves that something is "coming soon"?
First and foremost, this should not be in the development forum as it has nothing to do with development, it should be in General or Q/A.
To comment on your post, yes, we are probably **** out of luck.
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this community is content to sit back and and get fed a load of crap from 2 companies that should have better track records for customer service than they have shown us.
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It's called acceptance. I believe it's stage 5 of the grieving process.
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It's called acceptance. I believe it's stage 5 of the grieving process.
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LOL ! ! RIP GTAB
actually there may be little stink becuase some people have realized that we dont' need VS to provide us what we need. They let the 1.2 bootloader out of hte bag, then closed the bag back up, rather quickly. The 1.2 bootloader is the same bootloader that Notion Ink uses on the Adam, also produced by Malata, also with the Tegra 2 Harmony hardware, and now also with the same bootloader as the G-Tablet.
So, since we've accepted that VS is going to be the proverbial dead beat dad, we've noticed that Notion Ink is a tad more responsible. So, what dad won't provide, maybe we can get from stepdad.
It's rumored that Notion Ink is getting an official GB update, with drivers from Nvidea. All VS had to do was make it possible for G-Tablet devs to port roms from Adam (done with 1.2 bootloader) and tada, they no longer need to support the device, because they can rely on others to do it for them.
We'd like them to continue providing updates, or at least admit that we are still here, but we don't necessarily NEED them to do it anymore.
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What gives? are we dead in the water? Did they just say enough to appease us in hopes that we would just go away? Are we just going to sit here and keep saying to ourselves that something is "coming soon"?
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There are new and fresh ROMs around for the tablet. Our "community" is fairly large and crosses many forums.
are there any honeycomb roms yet?
or any gb roms that dont disable the hardware video acceleration?
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are there any honeycomb roms yet?
or any gb roms that dont disable the hardware video acceleration?
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Just have a look around. Roebeet is working on a HC port. Adam evs have begun working on a port for HC, and Roe is working on fixing the bugs to make it work on the G-Tablet. It's still in Alpha versions, but has caused some pretty big waves in the community...but, video drivers are proviing to be the deal breaker there right now, too.
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are there any honeycomb roms yet?
or any gb roms that dont disable the hardware video acceleration?
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The CM7.1 nightlies are GB and have some hardware acceleration built-in now.
Sorry about posting in rom dev. I always check here first and was saddened by the lack of new items coming in.
It isn't just the software that I'm speaking of, what about all the hardware that other tablet vendors have available the docking stations actually made for their tablets, the cases and covers that fit without any modifications.
I went into a "tech" store the other day, won't mention which one, and when I explained that I already had a VS tablet the salesperson actually said.. "Well we sell real android tablets here so let me know if you want to talk about what we have in stock."
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I went into a "tech" store the other day, won't mention which one, and when I explained that I already had a VS tablet the salesperson actually said.. "Well we sell real android tablets here so let me know if you want to talk about what we have in stock."
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That sounds like a sales pitch to me. Just because some people don't realize the potential of a product, doesn't make that product extinct.
My buyer's remorse is increasing...
They had 7" Galaxy Tabs on Woot.com for $260 yesterday. I wish I knew they were going to be lowered in price so much in anticipation of the 10" version coming soon, because I would gladly have bought one of these instead...
I would take my gtab over a 7" galaxy tab anyday.
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I would take my gtab over a 7" galaxy tab anyday.
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+1
Just becuase it doesn't have the latest and greatest that a $800.00 tablet has, it does exactly what I want and I knew what I was getting into when I bought mine from WOOT.
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I would take my gtab over a 7" galaxy tab anyday.
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Seriously ! Samsung is just as bad as VS when it comes to support in any way. Be happy with your purchase and in a year get a transformer when the price drops to 250 and it already has a fat stack of roms to play with.
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...it does exactly what I want and I knew what I was getting into when I bought mine from WOOT.
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I read about it quite a bit here prior to my purchase and knew that I'd be able to at least get it rocking a solid and clean froyo.. If I can get GB and/or HC on it eventually that's just icing on the cake for me.. (I say eventually, because I won't jump until hw vid accel is nearly 100%)
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I look forward to kalel and the ice cream sandwich future. The only thing interesting to me in honeycomb are the pinch more tablet specific apps and the new 3.1 usb compatibility.
