hey guys, i noticed that listening to music over my sony car stereo is not of great quality i tried all the settings in the sound, like clear audio etc, and dynamic settings and sound enhancement settings, i use power amp player and use music fx setting with it, also tried without it . Can someone recommend whats the best way to listen to music to over bluetooth, i also tried installing viper4android audio mod but something is putting me off when it comes to listening to music over bluetooth. my car stereo is sony bt mex5000
Try Player Pro with DSP Pack..if that doesn't do it. Plug it in with a regular cable to your car stereo and try that
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Try Player Pro with DSP Pack..if that doesn't do it. Plug it in with a regular cable to your car stereo and try that
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tried it still the same not that good, is there anyone that can tell me what i need to buy to enhance and get best audio quality over bluetooth as i try to not use cables at all
Your ultra supports apt-x, so streaming over apt-x is the better bet, but not sure if your car supports it.
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If you're streaming to a car stereo you have to take into account that you have 2 amps in play. You need the sound coming out of the phone as clean as possible, so turn off any enhancements including graphic equalising and just have a pure output. Otherwise you'll get double processing which will sound awful. This goes double for POWERaMP as it has probably the most powerful processing available!
Unfortunately your stereo doesn't support apt-x but you should still get good quality through a2dp.
You haven't said what's wrong with the sound though? Give a brief description.
I use mine on my parrot with PowerAmp and it sounds flawless.
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If you're streaming to a car stereo you have to take into account that you have 2 amps in play. You need the sound coming out of the phone as clean as possible, so turn off any enhancements including graphic equalising and just have a pure output. Otherwise you'll get double processing which will sound awful. This goes double for POWERaMP as it has probably the most powerful processing available!
Unfortunately your stereo doesn't support apt-x but you should still get good quality through a2dp.
You haven't said what's wrong with the sound though? Give a brief description.
I use mine on my parrot with PowerAmp and it sounds flawless.
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interesting, i thought if i use enhancements on my phone like viper4android it will help in listening to good quality over bluetooth.
I use power amp, so you advise me to remove the also direct control from power amp, and the equaliser too from power amp, and streaming as clean as possible to my sony stereo and control the sound from there.
how about the tone on power amp and the limit on shall i turn them off too.
How bout the sony z ultra, it has sound mods too like clear audio and sound enhancement and dynamic normaliser should i turn then off too.
since i started playing with processing enhancements I started to hate listening to music altogether.
I just bought today jbl component speaker 4 of them, and jbl sub, so i would really like help in how to listen to great sound, and which player other than power amp is the best out there, i tried neutron player and i found it so difficult to get good sound out of it, especially when i played with enhancements
the sound i got before the jbls component was so muffled and so strange and irritating mids get lost, and if i turn up the mids the sound becomes so sharp and irritating to my ears.
with jbl its better now but i still am not where id like to be in listening to music over bluetooth, but i know my problem now mainly is to know how to stream music the best way from my phone to my sony BT mex5100. I know i my car stereo does not support aptx, so do u think if i buy a aptx bluetooth receiver like the uplay puck or kinivo it will help more or will it make no difference
what i aim to is a nice smooth sound not so sharp on my ears and a nice bass
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interesting, i thought if i use enhancements on my phone like viper4android it will help in listening to good quality over bluetooth.
I use power amp, so you advise me to remove the also direct control from power amp, and the equaliser too from power amp, and streaming as clean as possible to my sony stereo and control the sound from there.
how about the tone on power amp and the limit on shall i turn them off too.
How bout the sony z ultra, it has sound mods too like clear audio and sound enhancement and dynamic normaliser should i turn then off too.
since i started playing with processing enhancements I started to hate listening to music altogether.
I just bought today jbl component speaker 4 of them, and jbl sub, so i would really like help in how to listen to great sound, and which player other than power amp is the best out there, i tried neutron player and i found it so difficult to get good sound out of it, especially when i played with enhancements
the sound i got before the jbls component was so muffled and so strange and irritating mids get lost, and if i turn up the mids the sound becomes so sharp and irritating to my ears.
with jbl its better now but i still am not where id like to be in listening to music over bluetooth, but i know my problem now mainly is to know how to stream music the best way from my phone to my sony BT mex5100. I know i my car stereo does not support aptx, so do u think if i buy a aptx bluetooth receiver like the uplay puck or kinivo it will help more or will it make no difference
what i aim to is a nice smooth sound not so sharp on my ears and a nice bass
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Yeah, basically if you're outputting post processed sound to your car stereo, your stereo is doubling processing on top, so any bass or treble will be amped through the roof and so distort and hiss. Take as clean a sound into the car amp and then the amp can manage the levels properly within tolerance. Car amps are very difficult to replicate pure sound, they usually have some bias built in to make the most out of the environment and surrounding noise levels, plus they're a lot more powerful than any phone, so that's why you should rely on the stereo processing rather than amping the phone and running the stereo clean, just wouldn't have the same quality.
