Hi guys, ive looked all around the web trying to find a solution but i cant say i found something yet so here it is.
I have a Nokia N900 right now and as much as i like it, its getting old, so im slowly looking for a new phone.
I feel like i might have been spoiled by the N900 multitasking and i want to know if my requirement for my new are possible to have.
So here it is: Is it possible to multitask with multiple instances of some applications? Really its only for email and sms, so i can for example copy text from one email, paste it in another one that is also open at the same time and can switch back and forth between them. In other words, can i have multiple sms/email conversations opened at the same time (one conversation with bob, one with jack, one with dave...) i often have more than 10-15 of them open at the same time on my n900 and if there would be only one reason for me to keep my phone it would be that.
I looked for multitasking apps with grid view hoping it would do that but from what i see you can only have one of those apps running at once anyway and it might seem crazy but for the number of time I switch between conversations on my n900, like i would using WLM for example, this could be a major dealbreaker for me if its not possible.
I'm sorry if it looks like a stupid question or something but ive completely missed the bus regarding android/ios/bb developpement as i used wm6.5 then switched directly to maemo5 2 years ago.
no one, really?
I don't think it works this way on Android, though you just might be able to find an app that does this.
thanks for the input
Sup Neo! I too went from the N900 to a GSII and I find myself not regretting it at all. There is no TRUE multitasking like the N900, at all from what I have found.
I'm not sure if any apps have been made available for such multi tasking, but I don't think anyone here who doesn't have N900 experience will understand what we mean.
Now it just needs an N900 writer to make something happen for android. Otherwise, I do NOT regret switching over, I absolutely love the speed and freedom of my new phone. The N900 was killing me on simple tasks like sending and receiving MMS, or connecting to the internet without destroying my battery life. No regrets.
neoblast said:
Hi guys, ive looked all around the web trying to find a solution but i cant say i found something yet so here it is.
I have a Nokia N900 right now and as much as i like it, its getting old, so im slowly looking for a new phone.
I feel like i might have been spoiled by the N900 multitasking and i want to know if my requirement for my new are possible to have.
So here it is: Is it possible to multitask with multiple instances of some applications? Really its only for email and sms, so i can for example copy text from one email, paste it in another one that is also open at the same time and can switch back and forth between them. In other words, can i have multiple sms/email conversations opened at the same time (one conversation with bob, one with jack, one with dave...) i often have more than 10-15 of them open at the same time on my n900 and if there would be only one reason for me to keep my phone it would be that.
I looked for multitasking apps with grid view hoping it would do that but from what i see you can only have one of those apps running at once anyway and it might seem crazy but for the number of time I switch between conversations on my n900, like i would using WLM for example, this could be a major dealbreaker for me if its not possible.
I'm sorry if it looks like a stupid question or something but ive completely missed the bus regarding android/ios/bb developpement as i used wm6.5 then switched directly to maemo5 2 years ago.
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Yo. Most Android apps can support multitask on its own UNLESS the developer has puposely disable it.
iOS and Android don't run in Windows style, ie, you can open 2 Mozilla Firefox windows at the same time. Copy and paste work the same as the pc.
So I guess you would have problems in the multiple email opening thing, most phones cannot.
So my suggestion is to keep your N900 as a email phone and change to android or iPhone as your main phone.
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Yo. Most Android apps can support multitask on its own UNLESS the developer has puposely disable it.
iOS and Android don't run in Windows style, ie, you can open 2 Mozilla Firefox windows at the same time. Copy and paste work the same as the pc.
So I guess you would have problems in the multiple email opening thing, most phones cannot.
So my suggestion is to keep your N900 as a email phone and change to android or iPhone as your main phone.
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Having two phones would suck, and I'm sure he would get over the whole multi tasking issue after a week of using the SII
But I have to say, nothing is as impressive as bouncing around from different windows, and different text messages, and different apps as much as you want.
You just can't substitute for it
http ://campusainteractive.files.wordpress. com/2010/02/nokia-n900-multi-tasking.jpg
Goliath27 said:
Having two phones would suck, and I'm sure he would get over the whole multi tasking issue after a week of using the SII
But I have to say, nothing is as impressive as bouncing around from different windows, and different text messages, and different apps as much as you want.
You just can't substitute for it
http ://campusainteractive.files.wordpress. com/2010/02/nokia-n900-multi-tasking.jpg
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Android has true multitasking except for the part of multi running a app.