I hate to sponsor another site but you should go check out www.slatedroid.com Roebeet is there releasing tons of roms for this beast. I don't know why you are complaining unless you paid the full 499 or whatever price these tabs normally sell for. I picked mine up for 299 and haven't looked back. OCed to 1.4 ghz brilliant corners rom is running perfectly it ran great at stock too. Im getting between 3800 and 4100 in quadrant I have yet to get below a 3800. It runs all my games fine flash 10.3 and full market access. Its exactly what I want.
as far as hardware and accessories, you'll just never get that with ANY android tablet. sure, you'll get some things from the manufacturer, like our dock, and official tablet, but there just isn't anything pushing third party vendors to make products specific to any android tablet. The main reason is that each tablet is just so different.
If we are going ot bite the bullet and insist n NOT getting an iThing, then we have ot accept that we won't have as many iAccessories or iDocks, or iCases, etc.
I bought a zune...2 of them actually, knowing that I wouldn't be able ot use any of the plethora of accessories that were made for the iPod.
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I hate to sponsor another site but you should go check out www.slatedroid.com Roebeet is there releasing tons of roms for this beast. I don't know why you are complaining unless you paid the full 499 or whatever price these tabs normally sell for. I picked mine up for 299 and haven't looked back. OCed to 1.4 ghz brilliant corners rom is running perfectly it ran great at stock too. Im getting between 3800 and 4100 in quadrant I have yet to get below a 3800. It runs all my games fine flash 10.3 and full market access. Its exactly what I want.
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No Netflix.
I wanted to say thanks guys! All of you have been great and I have learned a lot about my touchpad. But on Friday I will be getting a Xoom. I like the touchpad but I really want Honeycomb. I like CM7 but I am kind of sick of it as I have it on my Nook and phone. So My touchpad will go on e-bay this weekend. I love Webos but I just dont see a real future in it (even with a new ceo). If they pick it back up and start putting out new stuff maybe i will return one day.
I know you guys will be rocking these things to the fullest!
Best of luck with your new device.
the whole community basically collapsed on itself. I don't think I'll be buying another tablet anytime soon. it's not worth it. Maybe 2020, things might improve... I'm throwing this TP in the trash..
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the whole community basically collapsed on itself. I don't think I'll be buying another tablet anytime soon. it's not worth it. Maybe 2020, things might improve... I'm throwing this TP in the trash..
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I'll take it for free if you dont want it
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...But on Friday I will be getting a Xoom...
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Good luck with your new device but are you sure you wanna get the Xoom? You should really give the Samsung Galaxy 8.9 or 10.1 a try. Better yet, wait for the Sony Tablet S.
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Good luck with your new device but are you sure you wanna get the Xoom? You should really give the Samsung Galaxy 8.9 or 10.1 a try. Better yet, wait for the Sony Tablet S.
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Personally, I would get a Xoom too, with it being Google's child basically, it's always going to be in the loop for things.
Good luck i would to recommend the sammy im gonna hold on a bit longer and wait for cm7 after a month the £89 i paid doesnt seem as much of a bargain
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I don't know what the hell matter is over HP, and I used to trust HP a lot and still hold my confidence with those guys. But why HP just pick up some changing plans and move on? I still HP still have unique competitiveness in hardware field of IT industry.
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I'm throwing this TP in the trash..
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Suuuuuuure you are.
bunch of emo children
How did Google Chrome get all it's apps?
Well i like the Samsung, but it does not have a SD slot, HDMI out (I think there is another one but i can remember). Now i could but the adapters for the Samsung but the hell with that lol.
The Xoom will not cost me a lot once i sell the TP. The xoom also has some great Roms, apps and accessory support.
I will miss the touchstone.. that's my favorite thing lol.
Good luck OP with your new device.
End of discussion, thank you.
