One big resource hog is the facebook app. The 1.7.2 version runs persistently and eats as much as 40mb of ram in the background.
Complete bull****.
So if you have that version of facebook, uninstall and use the 1.6.4 version instead. Push notifications still works yet it is not a resource hungry *****.
Just to share.
thx for sharing to us
consegregate said:
One big resource hog is the facebook app. The 1.7.2 version runs persistently and eats as much as 40mb of ram in the background.
Complete bull****.
So if you have that version of facebook, uninstall and use the 1.6.4 version instead. Push notifications still works yet it is not a resource hungry *****.
Just to share.
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Couldn't agree more. Even with compcache RAM @ 18% it still uses a huge chunk of memory.
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consegregate said:
One big resource hog is the facebook app. The 1.7.2 version runs persistently and eats as much as 40mb of ram in the background.
Complete bull****.
So if you have that version of facebook, uninstall and use the 1.6.4 version instead. Push notifications still works yet it is not a resource hungry *****.
Just to share.
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Another point to share.
Google Maps' Networklocation service. Don't get deceived by its apparently small amount of ram usage. Apparently, this bugger makes performance of phone very different when its active and when its on.
If you have been annoyed by it before, you will know that it is immortal. You can't kill in task manager. However force stopping Google Maps in Applications works. A more useful way is to install autostarts and prevent it from being triggered to start by specific events. Manually, force stopping works just as fine.
consegregate said:
One big resource hog is the facebook app. The 1.7.2 version runs persistently and eats as much as 40mb of ram in the background.
Complete bull****.
So if you have that version of facebook, uninstall and use the 1.6.4 version instead. Push notifications still works yet it is not a resource hungry *****.
Just to share.
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or just go Friendcaster PRO if you have the money. every penny is worth it.
diospada11 said:
or just go Friendcaster PRO if you have the money. every penny is worth it.
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It can't view photos, and as you know facebook is full of photo shares nowadays.
consegregate said:
One big resource hog is the facebook app. The 1.7.2 version runs persistently and eats as much as 40mb of ram in the background.
Complete bull****.
So if you have that version of facebook, uninstall and use the 1.6.4 version instead. Push notifications still works yet it is not a resource hungry *****.
Just to share.
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Thanks a lot! I was using version 1.5.x because of the same thing. But for some reason it wouldn't let me log on anymore and I was curious as to what version still works perfectly besides that one.
By the way, is there a way to get back the whole "Via Android" thing to appear every time you post something from your device? Or is that a facebook thing?
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Thanks a lot! I was using version 1.5.x because of the same thing. But for some reason it wouldn't let me log on anymore and I was curious as to what version still works perfectly besides that one.
By the way, is there a way to get back the whole "Via Android" thing to appear every time you post something from your device? Or is that a facebook thing?
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Use status via+. It has many options like via android, iphone 3,4,5, samsung galaxy ace, galaxy SII etc....etc..
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Tricked many friends I could surf the net with a calculator using that app. But it's just for status updates, facebook has problems with displaying it to be android.
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Tricked many friends I could surf the net with a calculator using that app. But it's just for status updates, facebook has problems with displaying it to be android.
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D best is 'via iphone 5'. Fooled many ppl. Told dem my frnd got d phone frm US. Lmfao.... & dey believed. Dumb... hahaha.....
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Just out of interested. I have like 545MB free with hardly anything open, is that okay?
564mb free when idle most of the time which is more than enough.
i got about 560MB free. i think its OK..
you can try removing services that are not being used or needed.
837mb (LightningROM 1.5)
DjLegolas said:
i got about 560MB free. i think its OK..
you can try removing services that are not being used or needed.
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What sort of things are running when youa re getting that? Live wallpaper?
