Any way to trick apps into thinking they are running in Honeycomb? - TouchPad General

I'm mainly wanting the Honeycomb Gmail layout and hopefully a similar layout for reader and Docs (which docs doesnt work at all right now). So my guess is we need to make the app think that we have Honeycomb installed. So is there any way to do this? It would be kind of like a user agent option that browsers have.

It's much more complicated than that, unfortunately. When you spoof the API level, the apps will still call the Honeycomb API's. When it can't find the API's or if it calls an API that has changed, it will force close.

So would there be any easy way to get the Gmail and Reader Honeycomb versions running on the Touchpad?

tbodary said:
So would there be any easy way to get the Gmail and Reader Honeycomb versions running on the Touchpad?
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Waiting for a port of 4.0 is an easy way. Spoofing Honeycomb would cause nothing but problems
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tbodary said:
So would there be any easy way to get the Gmail and Reader Honeycomb versions running on the Touchpad?
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What we have here is a failure to communicate...

tbodary said:
So would there be any easy way to get the Gmail and Reader Honeycomb versions running on the Touchpad?
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So in every operating system there are API/Librarys however you want to term it. What they are is a common set of functions or ways of doing something that programs can use so the developer of said program does not have the recreate the wheel EVERY time they make a program. Thats how we have so many apps in the market.
Now Honeycomb and Gingerbread have very different API/Library's from each other. So what that means is if you were to install the gmail app form honeycomb and "trick" it into actually running what will happen is the program will ask the OS "Okay i need this set of instructions so i can execute" and the OS will reply "WHAT THE **** ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT HOMEBOY YOU BE STRAIGHT TRIPPIN BOO" and will promptly shoot that app in the face and will result in a force close.
So the only way to fix that would be to have all the honeycomb api/librarys. We don't actually have a good way of making that into the tablet because the sorce has not been released. All we have is and SDK which helps us make honeycomb apps but not run them on other devices.
hope that helps... i may be a little wrong in explaining but it should be roughly accurate

tbodary said:
So would there be any easy way to get the Gmail and Reader Honeycomb versions running on the Touchpad?
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Trying to run an app made for honeycomb on gingerbread is like asking if you can use the calculator app made for windows 7 in windows xp (or the paint app).

So,what your saying is,if you trick it I to running,sometimes it works,sometimes it crashes,and sometimes its flakey ....
Actually, I'm sure that's NOT what you were trying to say. you were saying it would not work at all,ever,which honestly,I find very hard to believe. In windows,unless your talking windows 16 bit vs 32bit vs 64 bit binaries,your results are dependant on the app. Some programs runfine if you trick them,some don't run at all.
what MAY be the case here though is that there might be something going on with the libraries they are compiled against.However, all I hear are people repeating what they read elsewhere. I agree with the OP,I would like to be able to force the issue. I don't need the OS, OR some guy on the internet telling me that it wont run. If I want to fruit,I'd prefer the OS to do what I tell it an run it,even if it crashes the whole deviceand requires a reboot.

Well, the replies make perfect sense to me ( I used to be a decent programmer)
Alan

alan sh said:
Well, the replies make perfect sense to me ( I used to be a decent programmer)
Alan
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don't get me wrong,I dont think that you can magically make HC apps run on GB by flipping a few bits in an executable. however,experience on other platforms tell me that there my well be some allocations that really are GB apps,with minor tablet optimizations,but marked as HC apps,because a developer just used the GB stuff he was used to instead of anything specific to HC. Wheter or not this is possible on android,I don't know,but its.certainly seen on other platforms. As such,I'd like the ability to try to force an app to run. honestly,who cares if hangs or force closes. its no big deal. I understand why a developer does not want that to happen,as a gracefully warning and refusal to run does not give his app a bad Rep. I however will not be confused. If it hangs,force closes,or even corrupts data,I will understand why it did it. I first. with nanny android telling me its a bad idea to run it,but if.I dont believe her she should step aside and let me grab the hot pan.handle on-the-job stove.