Does it seem like they will eventually figure out how to get custom roms and kernels, or is it still up in the air as to if its even possible. And I've read of the possibility of b&n doing an OTA update that would close the door on the current rooting method and side loading of apps, is there any reason to believe they would? Or is that just paranoid speculation.
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Does it seem like they will eventually figure out how to get custom roms and kernels, or is it still up in the air as to if its even possible. And I've read of the possibility of b&n doing an OTA update that would close the door on the current rooting method and side loading of apps, is there any reason to believe they would? Or is that just paranoid speculation.
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OTA updates to the BC broke rooting so I assume a OTA to the NT would do the same. Usually rooting was restored in a few days. Custom kernels are a different issue and currently is unknown.
Kindle has CM7 booting on it. may have to go for the kindle over the nook tablet. Custom roms and kernels are a big selling factor and the kindle seems much closer to that.
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Yeah, you should got the Kindle route. If CM7 is your main concern, then yes, Kindle is for you.
The NT has been out 2 weeks and its already being written off.
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The NT has been out 2 weeks and its already being written off.
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True... Sadly, I doubt the higher ups of B&N really care about that small 1% for whom this is a concern. I'm still on the fence myself, but for me it's a NT or just save my money and wait; The lack of uSD kills the KF for me and I don't need/want a tablet enough to justify anything with a higher pricetag.
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Yeah, you should got the Kindle route. If CM7 is your main concern, then yes, Kindle is for you.
The NT has been out 2 weeks and its already being written off.
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I think its a little early to say its being written off. The awesome developers on this forum are still working on it, and probably others too. Even if the fully rooted device is as far as it goes, it is still a great device for the money.
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Yeah, you should got the Kindle route. If CM7 is your main concern, then yes, Kindle is for you.
The NT has been out 2 weeks and its already being written off.
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Sad but true. Stupid of B&N to lock the bootloader ... hopefully, bad sales will validate the point!
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Sad but true. Stupid of B&N to lock the bootloader ... hopefully, bad sales will validate the point!
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Not likely. Stopped by B&N on the way from class today and saw 3-4 people walk out with the NT during the time(30 min?) I was hanging around talking to the "tech". They're still selling quite well, but time will tell if they can keep it up.
B&N couldn't care less about losing sales to those who aren't buying their low cost eReader to use as intended. There is little to no margin for selling it as a general purpose tablet so they really don't care that those who can't load a custom ROM aren't happy with their device. Lot's of more expensive tablets out there for those who want to do custom development and a Nook app for those who want to buy their online products.
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I wonder if the Kindle Fire is actually helping NT sales. The KF sell people on the idea of getting a 7" tablet, but they shop around and finds that the NT has better specs for a little more. They read reviews like Engadget that say the NT plays videos smoother. The NT is suddenly on their radar.
The average person wouldn't care a bit about the bootloader, though they might be disappointed to find out about the 1GB limit for own content.
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I wonder if the Kindle Fire is actually helping NT sales. The KF sell people on the idea of getting a 7" tablet, but they shop around and finds that the NT has better specs for a little more. They read reviews like Engadget that say the NT plays videos smoother. The NT is suddenly on their radar.
The average person wouldn't care a bit about the bootloader, though they might be disappointed to find out about the 1GB limit for own content.
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If I understand correctly if the Nook is rooted apps install in the 15gb partition so rooted nooks have access to more than 1gb. Of course your average user isn't going to root their device.
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If I understand correctly if the Nook is rooted apps install in the 15gb partition so rooted nooks have access to more than 1gb. Of course your average user isn't going to root their device.
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Sideloaded apps also. You wanna move files to the B&N partition, you use root file manager to move.
I wouldnt mind buying apps if b&n actually had any in thier market. They dont have crap.
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Atleast for me the NT led to a kindle sale. Custom roms and kernels are a big deal to me, and I'm guessing the kindle is a week or two away from CM7 and most likely CM9 as well. And maybe the devs figure out a way around NTs locked boot loader, but there also seems to be a good chance they don't. It was a simple decision.
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Atleast for me the NT led to a kindle sale. Custom roms and kernels are a big deal to me, and I'm guessing the kindle is a week or two away from CM7 and most likely CM9 as well. And maybe the devs figure out a way around NTs locked boot loader, but there also seems to be a good chance they don't. It was a simple decision.