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not possible thats the amount of RAM available after the Android System usage. Everyone has that. Using a system tool such as Android assistant to find the actual free RAM after all the background services , etc
unless i am wrong and lightening ROM is a miracle
xinfinityoO said:
not possible thats the amount of RAM available after the Android System usage. Everyone has that. Using a system tool such as Android assistant to find the actual free RAM after all the background services , etc
unless i am wrong and lightening ROM is a miracle
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My fault. This is a total RAM.
http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/5963/sc20110622012606.jpg
610-615MB free, could get more but there is some programs that is running when in idle, VillainROM 1.4 "LITE"
347 MB free on stock KE5
About 540 RAM available. Got a problem with my browser though, it isn't RAM-related though. Something wrong with the browser in VillainROM 1.4
Why do stock apps launch at boot? Like accuweather and yahoo?
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Nobody? Find it stupid that a lot of apps launch and take up ram even though they are never used.
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It's how samsung designed it and if it bugs you just root the phone and freeze the apps with titanium backup
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Nobody? Find it stupid that a lot of apps launch and take up ram even though they are never used.
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this is just how android works. it loads up many apps on boot, and in the background even when you didnt not open them, so that it is faster the next time you need to use said apps. some people hate it, but the bottom line is there's nothing you can do about it except remove those apps from your phone. its just how android is built.
You have problems with RAM ? I use like 10% most of the time.
Free RAM is wasted resource. Stop thinking of things in terms of how Windows work with it crappy resource management system previous to Windows 7.
Well, if the RAM used for these apps could have been used to store apps that I really USE instead of apps I don't us, the useful apps could have been started quicker... (and apps I have used recently would not have been kicked out of memory so fast.
do not worry about that.
just uninstall the apps you never use.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again they need to make the system *really* clever by having it learn what apps you use the most and load the relevant processes rather than stuff which is unlikely to get used.
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snudel said:
do not worry about that.
just uninstall the apps you never use.
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But I am not eager to root...
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But I am not eager to root...
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Then you will have to live with it
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Why do stock apps launch at boot? Like accuweather and yahoo?
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Captain Obvious speaking here , forgive me: If you have the weather widget on screen , or those live wallpapers that link with weather, your accuweather process needs to run.
And any app that has notification mode (like yahoo) will start up on boot, check what it is supposed to do ("are my notifications on or off?") and then recede to background if there is nothing to do or if the notifications are disabled.
If after boot you press and hold the home button, tap "task manager" then switch to the "ram" tab - does it show that you are using all 800 or so MB of memory with all those background apps? Probably not.
what annoys me is that at bootup it loads up apps i use once a week or so and makes it take ages before the phone is usable. fine, keep it in memory once i've used it but don't load everything at bootup ffs
we really need a msconfig type thing to stop this.
tommo123 said:
what annoys me is that at bootup it loads up apps i use once a week or so and makes it take ages before the phone is usable. fine, keep it in memory once i've used it but don't load everything at bootup ffs
we really need a msconfig type thing to stop this.
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this sounds like its your first android phone. you arent the first person to notice this and be unhappy about it. this topic has been beaten to death in the android world. there are utilities you can do to remove broadcast receivers upon startup etc as well as tweak the internal memory algorithm numbers to be more aggressive. but in the end you are going against the OS. its best to remove any app you dont use and dont want starting up like that. and if you need root for that, then this just goes to show why so many people love getting a pure android nexus phone, because this type of nonsense doesnt exist there. its pure barebones elegance, with the OS working precisely as intended. zero samsung bloatware.
tommo123 said:
it take ages before the phone is usable.
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My sgs2 takes about 18seconds to boot to be usable thats good for a smart phone my x10 took about 40 and my old x1 was even longer.
kreoXDA said:
Captain Obvious speaking here , forgive me: If you have the weather widget on screen , or those live wallpapers that link with weather, your accuweather process needs to run.
And any app that has notification mode (like yahoo) will start up on boot, check what it is supposed to do ("are my notifications on or off?") and then recede to background if there is nothing to do or if the notifications are disabled.
If after boot you press and hold the home button, tap "task manager" then switch to the "ram" tab - does it show that you are using all 800 or so MB of memory with all those background apps? Probably not.
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Well Captain Obvious, I never run or use these apps and widgets... Hehe. That's why I asked originally...
