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Using bluetooth to play audio from Pandora sounds terrible. Lots of static, studdering, skipping, cut outs.
If i use a stereo cable it sounds great, so that rules out software.
My atrix sounded gorgeous over blue tooth, so that rules out the equipment.
Anyone else have any sound quality issues with the bluetooth?
No issue so far, use for about 4 hours a day for conference calls and then pandora/slacker or doubletwist for 2-3 hours more. Using Samsung sbh600 bluetooth.
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I use A2DP stereo streaming to two different devices (car and supertooth disco) and it sound excellent! Much better than my old evo and just as good as the nexus S I had for a while.
If you are using wifi for the connection to Pandora, try switching to 3G or 4G. Wifi and bluetooth can interfere with each other as they use the same frequency. I haven't had any issues, but have seen it before with other devices.
azwildfire said:
Question,
Using bluetooth to play audio from Pandora sounds terrible. Lots of static, studdering, skipping, cut outs.
If i use a stereo cable it sounds great, so that rules out software.
My atrix sounded gorgeous over blue tooth, so that rules out the equipment.
Anyone else have any sound quality issues with the bluetooth?
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I noticed the same thing today streaming to my kenwood unit. My droid X had flawless sound, this was exactly as you described. Any fix yet?
One thing I noticed, my X had a check box for an enhanced bluetooth audio quality....not sure if that made a difference or not.
Been using the phone in my car with my alpine deck without issue. I have the add-on bluetooth from alpine and it works really good with the phone. Randomly the music cuts out for a second but my old blackberry did the same thing, and so did my iPod Touch (2nd gen).
Shutting off the wifi on the phone isn't a bad idea... might give that a shot to see if that helps your issue? My blackberry would randomly distort the music. I would close pandora and do a battery pull then it would usually be back to "normal".
I have the same issue with my Clarion deck. Of course...I've somewhat convinced myself the speakers are a bit blown...but it's worse on BT than wired. From what I've been able to read there is a "bitpool" setting which controls the quality, and by default it's pretty low in the 30's, while it can go up to the 50's and the sound quality is noticeably different. CM fixes this from what I've read, but that's all. Apparently Blackberry has a higher setting by default, and each manufacturer can set their's different.
I'm hoping that a combination of new speakers and CM7 will remedy my issue.
interesting I've got a pioneer premier DEH-P710BT
and it sounds amazing
maybe look for a firmware update for your receiver?
DigitalSileR said:
interesting I've got a pioneer premier DEH-P710BT
and it sounds amazing
maybe look for a firmware update for your receiver?
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mine is updated to their most current firmware. I'm more inclined to think it's a bad bluetooth stack like weiln12 mentions above. gonna try it out with my friends thunderbolt tonight and see if it is the same.
I also have a clarion deck and find the bluetooth audio quality to be horrific. I find it hard to believe that it's the head unit at fault since my old Droid1 sounded perfectly fine.
Is anyone aware of any roms or kernels that have a higher bitpool setting?
I haven't found any yet. I'm hoping when we see CM7 things will be better.
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Sounds absolutely perfect on my Ford Sync audio.. I have a Scoche Bluetooth in my other car that I can test.. I haven't tested as it is currently off the road. I will let you know. With my Scoche and past phones I noticed the bluetooth is a little lower quality then the audio jack but not much and only with that unit.
I have a Motorola S305 headset that works very well with music (slacker, amazon mp3, and pandora). However, my bluetooth Samsung WEP570 sounds so bad, crackled, and quiet (even on max volume) that I don't even use it anymore for calls.
Boss428man said:
Sounds absolutely perfect on my Ford Sync audio.. I have a Scoche Bluetooth in my other car that I can test.. I haven't tested as it is currently off the road. I will let you know. With my Scoche and past phones I noticed the bluetooth is a little lower quality then the audio jack but not much and only with that unit.
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How is your call quality on the Ford sync? Specifically the incoming call volume.
I'm streaming Pandora to a MOTO roadster, then over fm to stereo, sounds great, no loss on the bass end either.
Have you tried another bt device?
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I personally have tried a few and have problems. However, I've tried multiple thunderbolts and they all sound the same on my kenwood. I've definitely read about HTC using less than stellar bluetooth on their units before, so I am assuming that is the case here. I guess it just works ok with some and not with others. Testing my X on the same kenwood unit I have and it's crystal clear with no distortion.
This has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the bluetooth hardware itself. Bluetooth is a wireless digital transfer protocol, nothing more nothing less. It does nothing to the audio quality during it's transmission. Where we have a problem is in the amount of "space" (the bitpool) provided to send the information from your device to the receiver. The lower the bitpool, the less space is available for your music and the more it must be compressed. Motorola may infact provide a higher bitpool setting in their devices than HTC which would account for them sounding better and I also know that the X has a "Use High Quality Bluetooth Audio" setting, which I'm sure enables a higher bitpool.