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lzhikai1994 said:
Android has true multitasking except for the part of multi running a app.
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Ok OK so Android does have "True" multi-tasking
I would like to see it have Multiple Visible applications running at once and accessible between each other. Maybe that's what we should say when we want to see "Real" multitasking, and not just "true" multitasking.
Once again, still satisfied, but we have a craving that we want to fill as well sometimes.
I would like to see android implement this. Webos(palm/hp) had "card style" applications windows and it was epic. That's said, I'm back to android. Just sayin
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Ok OK so Android does have "True" multi-tasking
I would like to see it have Multiple Visible applications running at once and accessible between each other. Maybe that's what we should say when we want to see "Real" multitasking, and not just "true" multitasking.
Once again, still satisfied, but we have a craving that we want to fill as well sometimes.
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Hmm, depends what kind of multitasking you like, the one that actually let's you fully quits apps or one that is fully automated, meaning that you just use it without doing anything and still feel the multitasking, ie you press the home button and it still runs, however you may not notice it, until u use the same app again. However, this means you have to restart every night, to really close the apps, otherwise android will manage for you.
So it means that apps run indefinitely, and when you reopen the app, it will revert to what you did before, you can complete task like scanning eg those with a progress bar and you will see it filling the bar until completion even in the homescreen or other apps, and as I said, unless the developer wants to close the app when you are not using it.
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lzhikai1994 said:
Hmm, depends what kind of multitasking you like, the one that actually let's you fully quits apps or one that is fully automated, meaning that you just use it without doing anything and still feel the multitasking, ie you press the home button and it still runs, however you may not notice it, until u use the same app again. However, this means you have to restart every night, to really close the apps, otherwise android will manage for you.
So it means that apps run indefinitely, and when you reopen the app, it will revert to what you did before, you can complete task like scanning eg those with a progress bar and you will see it filling the bar until completion even in the homescreen or other apps, and as I said, unless the developer wants to close the app when you are not using it.
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That's Androids Multitasking in a Nutshell, completely understand how it works and it does work well I might add. But it's just the extra step of being able to visually locate the running apps and access them. If you look at your Task Killer for example, you see the running tasks correct? But in order to use them, you have to navigate to the app and click it, no matter where it is on your system.
What I would love to see would be more of a Click and Open option to viewing your running tasks. Sort of like a back screen when you Zoom Out of your desktop on android. The same way you can see all of your desktops, you would be able to see all of your running apps and select which one to open, or to close.
Goliath27 said:
That's Androids Multitasking in a Nutshell, completely understand how it works and it does work well I might add. But it's just the extra step of being able to visually locate the running apps and access them. If you look at your Task Killer for example, you see the running tasks correct? But in order to use them, you have to navigate to the app and click it, no matter where it is on your system.
What I would love to see would be more of a Click and Open option to viewing your running tasks. Sort of like a back screen when you Zoom Out of your desktop on android. The same way you can see all of your desktops, you would be able to see all of your running apps and select which one to open, or to close.
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You mean something like this? : http ://developer.android.com/sdk/images/4.0/tasks-lg.png
I guess there is still only one instance of every app though.
codedog said:
You mean something like this? : http ://developer.android.com/sdk/images/4.0/tasks-lg.png
I guess there is still only one instance of every app though.
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That looks very interesting, is that for ICS? Even if it were for only one instance of each app, it would be more than we have now.
I just hate going from one app, to sending a text, to opening that app again. But I am not dying without it, that's for sure
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That's Androids Multitasking in a Nutshell, completely understand how it works and it does work well I might add. But it's just the extra step of being able to visually locate the running apps and access them. If you look at your Task Killer for example, you see the running tasks correct? But in order to use them, you have to navigate to the app and click it, no matter where it is on your system.
What I would love to see would be more of a Click and Open option to viewing your running tasks. Sort of like a back screen when you Zoom Out of your desktop on android. The same way you can see all of your desktops, you would be able to see all of your running apps and select which one to open, or to close.
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Hold the home button to see your last run apps? Other solutions are for example HTC Sense, which put apps you just run into the notifications
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Hold the home button to see your last run apps? Other solutions are for example HTC Sense, which put apps you just run into the notifications
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Yup I just discovered that and it works like a charm. Not a replacement but for now that will satisfy my needs.