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RogerPodacter said:
this sounds like its your first android phone. you arent the first person to notice this and be unhappy about it. this topic has been beaten to death in the android world. there are utilities you can do to remove broadcast receivers upon startup etc as well as tweak the internal memory algorithm numbers to be more aggressive. but in the end you are going against the OS. its best to remove any app you dont use and dont want starting up like that. and if you need root for that, then this just goes to show why so many people love getting a pure android nexus phone, because this type of nonsense doesnt exist there. its pure barebones elegance, with the OS working precisely as intended. zero samsung bloatware.
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my 2nd actually (desire last time round), rooted both, same annoyances in both - not HTC bloat, or samsung - the fact that i can't have control (key word here) over my phone. i mean if i wanted an OS without options i would have gone for an iphone!
i've tried a few apps that claim to stop apps booting up but they all fail.
as far as removing them, why? a simpler solution would be to stop the damn things running all the time. i don't use photoshop on my PC daily but i'm not going to install/uninstall the thing as i use it. it should just sit there waiting to be ran not doing anything at all until that moment.
silentbob59 said:
My sgs2 takes about 18seconds to boot to be usable thats good for a smart phone my x10 took about 40 and my old x1 was even longer.
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still a long time when you're looking at the screen wishing it would hurry the hell up. seriously, count it. boot up your phone in front of someone with winmo 7 or an iphone then, after it turns on and you see the first glimpse of your homescreen say - it'll just take another 20 seconds or so. 1...., 2..... 3..... 4..... 5...... etc etc etc.
it's annoying and bad practise from an "instant on" standpoint. i want to turn it on, type in pin, see homescreen and hit a shortcut and have it load. not have to other stuff i wont use that day to load in the background first.
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anyhoo - this is something that annoys me - big time ...obviously
yeah its just something that you're gonna have to live with. its just the way android is designed for better or worse.
If you have root, get an app called Gemini app manager, its free and you can tweak the autorun settings for anything.
That not the OS caching in ram(good) but stuff you dont need running and using cpu etc(bad).
Just be carefull about what you tweak and backup etc.
Surely stock apps don't each that much battery right? my ram is usually 200MB-300MB / 1GB and I'm using a brand new SG2 stock firmware / unrooted and the only widgets i have are pictures/weather/google search.
Even though social hub, digital clock, etc still run in "Running applications" the list is pretty small...
TuneIn Radio
FaceBook
Just 2 of the many Apps that run background processes without my permission and offer no options to stop them loading on boot.
Why TuneIn Radio needs a background process is beyond me. But its a blatant abuse of a weakness in android.
Is there a way to stop these processes for good? or is uninstall the only option?
Don't use bad apps. And learn how the system works.
Download 'All-In-One' toolbox, it will allow you to disable startup processes, some advice you might actually find helpful...
giftedgiggsy11 said:
Download 'All-In-One' toolbox, it will allow you to disable startup processes, some advice you might actually find helpful...
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Thanks!
giftedgiggsy11 said:
Download 'All-In-One' toolbox, it will allow you to disable startup processes, some advice you might actually find helpful...
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Indeed great toolbox.
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ivan1real said:
Don't use bad apps. And learn how the system works.
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So what if they run in the background? ram is there to be used.
DramatikBeats said:
So what if they run in the background? ram is there to be used.
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Its not using Ram. Its using CPU and power and monitoring what i do on my phone.
Cashed processes use RAM.
Have you got anymore detail about the app TuneIn Radio?
I've had this installed for a number of weeks now and was unaware or background processes being run.
What type of processes are these and what do they do?
I've had a quick look at the permissions the app has and the following is all I can find:
System Tools - automatically start at boot
Why would it need to start at boot?
I love tune in radio i bought the app it's great i use toolbox to block it off when i am not using it.. FB i couldn't care less for lol..
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Its not using Ram. Its using CPU and power and monitoring what i do on my phone.
Cashed processes use RAM.
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Really? Any process that is running uses RAM. Please understand how a system works before looking for a reason to fix something that may not be broken.
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Really? Any process that is running uses RAM. Please understand how a system works before looking for a reason to fix something that may not be broken.