The type of music you listen to also has a significant effect on how this sounds. If you listen to something that is sonicly simple (ie hip hop, pop, etc etc) it doesn't need as much "space" to sound good. However, when you switch over to music that has more going on like heavy metal, it needs more room.
I can give you a perfect example. I was listening to Rage Against the Machine today. In the slower parts of the songs, it sounded GREAT, but then when it picked up and the song got more involved there was a huge loss of fidelity and it didn't sound very good at all.
Now, for those of you who are happy with how yours sounds, that's awesome, but for those of us who are not, we simply just want to know of a way to adjust the bitpool setting or find a developer who is willing to code it in to their kernel/rom which I believe is what needs to happen.
kkozma said:
This has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the bluetooth hardware itself. Bluetooth is a wireless digital transfer protocol, nothing more nothing less. It does nothing to the audio quality during it's transmission. Where we have a problem is in the amount of "space" (the bitpool) provided to send the information from your device to the receiver. The lower the bitpool, the less space is available for your music and the more it must be compressed. Motorola may infact provide a higher bitpool setting in their devices than HTC which would account for them sounding better and I also know that the X has a "Use High Quality Bluetooth Audio" setting, which I'm sure enables a higher bitpool.
The type of music you listen to also has a significant effect on how this sounds. If you listen to something that is sonicly simple (ie hip hop, pop, etc etc) it doesn't need as much "space" to sound good. However, when you switch over to music that has more going on like heavy metal, it needs more room.
I can give you a perfect example. I was listening to Rage Against the Machine today. In the slower parts of the songs, it sounded GREAT, but then when it picked up and the song got more involved there was a huge loss of fidelity and it didn't sound very good at all.
Now, for those of you who are happy with how yours sounds, that's awesome, but for those of us who are not, we simply just want to know of a way to adjust the bitpool setting or find a developer who is willing to code it in to their kernel/rom which I believe is what needs to happen.
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Amen. You just summed up the situation perfectly. I forgot the X has the check box for high quality BT audio, that could very well be what makes it better. I'm going to check it out tonight w/o that checked and see how it fares. Not sure why HTC wouldn't have an option like that.
Just found a post here that seems very related. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=708685
Apparently CM uses an open source BT stack that has good settings to use the higher bitpool but HTC chooses the Broadcom stack that utilizes a much lower bitpool as stated above. They don't seem to have a way to raise this value though....
azwildfire said:
Question,
Using bluetooth to play audio from Pandora sounds terrible. Lots of static, studdering, skipping, cut outs.
If i use a stereo cable it sounds great, so that rules out software.
My atrix sounded gorgeous over blue tooth, so that rules out the equipment.
Anyone else have any sound quality issues with the bluetooth?
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i've had no issues. I use Pandora w/ high quality audio over BT into my Ford Sync system.
Sounds great. Somewhere between satellite radio and MP3 player SNR ratio.
Ironically my streaming audio is fine from mp3's i put on the SD, but IN CALL volume is much lower then i am used too, i have a Jabra BT530, its weird because the media volume is fine, but as soon as a call comes in i have to switch to the handset to hear the other end well.
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Ironically my streaming audio is fine from mp3's i put on the SD, but IN CALL volume is much lower then i am used too, i have a Jabra BT530, its weird because the media volume is fine, but as soon as a call comes in i have to switch to the handset to hear the other end well.
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I had that problem but it turned out to just be a volume issue, BT vol was set way higher...
Again, Streaming pandora to Motorola Roaster, which in turn broadcasts FM to my car stereo. It sounds fantastic.
Just got my Rezound on Monday. It's my first HTC phone, and overall I love it... except for one problem.
When listening to music from the phone or Pandora radio, I notice a high pitched whine noise under the audio. It fluctuates between whining/buzzing/squealing and sounds like some kind of electrical interference. It's most noticeable during classical music or a quiet part of a song, or when switching MP3s/radio songs. The noise continues for about 2-4 seconds after stopping/pausing the song before it goes completely silent. It's bad enough that I've been getting headaches from it. I've tried multiple pairs of headphones and also toggling the Beats audio enhancement with no luck.
I saw a few threads where the Bionic had a similar problem. Anyone else experience this whining when listening to music through the 3.5mm jack on headphones or passing it through your car stereo?
Edit: I've now noticed that I can hear this noise even while the volume is muted, as long as some sort of audio is playing (MP3 from library or Pandora for example).
Yeah a bunch of us have it. It sounds like CPU noises and processing noises. Could be por shielding. I don't notice it that bad, and I've got reallllyy good ears (musician, too lol) and it doesn't bug me too much. But yeah, I can confirm its there. There's a thread on phandroid forums about it.
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Phew, I'm not crazy. I'm not a musician, but I guess I have really sensitive ears for it to bother me so much. It's especially obnoxious when hooked up through the car, since the whining doesn't seem to increase in loudness with the volume level, but the car volume DOES increase it.