pflatlyne said:
don't get me wrong,I dont think that you can magically make HC apps run on GB by flipping a few bits in an executable. however,experience on other platforms tell me that there my well be some allocations that really are GB apps,with minor tablet optimizations,but marked as HC apps,because a developer just used the GB stuff he was used to instead of anything specific to HC. Wheter or not this is possible on android,I don't know,but its.certainly seen on other platforms. As such,I'd like the ability to try to force an app to run. honestly,who cares if hangs or force closes. its no big deal. I understand why a developer does not want that to happen,as a gracefully warning and refusal to run does not give his app a bad Rep. I however will not be confused. If it hangs,force closes,or even corrupts data,I will understand why it did it. I first. with nanny android telling me its a bad idea to run it,but if.I dont believe her she should step aside and let me grab the hot pan.handle on-the-job stove.
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Its true that other apps may run. But we are not talking about other appswe were talking about the gmail app specifically. Which in android is dependant on many of the other Google apps. So no, in that case even if you could trick the app into thinking it was on HC it would immediately close because it willtry to call the contacts app and so on. So then we get into making a majority of the HC gapps run on gingerbread. No Dev would waste their time on this knowing ICS is only a few months away.
So while many third party apps are ports from GB anyway and would run the first party gapps will not period
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this would be useful for an app that i would like to run....
wizz bar
anybody have any alternatives maybe?

Treello said:
Its true that other apps may run. But we are not talking about other appswe were talking about the gmail app specifically. Which in android is dependant on many of the other Google apps. So no, in that case even if you could trick the app into thinking it was on HC it would immediately close because it willtry to call the contacts app and so on. So then we get into
making a majority of the HC gapps run on gingerbread. No Dev would waste their time on this knowing ICS is only a few months away.
So while many third party apps are ports from GB anyway and would run the first party gapps will not period
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I agree,knowing nothing else,I would expect the Google apps to be real honeycomb apps. I would like to be able to force any app I want to try to run. How does android know what version an app is for?

I believe its on build.prop
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The next best thing is to force apps to work in Landscape, Orientation Control app does this.

Hi I have an old tablet with froyo running Facebook in tablet mode. How can i get fb to show the navigation bar on our touchpad? Fyi, I installed the same apk on my tp that was installed on my old tablet and it will not show the navigation pane on my tp.

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[Q] Fix Market Limitations

I've looked around for some possible solutions to give the eris full market capabilities (regardless of compatibility) with no success. Is there any way to modify the build prop (or something else) to allow the market to think the eris is another phone which has unlimited access to the market? I have had no success with the Eris Market Fix App by the way.
Not sure if it helps but in another thread a while back I noticed tenzomonk posted this:
"as for the build.prop... you'd want to find the following line: "ro.build.fingerprint="
i've provided two (2) examples below... first being from an HTC Incredible running a 2.2 ROM... second being from a stock Eris (2.1 ROM).
ro.build.fingerprint=verizon_wwe/inc/inc/inc:2.2/FRF91/231334:user/release-keys (Incredible)
ro.build.fingerprint=verizon/htc_desirec/desirec/desirec:2.1/ERD79/185970:user/release-keys (Eris)"
I don't have the knowledge to help you trick the market into thinking you have a different phone, but why don't you just download the .apk files for the apps you want and sideload them? I guess that isn't a good idea for non-free apps but for free apps it works fine. That's what I did with angry birds before it was available for the Eris. Honestly though, if it doesn't show up on the market for the Eris it probably wont run well if at all. Developers don't want to limit the number of people that can download their app. They generally only do it if there are issues with their app on a particular phone.
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cstone1991 said:
I don't have the knowledge to help you trick the market into thinking you have a different phone, but why don't you just download the .apk files for the apps you want and sideload them?
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Why not think of the big picture and "solve" the core problem ?
Sure, your suggestion will work until then, but do we do this forever ?
tyler1524 said:
I've looked around for some possible solutions...
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Personally, I believe the issue is with the Market itself, especially since Gingerbread was released. People on multiple phones and in turn, multiple ROMs, are having similar issues. This isn't unique to the Eris or any of the ROMs from here.
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Why not think of the big picture and "solve" the core problem ?
Sure, your suggestion will work until then, but do we do this forever ?
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Yeah I guess you would have to sideload any apps you can't get on the market but I don't see the problem with doing that. The VAST majority of apps can be found in the market.
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cstone1991 said:
Yeah I guess you would have to sideload any apps you can't get on the market but I don't see the problem with doing that. The VAST majority of apps can be found in the market.
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Thats the key. Just find the APK. Someone has put it out there you can be sure.

