I know everyone says to flash them all and find out what you like but i have some questions...i know the main difference is the UI between them all but what about the things in the background?.....
Performance?
Scripts?
Battery Life?
Features?
Options?
Customization?
Camera/camcorder function (interface/hd video)?
Thanks guys!
viskey said:
I know everyone says to flash them all and find out what you like but i have some questions...i know the main difference is the UI between them all but what about the things in the background?.....
Performance?
Scripts?
Battery Life?
Features?
Options?
Customization?
Camera/camcorder function (interface/hd video)?
Thanks guys!
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I am not trying to come off as a **** so sorry if it seems like that.
its just that for someone to actually answer every one of those questions in depth and compare EACH of our available roms will take a LOT of time for something that can be found out fairly quickly as u said "just flash and try"...
A nandroid before starting will make checking them all out less hasseling if u don't.enjoy them...
But u could also just download the roms and use something like root explorer to go thru the system apps and check system/etc/init.d to see scripts being included and find out pretty much everything u want to know(except battery life...which.is subjective anyways depending on your personal usage preferences making it hard for anyone to really say which has "better" battery....not like we have custom kernels to go with the roms to improve battery/performance so there's only so much we can squeeze out of it)
I would love to sit here and explain the differences between roms on each thing.u ask but the.post would probably be about 10x as long as this one is
What I CAN say about all your questions is I feel like ALL our roms show a nice improvement over the stock equivalent
Thanks! I've been reading a bit on all of them but all I really found was UI differences. That's why I posed the question about behind the scenes. Thanks for the info though.
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And thank YOU for not taking offense
I wish I COULD answer all of those. Lol
But as I'm sure you know each rom has its benefits with the "behind the scenes" scripts/tweaks and such.
the thing about each.of those tweaks is that the dev who put them into their rom as they saw fit because they feel those are the mods that make the most of their rom.
And then on top of that we have a few mods/tweaks we can make (like build.prop edits or tweak those scripts) as WE feel benefits each of us depending on our usage and what we looking.for.
I tend to try and.keep the tweaks the dev instituted tho and altering then slightly sometimes rather than going and say, flashing speedy scripts to replace them. Sure they might benefit some but most of the tweaks in those scripts have usually been implemented somewhere by the dev and.if not then they felt it wasn't really needed to make the rom better. That's just my opinion tho. Some people swear by using certain tweaks across all roms and that's just fine also.
The BEST part about.all of this is that at least we can experiment somewhat to find what we like
now just imagine what would be available to us if we had unlocked bootloader. This would be considered probably THE BEST 3g phone available. But until then we are stuck wondering if we will be.locked in a cage forever. But at least we have.some.nice roms and stuff to mess with
I will say that I really do enjoy Eclipse 1.2. Battery life is alright, which may just be something that is a user or, I D 10 T error. FOr me it has been a learning experience having come from a DX, which apparently is way different haha.
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why flash the rom on your phone?
which custom rom does what?
any specific rom for specific purposes?
and finally, what is the best place to start learning about how to do this...
Dan
pierhogunn said:
why flash the rom on your phone?
which custom rom does what?
any specific rom for specific purposes?
and finally, what is the best place to start learning about how to do this...
Dan
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To get certain things that stock ROMS don't have. Like: Speed, not loaded with Carrier crap.
The ROM post should have info about what is included and what isn't.
Some are made to have more RAM some are made to run Smoother.
Wiki.
I might be wrong, but that is what I have learned overtime.
pierhogunn said:
why flash the rom on your phone?
which custom rom does what?
any specific rom for specific purposes?
and finally, what is the best place to start learning about how to do this...
Dan
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Who is your carrier?
Good Question
I am glad you asked this because I have been wondering the same thing.
I have the VZW Touch Pro and was reading a LOT on unlocking and then flashing ROMs. I didnt know really what the benefits were besides speed and making it smoother. Does the ROM allow you to have better themes?
Eventually (sooner than later I think) they will be able to unlock the GPS on VZW as well.
I really wish somebody could post a video or something on YouTube on either how to go about the process or what it looks like after flashing a custom ROM.
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I am glad you asked this because I have been wondering the same thing.
