Before to make this a debate. I must say that this is all my personal opinions.
I wish you all to know that I have probably flashed all kinds of roms, SEEKING to find some kind of PERFECT rom, but you all know that we as humans will never get and accept something that is perfect, as perfect. (just love be4 she dumps you xD)
So continuing with this thread, I wish to share my experiences with you ALL <3 and hopefully answer all of your questions.
Stock CM9 KERNEL/ROM
Pros: The best one i have tried with almost never changing Battery life, I love it and always return to this bad guy after a bunch of roms with bad battery life. You must get this!
Cons: Little to none customization when it comes to governors.
Siyah x
Pros: considered as the best kernel for almost 78% of the XDA(not really, hehe), they like this because of the multiple governors and for being one of the best kernels with cero problems, always updating. Apart from it, it also supports 2nd rom in recovery, so its perfect.
Cons: as all other kernels, in order to get best battery life, you need to tweak them, change voltages, and it takes time, without changing anything from this kernel, the battery life goes to 90% from 100% with only 4 minutes.
Other kernels
Pros: you get to try new kernels...Woohooo!!!
Cons:just not as good as siyah kernels without customizing them.
So I hope you find this as a little entertainment for both, me and you, with love, bye!....
Seriously, what's the meaning of this thread?
How about a new comparison?
This thread VS this comment
This thread
PROS -
•Something to pass my time
•Keeps a mod busy when they come along and close it
CONS -
•Threads of this kind aren't allowed on XDA because a simple debate can easily get out of hand
•It's a pointless thread and wastes peoples time
This comment
PROS -
•It passes time
•It's kinda funny
•Makes me seem like an arse
CONS -
•None
I'm a product of the system I was born to destroy!
awww
Jokesy said:
Seriously, what's the meaning of this thread?
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It really was a nice topic... just letting people know how wonderful stock cm9 is.
Sorry if it didnt make any sense for you :/
Well I like rootbox with fluxi kernel.
Pros-I like it,nothing else matters
Cons-None
Lol
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Ahhh... I dont have anything to say... But debate usually results in a fight...
Peace
Hit Thanks & It will Disappear
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I made this post to see wat people think which is best rom and wat is wrong wid some roms have tried every rom out there and iam here to help wid any problems people have IAM NOT A DEVELOPER so i dont no everything but i can help wid stuff that i fixed myself
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Stock, hands down. Everything works with no fuss.
In the long run, though, I would say Cyanogenmod will be the best, when Samsung moves on to support newer phones, and "forgets" about SG2...
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Stock, hands down. Everything works with no fuss.
In the long run, though, I would say Cyanogenmod will be the best, when Samsung moves on to support newer phones, and "forgets" about SG2...
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I agree but u can custom your self to get the faster stock cyanogenmod will be good but apart from stock i would use lighting 3.1 its great iam useing it now
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You can't be serious asking this question!
It's a personal matter.
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You can't be serious asking this question!
It's a personal matter.
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This is true. However, deep inside I really wish to ask that as I tried so many and so hard to decide.
Here's a quick breakdown
Cognition
- smooth
- why I dislike: The feel of the UI (self preference)
Litening 4.1
- GREAT
- really fast in speed
- why I dislike: been too long see-ing blue colour
VillianROM
- GREAT
- smooth UI, fun to play, many tweaks according to your liking
- why I dislike: seeing too much green robot is boring (if you get what I mean)
Exynos Extreme
- current favourite
- very smooth, like the part where the author actually remove unwanted apps for us
- downside: 3.4 is a little buggy (can't copy and paste), 3.3 is smooth and GREAT
Generally, Litening 4.1 give good battery life. Exynos too but I am using Exynos with SpeedMOD so a little different here.
There you go
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You can't be serious asking this question!
It's a personal matter.
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It's a fair question but prbably should have asked which ROM people prefer. I hate it when people get flamed for asking which ROM people like best. Some of us don't have the time to download every ROM out there and just want to hear others' opinions..
Keep the opinions coming - I want to be tempted away from stock!
Exynos. best ive used so far
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1153826
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Exynos. best ive used so far
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1153826
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I got to agree. Some reason, it felt unique compared to Litening and the rest. Not sure why though.
The best ROM is subjective and will probably change within a week of this question been asked.
Thread closed, not related to development.
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IAM NOT A DEVELOPER
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So don't post it in development then...