A lot of people are reporting that the Bionic issue is/will be patched out. I contacted HTC but haven't heard back yet. I'm really hoping something can be done. My 2 year old OG Droid played audio without a hitch. : /
jayochs said:
Yeah a bunch of us have it. It sounds like CPU noises and processing noises. Could be por shielding. I don't notice it that bad, and I've got reallllyy good ears (musician, too lol) and it doesn't bug me too much. But yeah, I can confirm its there. There's a thread on phandroid forums about it.
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Oh man... I just ordered my Rezound this morning!
I hope it doesn't bother me.
if i can (and get super un-lazy, cuz i'm pretty lazy....) i'll record the noise from the earbuds into some of my sensitive recording mics to see if it picks it up to see if its the same noise. however, like i said, it doesn't bother me at all lol
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Just got my Rezound on Monday. It's my first HTC phone, and overall I love it... except for one problem.
When listening to music from the phone or Pandora radio, I notice a high pitched whine noise under the audio. It fluctuates between whining/buzzing/squealing and sounds like some kind of electrical interference. It's most noticeable during classical music or a quiet part of a song, or when switching MP3s/radio songs. The noise continues for about 2-4 seconds after stopping/pausing the song before it goes completely silent. It's bad enough that I've been getting headaches from it. I've tried multiple pairs of headphones and also toggling the Beats audio enhancement with no luck.
I saw a few threads where the Bionic had a similar problem. Anyone else experience this whining when listening to music through the 3.5mm jack on headphones or passing it through your car stereo?
Edit: I've now noticed that I can hear this noise even while the volume is muted, as long as some sort of audio is playing (MP3 from library or Pandora for example).
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I've noticed the same background whining sound on two different Rezound units when playing music through earbuds. I haven't tried my Motorola Stereo Bluetooth headphones to see if I can hear it through those yet.
The Beats sound quality is good, but this background interfaces is killing it for me. At this point the Audio from the Droid Bionic sounds better when using the different EQ settings.
Pretty inexcusable for an audio focused phone.
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Yeah they all do it though. My incredible does it. Maybe its interference with the radio or the CPU.
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Yeah they all do it though. My incredible does it. Maybe its interference with the radio or the CPU.
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I may be a lucky one but I get no background noise at all. That is with the included earbuds, Sony low end headphones, and through my aux in the car.
Now having said that I was initially getting some background noise in the car but changed the car charger and the noise went away. That was not a whine but more like static.
NilsP said:
I may be a lucky one but I get no background noise at all. That is with the included earbuds, Sony low end headphones, and through my aux in the car.
Now having said that I was initially getting some background noise in the car but changed the car charger and the noise went away. That was not a whine but more like static.
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Which charger does not produce the noise? I'm getting worried about this noise. I'm switching carriers for this phone so I'm not sure what I'll do if it really bothers me. Mine arrives Tuesday and that's the day I'm driving 2.5 hours to Mom's house for Thanksgiving so I'll get a nice long chance to test it out in my car.
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Which charger does not produce the noise? I'm getting worried about this noise. I'm switching carriers for this phone so I'm not sure what I'll do if it really bothers me. Mine arrives Tuesday and that's the day I'm driving 2.5 hours to Mom's house for Thanksgiving so I'll get a nice long chance to test it out in my car.
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Belkin mini 5v 1a for lighter and usb
I tried two different brands of wired earbuds and a regular wired over-the-ear headphones and can hear the background whining sound with all of them. It doesn't matter if I'm using the default music player, Google Music, WinMap (or 3rd party player), I can also hear it when streaming YouTube videos.
But if I use my Motorola HT820 Stereo Bluetooth headphones, there is no whining sound, just a small background "hiss" that the Motorola HT820 always has done.
So it seems the background whining problem with the Rezound has more to due with using the 3.5mm headset jack for listening to music, as I don't hear it when using Stereo Bluetooth headphones.
Maybe someone else with Bluetooth Stereo headphones can double-check?
FAUguy said:
I tried two different brands of wired earbuds and a regular wired over-the-ear headphones and can hear the background whining sound with all of them. It doesn't matter if I'm using the default music player, Google Music, WinMap (or 3rd party player), I can also hear it when streaming YouTube videos.
But if I use my Motorola HT820 Stereo Bluetooth headphones, there is no whining sound, just a small background "hiss" that the Motorola HT820 always has done.
So it seems the background whining problem with the Rezound has more to due with using the 3.5mm headset jack for listening to music, as I don't hear it when using Stereo Bluetooth headphones.
Maybe someone else with Bluetooth Stereo headphones can double-check?
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I would be curious if someone else could try this as well. In a response to my ticket regarding this HTC support suggested I try a bluetooth headset, I dont have one and they told me to go to the store and ask to try one. I dont plan on doing that but would be interesting if someone has one laying around already to try and confirm.
I tried removing my back cover and listening as well at their suggestion and that seems to take care of it as well so it may be an antennae issue.