Also disable any Sony effects, they'll screw the output out also. Turn everything off.
Apt-x makes a big difference, so if you can, definitely look at a newer model, maybe pioneer or alpine or a high end parrot for great quality. With bluetooth, you definitely get what you pay for, so it's worth looking at the high end systems, and if possible test them out somewhere to find the one that's right for you. We've got Halfords in the UK where you can demo the systems in the shop, I'm sure there'll be something around wherever you are.
Personally I've always used PowerAmp, I love the sound it produces through headphones with processing, as well as clean when I disable all the tweaks, haven't found any other player that matches it so can't really comment on alternatives.
Probably not worth saying but make sure the format is good quality, 320 bit mp3, aac, etc. Anything less and you'll lose the bass and treble.
Really grateful for this topic as I'd love to know other people's views on this too... I have a mid level parrot system which I'm thinking of upgrading as it's a little low on power.
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Yeah, basically if you're outputting post processed sound to your car stereo, your stereo is doubling processing on top, so any bass or treble will be amped through the roof and so distort and hiss. Take as clean a sound into the car amp and then the amp can manage the levels properly within tolerance. Car amps are very difficult to replicate pure sound, they usually have some bias built in to make the most out of the environment and surrounding noise levels, plus they're a lot more powerful than any phone, so that's why you should rely on the stereo processing rather than amping the phone and running the stereo clean, just wouldn't have the same quality.
Also disable any Sony effects, they'll screw the output out also. Turn everything off.
Apt-x makes a big difference, so if you can, definitely look at a newer model, maybe pioneer or alpine or a high end parrot for great quality. With bluetooth, you definitely get what you pay for, so it's worth looking at the high end systems, and if possible test them out somewhere to find the one that's right for you. We've got Halfords in the UK where you can demo the systems in the shop, I'm sure there'll be something around wherever you are.
Personally I've always used PowerAmp, I love the sound it produces through headphones with processing, as well as clean when I disable all the tweaks, haven't found any other player that matches it so can't really comment on alternatives.
Probably not worth saying but make sure the format is good quality, 320 bit mp3, aac, etc. Anything less and you'll lose the bass and treble.
Really grateful for this topic as I'd love to know other people's views on this too... I have a mid level parrot system which I'm thinking of upgrading as it's a little low on power.
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i checked the net and i could not find any car stereo that has bluetooth with aptx, so which aptx receiver shall i buy, I found so far kinivo or play puck is there something better than those, by the way i bought the sony sbh2 bluetooth headset do u think i can use it as a good receiver but it does not support aptx
today i received my sony sbh2 headset, i tried streaming music using its bleu tooth capability on my sony stereo bt mex 5100 which has bluetooth in itself. so when i compared streaming music using the bluetooth of sbh2 to my sony stereo the sound was worse than when i used the built in bluetooth of my sony stereo. I know that my shb2 does not support aptx, so I was wondering if I buy a dongle that supports aptx will it give me better sound on my sony stereo than the built in bluetooth of my sony car stereo which does not support aptx.
I don't want to waste money if it won't improve the sound quality
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Question,
Using bluetooth to play audio from Pandora sounds terrible. Lots of static, studdering, skipping, cut outs.
If i use a stereo cable it sounds great, so that rules out software.
My atrix sounded gorgeous over blue tooth, so that rules out the equipment.
Anyone else have any sound quality issues with the bluetooth?
No issue so far, use for about 4 hours a day for conference calls and then pandora/slacker or doubletwist for 2-3 hours more. Using Samsung sbh600 bluetooth.
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I use A2DP stereo streaming to two different devices (car and supertooth disco) and it sound excellent! Much better than my old evo and just as good as the nexus S I had for a while.
If you are using wifi for the connection to Pandora, try switching to 3G or 4G. Wifi and bluetooth can interfere with each other as they use the same frequency. I haven't had any issues, but have seen it before with other devices.
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Question,
Using bluetooth to play audio from Pandora sounds terrible. Lots of static, studdering, skipping, cut outs.
If i use a stereo cable it sounds great, so that rules out software.
My atrix sounded gorgeous over blue tooth, so that rules out the equipment.
Anyone else have any sound quality issues with the bluetooth?
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I noticed the same thing today streaming to my kenwood unit. My droid X had flawless sound, this was exactly as you described. Any fix yet?
One thing I noticed, my X had a check box for an enhanced bluetooth audio quality....not sure if that made a difference or not.
Been using the phone in my car with my alpine deck without issue. I have the add-on bluetooth from alpine and it works really good with the phone. Randomly the music cuts out for a second but my old blackberry did the same thing, and so did my iPod Touch (2nd gen).