I have the VZW Touch Pro and was reading a LOT on unlocking and then flashing ROMs. I didnt know really what the benefits were besides speed and making it smoother. Does the ROM allow you to have better themes?
Eventually (sooner than later I think) they will be able to unlock the GPS on VZW as well.
I really wish somebody could post a video or something on YouTube on either how to go about the process or what it looks like after flashing a custom ROM.
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Custom ROM"s are highly varried. You need to try them out.
I created a Custom ROM that allows you to stay with the 100% stock look, MUCH MUCH faster than ROM that came with phone.
Lots of others add a bunch of crapware and bloatware to the ROM. I didint do that to this one. I left it stock. It runs very fast.
Custom ROM"s also remove some securuity features like when youa re installing an app you are not questioned if its what you really want to do... Etc...]
Custom ROM's can also c ome with differnt themes like you inquired. They can com completly set up or come completely base. It all depends on what you want to download.
My Carrier is Sprint,
I am fairly happy with the phone as is
My only gripes are that:
it is not as responsive going from app to app as I would like
some of the apps I will never use, like the Sprint music store...
I love to diddle and play with my hardware
I do like touch-flo 3D, I think it's a nice UI, I just wish it was a bit more responsive
Dan
scrosler said:
Custom ROM"s are highly varried. You need to try them out.
I created a Custom ROM that allows you to stay with the 100% stock look, MUCH MUCH faster than ROM that came with phone.
Lots of others add a bunch of crapware and bloatware to the ROM. I didint do that to this one. I left it stock. It runs very fast.
Custom ROM"s also remove some securuity features like when youa re installing an app you are not questioned if its what you really want to do... Etc...]
Custom ROM's can also c ome with differnt themes like you inquired. They can com completly set up or come completely base. It all depends on what you want to download.
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Thank you so much for the information scrosler! I also read your other thread about the custom ROM you made. I am very thankful for you taking the time to do this for us VZW allies. I am a first to admit that I am a noob at unlocking and flashing ROMs. I dont doubt that I could simply follow the detailed instructions that you have given us. I just want to make sure that the payoff is worth it.
Is there anyway (this really may be asking too much) that you could post a video so we could see exactly what your ROM looks like and the increased speed. Or even a video of the process? Maybe even some screen shots.
I know I will end up unlocking and flashing any day. I have my phone set up just the way I like it with many beneficial programs installed, but it is not fast enough or responsive enough. I personally don't use the Touch Flo (as sexy at it looks) just because the WinMo UI works a lot better for me and is more responsive.
Again, thank you for being so kind and sharing your knowledge and not demeaning us or being rude for all the questions we ask I greatly appreciate the time and dedication it takes to create something like this and I respect it!
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Thank you so much for the information scrosler! I also read your other thread about the custom ROM you made. I am very thankful for you taking the time to do this for us VZW allies. I am a first to admit that I am a noob at unlocking and flashing ROMs. I dont doubt that I could simply follow the detailed instructions that you have given us. I just want to make sure that the payoff is worth it.
Is there anyway (this really may be asking too much) that you could post a video so we could see exactly what your ROM looks like and the increased speed. Or even a video of the process? Maybe even some screen shots.
I know I will end up unlocking and flashing any day. I have my phone set up just the way I like it with many beneficial programs installed, but it is not fast enough or responsive enough. I personally don't use the Touch Flo (as sexy at it looks) just because the WinMo UI works a lot better for me and is more responsive.
Again, thank you for being so kind and sharing your knowledge and not demeaning us or being rude for all the questions we ask I greatly appreciate the time and dedication it takes to create something like this and I respect it!
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I cant do a video, lack the ability, hehehe... I can however tell you this:
It looks and actis identical to the Stock ROM from VZW except is was built on a new CE OS. Its considerably snapier than the stock ROM in everything from boot up to touchflo scrolling.
Its 99.99% stock. The only differnece is the speed, IE 6, ICS, and Net CF 3.5 is all cooked in. It, unlike all other custom ROM's, has all stock VZW apps and the VZW touchFlow. Its a straight rip from a stock VZW leaked ROM. The details ont he ROM and the kitchen used are in the new thread.
Its just to easy to do.