I put the cover back on but have 4g off today to save some battery life and havent heard it yet while listening to music on my device, so it may even be the 4g signal interfering if someone else would like to try that as well.
my 4g is off and i hear the noise, so it's not the 4g radio
I notice it only when the music player is not playing any audio. When beats kicks in, the noise seems to go away.
Like when an album is done and the player has nothing to do, when the phone is connected to my truck stereo, I hear noise that changes in pitch with the RPMs.
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I notice that on my GPS when I use Bluetooth through my stereo speakers...my Garmin GPS puts out a radio signal and u set the car to that frequency so u hear stuff through your speakers...I hear my.rpm changes in that lol
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Some of what you guys are describing, the stuff with car chargers, has to do with a ground loop. http://www.epanorama.net/documents/groundloop/index.html
Some of it sounds like poor shielding. This is the noise you hear when you have earphones plugged in and no audio is playing. The audio jack/circuitry on this phone is probably very poorly shielded as all of them probably are nowadays. A lot of this noise gets drowned out with louder music, which is might be what happens when Beats is on.
I would love to know objectively if this were better or worse than other phones but no one ever tests these things and I'm not gonna hold my breath for a phone that touts a real headphone amp, DAC, and superior signal to noise ratios, or anything a music lover (not just hip-hop) might care about.
The easiest way I've found to get around most of this is to use Bluetooth audio. It doesn't sound great by any stretch, but it has less noise than most jacks and doesn't have the ground loop issue.
All I know is there was no noise at all with my Incredible.
I was listening to sections of John Lennon's Rolling Stone Interview (recorded shortly after the breakup of the Beatles) via the YouTube app on my Rezound today. The noise would start right after one segment would end, and stop as soon as I selected the next one.
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yep
i hear it when I am using the ibeats headset on calls, it is very annoying. However it only happens if I have the audio all the way up, after putting it down two times it goes away.
I tried a suggestion of turning on the Airplane Mode to kill data while using the music player, and I can still hear the backgtound whining interference sound. Even with a song playing, and turning the music volume all the way down to mute, I can still hear it in the background. But once I pause the song, the whinging stops a few seconds later. This happens while using any brand of wiered earbuds or headphones, not just the red ones that come included.
The only time I don't hear it on the Rezound is when using Bluetooth Stereo headphones.
Since I also just got the Droid Razr, I tried music playback on it, and it doesn't have any backgroud interference sounds, though the actual music quality still sounds better on the Rezound. Hopefully its an issue that can be resolved with a future software upgrade, but it might be a hardware issue that can't be fixed.
Are they any I jump in and out of my truck a lot and hate to take my phone out of the car
http://www.jaybirdgear.com/jf3/bluetooth-headphones-features.html
I have these. They work really well in terms of audio quality and battery life. Biggest challenge is getting the buds and inserts to feel comfortable while keeping them snug.
http://www.bose.com/controller?url=.../mobile_solutions/bluetooth_headset/index.jsp
Best, perhaps one of the most expensive. Yet they are the best in the market. A2DP, noise canceling and amazing comfort. I wear it all day long and never get tired. Also use it with grooveip and make VoIP calls free via google voice.
netw0lf said:
http://www.bose.com/controller?url=.../mobile_solutions/bluetooth_headset/index.jsp
Best, perhaps one of the most expensive. Yet they are the best in the market. A2DP, noise canceling and amazing comfort. I wear it all day long and never get tired. Also use it with grooveip and make VoIP calls free via google voice.
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loud? clear?
Are there Bose stereo ones? I have Motorola S9s and I think that they are great.
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Currently using these - good quality, good sound. No deep bass if thats what you're in to.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...N=-1&isNodeId=1&Description=LG+HBS700&x=0&y=0
I use the Jabra Clipper so I can change the headphones. It's a little bluetooth dongle that has a mic attached and you can use any miniplug headphone with it. Charges over micro USB, also--and we all have those.
I'm waiting for the new stereo headset from Sony: Smart Wireless Headset pro.
I have these as well as the motorola s9
The jaybirds are plain awesome
Great sound and noise suppression.
Listening
voice control
Calls
All work flawlessly. Can get 16 hours out of a charge and the range is great
Punchatron said:
http://www.jaybirdgear.com/jf3/bluetooth-headphones-features.html
I have these. They work really well in terms of audio quality and battery life. Biggest challenge is getting the buds and inserts to feel comfortable while keeping them snug.
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yuuuup
I love the Sony MW600 stereo bluetooth headset. It is $59 (same as the Clipper) but it has up to 8.5 hours talk time, connects to 3 devices, accepts any 3.5 mm stereo earbuds/headphones, has an FM radio, and best of all has a display that shows the current song playing from BT devices that support this feature. It supports rewind, fast forward, pause, play, cue, and review.
There is an annoying volume control that uses a touch sensitive bar.
The stereo sound is outstanding. The quiet is quiet. I do not hear any noise or hiss in the background.