Shutting off the wifi on the phone isn't a bad idea... might give that a shot to see if that helps your issue? My blackberry would randomly distort the music. I would close pandora and do a battery pull then it would usually be back to "normal".
I have the same issue with my Clarion deck. Of course...I've somewhat convinced myself the speakers are a bit blown...but it's worse on BT than wired. From what I've been able to read there is a "bitpool" setting which controls the quality, and by default it's pretty low in the 30's, while it can go up to the 50's and the sound quality is noticeably different. CM fixes this from what I've read, but that's all. Apparently Blackberry has a higher setting by default, and each manufacturer can set their's different.
I'm hoping that a combination of new speakers and CM7 will remedy my issue.
interesting I've got a pioneer premier DEH-P710BT
and it sounds amazing
maybe look for a firmware update for your receiver?
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interesting I've got a pioneer premier DEH-P710BT
and it sounds amazing
maybe look for a firmware update for your receiver?
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mine is updated to their most current firmware. I'm more inclined to think it's a bad bluetooth stack like weiln12 mentions above. gonna try it out with my friends thunderbolt tonight and see if it is the same.
I also have a clarion deck and find the bluetooth audio quality to be horrific. I find it hard to believe that it's the head unit at fault since my old Droid1 sounded perfectly fine.
Is anyone aware of any roms or kernels that have a higher bitpool setting?
I haven't found any yet. I'm hoping when we see CM7 things will be better.
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Sounds absolutely perfect on my Ford Sync audio.. I have a Scoche Bluetooth in my other car that I can test.. I haven't tested as it is currently off the road. I will let you know. With my Scoche and past phones I noticed the bluetooth is a little lower quality then the audio jack but not much and only with that unit.
I have a Motorola S305 headset that works very well with music (slacker, amazon mp3, and pandora). However, my bluetooth Samsung WEP570 sounds so bad, crackled, and quiet (even on max volume) that I don't even use it anymore for calls.
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Sounds absolutely perfect on my Ford Sync audio.. I have a Scoche Bluetooth in my other car that I can test.. I haven't tested as it is currently off the road. I will let you know. With my Scoche and past phones I noticed the bluetooth is a little lower quality then the audio jack but not much and only with that unit.
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How is your call quality on the Ford sync? Specifically the incoming call volume.
I'm streaming Pandora to a MOTO roadster, then over fm to stereo, sounds great, no loss on the bass end either.
Have you tried another bt device?
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I personally have tried a few and have problems. However, I've tried multiple thunderbolts and they all sound the same on my kenwood. I've definitely read about HTC using less than stellar bluetooth on their units before, so I am assuming that is the case here. I guess it just works ok with some and not with others. Testing my X on the same kenwood unit I have and it's crystal clear with no distortion.
This has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the bluetooth hardware itself. Bluetooth is a wireless digital transfer protocol, nothing more nothing less. It does nothing to the audio quality during it's transmission. Where we have a problem is in the amount of "space" (the bitpool) provided to send the information from your device to the receiver. The lower the bitpool, the less space is available for your music and the more it must be compressed. Motorola may infact provide a higher bitpool setting in their devices than HTC which would account for them sounding better and I also know that the X has a "Use High Quality Bluetooth Audio" setting, which I'm sure enables a higher bitpool.
The type of music you listen to also has a significant effect on how this sounds. If you listen to something that is sonicly simple (ie hip hop, pop, etc etc) it doesn't need as much "space" to sound good. However, when you switch over to music that has more going on like heavy metal, it needs more room.
I can give you a perfect example. I was listening to Rage Against the Machine today. In the slower parts of the songs, it sounded GREAT, but then when it picked up and the song got more involved there was a huge loss of fidelity and it didn't sound very good at all.
Now, for those of you who are happy with how yours sounds, that's awesome, but for those of us who are not, we simply just want to know of a way to adjust the bitpool setting or find a developer who is willing to code it in to their kernel/rom which I believe is what needs to happen.
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This has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the bluetooth hardware itself. Bluetooth is a wireless digital transfer protocol, nothing more nothing less. It does nothing to the audio quality during it's transmission. Where we have a problem is in the amount of "space" (the bitpool) provided to send the information from your device to the receiver. The lower the bitpool, the less space is available for your music and the more it must be compressed. Motorola may infact provide a higher bitpool setting in their devices than HTC which would account for them sounding better and I also know that the X has a "Use High Quality Bluetooth Audio" setting, which I'm sure enables a higher bitpool.
The type of music you listen to also has a significant effect on how this sounds. If you listen to something that is sonicly simple (ie hip hop, pop, etc etc) it doesn't need as much "space" to sound good. However, when you switch over to music that has more going on like heavy metal, it needs more room.
I can give you a perfect example. I was listening to Rage Against the Machine today. In the slower parts of the songs, it sounded GREAT, but then when it picked up and the song got more involved there was a huge loss of fidelity and it didn't sound very good at all.
