Hi,
I've met with Galaxy S2 after ICS released so I've never used GB roms. So far I've tried ParanoidDroid, D4ROM, Hydrog3n, Slim Rom, Litening Rom, Turkbey Rom and Resurrection Remix. I've fairly used them all and happy with Hydrog3n atm. My gf also bought S2 and complaining about battery life since I've never tried GB roms and don't have any technical knowladge to compare GB with ICS (I mean voltage and stuff) I ask you gentleman to recommand a rom for me. It doesn't matter if it's stock ICS or stock GB or some custom rom. I just want to get best battery life out of Galaxy S2. Since I think custom roms remove most of the unnecesery apps and stuff from stock's it has to last longer and since ICS is newer and as far as I've read from posts that the voltage values on paper are lower then GB ICS has to last longer than GB but somehow ICS consumes more battery. I just upgraded her phone to ICS stock with Siyah Kernel with battery profile but she is complaining to me that it was better before I'm very confused and couldn't decide on what to do.
Is it better to not root at all or return back to GB ? I just want to maximize the battery life.
Thanks in advance
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25164221
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No rom. Because there are far too many variables which determine battery life to say conclusively "Such and such rom/kernel is teh awesomz battery life man !"
Battery life depends on how you have the phone setup and how you use it. Any tweaks you might have made to kernel settings, and so on. There is no simple path to getting the best battery life possible from your phone, there are no quick fixes. It's a matter of experimenting with your phone setup & trying different roms/kernels until you find one that's good for you.
If that kind of thing doesn't enthuse you, as well as being in the wrong place, you might as well stick to stock tbh.
With all this in mind, IAmFrk was quite right to refer you to the forum policy of not asking for rom/kernel recommendations. There have been hundreds of these threads in the past, you should do a search & see what people recommended in those rather than start another thread.
No no you guys understood my q wrong. I'm asking if GB is better in terms of battery than ICS and not rooting the phone is a better option than rooting or not. I'm not asking any roms or kernels since I don't need any recommendation on that for myself since I've been trying diffrent roms and kernels in that matter. I just want technical information for the stuff as I mentioned above not rom or kernel. The difference between GB and ICS, stock phone and rooted phone. Does rooting a good thing or not ofc I've read tweak battery life related posts before asking mine but couldn't find any info comparing my needs.
And I'm asking this since I upgraded her phone and didn't do anything else she is using the same settings as she did in GB but her battery lasts less. That's why I'm questioning the GB and ICS, with the same settings which one will last longer ?
But it isn't as simple as 'GB is better in terms of battery than ICS'.
Some people on here (who help a lot of people in Q&A and whose opinions I really respect a lot) say GB is better, ICS is buggy & they've had crap battery life from the roms they've tried. For me, I get the best battery life I've ever had with CM9. Why ? Because I've put in the time/effort to tweak my setup to make it that way. My point is if you ask 100 people on XDA that question, you'll get different answers to the question depending on the person.
So far as rooting/not rooting concerned, again, nothing to do with battery life per se. What rooting does is give you control over your phone, and can (it can also enable you to make your battery life/phone performance a whole lot worse) enable you to run kernels (and tweak those kernels), and enable you to set your phone up to possibly give you better battery life .
Given it's your GF's phone & I presume you want it to work well 100% of the time with no glitches (because you'll probably end up playing tech support, which from experience I know is a pain in the arse), leave it on stock.
On the other hand if you like a challenge, I've given you plenty to think about in my two posts. Every bit of info you could possibly need to tweak your phone is on XDA. It's just a matter of searching, reading, learning & then using that info to make a setup that gives you what you want.
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No no you guys understood my q wrong. I'm asking if GB is better in terms of battery than ICS and not rooting the phone is a better option than rooting or not. I'm not asking any roms or kernels since I don't need any recommendation on that for myself since I've been trying diffrent roms and kernels in that matter. I just want technical information for the stuff as I mentioned above not rom or kernel. The difference between GB and ICS, stock phone and rooted phone. Does rooting a good thing or not ofc I've read tweak battery life related posts before asking mine but couldn't find any info comparing my needs.