[Q] Can I fool the market about my system version?

I have a tablet with android 2.3.5 on it, but I notice there are lots of apps written for android 3.0 honeycomb. I'd like to play with some of them, but the market tells me the apps are not compatible with my device. And it won't let me even download them.
Is there a way I can make my tablet report to the market that it's running 3.0?
Thanks.
Dan
Even if you did that, the apps still wouldn't work. They would just say "error parsing package" before even installing. If they "happened" to install, they would just force close on start.
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Even if you did that, the apps still wouldn't work. They would just say "error parsing package" before even installing. If they "happened" to install, they would just force close on start.
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I'm going to disagree with this. There are plenty of apps that don't work on certain devices according to the Market yet run perfectly fine on those devices. When it comes to apps made specifically for 3.0, you're more likely to run into problems with functionality, force closes, or screen size. Parsing errors are generally from a problem with the download or package itself, but I could be wrong.
Your options are to change the build.prop to read 3.0 (assuming that's how the Market discovers your build) or to download from another source. I don't know if Amazon does some type of device check or not, but you can try that.
If you decide to try editing your build.prop, back it up first just in case.
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Parsing errors are generally from a problem with the download or package itself, but I could be wrong.
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Yes, this is wrong (in some cases). Parsing package errors occur based on firmware version. If you tried to install an app made for Gingerbread on Froyo, you would get this error. Since the OP wants Honeycomb specific apps to be able to run on Gingerbread, this error is highly likely to occur. Even if the an app worked, then there would be major functionality problems.
I think I follow: if the functionality the app is expecting isn't there, then there *will* be a problem. That makes sense.
However, I have managed to get my hands on a Motorola utility (MotoPrint) from a xoom image I found on the web, that *did* work. Admittedly, it was either going to work or not.
In this instance, it piqued my interest. And made me think that the app creators *may* be, um, overselling the "newness" of their apps by promoting them as "honeycomb." And I just wanna play. XD
I've already tried editing build.prop to no avail tho. So that's why I'm soliciting ideas.
Dan
Try and sideload the apps in question? But as posted some apps that require HC will not run or run correctly on GB.
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However, I have managed to get my hands on a Motorola utility (MotoPrint) from a xoom image I found on the web, that *did* work. Admittedly, it was either going to work or not.
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You already figured it out
Okay then. Thanks for ringing in, everybody.
> You already figured it out. <
I always wonder if there's another way that my noob eyes and brain don't know. So thanks.
Dan
Golleeee. Ah sure am smurt!! XD
Dealing with apk files can be easier than the android market.
And everything is free if you know where to look *cough*
Based on your first post, google will not allow you to buy the apps you want, correct?
That's not a fault of anything you are doing. Google doesn't want you to buy those apps apparently. That doesn't mean you can't "get" them.
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Based on your first post, google will not allow you to buy the apps you want, correct?
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All of the apps I have been viewing on Tablified are Honeycomb. Many are free. There are few nice ideas that I'd simply like to see if they work on my VeganGinger G-tab.
Google simply says the app is incompatible with my tablet, and greys out the install button.
So far, this is the most annoying thing in Android to me. Dammit, just let me try it. I know I may not get *all* the functionality. I'd just like to see if it's a tolerable thing for me. Without needing to jump thru hoops.
Dan
Welcome to fragmentation.
Heres a legal source for free apks.
http://androiddev.orkitra.com/download/apps/
On a sidenote I use a Galaxy S Captivate with 2.2 froyo.
There are some apps (games mostly that I have encountered) that will not run at all on less than android 2.3.x regardless of where you get the apk from.
So I can only assume the same is true with 2.3.x/3.x
Thanks! I appreciate it!