Now, for those of you who are happy with how yours sounds, that's awesome, but for those of us who are not, we simply just want to know of a way to adjust the bitpool setting or find a developer who is willing to code it in to their kernel/rom which I believe is what needs to happen.
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Amen. You just summed up the situation perfectly. I forgot the X has the check box for high quality BT audio, that could very well be what makes it better. I'm going to check it out tonight w/o that checked and see how it fares. Not sure why HTC wouldn't have an option like that.
Just found a post here that seems very related. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=708685
Apparently CM uses an open source BT stack that has good settings to use the higher bitpool but HTC chooses the Broadcom stack that utilizes a much lower bitpool as stated above. They don't seem to have a way to raise this value though....
azwildfire said:
Question,
Using bluetooth to play audio from Pandora sounds terrible. Lots of static, studdering, skipping, cut outs.
If i use a stereo cable it sounds great, so that rules out software.
My atrix sounded gorgeous over blue tooth, so that rules out the equipment.
Anyone else have any sound quality issues with the bluetooth?
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i've had no issues. I use Pandora w/ high quality audio over BT into my Ford Sync system.
Sounds great. Somewhere between satellite radio and MP3 player SNR ratio.
Ironically my streaming audio is fine from mp3's i put on the SD, but IN CALL volume is much lower then i am used too, i have a Jabra BT530, its weird because the media volume is fine, but as soon as a call comes in i have to switch to the handset to hear the other end well.
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Ironically my streaming audio is fine from mp3's i put on the SD, but IN CALL volume is much lower then i am used too, i have a Jabra BT530, its weird because the media volume is fine, but as soon as a call comes in i have to switch to the handset to hear the other end well.
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I had that problem but it turned out to just be a volume issue, BT vol was set way higher...
Again, Streaming pandora to Motorola Roaster, which in turn broadcasts FM to my car stereo. It sounds fantastic.
I know I'm early to the game as not many people have this pre-launch... but for those of you who were lucky enough to get your hands on one [or if this thread persists to launch date...] :
Is it just me, or does the sound quality when streaming BT just plain awful? I can't find anywhere in the settings to adjust the EQ when on BT. I'm fearing that the sound quality was tuned specifically for the included iBeats headphones (which are pretty good so far).
I spend a lot of time commuting, and used to use my Thunderbolt as my primary music source (streaming BT to Lexus IS350, which has a great sound system)... I've spent 2 days with the Rezound, and am seriously considering going back to the TB.
Anyone having similar experience? Am I dumb and there's a setting somewhere?
well, no re:Zound here yet, but my experience using bluetooth for music just isn't as good as going through AUX.
Ive spent about $2,000 on the speakers, amps & subs in my car and tried using my TB both through AUX and BT. I found the sound quality to be noticably better with the AUX. You can get a short 3' gold tipped cable at Radio Shack for about $5 - $10.
Yeah, my wife's Bluetooth (Moto ROKR) unit does a pretty poor job of reproducing music from her phone. It's good enough for her, I guess. I have not tried the Rezound on her system yet. If I get a chance, I will let you know.
I have tried the Rezound on my Line In in my car, and the extra bass is a little annoying. I turn up the bass in my car as it is, for radio playback, CD playback, Pandora playback, etc. When I start the HTC music player, my normal bass settings add to the Beats bass amplification and things are a little over-the-top in the low end.
That's to be expected, Dan. Your car has an equalizer built in, so you're putting one eq over another. Turn beats off or use the other dolby or whatever one, then use your cars eq...or turn down your cars eq and use beats. That eq was designed for headphones, though
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The thunderbolt has Bluetooth 2.1 and the Rezound has 3.0
Differences between them is 3.0 uses less power, transmits at a higher distance, but has lower quality. It really is meant for phone calls and not music, I'd suggest finding an FM transmitter or AUX line if your car has it. Both are really cheap and much higher quality than even the 2.1 bluetooth.
about the EQ bit, yeah... since i have the subs in back, i let them handle the low's 100%.. all the other speakers handle just the mids/highs.
oh and i remember when i went to get my head unit at a local car audio shop, i mentioned using blue tooth for music and the salesman gave me a strange look and stated that blue booth isn't geared towards music and said to stick with aux. heh
So.. I bought the DNA today and am severely regretting this decision.. Wondering if anyone has experienced the same issue?
I have a Jaybird BlueBuds X bluetooth headphones. Compared to a lot of others, they have an amazing sound quality.. at least they had an amazing sound quality. When they were connected to my Galaxy S3 (running CM10.1 in the interest of full disclosure), they sounded as if they were hard-wired - no distortion, no buzzing, perfect sound quality.
I paired them with my new DNA, hoping for the same audio quality (and then some, due to famed Beats Audio) and... didn't get it.