Look, I'm not arguing with anyone here, just explaining the idea behind what us N900 users were used to and how useful it would be if implemented in android, this is all.
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Yup I just discovered that and it works like a charm. Not a replacement but for now that will satisfy my needs.
Look, I'm not arguing with anyone here, just explaining the idea behind what us N900 users were used to and how useful it would be if implemented in android, this is all.
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I suppose this is your first android phone? We're having a discussion here no worries. Yeah but if android were to use the window thing, there would be 10-20 Windows everytime. That's where the homescreen comes, just drag all your frequently used apps there and done, the so called window is done
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Andriod multitasks. You can have a ton of apps open at the same time and switch between them. However you can not have more then one instance of the same app running. So while you cant open say gmail and open multiple mails in seperate frames you can still switch between say a web page and mail.
There might be so great mail apps out there that handle mail seperatly, im just not sure which would do it. Bottom line,x the android OS is more then capable of doing what you want. Someone just needs to make or find the app for your needs.
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I suppose this is your first android phone? We're having a discussion here no worries. Yeah but if android were to use the window thing, there would be 10-20 Windows everytime. That's where the homescreen comes, just drag all your frequently used apps there and done, the so called window is done
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This would be my first android phone yes, and I think I came into the android world on a great phone as well. Home screen works but like I said, it's just the ability of having multiple things going on at once, as I will repeat in my reply to this post below vvvvvv
shortlived said:
Andriod multitasks. You can have a ton of apps open at the same time and switch between them. However you can not have more then one instance of the same app running. So while you cant open say gmail and open multiple mails in seperate frames you can still switch between say a web page and mail.
There might be so great mail apps out there that handle mail seperatly, im just not sure which would do it. Bottom line,x the android OS is more then capable of doing what you want. Someone just needs to make or find the app for your needs.
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That's just it, that would be the thing I KNOW android doesn't have yet wish it did. We all know we can't have more than one instance of the same app running at once, that much is clear. But having it would be the part I crave, and I'm sure others as well.
Imagine being able to reference to a previous text with someone else whenever you want to while working on another text with someone different.
Like I said, I UNDERSTAND YOU CAN'T DO IT, I just wish you could!
and I wish people would stop explaining it to me lol, I KNOW, and I'm not asking for anyone to tell me how it works. I'm just saying, it would be nice, this is all!
also, being able to bounce from Xterm to open notepads or texts to anything, now that is how you process info on a phone. We'll never be satisfied, but for now I am.
Thanks for the replies fellas.
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This would be my first android phone yes, and I think I came into the android world on a great phone as well. Home screen works but like I said, it's just the ability of having multiple things going on at once, as I will repeat in my reply to this post below vvvvvv
That's just it, that would be the thing I KNOW android doesn't have yet wish it did. We all know we can't have more than one instance of the same app running at once, that much is clear. But having it would be the part I crave, and I'm sure others as well.
Imagine being able to reference to a previous text with someone else whenever you want to while working on another text with someone different.
Like I said, I UNDERSTAND YOU CAN'T DO IT, I just wish you could!
and I wish people would stop explaining it to me lol, I KNOW, and I'm not asking for anyone to tell me how it works. I'm just saying, it would be nice, this is all!
also, being able to bounce from Xterm to open notepads or texts to anything, now that is how you process info on a phone. We'll never be satisfied, but for now I am.
Thanks for the replies fellas.
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Why do stock apps launch at boot? Like accuweather and yahoo?
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Nobody? Find it stupid that a lot of apps launch and take up ram even though they are never used.
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It's how samsung designed it and if it bugs you just root the phone and freeze the apps with titanium backup
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Nobody? Find it stupid that a lot of apps launch and take up ram even though they are never used.
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this is just how android works. it loads up many apps on boot, and in the background even when you didnt not open them, so that it is faster the next time you need to use said apps. some people hate it, but the bottom line is there's nothing you can do about it except remove those apps from your phone. its just how android is built.
You have problems with RAM ? I use like 10% most of the time.
Free RAM is wasted resource. Stop thinking of things in terms of how Windows work with it crappy resource management system previous to Windows 7.
Well, if the RAM used for these apps could have been used to store apps that I really USE instead of apps I don't us, the useful apps could have been started quicker... (and apps I have used recently would not have been kicked out of memory so fast.
do not worry about that.
just uninstall the apps you never use.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again they need to make the system *really* clever by having it learn what apps you use the most and load the relevant processes rather than stuff which is unlikely to get used.