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But it isn't as simple as 'GB is better in terms of battery than ICS'.
Some people on here (who help a lot of people in Q&A and whose opinions I really respect a lot) say GB is better, ICS is buggy & they've had crap battery life from the roms they've tried. For me, I get the best battery life I've ever had with CM9. Why ? Because I've put in the time/effort to tweak my setup to make it that way. My point is if you ask 100 people on XDA that question, you'll get different answers to the question depending on the person.
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I totally agree with you I'm very happy with my rom also coz I'm tweaking kernel and also manually disabling stuff by myself but It's not possible for me to do that to my gf coz I'll have to act as tech support and I'm always checking if there is anything on wake while the screen is off and act accordingly to it, I can't do this on her phone.
So as you mentioned I'm not asking this formyself nor asking a rom reccomendetion but as you said I think I'm gonna install stock GB and do the necessary settings for her and leave it.
Thanks for your replies much appreciated.
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Best ROM is the one that works best for you. There are too many variables. Try a few out and make your own decision.
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DISCLAIMER: This thread contains NOOB questions!
Hi all,
First of all I guess most of you really dislike these kind of threads. But I am reading xda for 2 months now, searching all over the place for some answers. Probably read almost every guide etc. but I really can't get my head around this amount of information. So here I am with the age old question: Which rom should I install?
I ask this question here because of all the fora I visited xda seems the most knowledgeable.
So here is the situation. I was running Samsung 2.3.4 with launcher pro. But this was all a bit buggy and didn't feel right. So I was really glad to see the 2.3.5 update. I was still thinking this would contain gtalk video chat and ad hoc connection detection. But I was mistaken.
First I thought maybe install the most recent stock version. But as far as I can see this is also still 2.3.5 and doesn't include the previous mentioned features (correct me if I am wrong).
Currently I am this far as I probably "need" a custom wrong but the list seems endless and the one seems better than the other. And I feel a bit lost.
I looked at the following so far: Lite'ning; Oxygenrom; Cyanogen and Villainrom.
Lite'ning rom looks nice and fast but this much blue isn't good for the screen and I hear development is halted so probably not.
Villainrom, I can't find really good video's and I can't find that much info. So no for now.
Oxygenrom looks fast but I also not sure yet.
The best candidate seems to be Cyanogen right now.
So what am I looking for. Besides the two mentioned features above (gtalk video, ad hoc) I am not really sure if I am ready to unlock yet (but if it is necessary). Futhermore I am not really a fan of bugs either (duh) and I don't want to miss any features (FM radio for example). Oh and I am bit of a minimalist when it comes to looks. So that is secondary .
Hopefully I didn't bug you all to much and I am really looking forward to your opinions and experiences (good and bad). And I am still open for suggestions.
Carnelain
PS I haven't really found a "which sellers of jigs are safe" thread. Does anybody know or is it an idea to start one?
Wait for II1 firmware .
jje
If you have to ask these questions, Cyanogen isnt for you (experienced users only)
have a look in the android development forums (original & derivative) for a bigger choice, theres plenty out there.
Futhermore I am not really a fan of bugs either
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who is?
Sorry what exactly do you mean?
If you have to ask these questions, Cyanogen isnt for you (experienced users only
He means not for users who know little about flashing and roms ,Its the most difficult rom of them all .
You have read the posts but not understood them otherwise you would not be asking your question what rom .
You could go to one of the Rom Kitchens and build your own .
But in your shoes i would read the details on the latest custom roms what they have and whats missing .
Minimal look is stock or MIU .
PS I haven't really found a "which sellers of jigs are safe" thread. Does anybody know or is it an idea to start one?
Safe as in what ??? i dont see reports of unsafe jigs .
jje
I think OP's question is great, there's a lot of info on XDA but I can't find ONE stable/popular/regular thread discussing ROM vs ROM. The which ROM is best thread always pop up but then die after a couple of posts.
I think it would be great if users posted when they switch ROM commenting the switch, and if other users who tried more than 1 ROM posted their experience.