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I keep reading on various forums that the locked bootloader is a Nook Tab killer. Why?????? Please educate an old man as to why this is such a big deal. Within 3 days and less than an hour of tapping, I was able to sideload Amazon App store the Whole Kindle store, Google and a whole host of other sites that have content and applications for free or for sale. Already there are people who have rooted the tablet. Please tell an ignorant old man WHY it is so important to unlock the bootloader. What would you do/have once you unlocked the bootloader that you can't do without? Is it just because the locked bootloader feels like a slap in the face to developers? I mean what more would you do to it that you can't already do with it locked down?
My Tab does everything and more than I'd ever do with a real tablet so I'm just very curious as to what all the fuss is about.
Custom ROMS and kernels allow you to really extend the life of your device (meaning the device won't seem outdated so quickly). The CPU can be overclocked, the voltage tweaked for better battery life, newer versions of the android OS can be uploaded, etc.
Back to the future
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... Within 3 days and less than an hour of tapping, I was able to sideload Amazon App store the Whole Kindle store, Google and a whole host of other sites that have content and applications for free or for sale.
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Question: What happens when B&N releases an automatic update (replacing your system and your downloaded apps) and it closes the hole that you used to install additional apps?
Answer: We don't know. Having a way around the bootloader (eg, booting SDcards) gives some assurance that we will be able to root future versions, allowing continued "unauthorized" apps.
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I keep reading on various forums that the locked bootloader is a Nook Tab killer. Why?????? Please educate an old man as to why this is such a big deal. Within 3 days and less than an hour of tapping, I was able to sideload Amazon App store the Whole Kindle store, Google and a whole host of other sites that have content and applications for free or for sale. Already there are people who have rooted the tablet. Please tell an ignorant old man WHY it is so important to unlock the bootloader. What would you do/have once you unlocked the bootloader that you can't do without? Is it just because the locked bootloader feels like a slap in the face to developers? I mean what more would you do to it that you can't already do with it locked down?
My Tab does everything and more than I'd ever do with a real tablet so I'm just very curious as to what all the fuss is about.
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Here's why:
- A regular build of Android is better than the dumbed down version used in the nook tablet line.
- Ice Cream Sandwich is 10x better than Gingerbread.
- A tablet version of Android is better than smartphone version used in the nook.
Thanks everyone for the quick education. I understand much better now. It does appear that with a locked bootloader the customer is at the mercy of the vendor. They control the software, they control the hardware you just bought and paid for. I get it now. Sounds like I just rented a Barnes & Noble portal to their content. They can close the back door to any other apps anytime they choose. Almost doesn't seem fair.
Just wondering if there are any plans to put CM9 on here and how is the dev support for this device?
I know the original nook was a modders dream, but that was a while back, and since then there have been a slew of tablets release.. I've been considering this device, just not sure yet..
It has quite a few advantages over the competition for sure.. Just heard this one is much more locked down..
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Just wondering if there are any plans to put CM9 on here and how is the dev support for this device?
I know the original nook was a modders dream, but that was a while back, and since then there have been a slew of tablets release.. I've been considering this device, just not sure yet..
It has quite a few advantages over the competition for sure.. Just heard this one is much more locked down..
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The locked bootloader prevents CM7 or CM9 or any other rom on it. If/when the developers figure out how to get around this, then I'm sure it will have it.
Hm... interesting.
Thanks.. I hate locked bootloaders x.x....
Sorta defeats the whole "open source" part of the product.
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Hm... interesting.
Thanks.. I hate locked bootloaders x.x....
Sorta defeats the whole "open source" part of the product.
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Yeah, was a real bummer for lots of developers when they found that out.
But its still a good tablet.
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Hm... interesting.
Thanks.. I hate locked bootloaders x.x....
Sorta defeats the whole "open source" part of the product.
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Have you ever seen a consumer Android product advertised as a open source product? Its not a selling point, just a OEM/carrier adoption strategy.