Download file A, run it. Download file B, run it. Its not that much harder in all honesty.
pierhogunn said:
My Carrier is Sprint,
I am fairly happy with the phone as is
My only gripes are that:
it is not as responsive going from app to app as I would like
some of the apps I will never use, like the Sprint music store...
I love to diddle and play with my hardware
I do like touch-flo 3D, I think it's a nice UI, I just wish it was a bit more responsive
Dan
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This thread will make your day.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=44583
Also see this one.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=42730
Have fun.
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cforster said:
This thread will make your day.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=44583
Also see this one.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=42730
Have fun.
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Awesome Link!!! I just wish they had this same thing for the VZW Version!
Another stupid question...
Well I think this would be the appropriate thread to ask this.
I was wondering if there was any way to put 2 today screens into one instead of having to switch. Basically I am wanting a Touch Flo today screen at the top and the bottom half I would like to have a WinMo today screen with the two quick buttons at the bottom. Is this possible or am I just wanting too much? It seems like the themes for the Touch Flo look much better and I LOVE the black themes.
Any info. would be much appreciated!
Hi all,
I am getting my brand new factory unlocked white GSII tomorrow in the mail! I am incredibly excited, and also slightly confused. If the GSII is such a great phone, why root it? Also, if you rooted it, how do you even begin to decide what mod to use for it or what kernel?
How did you decide what mod and kernel you wanted?
Thanks!
J
The GS2 is a great phone. You don't need to root it you it satisfies your needs right-out-of-the-box, which it likely will.
Don't get the idea that everybody roots their phone just from what you see here at XDA. This is a geek community, afterall. We're the minority.
That said, everybody has their own reasons for rooting. I personally, just wanted to mute the camera sounds and use MarketEnabler.
People also root to use custom ROMs (as I do). Are custom ROMs better than stock? Perhaps. Do you absolutely need a custom ROM if you find the stock ROM just fine? Probably not.
As for choosing mods, kernals, ROMs, etc...no one can answer that for you. You'll need to pick and choose based on your needs...
I think every phone is worth rooting so you can delete those stupid apps that run in the background, delete those apps that your carrier might have put on there.
Oh and double your battery life. Not to mention cool themes. The guys making these roms tweak the **** out of the Samsung stuff to make it even better.
Plus you get that feeling of superiority when you use it-ok maybe not but whatever.
If you don't need root then don't do it. Don't bother try fix what isn't broken.
How do you decide which rom to choose from when there are so many out there? All of the descriptions seem the same to me (more battery, faster, fewer apps from carriers etc...). Is there really any difference?
Only way to find out is by trying them
Each to their own.
I like hyperdroid by the way.
If you need to ask this question, you will not need root or flash a rom. You should read a lot about the benefits and disadvantages of rooting and flashing. But at this point, you are not ready to begin messing with your phone. See this as an advice to save you lot's of trouble.
jbarol said:
How do you decide which rom to choose from when there are so many out there? All of the descriptions seem the same to me (more battery, faster, fewer apps from carriers etc...). Is there really any difference?
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Try the simple roms with less bull**** first .
Selection should be what is taken off this rom that i require and can i put it back followed by do i want what's been added and then do i like the theme .
Ignore the faster smoother better battery life bits .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1317250&highlight=HyperDynamic+V+1.0
above customized is what i use until ICS
jje
Rooting isn't the same as flashing a custom ROM or kernel. I use the stock Samsung firmware on my SGS2 but have it rooted. This allowed me to run certain apps that require elevated access rights, such as Titanium Backup.
If you don't need to root it, don't do it.
I know I am a new poster and fairly new member to XDA but that is mainly because I can read and have never really had the need to post anything. One thing that I have noticed is that ROMs are very sporadically placed throughout the forum and I think a lot of the mundane "What ROM should I use if I..." threads could be eliminated if a repository of sorts was created for them with feature list, performance eval, and battery eval.
Now I am not an expert by any means. I have played with a few ROMs trying to find one that has everything I want (yet to find) and I know I would love such a resource.
For now I am only looking at developing this for the Galaxy SII SGH-I777. I would need input from users of other devices/ROMs to supply information to expand it beyond that.