I'm a long time XDA user (Nexus One->Captivate->Nexus S->SGSII), have run a bunch of ROMs and read XDA EVERYDAY (multiple times lol) and read every post in LeoROM, Cognition, JKay and Siyah Threads but still I have the same question as the OP (was about to make a thread about it).
On my SGSII I've only run Cognition (since v1.0 to latest 1.5.1, gone through 2.3.3 and 2.3.4), also gone through all modems till latest KI4 and kernels (ninph, speedmod) till latest Siyah 1.8.
I've been thinking about switching ROM for some weeks now (want 2.3.5!) but couldn't decide, was about to convert to Leomar's ROM but then encountered other ROMs that look good and have a bunch of followers: Cristelko, DlevROM, TouchX Power, and now even more options!: Cyanogen stable out now and Cognition 2.3.5 announced coming soon. I hate being undecided!!! Was really decided on LeoROM, just about to switch, but now found all these other seemingly very good ROMs!
I'm a flash addict, love updating ROM, Modem & Kernel, but I HATE wiping! And I don't like to switch ROMs or update from 2.3.4 to 2.3.5 without wiping. So I want to decide what to flash!!! I'm not going to try all of them (I don't have the time and I hate wiping) so I have to rely on other's opinions, reading a lot (following the changelogs) and then make a definite decision!
So please guys, anybody who has tried more than 1 ROM, can you share your experiences?
To check out the most popuar roms, look at how big the discussion thread is (reply, views).
Also a suggestion can be the one to check "veterans" signature, usually this ppl use the most stable/bugless firmware.
For my personal choice im on Cyanogen but yes, thats not for beginners.
My 2nd choice is the "nandroidbackup" of my Black S2 (check my signature) a lot easier to install and beginners ready
Also Miui is a good choice (and dosnt look like the stock tw rom) but got BT/TV Out bug for now, so if you need a stable bt it's not the choice.
To end my 5 cents, i think it's better for you, try out 3-4 roms and pick the one you feel better with.
I think the choice is pretty individual, some ppl loves a rom that some other really hate and so.
Its very simple their is no best rom its users choice . Your preferred rom may be a themed rom i hate themes .
jje
batista is realy fast and stable and has a pretty fresh look. but i have some batt issues with one of my three SII it should be something else
leomar75's revolution is pretty good and highly themeable
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insanity ii has pretty good batt live but is too simple for my likes
I don't recommend you flashing CM7 since it's harder than flashing samsung firmware based ROMS. Unless you really want it and then well, it's not that hard anyway.
Anyway, if you have root installing gtalk with video is easy, you just need a root explorer app, I use FIle Expert becasue it's free. Just follow this guide step by step and you're done http://samsunggalaxys2blog.com/sams...1-3-with-video-calling-for-samsung-galaxy-s2/
If you want a custom ROM, maybe you could try checkROM www.checkrom.com since it has good support for themes and stuff. And it is updating and will update with each relevant firmware release. And flashing it is just simple. Well hope it helps.
For last, if you really want to go with CM7, I can say that it's the best ROM I've flashed. I just started with it a couple of days ago and you can feel the smoothness inmediatly which I never had in samsung firmware. Anyway there are some bugs, you loose samsung apps like polaris office which I used a lot, FM radio I think doesn't work for now, and the camera app is worse than the samsung one that comes with the phone. But for me at least it's worth it, the main funcionality is there, bluetooth, wifi, etc.... Well, if you decide to flash it please don't use ROM manager becasue it won't work. I can help you with the steps i did if you want, so pm me if you need it because I probably won't be looking at this thread again.
Good luck!
I have used CM6 for Sony Xperia X10i. But really what I want is something that is lightweight and good battery life. I usually always install Nemus Launcher and a horde of my fav. apps. I am not concern about the themes as I never use the default themes. What I want is the built in SIP for GB over 3G. Can someone recommend a ROM for me to use? I have already rooted my phone.
I'd suggest VillainRom. Its stock, fast, and has the best battery of all KI3 roms in my opinion. It all really depends on what kind of rom what you want!