I have tried many stereo BT headsets. This one is my favorite because of the sound quality, the display, and battery life. I listen to music and audio books all day with it. It saves having to pull out my player to change volume or rewind a track and so on.
http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/st...productId=8198552921666198163&tab=featuresTab
I am looking at these. Are they any good? I have small ears and need something to hold the ear pieces in place.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005FVNHBI/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER
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loud? clear?
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Very clear and very loud compared to any others in the market. You can try them for 30 days and return in case you're not happy. After about 10 mins, I could not take them out they were so comfortable!
Ipaqman01 said:
I love the Sony MW600 stereo bluetooth headset. It is $59 (same as the Clipper) but it has up to 8.5 hours talk time, connects to 3 devices, accepts any 3.5 mm stereo earbuds/headphones, has an FM radio, and best of all has a display that shows the current song playing from BT devices that support this feature. It supports rewind, fast forward, pause, play, cue, and review.
There is an annoying volume control that uses a touch sensitive bar.
The stereo sound is outstanding. The quiet is quiet. I do not hear any noise or hiss in the background.
I have tried many stereo BT headsets. This one is my favorite because of the sound quality, the display, and battery life. I listen to music and audio books all day with it. It saves having to pull out my player to change volume or rewind a track and so on.
http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/st...productId=8198552921666198163&tab=featuresTab
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+1. Had these headphones for about 2 years now and it still works. Battery doesn't seem to last for 8 hrs of straight use anymore, but its still one of my favorites.
I'm surprised the included headset is quite good. Never had a reason to replace.
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Bought a "cheap" set of RocketFish for gym and cycling and have been very impressed with them. This way a year or two ago so I'm sure there are alot more options out there now but they are still holding a strong charge and holding up well.
I just go the jaybird from best buy with a 20% discount coupon I got from buying my phone from them.
It sounds good, but I get audio dropouts on occasion which are bothering me a bit. I'm not entirely sure I'm going to keep them. The one thing I'm very surprised about is that it comes with over the ear cuffs to help keep them on even better.
I got myself the GOgroove AudioACTIVE and I mow with them and I am able to hear them over my mower I am also able to take calls and have been told that they can hear me better than my plantronics voyager pro. got them for 39.00$ on amazon.
Do any of these headsets work with S Voice and voice to text?
Ipaqman01 said:
I love the Sony MW600 stereo bluetooth headset. It is $59 (same as the Clipper) but it has up to 8.5 hours talk time, connects to 3 devices, accepts any 3.5 mm stereo earbuds/headphones, has an FM radio, and best of all has a display that shows the current song playing from BT devices that support this feature. It supports rewind, fast forward, pause, play, cue, and review.
There is an annoying volume control that uses a touch sensitive bar.
The stereo sound is outstanding. The quiet is quiet. I do not hear any noise or hiss in the background.
I have tried many stereo BT headsets. This one is my favorite because of the sound quality, the display, and battery life. I listen to music and audio books all day with it. It saves having to pull out my player to change volume or rewind a track and so on.
http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/st...productId=8198552921666198163&tab=featuresTab
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I have used the MW600 for almost a year. It works great, good battery life, and you can plug any headset you want into it (like the other person said the stock headphones it comes with are decent).
I went ahead and ordered the MW600 from Amazon, was 40.25 then, should get them tomorrow. Thanks!
Ipaqman01 said:
I love the Sony MW600 stereo bluetooth headset. It is $59 (same as the Clipper) but it has up to 8.5 hours talk time, connects to 3 devices, accepts any 3.5 mm stereo earbuds/headphones, has an FM radio, and best of all has a display that shows the current song playing from BT devices that support this feature. It supports rewind, fast forward, pause, play, cue, and review.
There is an annoying volume control that uses a touch sensitive bar.
The stereo sound is outstanding. The quiet is quiet. I do not hear any noise or hiss in the background.
I have tried many stereo BT headsets. This one is my favorite because of the sound quality, the display, and battery life. I listen to music and audio books all day with it. It saves having to pull out my player to change volume or rewind a track and so on.
http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/st...productId=8198552921666198163&tab=featuresTab
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Based on this and what others are saying, I think I am going to get these as well. I LOVE the fact that they come in WHITE to go along with my White Note.
One question, how long is the cord for the included headset?
Thanks!
So.. I bought the DNA today and am severely regretting this decision.. Wondering if anyone has experienced the same issue?
I have a Jaybird BlueBuds X bluetooth headphones. Compared to a lot of others, they have an amazing sound quality.. at least they had an amazing sound quality. When they were connected to my Galaxy S3 (running CM10.1 in the interest of full disclosure), they sounded as if they were hard-wired - no distortion, no buzzing, perfect sound quality.
I paired them with my new DNA, hoping for the same audio quality (and then some, due to famed Beats Audio) and... didn't get it.
So the problem I'm running into here is that they now sound like a pair of cheap, 10$ bluetooth headphones - the sound is distorted, there is crackling noise in the background, the music sounds like as if it's 64 kbps - barely usable, very unpleasant. As soon as I pair it back to my old S3, the sound comes back to life.