I was just curious to what are some of the better battery saving roms out their. I have a samsung galaxay s 2 i777 and after the dreadful 2.3.6 update my phones battery dies before the end of the day (thats if i dont use it) and withing 12 hours if i use it through the day. Im looking for a flashy rom that does not take up to much battery life anything better than this 2.3.6 att update would be great. So what is your favorite battery saving rom, and why?
sorry, but this thread is going to die...
why's that, this is a general question after all.
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why's that, this is a general question after all.
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Understood...
Unfortunately, the mods don't like people getting into spitting matches over which ROM is better. Typically they will spiral out of control.
Your best bet is to just peruse the forums and try multiple ROMs and find what is best for you.
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I was just curious to what are some of the better battery saving roms out their. I have a samsung galaxay s 2 i777 and after the dreadful 2.3.6 update my phones battery dies before the end of the day (thats if i dont use it) and withing 12 hours if i use it through the day. Im looking for a flashy rom that does not take up to much battery life anything better than this 2.3.6 att update would be great. So what is your favorite battery saving rom, and why?
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ROMs are like girlfriends, you can pick the good looking one, but that does not mean that she wont nag. Younger is not always better.
I have been in a quest for this very thing and I can tell you that so much depends on your usage patterns, applications you install, and other stuff, that there is no perfect solutions.
Given where you are, I would go to this thread and read as much as you can. Probably the single best place to learn how to figure out the root cause and the strength/weakness of a ROM base:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1308030
So to answer you with my personal view is that:
- I cannot use the Hellraised ROMs due to my requirement to have password
- Many have had good experience with Hellraised ROMs, so if you do not have that restriction (PIN or PW), I would try that
- So from the i777 base, the best battery life for me came from UnNamed 1.3.2 with DD kernel. I still have significant battery problems, but that gives me the best
jhermit said:
ROMs are like girlfriends, you can pick the good looking one, but that does not mean that she wont nag. Younger is not always better.
I have been in a quest for this very thing and I can tell you that so much depends on your usage patterns, applications you install, and other stuff, that there is no perfect solutions.
Given where you are, I would go to this thread and read as much as you can. Probably the single best place to learn how to figure out the root cause and the strength/weakness of a ROM base:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1308030
So to answer you with my personal view is that:
- I cannot use the Hellraised ROMs due to my requirement to have password
- Many have had good experience with Hellraised ROMs, so if you do not have that restriction (PIN or PW), I would try that
- So from the i777 base, the best battery life for me came from UnNamed 1.3.2 with DD kernel. I still have significant battery problems, but that gives me the best
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+1
Well said concurred
jhermit said:
ROMs are like girlfriends, you can pick the good looking one, but that does not mean that she wont nag. Younger is not always better.
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Best simile ever!
Ya, these threads dont usually produce good wholesome conversations... it usually turns into a popularity contest and different Devs dont like to see that.
However, for battery saving, there is a good thread going on here with awesome data.
Thread closed.
Hi, so currently I am running baseband version: S5830XXKPP with IceCream Sunday 2.
I was wondering if there was a newer and/or better baseband version out there and also is there any better firmware than ICS2 ?
The reason being is that currently I find my phone to be running quite laggy (Ive been using this setup for a while now) and the battery drain is pretty bad, along with wake up lag etc.
Help would be appreciated, thanks.
I've used ICSunday 2 before. It was the fastest ROM of its time. But that was almost half a year ago. Find a newer ROM from the Devel section (don't forget to thank the devs) that suits your needs.
As for the battery drain, it's a common problem for the Galaxy Ace. Try only using 2G networks; it's not fast, but your phone can last as much as 70% more.
And the wake up lag is also a problem for most users. The last time I used my Ace before I sold it was around 1 month ago (was running ICS Final with some tweaks) and the wake lock delay was still around.
I can't say for now, though.
One more thread asking for the best.
Mod please delete this thread right away.
TeamCooper Developer
There's nothing wrong about asking which one seems the best ROM. I appreciate the work of the developers around here, but they're not gods. And if they or you cannot take criticism, then you're in the wrong place, buddy. I don't mean to start a flame war but it's my two cents. There are roms for everything and there are roms who are significantly good at something in particular, such as battery life and whatnot. They all claim to be the best ever when we know there are roms out there that feel incomplete, that they lack final polishes and that the instructions and the feedback are handled in a poor way. So, let's be honest here: THERE'S NOTHING WRONG ABOUT ASKING THAT. DEAL WITH IT.
Absolutely agree. There are definitely going to be some roms which are superior to the other roms and there is no wrong in asking for there names and answering these questions.