[Q] Noob question about Android multitasking

Hi guys, ive looked all around the web trying to find a solution but i cant say i found something yet so here it is.
I have a Nokia N900 right now and as much as i like it, its getting old, so im slowly looking for a new phone.
I feel like i might have been spoiled by the N900 multitasking and i want to know if my requirement for my new are possible to have.
So here it is: Is it possible to multitask with multiple instances of some applications? Really its only for email and sms, so i can for example copy text from one email, paste it in another one that is also open at the same time and can switch back and forth between them. In other words, can i have multiple sms/email conversations opened at the same time (one conversation with bob, one with jack, one with dave...) i often have more than 10-15 of them open at the same time on my n900 and if there would be only one reason for me to keep my phone it would be that.
I looked for multitasking apps with grid view hoping it would do that but from what i see you can only have one of those apps running at once anyway and it might seem crazy but for the number of time I switch between conversations on my n900, like i would using WLM for example, this could be a major dealbreaker for me if its not possible.
I'm sorry if it looks like a stupid question or something but ive completely missed the bus regarding android/ios/bb developpement as i used wm6.5 then switched directly to maemo5 2 years ago.
no one, really?
I don't think it works this way on Android, though you just might be able to find an app that does this.
thanks for the input
Sup Neo! I too went from the N900 to a GSII and I find myself not regretting it at all. There is no TRUE multitasking like the N900, at all from what I have found.
I'm not sure if any apps have been made available for such multi tasking, but I don't think anyone here who doesn't have N900 experience will understand what we mean.
Now it just needs an N900 writer to make something happen for android. Otherwise, I do NOT regret switching over, I absolutely love the speed and freedom of my new phone. The N900 was killing me on simple tasks like sending and receiving MMS, or connecting to the internet without destroying my battery life. No regrets.
neoblast said:
Hi guys, ive looked all around the web trying to find a solution but i cant say i found something yet so here it is.
I have a Nokia N900 right now and as much as i like it, its getting old, so im slowly looking for a new phone.
I feel like i might have been spoiled by the N900 multitasking and i want to know if my requirement for my new are possible to have.
So here it is: Is it possible to multitask with multiple instances of some applications? Really its only for email and sms, so i can for example copy text from one email, paste it in another one that is also open at the same time and can switch back and forth between them. In other words, can i have multiple sms/email conversations opened at the same time (one conversation with bob, one with jack, one with dave...) i often have more than 10-15 of them open at the same time on my n900 and if there would be only one reason for me to keep my phone it would be that.
I looked for multitasking apps with grid view hoping it would do that but from what i see you can only have one of those apps running at once anyway and it might seem crazy but for the number of time I switch between conversations on my n900, like i would using WLM for example, this could be a major dealbreaker for me if its not possible.
I'm sorry if it looks like a stupid question or something but ive completely missed the bus regarding android/ios/bb developpement as i used wm6.5 then switched directly to maemo5 2 years ago.
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Yo. Most Android apps can support multitask on its own UNLESS the developer has puposely disable it.
iOS and Android don't run in Windows style, ie, you can open 2 Mozilla Firefox windows at the same time. Copy and paste work the same as the pc.
So I guess you would have problems in the multiple email opening thing, most phones cannot.
So my suggestion is to keep your N900 as a email phone and change to android or iPhone as your main phone.
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lzhikai1994 said:
Yo. Most Android apps can support multitask on its own UNLESS the developer has puposely disable it.
iOS and Android don't run in Windows style, ie, you can open 2 Mozilla Firefox windows at the same time. Copy and paste work the same as the pc.
So I guess you would have problems in the multiple email opening thing, most phones cannot.
So my suggestion is to keep your N900 as a email phone and change to android or iPhone as your main phone.
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Having two phones would suck, and I'm sure he would get over the whole multi tasking issue after a week of using the SII
But I have to say, nothing is as impressive as bouncing around from different windows, and different text messages, and different apps as much as you want.
You just can't substitute for it
http ://campusainteractive.files.wordpress. com/2010/02/nokia-n900-multi-tasking.jpg
Goliath27 said:
Having two phones would suck, and I'm sure he would get over the whole multi tasking issue after a week of using the SII
But I have to say, nothing is as impressive as bouncing around from different windows, and different text messages, and different apps as much as you want.
You just can't substitute for it