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snudel said:
do not worry about that.
just uninstall the apps you never use.
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But I am not eager to root...
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But I am not eager to root...
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Why do stock apps launch at boot? Like accuweather and yahoo?
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Captain Obvious speaking here , forgive me: If you have the weather widget on screen , or those live wallpapers that link with weather, your accuweather process needs to run.
And any app that has notification mode (like yahoo) will start up on boot, check what it is supposed to do ("are my notifications on or off?") and then recede to background if there is nothing to do or if the notifications are disabled.
If after boot you press and hold the home button, tap "task manager" then switch to the "ram" tab - does it show that you are using all 800 or so MB of memory with all those background apps? Probably not.
what annoys me is that at bootup it loads up apps i use once a week or so and makes it take ages before the phone is usable. fine, keep it in memory once i've used it but don't load everything at bootup ffs
we really need a msconfig type thing to stop this.
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what annoys me is that at bootup it loads up apps i use once a week or so and makes it take ages before the phone is usable. fine, keep it in memory once i've used it but don't load everything at bootup ffs
we really need a msconfig type thing to stop this.
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this sounds like its your first android phone. you arent the first person to notice this and be unhappy about it. this topic has been beaten to death in the android world. there are utilities you can do to remove broadcast receivers upon startup etc as well as tweak the internal memory algorithm numbers to be more aggressive. but in the end you are going against the OS. its best to remove any app you dont use and dont want starting up like that. and if you need root for that, then this just goes to show why so many people love getting a pure android nexus phone, because this type of nonsense doesnt exist there. its pure barebones elegance, with the OS working precisely as intended. zero samsung bloatware.
tommo123 said:
it take ages before the phone is usable.
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My sgs2 takes about 18seconds to boot to be usable thats good for a smart phone my x10 took about 40 and my old x1 was even longer.
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Captain Obvious speaking here , forgive me: If you have the weather widget on screen , or those live wallpapers that link with weather, your accuweather process needs to run.
And any app that has notification mode (like yahoo) will start up on boot, check what it is supposed to do ("are my notifications on or off?") and then recede to background if there is nothing to do or if the notifications are disabled.
If after boot you press and hold the home button, tap "task manager" then switch to the "ram" tab - does it show that you are using all 800 or so MB of memory with all those background apps? Probably not.
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Well Captain Obvious, I never run or use these apps and widgets... Hehe. That's why I asked originally...
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RogerPodacter said:
this sounds like its your first android phone. you arent the first person to notice this and be unhappy about it. this topic has been beaten to death in the android world. there are utilities you can do to remove broadcast receivers upon startup etc as well as tweak the internal memory algorithm numbers to be more aggressive. but in the end you are going against the OS. its best to remove any app you dont use and dont want starting up like that. and if you need root for that, then this just goes to show why so many people love getting a pure android nexus phone, because this type of nonsense doesnt exist there. its pure barebones elegance, with the OS working precisely as intended. zero samsung bloatware.
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my 2nd actually (desire last time round), rooted both, same annoyances in both - not HTC bloat, or samsung - the fact that i can't have control (key word here) over my phone. i mean if i wanted an OS without options i would have gone for an iphone!
i've tried a few apps that claim to stop apps booting up but they all fail.
as far as removing them, why? a simpler solution would be to stop the damn things running all the time. i don't use photoshop on my PC daily but i'm not going to install/uninstall the thing as i use it. it should just sit there waiting to be ran not doing anything at all until that moment.
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My sgs2 takes about 18seconds to boot to be usable thats good for a smart phone my x10 took about 40 and my old x1 was even longer.
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still a long time when you're looking at the screen wishing it would hurry the hell up. seriously, count it. boot up your phone in front of someone with winmo 7 or an iphone then, after it turns on and you see the first glimpse of your homescreen say - it'll just take another 20 seconds or so. 1...., 2..... 3..... 4..... 5...... etc etc etc.
it's annoying and bad practise from an "instant on" standpoint. i want to turn it on, type in pin, see homescreen and hit a shortcut and have it load. not have to other stuff i wont use that day to load in the background first.
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anyhoo - this is something that annoys me - big time ...obviously
yeah its just something that you're gonna have to live with. its just the way android is designed for better or worse.
If you have root, get an app called Gemini app manager, its free and you can tweak the autorun settings for anything.