I don't mean no offence to any dev, and i know they don't ask us to pay for there Roms or something but seriously, Devs are not crybabies who can't take criticism. If your Rom isn't the best, there is a reason for it. I am sure most of the devs here are grown up and can take positive criticism and improve on it.
Again, no offence to anyone. Just my personal opinion.
Hello everyone.
I am running Pure ICS 7.2 Rom and like it very much.
Now i'm in need of finding the most suitable kernel that does not differ alot from stock kernel.
It does not need alot of functionality.
I just want it to be very stable, fast and light..
So no need for 100 of features im not going to need anyways.
The only feature I currently need is the BLN mod.
All the kernels support this, but in the mean time they support 100 of other things, which leads me to the conclusion, the kernel becomes bloated.
Can someone recommend me the most lightweight/fast/stable kernel.
May i remind you, I dont need overclock,underclock,governors,scheudlers etc etc.. I just want to leave it as is!!!!
NEAK kernel says
"The lightest kernel for I9100 ever made!!"
But I find that hard to believe if one looks at the feature list.. It is HUGE!!!!
Thanks in advance
Try neak,its fast and light.im currently using it
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neak is good but give a try to siyah too all depends the way u use it an ull get ur results as which kernel is good for u.no one will tell tht a perticular kernel is the no 1...we all experiment an thts the way it is......cheeerz
Tried a few liking Neat Rom stock and rooted and if you want the ICS look just add ICS Domination 4.1
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Tried a few liking Neat Rom stock and rooted and if you want the ICS look just add ICS Domination 4.1
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please read before posting - or try understand the difference between a kernel and rom...
@op the only way to find out is test them yourself - recommended with BLN, would be neak or siyah obviously
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Please guys be more precise and read the first post again!!!
I know I can just try different kernels as the first few posts suggest.
But c'mon guys why reinvent the wheel with kernels as well?
I know its a good idea to try different ROMS, and I give the same advice to others, and I have already tried my share of ROMS.
But its just plain stupid doing the same with kernels as well.
In the siyah forum post, some people complain about random restarts etc. The kernel motto is "One kernel to rule them all"..
I DONT NEED SO POWERFULL KERNEL!
I dont need 100 features, 100 governors, support for CM9 and all its functionality etc. etc.. I just want to install and go.
Dont want to play around with scheudlers, governors, OC/UC etc. etc..
You guys catch my drift?
I have very specific demands which I stated in the first post.
I didn't just ask "Which kernel should I use..."
Therefore please only post something, if you have something usefull to say. Not just try NEAK kernel! And why exactly should i try NEAK kernel?
In that forum, people complain about lagging issues etc..
I DONT NEED THAT!
I need a kernel I can flash and forget! Dont want to visit XDA every 2 days to check for updates to the kernel!
Exactly like stock kernels and ROMS. They are only updated maybe once every 6 months or so, because they are stable, and dont crash too often!
I need to have the same experience with the kernel!
well mate, to be honest with ya ICS kernels still obviously aren't 100% stable as sources have only been released for a short period... it obviously sounds like you want a stock Kernel or a kernel similar to SpeedMod, but guess what? they don't have BLN which you stated you wanted. Both Neak and siyah do, and are decent choices, some people prefer one over the other, there is no one better choice, definitely at this current stage in ICS development - so choose one this is why people are saying test one and see for yourself; otherwise move back to gb if you really need BLN and complete stability.
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Thanks man for your honest post
Coming from HTC Desire, I was kind of shocked Samsung omitted the notification led ( why o'why would they do that )
And off course all the reviews of SGS2 were praising the phone so much, they didn't state the obvious con of not including this led
Why don't you stay with the cf root kernel until the other kernels get a stable version?
mcmanuf said:
Thanks man for your honest post
Coming from HTC Desire, I was kind of shocked Samsung omitted the notification led ( why o'why would they do that )
And off course all the reviews of SGS2 were praising the phone so much, they didn't state the obvious con of not including this led
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I know what you mean! I had a galaxy s2, however was stolen and found a HTC Desire cheap, so used that for a while, loved the led notification light! However couldn't overlook the fact of the speed of the galaxy s2 and finding one cheap shortly after (thanks ebay!), I reverted back to the s2; one thing its missing is the led, for sure! Though while we do have BLN, it does affect the battery life so isn't really ideal. Though back on topic, if we wait a month I believe we will have stable, fast kernels (whilst also having BLN of course ) , which will shred gb and the custom kernels we had for that.
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Hey All,
First, and most importantly, I would like to say hello and THANKS to all of the people on this forum and devs who put together and support CFW's. You all do great jobs, and should be proud of your work.