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Just trying out the X-Power ROM ... so far so good...
Thanks spradling for backing up my thread. I must admit I was a bit scared of by the previous replies. Nevertheless been ploughing through more threads and finally gave up on finding an answer. I guess everybody tries at one point and hopes they don't have to start a %*(^& I think I bricked my phone thread.
So which one to try. Well the heck with it cyanogen has the best looking website if they build there rom the same way what could go wrong.
Well a lot let me tell ya. It was a very feverish night and I had to flash my phone for like 20 times before I got it right (see this thread).
Nevertheless it works and it works great. I can seed there are some bugs. For example I had a slow response when waking up the phone but after going back and forth between the minimum cpu (200 to 500 MHz) that was gone.
Gtalk + video works (yay!) but still no ad hoc connection. I did some customization and my phone looks and feels slick now. I haven't tried the fm radio but it probably will not work. And I am missing the touch to focus in the camera app but that can be replaced (stil looking any suggestions).
The only thing that really worries me is the battery life. It shortened drastically but it could be me mishandling the battery.
Nevertheless I a pretty pleased with myself and my phone.
Hopefully this helps somebody
Carnelain
PS thanks for the offer tomascunill but I figured it out
Carnelain said:
Thanks spradling for backing up my thread. I must admit I was a bit scared of by the previous replies. Nevertheless been ploughing through more threads and finally gave up on finding an answer. I guess everybody tries at one point and hopes they don't have to start a %*(^& I think I bricked my phone thread.
So which one to try. Well the heck with it cyanogen has the best looking website if they build there rom the same way what could go wrong.
Well a lot let me tell ya. It was a very feverish night and I had to flash my phone for like 20 times before I got it right (see this thread).
Nevertheless it works and it works great. I can seed there are some bugs. For example I had a slow response when waking up the phone but after going back and forth between the minimum cpu (200 to 500 MHz) that was gone.
Gtalk + video works (yay!) but still no ad hoc connection. I did some customization and my phone looks and feels slick now. I haven't tried the fm radio but it probably will not work. And I am missing the touch to focus in the camera app but that can be replaced (stil looking any suggestions).
The only thing that really worries me is the battery life. It shortened drastically but it could be me mishandling the battery.
Nevertheless I a pretty pleased with myself and my phone.
Hopefully this helps somebody
Carnelain
PS thanks for the offer tomascunill but I figured it out
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There's an lgCamera app in the market which I found better than the one that comes in CM7, you could try it and see if it works best for you. As for battery life, it seems to be better in the latest nightlies (the latest beeing 87). IF you're in stable version I HIGHLY suggest you to move to the latest nightly since there are lots of thing fixed that in "stable" version are not working right.
Thanks for the advice tomascunill. I tried the camera app and although it has the touch to focus feature I am not really blown away by it. Probably because of the lack of image stabilisation. But I'll find something that suits.
Futhermore I updated to the latest nightly. I wonder what issues are resolved. Does anybody know where to find the change logs? And I was wondering about another thing I installed the stable version because I expected it to be, well..., stable. But a better question might be how unstable are nightly's?
Must say I still like my phone but now the galaxy nexus (I liked nexus prime better) is out I feel like I jumped the gun. Well lets wait and see what cyanogen will do with ICS or what ICS stock looks like.
The best ROM is the one you choose. U need to test many rom to have your own opinion.
My favorite is LeoMar 2.7.1
I prefer stock ROM i mean without too much modifications.
LeoMar is a "stock" ROM that you can easily personnalised.
I use :
SpeedMod [Kernel]
Fly in [Animation]
And some mods.
This rom provides me the best battery life.
you could always flash a odex 2.3.5 ROM - would be mostly stock, have all the sammy apps/widgets etc etc. flash a kernel like siyah2.0 or latest speedmod - you can tweak a little bit, not stray too far from stock, and get better battery life with a custom kernel.
Everyone else here is right - CM7 is nothing like touchwiz and would be a big "leap" away from sammy/TW style interface
- x-power with siyah2.0 is a good combo!
aussois said:
you could always flash a odex 2.3.5 ROM - would be mostly stock, have all the sammy apps/widgets etc etc. flash a kernel like siyah2.0 or latest speedmod - you can tweak a little bit, not stray too far from stock, and get better battery life with a custom kernel.