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i know it uses ram. It also uses CPU and battery too if its a live process. I meant that it wasnt cached in ram and harmless.
Please dont talk to me like im stupid i have been building computer systems for over 10 years.
irzero said:
i know it uses ram. It also uses CPU and battery too if its a live process. I meant that it wasnt cashed in ram and harmless.
Dont talk to me like im stupid i have been building computer systems for over 10 years.
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Lol. How do you know its a live process. I have Facebook installed and the only thing its doing is running as a service to provide push notifications. I have system panel pro running and Facebooks average CPU consumption is actually under 1%. Can't say the same for tune-in radio
Facebook uses a service for notifications and the messenger i guess, about tunein, don't know. But that's how android works, if you want an app that pushes notifications which are not directly covered within the system itself, you need a service, otherwise there would run the whole app all of the time which needs even more resources (btw, that's how ios handles it).
Simple solution, use the already told or just freeze the app with titanium or disable notifications if possible.
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Tectas said:
Facebook uses a service for notifications and the messenger i guess, about tunein, don't know. But that's how android works, if you want an app that pushes notifications which are not directly covered within the system itself, you need a service, otherwise there would run the whole app all of the time which needs even more resources (btw, that's how ios handles it).
Simple solution, use the already told or just freeze the app with titanium or disable notifications if possible.
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i have uninstalled Facebook anyway i found 3 active processes and even one in the System processes! Its basically just malware that app.
Now Tunein is becoming a hassle. even with the startup blocked it keeps booting up!
irzero said:
i have uninstalled Facebook anyway i found 3 active processes and even one in the System processes! Its basically just malware that app.
Now Tunein is becoming a hassle. even with the startup blocked it keeps booting up!
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LOL
About Facebook, there is a app called sns if I'm not wrong, delete or freeze it with titanium, is just a Facebook interface.
Tunein, check if there isn't an additional service, sometimes there are bad apps where the service starts the app and the app starts the service.
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Tectas said:
About Facebook, there is a app called sns if I'm not wrong, delete or freeze it with titanium, is just a Facebook interface.
Tunein, check if there isn't an additional service, sometimes there are bad apps where the service starts the app and the app starts the service.
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i have uninstalled them now because i am unhappy in the way they run on my system. anything that behaves this way is obviously trying very hard to stay active on my system for a reason.
I guess they are data mining for the adverts that support the app. Not on my phone they dont.
irzero said:
i know it uses ram. It also uses CPU and battery too if its a live process. I meant that it wasnt cashed in ram and harmless.
Please dont talk to me like im stupid i have been building computer systems for over 10 years.
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We can only form our opinion on that from the content of your posts.
"It doesn't use RAM." is what you said, which you now deny.
You don't know the difference between cash and cache.
You don't know how to use capital letters or apostrophes.
Not looking good so far
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irzero said:
i know it uses ram. It also uses CPU and battery too if its a live process. I meant that it wasnt cashed in ram and harmless.
Please dont talk to me like im stupid i have been building computer systems for over 10 years.
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Just because you build computers doesn't mean you understand how they intertwine with the software. Especially since most computers have Windows installed on them. The RAM and caching process is much different compared to Linux, which Android is based off of. Thank you, have a nice day!
irzero said:
i have uninstalled them now because i am unhappy in the way they run on my system. anything that behaves this way is obviously trying very hard to stay active on my system for a reason.
I guess they are data mining for the adverts that support the app. Not on my phone they dont.
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Android uses a strict permission policy, you can view every permission an app has before you download it and no app can gather data without given permissions.
I don't know and to be honest i don't care which permissions those 2 apps have, because i don't use them, but i guess at least tunein radio has no access to private data.
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Whatever rom u use u always have the ram being killed with background apps further lagging ur phone , this app is magic, fixes all that, i have loads of apps now/ greenified and voila it's like they're not even installed, u just gotta give this app a run if u haven't yet, props to dev
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155737
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Thanks for this share
Without you, I'll never know about this great app.