Second, I have not posted here before since my questions were always answered with a search of the forums. This time it is not the case as I will explain.
I have a Galaxy note from Bell and I think it is an awesome piece of hardware (so much so I also bought a Note 10.1). I was quite happy with it for a long time but my patience for touchwiz eventually wore thin. Turning on the phone to make a call or text and having to wait while the phone finishes some phantom background task was incredibly annoying. Why does Samsung make great hardware and then ruin it with bloatware and junk?
This led me to to find a CFW which did not have this issue. I tried several and was blown away by the quality and completeness of these roms. They solved so many problems and did things the way the should have been done in the first place. I was in heaven. There was just one problem...stability. None of them slowed to a crawl and were always blisteringly fast, but the phone would lock up and reboot once every day or 2. This was not acceptable for a phone which is needed for work and emergencies. I would assume that the small number of these phones makes it less likely for the roms to be tested with them to the same extent as for a Note 2 or S3. I have even tried touchwiz-based roms which do not crash, but have the same occasional unresponsiveness of the samsung original.
So here is my question: has anyone found a rom which is STABLE in a real way? When I search I see people who say roms are stable but they never qualify their opinion with crash frequency so it remains a purely relative term. I love this phone and would really love to have a rom like PAC with all of its awesomeness but stability is king for me.
Here is what I have tried, full wipes done before each flash:
Cyanogenmod 10.0, 10.1
PAC rom
Padawan
Blackstar Blackjelly, 2 different versions
Thanks.
Jellybean Sandwich is really fantastic. It's based on ICS, so if you require Jellybean specific features it might not be for you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2356408
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How would one "qualify" their opinion with "crash frequency" if the rom they are using doesn't crash? There are many more roms than the ones you have listed.
Also, it has been my exprience that the 4.3 roms are very stable.
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I also second Jellybean sandwhich. It's great for stability, and since you would like to know to what extent I mean "stable" then this is what I mean...this ROM has NEVER crashed or rebooted on me, and for countless other users. It is an ICS based rom, with added jellybean features. It's a lightweight ROM, with not as many features as say AOKP, but many of those features can be added with "Xposed Mod" if you've ever used it. So you get the "speed" of jellybean, with the absolute stability of ICS. I highly recommend you try it out. People who have had trouble with the ROM (there are very few) have all induced the problems on their own, or probably have faulty hardware. I can vouch that if you wipe clean, and flash correctly everything will work right out of the box, except USB mount (which there is a fix to make it work), and a bug that gives you and "sd card damaged" notification when nothing is really wrong.
EDIT: If you want a fast touchwiz based ROM that is not necessarily Jellybean. I recommend Novena ROM. It's an older ROM but one of the fastest ROMs you can get for our phone. You may have to look on the second page in the development section as it hasn't been updated in months
Go to an ICS rom if you want speed and stability. No matter what anyone on these forums will say, you cannot, cannot, cannot find speed and stability in ANY jb rom. Some may have stability, but lack speed. If you just use them [jb roms] for a while, you can forget that they aren't fast and become accustomed to them, but if you touch an ICS ROM or a newer galaxy phone, you'll quickly be reminded that you're delusional.
both Touchwiz Rom's are stable. they are rocks and will not give you a random reboot. if you have read like you said, than you may have even seen one of several postings in the Padawan tread. if you haven't.......p355-378 is a good read and will lay out some solid fundamental settings which would lead you to nirvana.
many also seem to overlook one 4.2 rom, as even I did for the longest time. Sons of Android or SOA is the ONLY 4.2 rom out there that I got no randoms with and did not need to seek an alternate kernel.
those are just 2 roms. everyone will tell you, every phone is a bit different. finding a rom that is going to satisfy everyone the same. its like voting for a President now and days. you don't really vote for the one you want anymore, its voting for the lesser of two evils. everybody knows, you cant have good without evil.
you are getting some good personal opinions here. it sounds like you know what your looking for, but you have yet to decide as to what you are willing to tolerate. we all tolerate something for the rom that we want. what evil are you willing to tolerate? only you can answer
me........stability is what I seek, and lack of some bells and whistles is what I tolerate. as mentioned previously, I get some of that back with Xposed and keep my stability.
good luck my friend
Honestly, I'm using a stock deodexed/debloated ROM. Works just fine for me.
SkeletonKey, Padawan, JellyBeer, Prophylactic are all also great ones that I personally used a lot.