So the problem I'm running into here is that they now sound like a pair of cheap, 10$ bluetooth headphones - the sound is distorted, there is crackling noise in the background, the music sounds like as if it's 64 kbps - barely usable, very unpleasant. As soon as I pair it back to my old S3, the sound comes back to life.
I've read the forums and understand that the OTA pushed out an update with some bluetooth fix.. I have the OTA (got it that way), so my phone is already running the supposed sound fix.
Has anyone experienced same problem? Especially with higher-end BT headphones? (Jaybirds, Sennheissers etc) Really like the phone, have been an HTC fan since WinMo days, but I simply cannot tolerate this BT flaw... Does it have to do with the BT chip that DNA has, or is it the BT stack/driver on this one?
++> On a side note - sound quality over wire is great.. so this a bluetooth only issue. The issue (noise) is more pronounced on higher frequencies..
I don't have BT headphones, but do have a Sony Xplod CD deck in my wife's Honda & pairing any of my HTC phones via BT sounds so horrible. However, I did get the HTC Steroclip for my Sony Xplod CD deck without BT in my truck & it sounds great. What gives? Was wondering if it might be the same issue as with the headphones.
I am running Creative 350's with apt-x codec and they sound great. I would find a set of headphones with apt-x. You won't be disappointed.
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I am running Creative 350's with apt-x codec and they sound great. I would find a set of headphones with apt-x. You won't be disappointed.
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Well, quite honestly, when i first started researching bt headphones for exercising there has not been a single pair that garnered the amount of positive reviews as the bluebuds.. plus they did sound amazing on s3. I did look for aptx - s3 uses it, but no workout headphones that had aptx had good reviews in terms of build quality etc.
I do wonder tho...
On dev.android under the about Android 4.2 JB it does mention that it got a new BT stack developed, replacing current BlueZ as well as updated low-latency audio.. maybe the new stack does indeed improve quality.
im going to flash the s3 with stock 4.1 and see how it sounds and then try a couple of variations of aosp stuff and report back..
Ps. I also found a mention of how s3 uses a2dp edr natively, whereas dna is using aptx... Its going to suck if this is truly a hardware issue...
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I don't have BT headphones, but do have a Sony Xplod CD deck in my wife's Honda & pairing any of my HTC phones via BT sounds so horrible. However, I did get the HTC Steroclip for my Sony Xplod CD deck without BT in my truck & it sounds great. What gives? Was wondering if it might be the same issue as with the headphones.
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I think Stereoclip has aptx.
So I flashed S3 back to Stock VRALF2, 4.0.x ICS, and played a couple of songs and still was getting crystal clear quality.. So it has to be the BT implementation in DNA.. Sad. Anyone has any insight into why/what could be the root cause? BT chip? DAC chip?
Thanks
If it helps any, Bluetooth audio sounds great in my 2012 Sonata.
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Do you know if the radio in your Sonata supports aptX?
Shoot I'm not even sure what that is. It sounds pretty much the same as when I have it plugged in tho.
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I use blue tooth in my car all the time and also over the blue tooth streamer for my receiver at home.
Sounds crystal clear and I have very nice speakers in both the car and at home.
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Is codec support built into blutooth or can codecs be added/modified. If so its a non issue. I would help with codec support if I were rooted
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Same issue. I streamed music from the same Google Music account, on both my Rezound and DNA, to the same receiver (2010 Infinity G37S).
DNA audio quality is noticeably bad. Especially in mid and high range. It sounds like very low bitrate audio, and/or very lossy compression. The Rezound audio quality over BT is nearly the same as wired.
I suspect HTC has deliberately chose to use a low bitpool value for A2DP w/ the stock Sense ROM. DNA now supports atpX. So, they gimped A2DP stream, with the goal being to sell more of their Bluetooth Stereo Clip product, that support atpX.
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Same issue. I streamed music from the same Google Music account, on both my Rezound and DNA, to the same receiver (2010 Infinity G37S).
DNA audio quality is noticeably bad. Especially in mid and high range. It sounds like very low bitrate audio, and/or very lossy compression. The Rezound audio quality over BT is nearly the same as wired.
I suspect HTC has deliberately chose to use a low bitpool value for A2DP w/ the stock Sense ROM. DNA now supports atpX. So, they gimped A2DP stream, with the goal being to sell more of their Bluetooth Stereo Clip product, that support atpX.
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If that's really the case.. shame HTC. My m25 ear piece supports aptx and sounds great playing music. In one ear...
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Jaybird + dna
I have a set of jaybird freedom's myself and have had no issues with bluetooth, beats audio or audio quality. One thing i have seen though is that some roms do not handle beats over bluetooth very well. The other thing you probably should look at is to make sure that it is pairing as a stereo audio device and not a mono audio device.
