has anyone actually used this? i enabled it and installed NXP taginfo but i dont know what i can tag...i'm from pennsylvania so i dont think we have much nfc-enabled things right now...i tried my passport and it didnt work but its from 2003..so i'm not sure if they were using NFC back then
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has anyone actually used this? i enabled it and installed NXP taginfo but i dont know what i can tag...i'm from pennsylvania so i dont think we have much nfc-enabled things right now...i tried my passport and it didnt work but its from 2003..so i'm not sure if they were using NFC back then
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Honestly - not much. The killer app (Google Wallet) is a LONG way from working.
Passports only started including RFID within the past 2-3 years
The device will react to Citi PayPass MasterCards, but there's not much you can do with it
Same for many corporate access cards - my employee badge is an ISO whateverthestandardis smartcard - the phone reads it but can't really do much
There are places you can buy NFC tags to play with that you can program to launch tasks and such... Kinda neat but not particularly useful.
In general, since we only have one officially NFC-enabled phone in the country (Nexus S/NS4G), there isn't much interesting-for-Android NFC stuff out there.
If we can figure out how to get card emulation mode working that'll be a whole other story - but that is going to be VERY hard, if possible at all.
So entropy, we can't use PayPal with nfc?
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Are A, V and T still going to use Isis?
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Honestly - not much. The killer app (Google Wallet) is a LONG way from working.
Passports only started including RFID within the past 2-3 years
The device will react to Citi PayPass MasterCards, but there's not much you can do with it
Same for many corporate access cards - my employee badge is an ISO whateverthestandardis smartcard - the phone reads it but can't really do much
There are places you can buy NFC tags to play with that you can program to launch tasks and such... Kinda neat but not particularly useful.
In general, since we only have one officially NFC-enabled phone in the country (Nexus S/NS4G), there isn't much interesting-for-Android NFC stuff out there.
If we can figure out how to get card emulation mode working that'll be a whole other story - but that is going to be VERY hard, if possible at all.
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Has anyone tried the paypal app? It now has NFC payments.
abacon15 said:
So entropy, we can't use PayPal with nfc?
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PayPal is new - I believe it's NFC support is peer-to-peer mode, which may work.
That one's a REAL ***** to test, since testing it requires two NFC-enabled phones.
It works with Paypal..
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It works with Paypal..
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Sweet... So you tried it with what other phone?
Peaster111 said:
Sweet... So you tried it with what other phone?
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The other GS2 he had sitting in the closet.
When an NFC enable phone detects, say, a credit card that has NFC, is there enough data to set up an NFC Launcher task specific to that card?
Also, what happens when multiple NFC tags are detected? Are they treated separately? Do they interfere with each other?
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When an NFC enable phone detects, say, a credit card that has NFC, is there enough data to set up an NFC Launcher task specific to that card?
Also, what happens when multiple NFC tags are detected? Are they treated separately? Do they interfere with each other?
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It would seem to me that NFC chips do active transmission, they aren't just RFID, so theoretically you shouldn't have two chips actively dumping their contents to the airwaves unless they've done a proper handshake with the reader.
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When an NFC enable phone detects, say, a credit card that has NFC, is there enough data to set up an NFC Launcher task specific to that card?
Also, what happens when multiple NFC tags are detected? Are they treated separately? Do they interfere with each other?
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It looks like most of the task launchers want to be able to write some data (NDEF?) to the tag. So they don't respond to a CC.
I have no writable tags to test with yet... I have a shipment coming from Identive that should be arriving tonight with some NFC Type 2 and Type 4 tags.
NFC is VERY short range so it's almost impossible to have multiple tags in range.
Can someone post the apps that currently work? It would be great to keep track since this is "new tech"
I have NFC Task Launcher working as well as NFC Quick Actions (which I installed from Amazon's app store).
I picked up a few of these.
http://www.sparkfun.com/products/10128
They are pretty fun. I have a few taped around my house and office.
I tried reading the RFID in my dog, but I either cant find it, or it isn't recognized.
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I have NFC Task Launcher working as well as NFC Quick Actions (which I installed from Amazon's app store).
I picked up a few of these.
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They are pretty fun. I have a few taped around my house and office.
I tried reading the RFID in my dog, but I either cant find it, or it isn't recognized.
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Funny I just had the HomeAgain chip put in my dog today. Thought I'd try to see if I could read it but haven't had any luck. I'm on unnamed 1.3.1
Have you had any luck getting to read the tag?
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Funny I just had the HomeAgain chip put in my dog today. Thought I'd try to see if I could read it but haven't had any luck. I'm on unnamed 1.3.1
Have you had any luck getting to read the tag?