Your mileage may vary though.
captemo said:
both Touchwiz Rom's are stable. they are rocks and will not give you a random reboot. if you have read like you said, than you may have even seen one of several postings in the Padawan tread. if you haven't.......p355-378 is a good read and will lay out some solid fundamental settings which would lead you to nirvana.
many also seem to overlook one 4.2 rom, as even I did for the longest time. Sons of Android or SOA is the ONLY 4.2 rom out there that I got no randoms with and did not need to seek an alternate kernel.
those are just 2 roms. everyone will tell you, every phone is a bit different. finding a rom that is going to satisfy everyone the same. its like voting for a President now and days. you don't really vote for the one you want anymore, its voting for the lesser of two evils. everybody knows, you cant have good without evil.
you are getting some good personal opinions here. it sounds like you know what your looking for, but you have yet to decide as to what you are willing to tolerate. we all tolerate something for the rom that we want. what evil are you willing to tolerate? only you can answer
me........stability is what I seek, and lack of some bells and whistles is what I tolerate. as mentioned previously, I get some of that back with Xposed and keep my stability.
good luck my friend
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You know Cap, speaking of Sons of Android, you wouldn't happen to have that zip would you? that may be one of the only ROMs I don't seem to have on my computer. would love to give it a reflash.
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You know Cap, speaking of Sons of Android, you wouldn't happen to have that zip would you? that may be one of the only ROMs I don't seem to have on my computer. would love to give it a reflash.
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PM sent my friend
I've been on Revolt for 2 weeks and no crashes. The only 'bug' is that sometimes when you press PWR to activate the phone, the capacitive buttons highlight but the screen stays blank. Press PWR twice (once to turn 'off' and again to turn back on) and you'll see the lock screen.
I was playing with the tweaks a lot, so this 'bug' could just be from something I did. Other than that it's blistering fast compared to Bell stock (yes, I'm on Bell too and feel your pain) and I'd recommend it to anyone.
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Could you also send that to me please and thank you?
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Canguy247 said:
Hey All,
First, and most importantly, I would like to say hello and THANKS to all of the people on this forum and devs who put together and support CFW's. You all do great jobs, and should be proud of your work.
Second, I have not posted here before since my questions were always answered with a search of the forums. This time it is not the case as I will explain.
I have a Galaxy note from Bell and I think it is an awesome piece of hardware (so much so I also bought a Note 10.1). I was quite happy with it for a long time but my patience for touchwiz eventually wore thin. Turning on the phone to make a call or text and having to wait while the phone finishes some phantom background task was incredibly annoying. Why does Samsung make great hardware and then ruin it with bloatware and junk?
This led me to to find a CFW which did not have this issue. I tried several and was blown away by the quality and completeness of these roms. They solved so many problems and did things the way the should have been done in the first place. I was in heaven. There was just one problem...stability. None of them slowed to a crawl and were always blisteringly fast, but the phone would lock up and reboot once every day or 2. This was not acceptable for a phone which is needed for work and emergencies. I would assume that the small number of these phones makes it less likely for the roms to be tested with them to the same extent as for a Note 2 or S3. I have even tried touchwiz-based roms which do not crash, but have the same occasional unresponsiveness of the samsung original.
So here is my question: has anyone found a rom which is STABLE in a real way? When I search I see people who say roms are stable but they never qualify their opinion with crash frequency so it remains a purely relative term. I love this phone and would really love to have a rom like PAC with all of its awesomeness but stability is king for me.
Here is what I have tried, full wipes done before each flash:
Cyanogenmod 10.0, 10.1
PAC rom
Padawan
Blackstar Blackjelly, 2 different versions
Thanks.
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Revolt is really good for me , you should this one
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Isn't soa in the development section?
2$HAYNE
shayneflashindaily said:
Isn't soa in the development section?
2$HAYNE
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nah. All of Pt's links are down.
ZacksBuilds said:
Could you also send that to me please and thank you?
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pm sent
Thanks man.
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The current beanstalk is smooth and stable.
There is also a new 4.3 ROM in the Q&A section that has been extremely stable on my phone the past two days. The kernel built into the ROM is a version I beleive of the Cl3Kener kernel and can be OC'd and what not. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2448069
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nah. All of Pt's links are down.
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thanks bro
Really now said:
There is also a new 4.3 ROM in the Q&A section that has been extremely stable on my phone the past two days. The kernel built into the ROM is a version I beleive of the Cl3Kener kernel and can be OC'd and what not. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2448069
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Wasn't so stable on my part....But everyone's phone works in misterous wayssssss
2$HAYNE
I'm going to flash helly right now.
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