I've read the forums and understand that the OTA pushed out an update with some bluetooth fix.. I have the OTA (got it that way), so my phone is already running the supposed sound fix.
Has anyone experienced same problem? Especially with higher-end BT headphones? (Jaybirds, Sennheissers etc) Really like the phone, have been an HTC fan since WinMo days, but I simply cannot tolerate this BT flaw... Does it have to do with the BT chip that DNA has, or is it the BT stack/driver on this one?
++> On a side note - sound quality over wire is great.. so this a bluetooth only issue. The issue (noise) is more pronounced on higher frequencies..
I don't have BT headphones, but do have a Sony Xplod CD deck in my wife's Honda & pairing any of my HTC phones via BT sounds so horrible. However, I did get the HTC Steroclip for my Sony Xplod CD deck without BT in my truck & it sounds great. What gives? Was wondering if it might be the same issue as with the headphones.
I am running Creative 350's with apt-x codec and they sound great. I would find a set of headphones with apt-x. You won't be disappointed.
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ls430cw said:
I am running Creative 350's with apt-x codec and they sound great. I would find a set of headphones with apt-x. You won't be disappointed.
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Well, quite honestly, when i first started researching bt headphones for exercising there has not been a single pair that garnered the amount of positive reviews as the bluebuds.. plus they did sound amazing on s3. I did look for aptx - s3 uses it, but no workout headphones that had aptx had good reviews in terms of build quality etc.
I do wonder tho...
On dev.android under the about Android 4.2 JB it does mention that it got a new BT stack developed, replacing current BlueZ as well as updated low-latency audio.. maybe the new stack does indeed improve quality.
im going to flash the s3 with stock 4.1 and see how it sounds and then try a couple of variations of aosp stuff and report back..
Ps. I also found a mention of how s3 uses a2dp edr natively, whereas dna is using aptx... Its going to suck if this is truly a hardware issue...
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I don't have BT headphones, but do have a Sony Xplod CD deck in my wife's Honda & pairing any of my HTC phones via BT sounds so horrible. However, I did get the HTC Steroclip for my Sony Xplod CD deck without BT in my truck & it sounds great. What gives? Was wondering if it might be the same issue as with the headphones.
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I think Stereoclip has aptx.
So I flashed S3 back to Stock VRALF2, 4.0.x ICS, and played a couple of songs and still was getting crystal clear quality.. So it has to be the BT implementation in DNA.. Sad. Anyone has any insight into why/what could be the root cause? BT chip? DAC chip?
Thanks
If it helps any, Bluetooth audio sounds great in my 2012 Sonata.
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Do you know if the radio in your Sonata supports aptX?
Shoot I'm not even sure what that is. It sounds pretty much the same as when I have it plugged in tho.
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I use blue tooth in my car all the time and also over the blue tooth streamer for my receiver at home.
Sounds crystal clear and I have very nice speakers in both the car and at home.
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Is codec support built into blutooth or can codecs be added/modified. If so its a non issue. I would help with codec support if I were rooted
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Same issue. I streamed music from the same Google Music account, on both my Rezound and DNA, to the same receiver (2010 Infinity G37S).
DNA audio quality is noticeably bad. Especially in mid and high range. It sounds like very low bitrate audio, and/or very lossy compression. The Rezound audio quality over BT is nearly the same as wired.
I suspect HTC has deliberately chose to use a low bitpool value for A2DP w/ the stock Sense ROM. DNA now supports atpX. So, they gimped A2DP stream, with the goal being to sell more of their Bluetooth Stereo Clip product, that support atpX.
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Same issue. I streamed music from the same Google Music account, on both my Rezound and DNA, to the same receiver (2010 Infinity G37S).
DNA audio quality is noticeably bad. Especially in mid and high range. It sounds like very low bitrate audio, and/or very lossy compression. The Rezound audio quality over BT is nearly the same as wired.
I suspect HTC has deliberately chose to use a low bitpool value for A2DP w/ the stock Sense ROM. DNA now supports atpX. So, they gimped A2DP stream, with the goal being to sell more of their Bluetooth Stereo Clip product, that support atpX.
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If that's really the case.. shame HTC. My m25 ear piece supports aptx and sounds great playing music. In one ear...
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I have a set of jaybird freedom's myself and have had no issues with bluetooth, beats audio or audio quality. One thing i have seen though is that some roms do not handle beats over bluetooth very well. The other thing you probably should look at is to make sure that it is pairing as a stereo audio device and not a mono audio device.
+1 for horrible quality here. I use these LG blue tooth ear buds and they just sound terrible. sounded fine on my gs3...and I used one of those jbl stereo boxes and it's awful.. and again fine on the gs3. sucks.
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I have a set of Sony bt headphones (bought on amazon a while back for around $40 way before DNA I had Bionic back then) that sound very good I also stream via HTC BT dongle to my Sony xplod in car with with Fosgates all around music sounds GREAT I can really tell the difference when Beats is off even more so when I flash Awesome Beats...I also noticed a setting the other day on my Sony deck for AUX VOL while messing with sub output I turned the AUX volume up now I'm really bumping hahaha
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DNA Sound Quality
I hope you haven't given up entirely on your DNA since your post because there are some options you can explore.