http ://campusainteractive.files.wordpress. com/2010/02/nokia-n900-multi-tasking.jpg
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Android has true multitasking except for the part of multi running a app.
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lzhikai1994 said:
Android has true multitasking except for the part of multi running a app.
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Ok OK so Android does have "True" multi-tasking
I would like to see it have Multiple Visible applications running at once and accessible between each other. Maybe that's what we should say when we want to see "Real" multitasking, and not just "true" multitasking.
Once again, still satisfied, but we have a craving that we want to fill as well sometimes.
I would like to see android implement this. Webos(palm/hp) had "card style" applications windows and it was epic. That's said, I'm back to android. Just sayin
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Goliath27 said:
Ok OK so Android does have "True" multi-tasking
I would like to see it have Multiple Visible applications running at once and accessible between each other. Maybe that's what we should say when we want to see "Real" multitasking, and not just "true" multitasking.
Once again, still satisfied, but we have a craving that we want to fill as well sometimes.
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Hmm, depends what kind of multitasking you like, the one that actually let's you fully quits apps or one that is fully automated, meaning that you just use it without doing anything and still feel the multitasking, ie you press the home button and it still runs, however you may not notice it, until u use the same app again. However, this means you have to restart every night, to really close the apps, otherwise android will manage for you.
So it means that apps run indefinitely, and when you reopen the app, it will revert to what you did before, you can complete task like scanning eg those with a progress bar and you will see it filling the bar until completion even in the homescreen or other apps, and as I said, unless the developer wants to close the app when you are not using it.
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lzhikai1994 said:
Hmm, depends what kind of multitasking you like, the one that actually let's you fully quits apps or one that is fully automated, meaning that you just use it without doing anything and still feel the multitasking, ie you press the home button and it still runs, however you may not notice it, until u use the same app again. However, this means you have to restart every night, to really close the apps, otherwise android will manage for you.
So it means that apps run indefinitely, and when you reopen the app, it will revert to what you did before, you can complete task like scanning eg those with a progress bar and you will see it filling the bar until completion even in the homescreen or other apps, and as I said, unless the developer wants to close the app when you are not using it.
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That's Androids Multitasking in a Nutshell, completely understand how it works and it does work well I might add. But it's just the extra step of being able to visually locate the running apps and access them. If you look at your Task Killer for example, you see the running tasks correct? But in order to use them, you have to navigate to the app and click it, no matter where it is on your system.
What I would love to see would be more of a Click and Open option to viewing your running tasks. Sort of like a back screen when you Zoom Out of your desktop on android. The same way you can see all of your desktops, you would be able to see all of your running apps and select which one to open, or to close.
Goliath27 said:
That's Androids Multitasking in a Nutshell, completely understand how it works and it does work well I might add. But it's just the extra step of being able to visually locate the running apps and access them. If you look at your Task Killer for example, you see the running tasks correct? But in order to use them, you have to navigate to the app and click it, no matter where it is on your system.
What I would love to see would be more of a Click and Open option to viewing your running tasks. Sort of like a back screen when you Zoom Out of your desktop on android. The same way you can see all of your desktops, you would be able to see all of your running apps and select which one to open, or to close.
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You mean something like this? : http ://developer.android.com/sdk/images/4.0/tasks-lg.png
I guess there is still only one instance of every app though.
codedog said:
You mean something like this? : http ://developer.android.com/sdk/images/4.0/tasks-lg.png
I guess there is still only one instance of every app though.
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That looks very interesting, is that for ICS? Even if it were for only one instance of each app, it would be more than we have now.
I just hate going from one app, to sending a text, to opening that app again. But I am not dying without it, that's for sure
Goliath27 said:
That's Androids Multitasking in a Nutshell, completely understand how it works and it does work well I might add. But it's just the extra step of being able to visually locate the running apps and access them. If you look at your Task Killer for example, you see the running tasks correct? But in order to use them, you have to navigate to the app and click it, no matter where it is on your system.