Everyone else here is right - CM7 is nothing like touchwiz and would be a big "leap" away from sammy/TW style interface
- x-power with siyah2.0 is a good combo!
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Don't get me wrong but I want to get as far away from touchwiz as possible. I probably have the term stock confused. I always thought it meant just android.
Best ROM threads are subjective.....
Best thing to do is take your time to read ROM threads and make a backup of ROM using then flash away find what ROM/Radio suits you best.
On that note thread closed.
I was just curious to what are some of the better battery saving roms out their. I have a samsung galaxay s 2 i777 and after the dreadful 2.3.6 update my phones battery dies before the end of the day (thats if i dont use it) and withing 12 hours if i use it through the day. Im looking for a flashy rom that does not take up to much battery life anything better than this 2.3.6 att update would be great. So what is your favorite battery saving rom, and why?
sorry, but this thread is going to die...
why's that, this is a general question after all.
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why's that, this is a general question after all.
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Understood...
Unfortunately, the mods don't like people getting into spitting matches over which ROM is better. Typically they will spiral out of control.
Your best bet is to just peruse the forums and try multiple ROMs and find what is best for you.
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I was just curious to what are some of the better battery saving roms out their. I have a samsung galaxay s 2 i777 and after the dreadful 2.3.6 update my phones battery dies before the end of the day (thats if i dont use it) and withing 12 hours if i use it through the day. Im looking for a flashy rom that does not take up to much battery life anything better than this 2.3.6 att update would be great. So what is your favorite battery saving rom, and why?
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ROMs are like girlfriends, you can pick the good looking one, but that does not mean that she wont nag. Younger is not always better.
I have been in a quest for this very thing and I can tell you that so much depends on your usage patterns, applications you install, and other stuff, that there is no perfect solutions.
Given where you are, I would go to this thread and read as much as you can. Probably the single best place to learn how to figure out the root cause and the strength/weakness of a ROM base:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1308030
So to answer you with my personal view is that:
- I cannot use the Hellraised ROMs due to my requirement to have password
- Many have had good experience with Hellraised ROMs, so if you do not have that restriction (PIN or PW), I would try that
- So from the i777 base, the best battery life for me came from UnNamed 1.3.2 with DD kernel. I still have significant battery problems, but that gives me the best
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ROMs are like girlfriends, you can pick the good looking one, but that does not mean that she wont nag. Younger is not always better.
I have been in a quest for this very thing and I can tell you that so much depends on your usage patterns, applications you install, and other stuff, that there is no perfect solutions.
Given where you are, I would go to this thread and read as much as you can. Probably the single best place to learn how to figure out the root cause and the strength/weakness of a ROM base:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1308030
So to answer you with my personal view is that:
- I cannot use the Hellraised ROMs due to my requirement to have password
- Many have had good experience with Hellraised ROMs, so if you do not have that restriction (PIN or PW), I would try that
- So from the i777 base, the best battery life for me came from UnNamed 1.3.2 with DD kernel. I still have significant battery problems, but that gives me the best
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Well said concurred
jhermit said:
ROMs are like girlfriends, you can pick the good looking one, but that does not mean that she wont nag. Younger is not always better.
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Best simile ever!
Ya, these threads dont usually produce good wholesome conversations... it usually turns into a popularity contest and different Devs dont like to see that.
However, for battery saving, there is a good thread going on here with awesome data.
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Hi, so currently I am running baseband version: S5830XXKPP with IceCream Sunday 2.
I was wondering if there was a newer and/or better baseband version out there and also is there any better firmware than ICS2 ?
The reason being is that currently I find my phone to be running quite laggy (Ive been using this setup for a while now) and the battery drain is pretty bad, along with wake up lag etc.
Help would be appreciated, thanks.
I've used ICSunday 2 before. It was the fastest ROM of its time. But that was almost half a year ago. Find a newer ROM from the Devel section (don't forget to thank the devs) that suits your needs.