That not the OS caching in ram(good) but stuff you dont need running and using cpu etc(bad).
Just be carefull about what you tweak and backup etc.
Surely stock apps don't each that much battery right? my ram is usually 200MB-300MB / 1GB and I'm using a brand new SG2 stock firmware / unrooted and the only widgets i have are pictures/weather/google search.
Even though social hub, digital clock, etc still run in "Running applications" the list is pretty small...
I have bought the SG II and sofar sooner or later I want to get rid of the bloat ware. but for now I like to know whats the best email program.
With a BB all the mail came in one place and you could do anything from there. Is there something like that on a this phone or something I can download.
Also is there a program the lets you organize apps better. Their everywhere!!!
And how do you make the Voice commands work off of the double tap. The rep made it my search button holding it 2 sec. How did he do that?
Also last how do you syn laptop music?
danncas said:
I have bought the SG II and sofar sooner or later I want to get rid of the bloat ware. but for now I like to know whats the best email program.
With a BB all the mail came in one place and you could do anything from there. Is there something like that on a this phone or something I can download.
Also is there a program the lets you organize apps better. Their everywhere!!!
And how do you make the Voice commands work off of the double tap. The rep made it my search button holding it 2 sec. How did he do that?
Also last how do you syn laptop music?
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I'll do what I can to help you out.
Best email program - I only have exp with Gmail & TW email. I like them both
Organize programs - AppZorter
sync music - there are a bunch of software that can do it: Kies, Samsung Media something, Media Monkey. Google it & you'll probably get more results than I listed
here is a list for you buddy on what to remove and not to...
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spr...SENVeXlqUm5vV0E&single=true&gid=0&output=html
to get the apps sorted better i prefer using a different launcher. Launcher pro is the one i use but any of them will put them in alphabetical. Cant believe samsung dont have an option in touchwiz to do that, seems quite a basic omission.
email i just use the stock one but k9 email is also pretty good.
not sure what you mean by the voice commands, you should just tap the home button twice and the voice control screen comes up
Best email: K9 Mail.
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to get the apps sorted better i prefer using a different launcher. Launcher pro is the one i use but any of them will put them in alphabetical. Cant believe samsung dont have an option in touchwiz to do that, seems quite a basic omission.
email i just use the stock one but k9 email is also pretty good.
not sure what you mean by the voice commands, you should just tap the home button twice and the voice control screen comes up
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if you go in themes and apps you can find touchwiz were you can download and does all those features you just mentioned
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if you go in themes and apps you can find touchwiz were you can download and does all those features you just mentioned
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point is the standard everyday user shouldnt have to come to xda and download a modded theme just to get the app drawer showing alphabetical. Its a pretty standard request from everyone and a pretty big omission from samsung.
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point is the standard everyday user shouldnt have to come to xda and download a modded theme just to get the app drawer showing alphabetical. Its a pretty standard request from everyone and a pretty big omission from samsung.
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true and i fully agree with you and the way you sort folders in touchwiz is pretty **** compare to the go launcher..but still i think the update of touchwiz fixes all of that now
I'm mainly wanting the Honeycomb Gmail layout and hopefully a similar layout for reader and Docs (which docs doesnt work at all right now). So my guess is we need to make the app think that we have Honeycomb installed. So is there any way to do this? It would be kind of like a user agent option that browsers have.
It's much more complicated than that, unfortunately. When you spoof the API level, the apps will still call the Honeycomb API's. When it can't find the API's or if it calls an API that has changed, it will force close.
So would there be any easy way to get the Gmail and Reader Honeycomb versions running on the Touchpad?
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So would there be any easy way to get the Gmail and Reader Honeycomb versions running on the Touchpad?
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Waiting for a port of 4.0 is an easy way. Spoofing Honeycomb would cause nothing but problems
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So would there be any easy way to get the Gmail and Reader Honeycomb versions running on the Touchpad?
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What we have here is a failure to communicate...
tbodary said:
So would there be any easy way to get the Gmail and Reader Honeycomb versions running on the Touchpad?
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So in every operating system there are API/Librarys however you want to term it. What they are is a common set of functions or ways of doing something that programs can use so the developer of said program does not have the recreate the wheel EVERY time they make a program. Thats how we have so many apps in the market.