What I would love to see would be more of a Click and Open option to viewing your running tasks. Sort of like a back screen when you Zoom Out of your desktop on android. The same way you can see all of your desktops, you would be able to see all of your running apps and select which one to open, or to close.
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Hold the home button to see your last run apps? Other solutions are for example HTC Sense, which put apps you just run into the notifications
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lzhikai1994 said:
Hold the home button to see your last run apps? Other solutions are for example HTC Sense, which put apps you just run into the notifications
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Yup I just discovered that and it works like a charm. Not a replacement but for now that will satisfy my needs.
Look, I'm not arguing with anyone here, just explaining the idea behind what us N900 users were used to and how useful it would be if implemented in android, this is all.
Goliath27 said:
Yup I just discovered that and it works like a charm. Not a replacement but for now that will satisfy my needs.
Look, I'm not arguing with anyone here, just explaining the idea behind what us N900 users were used to and how useful it would be if implemented in android, this is all.
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I suppose this is your first android phone? We're having a discussion here no worries. Yeah but if android were to use the window thing, there would be 10-20 Windows everytime. That's where the homescreen comes, just drag all your frequently used apps there and done, the so called window is done
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Andriod multitasks. You can have a ton of apps open at the same time and switch between them. However you can not have more then one instance of the same app running. So while you cant open say gmail and open multiple mails in seperate frames you can still switch between say a web page and mail.
There might be so great mail apps out there that handle mail seperatly, im just not sure which would do it. Bottom line,x the android OS is more then capable of doing what you want. Someone just needs to make or find the app for your needs.
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lzhikai1994 said:
I suppose this is your first android phone? We're having a discussion here no worries. Yeah but if android were to use the window thing, there would be 10-20 Windows everytime. That's where the homescreen comes, just drag all your frequently used apps there and done, the so called window is done
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This would be my first android phone yes, and I think I came into the android world on a great phone as well. Home screen works but like I said, it's just the ability of having multiple things going on at once, as I will repeat in my reply to this post below vvvvvv
shortlived said:
Andriod multitasks. You can have a ton of apps open at the same time and switch between them. However you can not have more then one instance of the same app running. So while you cant open say gmail and open multiple mails in seperate frames you can still switch between say a web page and mail.
There might be so great mail apps out there that handle mail seperatly, im just not sure which would do it. Bottom line,x the android OS is more then capable of doing what you want. Someone just needs to make or find the app for your needs.
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That's just it, that would be the thing I KNOW android doesn't have yet wish it did. We all know we can't have more than one instance of the same app running at once, that much is clear. But having it would be the part I crave, and I'm sure others as well.
Imagine being able to reference to a previous text with someone else whenever you want to while working on another text with someone different.
Like I said, I UNDERSTAND YOU CAN'T DO IT, I just wish you could!
and I wish people would stop explaining it to me lol, I KNOW, and I'm not asking for anyone to tell me how it works. I'm just saying, it would be nice, this is all!
also, being able to bounce from Xterm to open notepads or texts to anything, now that is how you process info on a phone. We'll never be satisfied, but for now I am.
Thanks for the replies fellas.
Goliath27 said:
This would be my first android phone yes, and I think I came into the android world on a great phone as well. Home screen works but like I said, it's just the ability of having multiple things going on at once, as I will repeat in my reply to this post below vvvvvv
That's just it, that would be the thing I KNOW android doesn't have yet wish it did. We all know we can't have more than one instance of the same app running at once, that much is clear. But having it would be the part I crave, and I'm sure others as well.
Imagine being able to reference to a previous text with someone else whenever you want to while working on another text with someone different.
Like I said, I UNDERSTAND YOU CAN'T DO IT, I just wish you could!
and I wish people would stop explaining it to me lol, I KNOW, and I'm not asking for anyone to tell me how it works. I'm just saying, it would be nice, this is all!
also, being able to bounce from Xterm to open notepads or texts to anything, now that is how you process info on a phone. We'll never be satisfied, but for now I am.
Thanks for the replies fellas.
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Chill man, ease on the caps