As for the battery drain, it's a common problem for the Galaxy Ace. Try only using 2G networks; it's not fast, but your phone can last as much as 70% more.
And the wake up lag is also a problem for most users. The last time I used my Ace before I sold it was around 1 month ago (was running ICS Final with some tweaks) and the wake lock delay was still around.
I can't say for now, though.
One more thread asking for the best.
Mod please delete this thread right away.
TeamCooper Developer
There's nothing wrong about asking which one seems the best ROM. I appreciate the work of the developers around here, but they're not gods. And if they or you cannot take criticism, then you're in the wrong place, buddy. I don't mean to start a flame war but it's my two cents. There are roms for everything and there are roms who are significantly good at something in particular, such as battery life and whatnot. They all claim to be the best ever when we know there are roms out there that feel incomplete, that they lack final polishes and that the instructions and the feedback are handled in a poor way. So, let's be honest here: THERE'S NOTHING WRONG ABOUT ASKING THAT. DEAL WITH IT.
Absolutely agree. There are definitely going to be some roms which are superior to the other roms and there is no wrong in asking for there names and answering these questions.
I don't mean no offence to any dev, and i know they don't ask us to pay for there Roms or something but seriously, Devs are not crybabies who can't take criticism. If your Rom isn't the best, there is a reason for it. I am sure most of the devs here are grown up and can take positive criticism and improve on it.
Again, no offence to anyone. Just my personal opinion.
Can someone tell me which is better interms of battery life and usability? I am always curious about it. I think CM9 is more light weight... is that correct?
Whichever one makes you use your phone less.
I can't think of any sensible way to measure usability.
You wont get an answer to this question sorry as these types of questions are not allowed. Look HERE
I think the answer would be CM9 by default - any custom rom would surely be better than stock if for one reason alone - no (or alot less) bloatware!
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It all depends on how you use your phone. There won't be any other way to figure this out than to just try them both for a couple days and see what worked best for you.
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Before to make this a debate. I must say that this is all my personal opinions.
I wish you all to know that I have probably flashed all kinds of roms, SEEKING to find some kind of PERFECT rom, but you all know that we as humans will never get and accept something that is perfect, as perfect. (just love be4 she dumps you xD)
So continuing with this thread, I wish to share my experiences with you ALL <3 and hopefully answer all of your questions.
Stock CM9 KERNEL/ROM
Pros: The best one i have tried with almost never changing Battery life, I love it and always return to this bad guy after a bunch of roms with bad battery life. You must get this!
Cons: Little to none customization when it comes to governors.
Siyah x
Pros: considered as the best kernel for almost 78% of the XDA(not really, hehe), they like this because of the multiple governors and for being one of the best kernels with cero problems, always updating. Apart from it, it also supports 2nd rom in recovery, so its perfect.
Cons: as all other kernels, in order to get best battery life, you need to tweak them, change voltages, and it takes time, without changing anything from this kernel, the battery life goes to 90% from 100% with only 4 minutes.
Other kernels
Pros: you get to try new kernels...Woohooo!!!
Cons:just not as good as siyah kernels without customizing them.
So I hope you find this as a little entertainment for both, me and you, with love, bye!....
Seriously, what's the meaning of this thread?
How about a new comparison?
This thread VS this comment
This thread
PROS -
•Something to pass my time
•Keeps a mod busy when they come along and close it
CONS -
•Threads of this kind aren't allowed on XDA because a simple debate can easily get out of hand
•It's a pointless thread and wastes peoples time
This comment
PROS -
•It passes time
•It's kinda funny
•Makes me seem like an arse
CONS -
•None
I'm a product of the system I was born to destroy!
awww
Jokesy said:
Seriously, what's the meaning of this thread?
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It really was a nice topic... just letting people know how wonderful stock cm9 is.
Sorry if it didnt make any sense for you :/
Well I like rootbox with fluxi kernel.
Pros-I like it,nothing else matters
Cons-None
Lol
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Ahhh... I dont have anything to say... But debate usually results in a fight...
Peace
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