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Have you ever seen a consumer Android product advertised as a open source product? Its not a selling point, just a OEM/carrier adoption strategy.
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Fair enough.
As others have stated, it is locked down. But so far I am actually loving the thing. Personally I prefer the form factor of this tab over others, and it is in fact suprisingly fast/great battery life for the price of the thing.
Do not regret my purchase one bit.
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So far side loading has taken care of anything i've wanted to do on the Nook Tablet. The locked bootloader hasn't restricted me in any way. I compared the Nook color, the Amazon Fire and the Nook Tablet side by side and chose the Nook Tablet over the other two by a wide margein.
although there is no cm9 for it yet... i reckon it still works great with a launcher!
You guys may have just sold me on it.
I must admit.. there was a lot of attention to detail put into the ease of holding/weight and as far as 7" tablets go it is pretty serious business.
Just running an AOSP ICS rom I must say I like the OS, task manager ect ect ect.
I must say dev support here at XDA is a major determining factor in any of my mobile/android based purchases though.. I knew when I got my Captivate devs were going to carry it as far as they could or my contract was up.
That was almost a year ago and now that is on ICS I think it has a lot of life left.. so I really am hoping the nook tab gets the same.. Just hard to say since there are so many other tablet options now.. still great bang for buck.. just don't know if it will bring in the same support as the nook color.. making it hard to jump on.
I am thinking of getting a Touchpad and have started doing my research into Android roms and the processes around it. However I am getting a bit confused as to the overall steps, what is available, and how it all works.
So far I have gathered that it will end up being a dual boot. I have seen some mentioning about ClockworkMod, but then I have also seen other posts that say it has issues of some kind.
I guess I need a bit of a basic overview. How does the recovery work? Are all Roms CM7/9 based? How are they installed?
And the biggie, is it worth it? I love the specs and the price (looking at 145 for the 32gb model). But it is unsupported hardware so the question of lifespan comes up in my mind.
Thanks
Ok, I found this thread that helped a bit:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1305891
I am assuming the process is the same for all CM versions. However it mentions ClockworkMod as well, yet does not seem to use it. Is it even needed or is everything managed via the SDK?
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Ok, I found this thread that helped a bit:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1305891
I am assuming the process is the same for all CM versions. However it mentions ClockworkMod as well, yet does not seem to use it. Is it even needed or is everything managed via the SDK?
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You may find some value in watching a few of my Touchpad videos:
http://www.youtube.com/user/reverendkjr?feature=mhee
I explain a lot of the processes in a very easy to follow way.
That is a great tutorial! Thanks for pointing me to it.
It does clear up several questions for me. One thing I am curious about is if future updates after the first time are handled via ClockworkMod or do we have to use the computer to flash roms every time?
I still have to check out your other videos when I get home, they throttle Youtube at work . I know it is a silly question but what are your thoughts on the Touchpad in general? Is it worth the purchase?
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That is a great tutorial! Thanks for pointing me to it.
It does clear up several questions for me. One thing I am curious about is if future updates after the first time are handled via ClockworkMod or do we have to use the computer to flash roms every time?
I still have to check out your other videos when I get home, they throttle Youtube at work . I know it is a silly question but what are your thoughts on the Touchpad in general? Is it worth the purchase?
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The Touchpad is a wonderful piece of equipment. I would never have bought a tablet if I hadn't gotten this one so cheaply. Yes, future updates should be applied by ClockworkMod. I have a video on that as well. I think you will be convinced of it's awesomeness once you watch more of them. Be sure to subscribe so you get notified when I add more. I do a new video about once a week.
calash said:
And the biggie, is it worth it? I love the specs and the price (looking at 145 for the 32gb model). But it is unsupported hardware so the question of lifespan comes up in my mind.
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Where are you seeing the 32GB Touchpad for $145? Just curios.
Ron
bluedogtouchpad said:
Where are you seeing the 32GB Touchpad for $145? Just curios.