How to you prevent google play upgrade?

I have the apk for the 3.4.4 market. I froze the market updater but when I install the Market apk within 5 minutes it updates to play. Is there a way to prevent the upgrade?
What's the big deal with preventing the update? Looks like exactly the same market with a name change to me. Just wondering what I'm missing and in no way trying to be a jerk.
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You dont want to stop the update because if you do, you will not be able to get apps or update current apps with the old market.
Anything else that relies on the newer market will fail as well. I doubt you could stop it anyway..
Install an older version of the Market and use Titanium Backup to freeze the Market Updater...but there's no good reason to not update.
The new market is great! LOL, it is pretty much the same. The only difference if you have a tablet and that allowed you to purches music through the app. Again looks pretty much the same. New name
VoodooGTR said:
The new market is great! LOL, it is pretty much the same. The only difference if you have a tablet and that allowed you to purches music through the app. Again looks pretty much the same. New name
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personally the name change is annoying as all hell, google quit trying to program your brand name in my brain, when i want to buy and app or something i want to go to the market or to the store, not go to the google and pick up a new app.
every-time i'm in a rush trying to pull something from the app market i can't find the bloody icon because i'm looking for the market or in the old location on my app drawer, minor change i know but i have caught myself cussing at google when i needed to re-d/l my gps app after it crashed during a trip i as on a few days ago.
any chance of renaming the new app back to market without root?
Just use a launcher and if already do, just change the name duh..lol that's what I did ....
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I also would like to learn how to get around using Play. The new terms seem to allow Google to read my sms messages and record the message routing. I don't think my correspondents would appreciate having their thoughts being part of Google's repertoire.
bemyax said:
I also would like to learn how to get around using Play. The new terms seem to allow Google to read my sms messages and record the message routing.
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What conspiracy theorist cooked that up?
The only way to get around using Google Play is to not use android. What you're asking is the equivalent of saying you want to use an iDevice without the app store.
l7777 said:
What conspiracy theorist cooked that up?
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Here you go. Straight from the Dept. of Justice
www [dot] eff.org/deeplinks/2012/05/easier-gov-access-cell-phone-records-cripples-privacy
Looks like Ill be going back to a simple phone as I agree with the previous poster... Google is requiring a full disclosure of everything you do. Not just GPS tracking...
Call me what you will...
You can download apps from other sites like blackmart
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Memory needs > any update
I have a very good reason for not wanting auto-upgrades. Radio Shack misled me about the HTC Wildfire S and now I've got jack for memory. I have four apps installed, use only the native message app, and I'm lucky to have 25mb free. Anything less than that and the phone works as well as the Pony Express does today.
FWIW, Tandybot told me I could always install apps on the SD card. In theory, yes, but so few app devs code apps to work in that manner. Lesson learned.
kite edit: SNIP! No need for that kind of attitude around here, I'm afraid.
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P.S. This site is unfriendly to the Nth. Registration took six or seven attempts. Captcha to write a post. I doubt I'll be back.
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You will be missed.
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good reason
freedom don't work on updated market

[Q] Stop Making Update Reset Default App

I'm tired of Android asking to set the default app for some actions like opening a link, writing an sms and so on after EVERY update of the default app.. Why on every update of Chrome BETA I have to set again that it is my deafult browser?
Each update of the keyboard is even worse, I have also to put the check in settings to enable the keyboard.. imho it's boring
I found other people talking about this on the net like:
http://android.stackexchange.com/qu...-android-remember-default-apps-after-upgrades
http://forums.androidcentral.com/sp...why-do-updates-make-me-reset-default-app.html
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2541119
Does someone of you agree with me?
I also found this issue, and I voted it, do you think is a good idea to vote this issue?? Is there a way to give this issue (or bug imho) a wide appeal??
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=26111
Every operating system does the same thing, you just don't realise it. Android has space constraints, so instead of adding to a database that would grow and grow, it rebuilds it when apps are installed and removed. Believe me, this is better than the old way of Android where apps that were no longer installed were set as the default and lots of errors would happen.
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I think that there would be a difference between installing/uninstalling and updating an app that I already use.. why ask me again if I want to use Chrome Beta as the default browser if I didn't installed a new browser, I didn't uninstalled Chrome Beta but I only updated it ? total nonsense, imho
elcasa said:
I think that there would be a difference between installing/uninstalling and updating an app that I already use.. why ask me again if I want to use Chrome Beta as the default browser if I didn't installed a new browser, I didn't uninstalled Chrome Beta but I only updated it ? total nonsense, imho
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You also have to remember that when you update an app it gives you a new apk. Which means all permissions for the old apk are now gone and you have to give it to the new one. Just something you will learn to live with.
I'm not saying that it's a bad implementation because it is a problem easy to solve or something else.. I'm just saying that from the user point of view, and I'm a user, losing the default app preference each update it's boring and I'm sure that this situation could have been handled in a different way, allowing me to not repeat the same action like a robot... like setting the app that visualize my word documents, pdf, photos, my favorite borwser, messaging app and so on
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I'm not saying that it's a bad implementation because it is a problem easy to solve or something else.. I'm just saying that from the user point of view, and I'm a user, losing the default app preference each update it's boring and I'm sure that this situation could have been handled in a different way, allowing me to not repeat the same action like a robot... like setting the app that visualize my word documents, pdf, photos, my favorite borwser, messaging app and so on
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It is far better then the way it used to be and with the way android handles security it is the way it has to be. Trust me. You must be new to android as you would not find it that bad compared to the old way as talked about above.

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