So my questions are: Would this be worthwhile? Does one already exist that I just haven't been able to find? Given the first two answers are yes and no, what specific features would you like to see in it? ROM suggestions would also be welcome as I know I don't know them all. I will gladly test them for the data myself but any extra help would be appreciated.
Thanks!
IMO, i dont think this is necessary. Most roms (at least right now) dont vary much with features. I think devs hit a ceiling with GB roms. You can create a matrix that illustrates battery life between all the roms but even thats a bit useless because battery life differs for everyone.
this is just my thought on this subject.
now that i think of it, someone did this for the captivate section and I dont believe it was used much.
Thanks!
nyydynasty said:
IMO, i dont think this is necessary. Most roms (at least right now) dont vary much with features. I think devs hit a ceiling with GB roms. You can create a matrix that illustrates battery life between all the roms but even thats a bit useless because battery life differs for everyone.
this is just my thought on this subject.
now that i think of it, someone did this for the captivate section and I dont believe it was used much.
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The lack of variety was something I noticed between a few of the ROMs I tested. I am still in the process though as I haven't had my SII for long. I was really hoping that there was more than what I've seen. I am a programmer but basically a web, iOS (only because my job trained me and paid for me to learn it for them), and database programmer. I know that I never recreate the wheel and always make sure that my programs have something that makes it unique.
I'm not saying that the devs around here aren't doing a good job. It is great that people put in the effort whether it be for their own use and they have just shared it or if they did it for the sole purpose of spreading their talents I think its great.
That said, I appreciate your input and $0.02! I would hate to start working on it and find that it was a waste of time! I do have to admit though that I was really hoping to be able to do something to help with the "Which ROM..." posts
Ehi guys, what do you think about?
Wich is the fastest without bugs?
Ics or Gb?
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There is no definitive answer to that question. There are so many different roms & kernels both GB & ICS, and there are also so many variables with regard to phone setup/use.
'Fastest' is such an arbitrary term when used in relation to smartphones.
For example, fastest could mean overclocking. Overclocking is dependent on your CPU; all CPUs come out of the factory differently - some can be overclocked to 1600MHz, some can't.
Or fastest could mean performing a particular task more quickly, or 'smoothness' (which is a stupid XDA Android fanboy fap off term). Which is subjective and impossible to get a handle on due to so many variables which determine any measure along these lines.
Getting the idea ?
What I'm hinting at, the only way you're going to find the answer to your question is to use a bunch of GB & ICS roms and make your own mind up. With CWM it's very easy to backup/restore & flash roms so it isn't difficult for you to do this.
I'm sure you'll get people who will post to this thread & seemingly give you the answers you're looking for. I'd advise you to ignore them. Because your experience with GB/ICS/a rom/a kernel will not be exactly the same as someone else.
please, not another one of these fail threads.
if you want to know the difference in features, read up on it on wikipedia or the google android site.
if you want to know, which one is faster and better for you, give them both a try and compare.
also, there is already a thread of a very similar name floating around the general section.
and may i remind you that there is a rule not to ask, which rom is the best?
i say GB is for GAMERS and ICS is for MODDERS just an opinion of mine
I flash to ICS once and couldnt stand its pack of stability and tweaks but it's been a long time ago so i guess it' much better now, I still stick to GB thought.
If you are not interested in fancy looks and are a simple user then GB is a perfect choice, stable.
If you want to have a modern look, new unique features then try ICS, but it's not stable now
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Hi,
I've met with Galaxy S2 after ICS released so I've never used GB roms. So far I've tried ParanoidDroid, D4ROM, Hydrog3n, Slim Rom, Litening Rom, Turkbey Rom and Resurrection Remix. I've fairly used them all and happy with Hydrog3n atm. My gf also bought S2 and complaining about battery life since I've never tried GB roms and don't have any technical knowladge to compare GB with ICS (I mean voltage and stuff) I ask you gentleman to recommand a rom for me. It doesn't matter if it's stock ICS or stock GB or some custom rom. I just want to get best battery life out of Galaxy S2. Since I think custom roms remove most of the unnecesery apps and stuff from stock's it has to last longer and since ICS is newer and as far as I've read from posts that the voltage values on paper are lower then GB ICS has to last longer than GB but somehow ICS consumes more battery. I just upgraded her phone to ICS stock with Siyah Kernel with battery profile but she is complaining to me that it was better before I'm very confused and couldn't decide on what to do.