+1 for horrible quality here. I use these LG blue tooth ear buds and they just sound terrible. sounded fine on my gs3...and I used one of those jbl stereo boxes and it's awful.. and again fine on the gs3. sucks.
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I have a set of Sony bt headphones (bought on amazon a while back for around $40 way before DNA I had Bionic back then) that sound very good I also stream via HTC BT dongle to my Sony xplod in car with with Fosgates all around music sounds GREAT I can really tell the difference when Beats is off even more so when I flash Awesome Beats...I also noticed a setting the other day on my Sony deck for AUX VOL while messing with sub output I turned the AUX volume up now I'm really bumping hahaha
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DNA Sound Quality
I hope you haven't given up entirely on your DNA since your post because there are some options you can explore.
Did you try turning off "Beats Audio" in your settings? I purchased the Power Amp music player update and Power Amp and Beats Audio don't work well together. In my experience, the standard Music player that comes with your phone works best with Beats. Other music players may also have the same problem. Second question, did your problem go away with the latest update to Jelly Bean 4.2.2?
Good Luck,
tijayz said:
So.. I bought the DNA today and am severely regretting this decision.. Wondering if anyone has experienced the same issue?
I have a Jaybird BlueBuds X bluetooth headphones. Compared to a lot of others, they have an amazing sound quality.. at least they had an amazing sound quality. When they were connected to my Galaxy S3 (running CM10.1 in the interest of full disclosure), they sounded as if they were hard-wired - no distortion, no buzzing, perfect sound quality.
I paired them with my new DNA, hoping for the same audio quality (and then some, due to famed Beats Audio) and... didn't get it.
So the problem I'm running into here is that they now sound like a pair of cheap, 10$ bluetooth headphones - the sound is distorted, there is crackling noise in the background, the music sounds like as if it's 64 kbps - barely usable, very unpleasant. As soon as I pair it back to my old S3, the sound comes back to life.
I've read the forums and understand that the OTA pushed out an update with some bluetooth fix.. I have the OTA (got it that way), so my phone is already running the supposed sound fix.
Has anyone experienced same problem? Especially with higher-end BT headphones? (Jaybirds, Sennheissers etc) Really like the phone, have been an HTC fan since WinMo days, but I simply cannot tolerate this BT flaw... Does it have to do with the BT chip that DNA has, or is it the BT stack/driver on this one?
++> On a side note - sound quality over wire is great.. so this a bluetooth only issue. The issue (noise) is more pronounced on higher frequencies..
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Hi there,
I'm about (prolly) to buy a LG G2 in the next incomming days.
I was wondering what you guys were thinking about the Sound Quality of the G2, whichever variant you got, and how loud/quiet you think it is, from headphones, earpiece, or external speaker.
Lets hear your thoughts !
Paradoxxx said:
Hi there,
I'm about (prolly) to buy a LG G2 in the next incomming days.
I was wondering what you guys were thinking about the Sound Quality of the G2, whichever variant you got, and how loud/quiet you think it is, from headphones, earpiece, or external speaker.
Lets hear your thoughts !
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I'l say this, the G2 uses aptX, so I went to go find an aptX compatible headset. I purchased the LG HBS730 bt stereo headset... It'll be hard to top that in my mind.
The audio quality is really good. But then I rooted and installed viper4android and now, my audio is easily much better than on my s4
Stock, untweaked, the loudspeakers are adequate for only typical indoor (office/home) use, IMO. I was on a speakerphone call outside and found the speaker had too little volume to compete against the urban background noise (trucks and such passing by at idle speeds). I opted to put in my headphones instead.
Ringers and notifications seemed to be adequate, again, for typical office and domestic settings. No way could I hear them driving down the highway with the windows down.
After installing Malladus, which includes volume tweaks, the notifications are significantly louder such that I've been able to set those sliders at mid position for my daily needs. The alarm has no problem waking me in the morning.
As far as line out and BT A2DP quality, I'd say it's very good but not quite up to the hype. Caveat, I have not yet tried any 24/192 source material. I mostly listen to 320k or better MP3 and FLAC music thru Neutron. For BT, it streams thru a Clarion FZ501 head unit. The headphone out drives a pair of Shure SE535s with Head-Fi-derived EQ tweaks. No outboard DAC or amp. I hate carrying more than absolutely necessary.
My research has concluded that Viper and Neutron are mutually exclusive and most head-fi'ers seem to prefer Neutron. I haven't tried Viper. I may one day, but haven't yet heard heard an informed, compelling argument to switch.
Line-out audio performance was in my Top-3 for priorities. I'm not disappointed or blown away. It's more than adequate for a quality mobile audio source, IMO.
cggorman said:
Stock, untweaked, the loudspeakers are adequate for only typical indoor (office/home) use, IMO. I was on a speakerphone call outside and found the speaker had too little volume to compete against the urban background noise (trucks and such passing by at idle speeds). I opted to put in my headphones instead.