Now Honeycomb and Gingerbread have very different API/Library's from each other. So what that means is if you were to install the gmail app form honeycomb and "trick" it into actually running what will happen is the program will ask the OS "Okay i need this set of instructions so i can execute" and the OS will reply "WHAT THE **** ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT HOMEBOY YOU BE STRAIGHT TRIPPIN BOO" and will promptly shoot that app in the face and will result in a force close.
So the only way to fix that would be to have all the honeycomb api/librarys. We don't actually have a good way of making that into the tablet because the sorce has not been released. All we have is and SDK which helps us make honeycomb apps but not run them on other devices.
hope that helps... i may be a little wrong in explaining but it should be roughly accurate
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So would there be any easy way to get the Gmail and Reader Honeycomb versions running on the Touchpad?
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Trying to run an app made for honeycomb on gingerbread is like asking if you can use the calculator app made for windows 7 in windows xp (or the paint app).
So,what your saying is,if you trick it I to running,sometimes it works,sometimes it crashes,and sometimes its flakey ....
Actually, I'm sure that's NOT what you were trying to say. you were saying it would not work at all,ever,which honestly,I find very hard to believe. In windows,unless your talking windows 16 bit vs 32bit vs 64 bit binaries,your results are dependant on the app. Some programs runfine if you trick them,some don't run at all.
what MAY be the case here though is that there might be something going on with the libraries they are compiled against.However, all I hear are people repeating what they read elsewhere. I agree with the OP,I would like to be able to force the issue. I don't need the OS, OR some guy on the internet telling me that it wont run. If I want to fruit,I'd prefer the OS to do what I tell it an run it,even if it crashes the whole deviceand requires a reboot.
Well, the replies make perfect sense to me ( I used to be a decent programmer)
Alan
alan sh said:
Well, the replies make perfect sense to me ( I used to be a decent programmer)
Alan
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don't get me wrong,I dont think that you can magically make HC apps run on GB by flipping a few bits in an executable. however,experience on other platforms tell me that there my well be some allocations that really are GB apps,with minor tablet optimizations,but marked as HC apps,because a developer just used the GB stuff he was used to instead of anything specific to HC. Wheter or not this is possible on android,I don't know,but its.certainly seen on other platforms. As such,I'd like the ability to try to force an app to run. honestly,who cares if hangs or force closes. its no big deal. I understand why a developer does not want that to happen,as a gracefully warning and refusal to run does not give his app a bad Rep. I however will not be confused. If it hangs,force closes,or even corrupts data,I will understand why it did it. I first. with nanny android telling me its a bad idea to run it,but if.I dont believe her she should step aside and let me grab the hot pan.handle on-the-job stove.
pflatlyne said:
don't get me wrong,I dont think that you can magically make HC apps run on GB by flipping a few bits in an executable. however,experience on other platforms tell me that there my well be some allocations that really are GB apps,with minor tablet optimizations,but marked as HC apps,because a developer just used the GB stuff he was used to instead of anything specific to HC. Wheter or not this is possible on android,I don't know,but its.certainly seen on other platforms. As such,I'd like the ability to try to force an app to run. honestly,who cares if hangs or force closes. its no big deal. I understand why a developer does not want that to happen,as a gracefully warning and refusal to run does not give his app a bad Rep. I however will not be confused. If it hangs,force closes,or even corrupts data,I will understand why it did it. I first. with nanny android telling me its a bad idea to run it,but if.I dont believe her she should step aside and let me grab the hot pan.handle on-the-job stove.
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Its true that other apps may run. But we are not talking about other appswe were talking about the gmail app specifically. Which in android is dependant on many of the other Google apps. So no, in that case even if you could trick the app into thinking it was on HC it would immediately close because it willtry to call the contacts app and so on. So then we get into making a majority of the HC gapps run on gingerbread. No Dev would waste their time on this knowing ICS is only a few months away.
So while many third party apps are ports from GB anyway and would run the first party gapps will not period
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this would be useful for an app that i would like to run....
wizz bar
anybody have any alternatives maybe?
Treello said:
Its true that other apps may run. But we are not talking about other appswe were talking about the gmail app specifically. Which in android is dependant on many of the other Google apps. So no, in that case even if you could trick the app into thinking it was on HC it would immediately close because it willtry to call the contacts app and so on. So then we get into
making a majority of the HC gapps run on gingerbread. No Dev would waste their time on this knowing ICS is only a few months away.