Is it better to not root at all or return back to GB ? I just want to maximize the battery life.
Thanks in advance
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25164221
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No rom. Because there are far too many variables which determine battery life to say conclusively "Such and such rom/kernel is teh awesomz battery life man !"
Battery life depends on how you have the phone setup and how you use it. Any tweaks you might have made to kernel settings, and so on. There is no simple path to getting the best battery life possible from your phone, there are no quick fixes. It's a matter of experimenting with your phone setup & trying different roms/kernels until you find one that's good for you.
If that kind of thing doesn't enthuse you, as well as being in the wrong place, you might as well stick to stock tbh.
With all this in mind, IAmFrk was quite right to refer you to the forum policy of not asking for rom/kernel recommendations. There have been hundreds of these threads in the past, you should do a search & see what people recommended in those rather than start another thread.
No no you guys understood my q wrong. I'm asking if GB is better in terms of battery than ICS and not rooting the phone is a better option than rooting or not. I'm not asking any roms or kernels since I don't need any recommendation on that for myself since I've been trying diffrent roms and kernels in that matter. I just want technical information for the stuff as I mentioned above not rom or kernel. The difference between GB and ICS, stock phone and rooted phone. Does rooting a good thing or not ofc I've read tweak battery life related posts before asking mine but couldn't find any info comparing my needs.
And I'm asking this since I upgraded her phone and didn't do anything else she is using the same settings as she did in GB but her battery lasts less. That's why I'm questioning the GB and ICS, with the same settings which one will last longer ?
But it isn't as simple as 'GB is better in terms of battery than ICS'.
Some people on here (who help a lot of people in Q&A and whose opinions I really respect a lot) say GB is better, ICS is buggy & they've had crap battery life from the roms they've tried. For me, I get the best battery life I've ever had with CM9. Why ? Because I've put in the time/effort to tweak my setup to make it that way. My point is if you ask 100 people on XDA that question, you'll get different answers to the question depending on the person.
So far as rooting/not rooting concerned, again, nothing to do with battery life per se. What rooting does is give you control over your phone, and can (it can also enable you to make your battery life/phone performance a whole lot worse) enable you to run kernels (and tweak those kernels), and enable you to set your phone up to possibly give you better battery life .
Given it's your GF's phone & I presume you want it to work well 100% of the time with no glitches (because you'll probably end up playing tech support, which from experience I know is a pain in the arse), leave it on stock.
On the other hand if you like a challenge, I've given you plenty to think about in my two posts. Every bit of info you could possibly need to tweak your phone is on XDA. It's just a matter of searching, reading, learning & then using that info to make a setup that gives you what you want.
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No no you guys understood my q wrong. I'm asking if GB is better in terms of battery than ICS and not rooting the phone is a better option than rooting or not. I'm not asking any roms or kernels since I don't need any recommendation on that for myself since I've been trying diffrent roms and kernels in that matter. I just want technical information for the stuff as I mentioned above not rom or kernel. The difference between GB and ICS, stock phone and rooted phone. Does rooting a good thing or not ofc I've read tweak battery life related posts before asking mine but couldn't find any info comparing my needs.
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But it isn't as simple as 'GB is better in terms of battery than ICS'.
Some people on here (who help a lot of people in Q&A and whose opinions I really respect a lot) say GB is better, ICS is buggy & they've had crap battery life from the roms they've tried. For me, I get the best battery life I've ever had with CM9. Why ? Because I've put in the time/effort to tweak my setup to make it that way. My point is if you ask 100 people on XDA that question, you'll get different answers to the question depending on the person.
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I totally agree with you I'm very happy with my rom also coz I'm tweaking kernel and also manually disabling stuff by myself but It's not possible for me to do that to my gf coz I'll have to act as tech support and I'm always checking if there is anything on wake while the screen is off and act accordingly to it, I can't do this on her phone.
So as you mentioned I'm not asking this formyself nor asking a rom reccomendetion but as you said I think I'm gonna install stock GB and do the necessary settings for her and leave it.
Thanks for your replies much appreciated.
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Best ROM is the one that works best for you. There are too many variables. Try a few out and make your own decision.