Ringers and notifications seemed to be adequate, again, for typical office and domestic settings. No way could I hear them driving down the highway with the windows down.
After installing Malladus, which includes volume tweaks, the notifications are significantly louder such that I've been able to set those sliders at mid position for my daily needs. The alarm has no problem waking me in the morning.
As far as line out and BT A2DP quality, I'd say it's very good but not quite up to the hype. Caveat, I have not yet tried any 24/192 source material. I mostly listen to 320k or better MP3 and FLAC music thru Neutron. For BT, it streams thru a Clarion FZ501 head unit. The headphone out drives a pair of Shure SE535s with Head-Fi-derived EQ tweaks. No outboard DAC or amp. I hate carrying more than absolutely necessary.
My research has concluded that Viper and Neutron are mutually exclusive and most head-fi'ers seem to prefer Neutron. I haven't tried Viper. I may one day, but haven't yet heard heard an informed, compelling argument to switch.
Line-out audio performance was in my Top-3 for priorities. I'm not disappointed or blown away. It's more than adequate for a quality mobile audio source, IMO.
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Sounds good.
I've been using viper since ages now, and it got really the thing that other eq/audio mods don't have, but I couldn't tell you what it is.
You should give it a go sometimes.
Do you find the headphones loud enough?
Sounds really good also went ahead and installed Viper4Android to tweak up the sound my favorite EQ/Sound mod of them all.
On my Jaybirds BlueBuds X (bluetooth) they sound great!
With malladus ROM now my headphones are almost uncomfortable at max vol. I use vmoda crossfades can't beat cans ?
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jrgilbert79 said:
With malladus ROM now my headphones are almost uncomfortable at max vol. I use vmoda crossfades can't beat cans ?
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Hmm, sounds good if it comes too loud. Since I just use in ear headphones, it might be loud enough at the end !
I have used this volume boost mod to improve the audio output levels on the g2:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2482750
I prefer to keep things stock as possible (neutral sounding) as far as audio signal processing is concerned when listening to my audio.
I run sennheiser ie-80 in-ears currently (16 ohms) and they pair really well with the dac in this phone.
The stock music player is quite capable on this phone, and Neutron has seen minimal use in the time I've had it, although it is installed.
I owned the note 3 for a week before returning it for the lg g2.
I came from the Samsung note 2 before that which I also initially bought for the audio capabilities and ended up using the same volume boosting technique for the same reasons, the g2 audio does surpass the note 2 audio quality with the stock lg audio player, voume boost mod, and proper audio source files.
Paradoxxx said:
Sounds good.
I've been using viper since ages now, and it got really the thing that other eq/audio mods don't have, but I couldn't tell you what it is.
You should give it a go sometimes.
Do you find the headphones loud enough?
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Yes. I seldom run more than about 70%, but most IEMs aren't hard to drive.
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sil0 said:
I have used the volume boost mod here to improve the audio output levels on the g2: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2482750
I prefer to keep things as stock as possible as far as audio signal processing is concerned in terms of this party applications.
The stock music player is quite capable on this phone, and Neutron has seen minimal use in the time I've had it, although it is installed.
I owned the note 3 for a week before returning it for the lg g2.
I came from the Samsung note 2 before that which I also initially bought for the audio capabilities and ended up using the same volume boosting technique for the same reasons, the g2 audio does surpass the note 2 audio quality with the stock lg audio player, voume boost mod, and proper audio source files.
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i agree the stock sounds good. It just doesn't offer the EQ quality I want.
Can u guys confirm which DAC carries?
Read it´s the latest Wolfson WM5110 while also read it carries the Qualcomm WCD9320.
Also would like to know your impressions on sound quality when listening music with earphones.
Hi, I bought the nord 2 a few days ago, it's a wonderful phone but I have a problem.
The bluetooth audio quality is horrible. I don't know if it's only on my device , i have tried everything, the stock Dirac hd sound does not support bluetooth devices so the sound is flat. Also it seems like it's playing music on low bit rate. I have switched from aac to sbc there's a slight difference but still it sucks. Also changing some settings in developer settings did nothing.
I have Huawei Freebuds 4I and on every other device the sound is amazing but on the nord it's awful.
Currently I'm using wavelet eq but still the music is playing at a low bit rate. I don't wanna root my phone for viper4android so is there any other solution to this?
majloft said:
Hi, I bought the nord 2 a few days ago, it's a wonderful phone but I have a problem.
The bluetooth audio quality is horrible. I don't know if it's only on my device , i have tried everything, the stock Dirac hd sound does not support bluetooth devices so the sound is flat. Also it seems like it's playing music on low bit rate. I have switched from aac to sbc there's a slight difference but still it sucks. Also changing some settings in developer settings did nothing.