So while many third party apps are ports from GB anyway and would run the first party gapps will not period
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I agree,knowing nothing else,I would expect the Google apps to be real honeycomb apps. I would like to be able to force any app I want to try to run. How does android know what version an app is for?
I believe its on build.prop
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The next best thing is to force apps to work in Landscape, Orientation Control app does this.
Hi I have an old tablet with froyo running Facebook in tablet mode. How can i get fb to show the navigation bar on our touchpad? Fyi, I installed the same apk on my tp that was installed on my old tablet and it will not show the navigation pane on my tp.
whenever someone plays a word, my Note vibrates to let me know they did...how can i turn this irritation off??
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funny you mentioned this... My phone just notified me that I have a friend who just finished a word. If you open words w/ friends at the bottom of the menu you will see a settings button. Hit that and then go to options I set my background notifications to never and turn off the vibration. I think it eats too much of my battery.
Not to hijack the thread, but didn't see any sense in creating another simular one.....
On my iPhone, Words with Friends had a badge showing me how many unplayed games I had waiting....I see no badge on the Android version. Is this something that Zenga has to bake into their app or is it a limitation of Android?
TIA
idk T, but 1 thing that is ridiculous is Android doesn't have the paid version yet..stupid ad's.
ARTAQaf said:
idk T, but 1 thing that is ridiculous is Android doesn't have the paid version yet..stupid ad's.
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Actually they do...You upgrade within the app itself.
1.) Open Words With Friends.
2.) Click on Store - Words with Friends Store button at the top
3.) Click on No More Ads.. Think it was $2.99 worth of coins or something like that
Enjoy!
nice, thanks!
so far though, i am not able to setup an account on the Note, so that i can buy apps. i'll have to start a new thread about that.
Hmmm. Look forward to hearing about that
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My wife and I have i605's. Some apps look different on either phone. The most notable is Facebook. I even took the apk straight from her phone, completely different look. Logged in as her on my phone, didn't change. Logged in as me on her phone, kept her look. That convinces me it is phone specific, but why? We're both on Mean Bean Reloaded v.5. A few other apps have done this in the past. It's bugging the hell out of me. :cyclops:
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My wife and I have i605's. Some apps look different on either phone. The most notable is Facebook. I even took the apk straight from her phone, completely different look. Logged in as her on my phone, didn't change. Logged in as me on her phone, kept her look. That convinces me it is phone specific, but why? We're both on Mean Bean Reloaded v.5. A few other apps have done this in the past. It's bugging the hell out of me. :cyclops:
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Have either of you used Xposed or anything similar to tweak the DPI settings?
It isn't just DPI. I mean like her action bar is at the bottom of the screen, swiping left and right goes to different menus, and even action icons look different. It's really odd
Is it possible our phones are identifying differently to the Play Store? I'm grasping, I know.
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Is it possible our phones are identifying differently to the Play Store? I'm grasping, I know.
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Certainly is a strange phenomenon. The reason I mention the DPI tweaks is because it can cause the app to display itself in tablet mode or something. I'm guessing you'd know if for some reason your phone description was changed in your build.prop. When you go to 'about phone' in the settings do both phones read i605?
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Yeah. I checked it after she got home. I can't think of any good reason. Doesn't hurt anything, just kinda makes me OCD. I HATE when I can't explain something.
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Yeah. I checked it after she got home. I can't think of any good reason. Doesn't hurt anything, just kinda makes me OCD. I HATE when I can't explain something.
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I can certainly understand your frustration. Especially if hers is better somehow.... I would ask if she was maybe using the Facebook beta app, but you said you even took the apk straight from her phone. So that would, to me, as I'm sure was your thought process too, eliminate the possibility of the Play Store recognizing your phones different. I've never used MeanBean to know if there is something within the rom doing it. Strange, sorry nobody seems to have an explanation.
I just checked. Even her desktop layout looks different! Is there some beta program done by them? I've only had an account for a couple years, and don't even care about it. I'll email Facebook and see what they can tell me. It appears that it may be account related, but then I'd think it would change logging in on my phone. It's confusing
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I just checked. Even her desktop layout looks different! Is there some beta program done by them? I've only had an account for a couple years, and don't even care about it. I'll email Facebook and see what they can tell me. It appears that it may be account related, but then I'd think it would change logging in on my phone. It's confusing
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They do have a beta program you can sign up for.
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