Ron
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Work. From what I can tell my company is selling off their stock at the same prices as the firesale. The 16gb are long gone but they have some 32gb still floating around. Thinking of getting one as a Christmas gift..to myself
Edit: That was before tax and shipping but still a great deal. Wife just payed for it as a Christmas gift. Cannot wait.
calash said:
Work. From what I can tell my company is selling off their stock at the same prices as the firesale. The 16gb are long gone but they have some 32gb still floating around. Thinking of getting one as a Christmas gift..to myself
Edit: That was before tax and shipping but still a great deal. Wife just payed for it as a Christmas gift. Cannot wait.
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Can you get anymore for that price? I have Pay-Pal....
Good price for sure
If you are able to fetch it off ebay or craiglist for the cheaper prices (under $200) then go get it! You won't be able to find a ~10 incher for under $250 which has reasonable specs and does not suck.
The touchpad over all in my opinion is not bad at all. Webos will be opensourced soon by HP which means that even more work will be done on this tablet. The only major gripe with WEBOS currently is that it does not have much apps due to not being very popular, but hopefully opensourcing webos will result in some more activity.
Then comes android, specifically CM7. There are two versions out, the normal Cyanogen android OS and a "Xronified" version, which is the same as cyanogen but has lots of tweaks to get the cyanogen version running better on your tablet. Simply poo, XRON is CM7 but lots of tweaks and additions to get android going nicely on your tablet. Both versions are "alpha 3" but very usable, especially the XRON version.
One gripe about all of this is that the tablet scene is not very mature, meaning that WEBOS has barely any apps but very functional OS, while CM7/xron has many apps (all android apps) but still buggy here and there. Nothing is so bad that it is unusable, just that you might run into a bug or problem here and there, but none of it is unfix-able without checking XDA more.
Oh yeah, you can overclock this sucker to 1.5 Ghz from the stock 1.2 Ghz (I think it is 1.2) and run it fully stable. Some even got it to 1.9 Ghz, all of which gives the tablet very noticeable speed boosts.
In my situation, webos did not want to update, so I had to work with a thing called webosdoctor, and from then on I had no problems getting webos to update, overclocking it, and installing android. I just got the touchpad yesterday night, and I was able to get webos fully updated, overclocked, and set up a homebrew environment on the tablet within an hour. After that I got android on the touchpad, which took me maybe an hour too, but most of that time was spent downloading the rom (Xron is 190 MB or so), waiting for android to install on the touchpad, and realizing I did not plug in the usb cable into the touchpad all the way. It was very very easy, and no problems for me at all!
I used this guide for getting started with everything:
http://forums.webosnation.com/hp-touchpad/293028-new-touchpad-heres-your-get-started-guide.html
And then this guide for getting android onto the touchpad:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1305891 <-- CM7
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1321335 <-- xron
I first installed CM7 and then Xron, turns out you can just use the xron thread but I did CM7 and then Xron to make it easier for me.
Good luck with deciding to get a touchpad or not, if you do, it is rather fun!
It's worth getting the TP just to have fun flashing ROMs and keeping your hobbies up to date. Having gone through the flashing scenario with Dell x51v I found myself wanting more fun through custom ROMs than the regular Ipad stock crowd. I picked up the NI Adam and loved that too but to tell you the truth the TP rocks with android and this keeps me going in terms of keeping up to date with mobile hardware/software scene. If you can get one...get one, you won't regret it.
Thank you everybody for the good guidance. I saw the MIUI rom go up the other day as well so there are plenty of options.
I have been hacking phone since my old Kyocera 6035 so this type of stuff is just fun for me. This will be my first tablet, cannot wait. Shipping is due on the 19 but my wife wont let me have it until Xmas day. You can bet it will be booting Android before we go out to visit the family
A question on overclocking: I read the thread for overclocking in WebOS but I was not sure if this had any impact on the android side of things. I am very familiar with SetCPU, are the kernels we get with the roms setup to overclock in Android?
Just got mine. Have to wait for Christmas too. Ratts!!!!!
calash said:
A question on overclocking: I read the thread for overclocking in WebOS but I was not sure if this had any impact on the android side of things. I am very familiar with SetCPU, are the kernels we get with the roms setup to overclock in Android?
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Nope. The two OS's are completely independent. Get Antutu CPU Master (free) to OC in Android.