Did you try turning off "Beats Audio" in your settings? I purchased the Power Amp music player update and Power Amp and Beats Audio don't work well together. In my experience, the standard Music player that comes with your phone works best with Beats. Other music players may also have the same problem. Second question, did your problem go away with the latest update to Jelly Bean 4.2.2?
Good Luck,
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So.. I bought the DNA today and am severely regretting this decision.. Wondering if anyone has experienced the same issue?
I have a Jaybird BlueBuds X bluetooth headphones. Compared to a lot of others, they have an amazing sound quality.. at least they had an amazing sound quality. When they were connected to my Galaxy S3 (running CM10.1 in the interest of full disclosure), they sounded as if they were hard-wired - no distortion, no buzzing, perfect sound quality.
I paired them with my new DNA, hoping for the same audio quality (and then some, due to famed Beats Audio) and... didn't get it.
So the problem I'm running into here is that they now sound like a pair of cheap, 10$ bluetooth headphones - the sound is distorted, there is crackling noise in the background, the music sounds like as if it's 64 kbps - barely usable, very unpleasant. As soon as I pair it back to my old S3, the sound comes back to life.
I've read the forums and understand that the OTA pushed out an update with some bluetooth fix.. I have the OTA (got it that way), so my phone is already running the supposed sound fix.
Has anyone experienced same problem? Especially with higher-end BT headphones? (Jaybirds, Sennheissers etc) Really like the phone, have been an HTC fan since WinMo days, but I simply cannot tolerate this BT flaw... Does it have to do with the BT chip that DNA has, or is it the BT stack/driver on this one?
++> On a side note - sound quality over wire is great.. so this a bluetooth only issue. The issue (noise) is more pronounced on higher frequencies..
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hey guys, i noticed that listening to music over my sony car stereo is not of great quality i tried all the settings in the sound, like clear audio etc, and dynamic settings and sound enhancement settings, i use power amp player and use music fx setting with it, also tried without it . Can someone recommend whats the best way to listen to music to over bluetooth, i also tried installing viper4android audio mod but something is putting me off when it comes to listening to music over bluetooth. my car stereo is sony bt mex5000
Try Player Pro with DSP Pack..if that doesn't do it. Plug it in with a regular cable to your car stereo and try that
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Try Player Pro with DSP Pack..if that doesn't do it. Plug it in with a regular cable to your car stereo and try that
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tried it still the same not that good, is there anyone that can tell me what i need to buy to enhance and get best audio quality over bluetooth as i try to not use cables at all
Your ultra supports apt-x, so streaming over apt-x is the better bet, but not sure if your car supports it.
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If you're streaming to a car stereo you have to take into account that you have 2 amps in play. You need the sound coming out of the phone as clean as possible, so turn off any enhancements including graphic equalising and just have a pure output. Otherwise you'll get double processing which will sound awful. This goes double for POWERaMP as it has probably the most powerful processing available!
Unfortunately your stereo doesn't support apt-x but you should still get good quality through a2dp.
You haven't said what's wrong with the sound though? Give a brief description.
I use mine on my parrot with PowerAmp and it sounds flawless.
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If you're streaming to a car stereo you have to take into account that you have 2 amps in play. You need the sound coming out of the phone as clean as possible, so turn off any enhancements including graphic equalising and just have a pure output. Otherwise you'll get double processing which will sound awful. This goes double for POWERaMP as it has probably the most powerful processing available!
Unfortunately your stereo doesn't support apt-x but you should still get good quality through a2dp.
You haven't said what's wrong with the sound though? Give a brief description.
I use mine on my parrot with PowerAmp and it sounds flawless.
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interesting, i thought if i use enhancements on my phone like viper4android it will help in listening to good quality over bluetooth.
I use power amp, so you advise me to remove the also direct control from power amp, and the equaliser too from power amp, and streaming as clean as possible to my sony stereo and control the sound from there.
how about the tone on power amp and the limit on shall i turn them off too.
How bout the sony z ultra, it has sound mods too like clear audio and sound enhancement and dynamic normaliser should i turn then off too.
since i started playing with processing enhancements I started to hate listening to music altogether.
I just bought today jbl component speaker 4 of them, and jbl sub, so i would really like help in how to listen to great sound, and which player other than power amp is the best out there, i tried neutron player and i found it so difficult to get good sound out of it, especially when i played with enhancements
the sound i got before the jbls component was so muffled and so strange and irritating mids get lost, and if i turn up the mids the sound becomes so sharp and irritating to my ears.
with jbl its better now but i still am not where id like to be in listening to music over bluetooth, but i know my problem now mainly is to know how to stream music the best way from my phone to my sony BT mex5100. I know i my car stereo does not support aptx, so do u think if i buy a aptx bluetooth receiver like the uplay puck or kinivo it will help more or will it make no difference
what i aim to is a nice smooth sound not so sharp on my ears and a nice bass
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interesting, i thought if i use enhancements on my phone like viper4android it will help in listening to good quality over bluetooth.