I have Huawei Freebuds 4I and on every other device the sound is amazing but on the nord it's awful.
Currently I'm using wavelet eq but still the music is playing at a low bit rate. I don't wanna root my phone for viper4android so is there any other solution to this?
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One plus Nord 2 is a budget phone yet not cheaper than other budget phones, yet they give a low-quality device like this. Try listening in a different Bluetooth headset.
No issue here, I have samsung galaxy buds+ TWS (aac mode) and a Marshall Mid (aptx mode) and bluetooth quality is perfect in both cases.
And for the lack of Dirac support in bluetooth mode I use the app "Poweramp Equalizer" to get some more bass in my headset
For music you can try jethdaudio player. It is extremely good.
I don't know what you are talking about I am using Realme Buds Wireless 2 on my Nord 2 and it sounds amazing and I mean it since I am picky about the audio quality with negligible delay like mine cost about 1/3rd of yours so it's probably a compability issue LDAC and AAC both work great on nord 2 ofc LDAC sounds better at the cost of more battery usage....
sonai365 said:
I don't know what you are talking about I am using Realme Buds Wireless 2 on my Nord 2 and it sounds amazing and I mean it since I am picky about the audio quality with negligible delay like mine cost about 1/3rd of yours so it's probably a compability issue LDAC and AAC both work great on nord 2 ofc LDAC sounds better at the cost of more battery usage....
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So far i still haven't found a solution, tried a different pair of earbuds (qcy) and the problem still remains.
majloft said:
So far i still haven't found a solution, tried a different pair of earbuds (qcy) and the problem still remains.
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Maybe a faulty piece really should just visit a service centre with all those headsets and see if it can be fixed if possible test out some more headsets by asking from your friends. Also check the settings of the music app you are using it's unlikely but still possible that it's set on low
Can't get it replaced.. Cracked the screen 5 minutes after I took the phone out of the box
Most folks dont know this, but bluetooth is a modern NAME for 'A' software version of hardware based tech capable of transmitting 240v AC through the air.
Tunguska anyone? That was the test, and the origional copywright is owned by TESLA.
Bluetooth, was designed to do the same, it's designed for AC current, explaining why bluetooth digital audio is the WORST sound ever invented.
Blutooth sounds so crap due to the following:
1: The inventors of digital audio decided to remove EVERY frequency the human ear cant hear. (according to who?)
2: They are now removing the lower base frequencies that we COULD hear, if we had say speaker's like my set of BW speaker's used by the BBC in the 60's and 70's, which can produce EVERY frequency. To make these speakers today is £14.000 PER speaker.
3: By removing all lower frequencies, they removed what is known in music, as the BODY of sound. They started this with digital techno, aka goa trance. I stopped buying musical digital instruments just because of this. If you take a 90's version of say 'Rising High's Church of Extacy' ( The tune that officially killed rock and roll due to it's pure analogue sound quality, hardness, and the deepest bass ) then play it through bluetooth, all you hear is tsstsstsstss, because the tweaters you think are great sounding speakers literally cant play anything under the highhat, without ECHO to fake the BASS.
If it's audio QUALITY you want, DROP bluetooth. Simple.
Another note:
As a dj of over 40 years in the undergound dance music scene, the one thing I cant understand is why I now have no CHOICE but to buy headphones for djing with a bluetooth mic built in! This allows whoever is spying on what we SAY to record my tune or live mix before I leave the gig, and claim it as their own. Try buying decent ANALOGUE headfones for djing.
Final note.
Nfc: the modern day verion of blutooth. Interfere's with bluetooth audio in that the AC current also has it's own magnetic field, which can, like binaural beats, interfere with bluetooth. Most fones use bluetooth AND Nfc. nae luck.
I personnaly know the best hacker in Scotland. 12 letters after his name in computer sciences...! He wrote the bluetooth app the gov called tap n trace, and he sold it to them for £30.000, they added Nfc (Near field Communication) and got most people in the world to install it in their fone. NIce one Gi88's!
Bluetooth... did you bite?
majloft said:
So far i still haven't found a solution, tried a different pair of earbuds (qcy) and the problem still remains.
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I am using my Sony WH-1000XM3 and it supports LDAC. The audio quality is great with support for equaliser. The only way to get LDAC was change the mode from connection stability to sound quality mode in sony headphone app. By default, it supports SBC. Pls check your headphone's app and also check if your headphone supports relevant codec.hope this helps.
I had a similar issue with my Nord 2 and my Libratone Too BT speaker, sound was horrible, like an old cassette player. The speaker only supports the SBC codec, I think.
I was able to fix the sound quality by enabling developer options and switching to AVRCP 1.6 and MAP 1.4 there.
Update A.16 fixes Bluetooth audio.
the problem is just with the freebuds 4i, but I don't understand why..
LeClair said:
Update A.16 fixes Bluetooth audio.
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