Been using this for a few months now, and is great for killing memory hogs like facebook so your phone does not slow down when you need it to answer a call or dial a contact.
Only downside is it takes long for the hibernated apps to start up. 'no such thing as a free lunch' as they say.
But for me the pro's outweigh te cons.
Sent from my phone.
I came across this app while I was looking for something in play store.
it won't freeze your apps, or even kill their processes. But rather, put your background apps (that you select) into HIBERNATION.
"Greenified" apps are automatically hibernated when you're not using them, so you'll always have enough free RAM + Much longer battery life.
I strongly recommend you give it a try. At your own risk of course.
download: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oasisfeng.greenify&hl=en
XDA Thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155737
UPDATE : Donation version now allow hibernating System apps.
LOL, I guess like 90%+ members should know about this already. It's pretty much the only power saver app I haven't removed and would recommend - all of the rest, in my experience, have done much more harm than good.
does what it says perfectly - nothing more nothing less and most importantly no annoyances - one of my all time favourites
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tuxonhtc said:
LOL, I guess like 90%+ members should know about this already.
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I love fast statistics. Do you have another one?!
Obviously I didn't literally mean 90%+, but yeah, most active users should know about Greenify
tuxonhtc said:
Obviously I didn't literally mean 90%+, but yeah, most active users should know about Greenify
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I'm an active user and I didn't find out about Greenify until yesterday. Strange, but it happens.
kindly, give the remaining "10%" a chance.
I am a ROM developer and also this is tbe first time I hear about this app, thanks for sharing
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I am a ROM developer and also this is tbe first time I hear about this app, thanks for sharing
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Thank you.
Only problem being that it shows only apps with widgets or that anyone will probably use and won't block (or "greenify")... so totaly useless... to me at least.
dalanik said:
Only problem being that it shows only apps with widgets or that anyone will probably use and won't block (or "greenify")... so totaly useless... to me at least.
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I'm not sure I understand this. You can greenify any app. Just press the '+' button on the top right corner and you get a list of all the apps.
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Chaos ^_^ said:
I am a ROM developer and also this is tbe first time I hear about this app, thanks for sharing
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Me too :good:
Do you think it's possible to port your rom for note 2 user ??
Big thanks
Im using this app since 1 months withe real battery saving :thumbup::thumbup:
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Me too :good:
Do you think it's possible to port your rom for note 2 user ??
Big thanks
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yes it is possible, but i need testers, and if possible developer to port and i will help him in all the ways i can
It is nothing but a task killer.
Kills the process after idle time.
confirmed it from Setting-Applications-Running Applications.[ And Other task killers too]
Check out and let me know.
^^nope it isn't a task killer it just hibernates the service so that it doesn't consume any cpu cycles unnecessarily afaik
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Don't go on the description.
I've observed with Facebook app.
The service restarts Every time.
You can feel the excessive leading time.
There is nothing like hibernation.
yes it does kill the app after ideal time, and the good thing that it works, other battery saver only kill app temporary and it will restart automatically again.
don't use it with apps like what's app or viber skype,,, etc
you will not receive calls ir chats untill you reopen the app, personally I am using it with secondary apps like kik and facebook twitter, ,, etc
apps that I dont want to get notified instantly
Chaos ^_^ said:
yes it is possible, but i need testers, and if possible developer to port and i will help him in all the ways i can
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I can help you if i can
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Greenify caused me problems. Swiftkey keyboard waked up my phone some times, so i Greenify it. But when i wanted to use it, all i got was a black screen. Only after i removed the battery the problem solved.
Generally this programme is useful for Facebook, eBay, Tapatalk. And only if you don't want notifications from these apps.
Can't use it (there is no point) in Viber, clock - temperature - diary widgets, battery monitoring programmes, setCPU programmes, WiFi Toggler programmes, call recording programmes, Cerberus or "where's my DROID" programmes.
For me is useless.
From Galaxy Note 2 with Swype "talk and type"
MeddlingMageGR said:
For me is useless.
From Galaxy Note 2 with Swype "talk and type"
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No problem, stop using it.
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