I use power amp, so you advise me to remove the also direct control from power amp, and the equaliser too from power amp, and streaming as clean as possible to my sony stereo and control the sound from there.
how about the tone on power amp and the limit on shall i turn them off too.
How bout the sony z ultra, it has sound mods too like clear audio and sound enhancement and dynamic normaliser should i turn then off too.
since i started playing with processing enhancements I started to hate listening to music altogether.
I just bought today jbl component speaker 4 of them, and jbl sub, so i would really like help in how to listen to great sound, and which player other than power amp is the best out there, i tried neutron player and i found it so difficult to get good sound out of it, especially when i played with enhancements
the sound i got before the jbls component was so muffled and so strange and irritating mids get lost, and if i turn up the mids the sound becomes so sharp and irritating to my ears.
with jbl its better now but i still am not where id like to be in listening to music over bluetooth, but i know my problem now mainly is to know how to stream music the best way from my phone to my sony BT mex5100. I know i my car stereo does not support aptx, so do u think if i buy a aptx bluetooth receiver like the uplay puck or kinivo it will help more or will it make no difference
what i aim to is a nice smooth sound not so sharp on my ears and a nice bass
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Yeah, basically if you're outputting post processed sound to your car stereo, your stereo is doubling processing on top, so any bass or treble will be amped through the roof and so distort and hiss. Take as clean a sound into the car amp and then the amp can manage the levels properly within tolerance. Car amps are very difficult to replicate pure sound, they usually have some bias built in to make the most out of the environment and surrounding noise levels, plus they're a lot more powerful than any phone, so that's why you should rely on the stereo processing rather than amping the phone and running the stereo clean, just wouldn't have the same quality.
Also disable any Sony effects, they'll screw the output out also. Turn everything off.
Apt-x makes a big difference, so if you can, definitely look at a newer model, maybe pioneer or alpine or a high end parrot for great quality. With bluetooth, you definitely get what you pay for, so it's worth looking at the high end systems, and if possible test them out somewhere to find the one that's right for you. We've got Halfords in the UK where you can demo the systems in the shop, I'm sure there'll be something around wherever you are.
Personally I've always used PowerAmp, I love the sound it produces through headphones with processing, as well as clean when I disable all the tweaks, haven't found any other player that matches it so can't really comment on alternatives.
Probably not worth saying but make sure the format is good quality, 320 bit mp3, aac, etc. Anything less and you'll lose the bass and treble.
Really grateful for this topic as I'd love to know other people's views on this too... I have a mid level parrot system which I'm thinking of upgrading as it's a little low on power.
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Yeah, basically if you're outputting post processed sound to your car stereo, your stereo is doubling processing on top, so any bass or treble will be amped through the roof and so distort and hiss. Take as clean a sound into the car amp and then the amp can manage the levels properly within tolerance. Car amps are very difficult to replicate pure sound, they usually have some bias built in to make the most out of the environment and surrounding noise levels, plus they're a lot more powerful than any phone, so that's why you should rely on the stereo processing rather than amping the phone and running the stereo clean, just wouldn't have the same quality.
Also disable any Sony effects, they'll screw the output out also. Turn everything off.
Apt-x makes a big difference, so if you can, definitely look at a newer model, maybe pioneer or alpine or a high end parrot for great quality. With bluetooth, you definitely get what you pay for, so it's worth looking at the high end systems, and if possible test them out somewhere to find the one that's right for you. We've got Halfords in the UK where you can demo the systems in the shop, I'm sure there'll be something around wherever you are.
Personally I've always used PowerAmp, I love the sound it produces through headphones with processing, as well as clean when I disable all the tweaks, haven't found any other player that matches it so can't really comment on alternatives.
Probably not worth saying but make sure the format is good quality, 320 bit mp3, aac, etc. Anything less and you'll lose the bass and treble.
Really grateful for this topic as I'd love to know other people's views on this too... I have a mid level parrot system which I'm thinking of upgrading as it's a little low on power.
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i checked the net and i could not find any car stereo that has bluetooth with aptx, so which aptx receiver shall i buy, I found so far kinivo or play puck is there something better than those, by the way i bought the sony sbh2 bluetooth headset do u think i can use it as a good receiver but it does not support aptx
today i received my sony sbh2 headset, i tried streaming music using its bleu tooth capability on my sony stereo bt mex 5100 which has bluetooth in itself. so when i compared streaming music using the bluetooth of sbh2 to my sony stereo the sound was worse than when i used the built in bluetooth of my sony stereo. I know that my shb2 does not support aptx, so I was wondering if I buy a dongle that supports aptx will it give me better sound on my sony stereo than the built in bluetooth of my sony car stereo which does not support aptx.
I don't want to waste money if it won't improve the sound quality