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Everything I've read indicates HomeAgain uses 125 kHz RFID - which is not compatible with NFC in any way, shape, or form. (NFC uses 13.56 MHz RFID)
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Everything I've read indicates HomeAgain uses 125 kHz RFID - which is not compatible with NFC in any way, shape, or form. (NFC uses 13.56 MHz RFID)
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Oh ok. Thanks for the info. Guess ill have to find something else to try it on.
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I'm just wondering what the prognosis is on NFC for the Thunderbolt?
Are we actually getting it? Is there a possibility of it getting leaked?
We would need the NFC hardware in our phones before we could use the NFC software.
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Oh I thought we had it. I could have sworn I saw somewhere that said we did. Haha. Damn.
If NFC is really important to you, you should be able to purchase a replacement microSD with an imbedded NFC chip. Not sure how much a 32GB card will be, however.
The biggest I could find (so far) was 8gb.
If you just want to do the Google Wallet thing, they are supposed to be making stickers that you can stick inside your battery cover (or case) to do the swipe-purchase. It doesn't give you the flexibility, or tie into the Google Wallet app, but it is better than nothing...maybe...
Unfortunately I don't think this will take off. I was excited about wave and that had the same fate.
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Why would you want it,there have been reports of people gettin ripped off when the phone is in their pocket all ya need is the rf reader,not all tech advances are good
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Hmph. Well... I guess I'll just wait to see if this goes anywhere.
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Why would you want it,there have been reports of people gettin ripped off when the phone is in their pocket all ya need is the rf reader,not all tech advances are good
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On a phone, it takes more than an rfid reader to access it because it's not a dumb chip (opposed to say rfid on a credit card). Payments are encrypted and transmitted between the phone and the reader as well so man in the middle attacks aren't going to happen.
Please dont spread FUD http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt without citing sources. Only issues with rfid (which is has nothing more in common with nfc other than they share the same frequency) being read so far are on crappy implementations such as gas passes with exxon and other stations and toll passes. The proper way for phones to do payments is a one time key that's only good for a transaction.
There are other things nfc is good for besides payments as well (using it in tandem with bluetooth)
http://mobisocial.stanford.edu/news/2011/02/nfc-and-bluetooth-brought-together-with-android-2-3-3/
http://mobisocial.stanford.edu/img/nfc-poker.jpg (one example)
This isnt exactly nfc, since it's using an rfid tag to give bluetooth connection details, but it works on non hardware enabled nfc devices:
http://mobisocial.stanford.edu/news/2011/03/adding-nfc-to-legacy-devices (site also has lots of useful info on nfc)
http://mobisocial.stanford.edu/news/
well I mean the HTC Support did say NFC was coming with GB. http://www.droid-life.com/2011/03/26/gingerbread-headed-to-htc-thunderbolt-q2-2011/
Any who what are those mysterious holes on the battery cover for then?
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well I mean the HTC Support did say NFC was coming with GB. http://www.droid-life.com/2011/03/26/gingerbread-headed-to-htc-thunderbolt-q2-2011/
Any who what are those mysterious holes on the battery cover for then?
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Did you read the article?
4n1m4l said:
The HTC rep also dropped a list of Android 2.3 features in her email, but we’re thinking she may have just pulled them from an official 2.3 update list because she included NFC in there.
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What are those two little holes for on the battery cover anyway? light sensors? i'm askin?
I believe they are for noise cancellation
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I've seen that the TP has some sort of NFC-like capability (you can bring your Pre phone to it and transfer files, etc). Does anyone know if it's something that ICS will be able to use as NFC, or is it just some HP-specific NFC-similar-but-not thing?
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I've seen that the TP has some sort of NFC-like capability (you can bring your Pre phone to it and transfer files, etc). Does anyone know if it's something that ICS will be able to use as NFC, or is it just some HP-specific NFC-similar-but-not thing?
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Unfortunetly, its a similar but proprietary thing. Not very likely chances of it ever working.
Works the same way but yeah property thing only for webos/hp devices and since webos is a close system doubt we will ever get to use it as a NFC
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Works the same way but yeah property thing only for webos/hp devices and since webos is a close system doubt we will ever get to use it as a NFC
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Closed system? Nawh
It's becoming open source.
2 months later and you have a comeback. I'm not sure what the touchpad uses but it does look alot like nfc.
Any news on this now that web os is open source? Maybe some sort of hack to use it with android phones.
Would be awesome if this were possible. Anyone have any additional info?
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Would be awesome if this were possible. Anyone have any additional info?
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Why tho? Are there really any "stable" NFC type payment options available? All I've read is how everyone has security flaws so far?
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Why tho? Are there really any "stable" NFC type payment options available? All I've read is how everyone has security flaws so far?
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I can't imagine using the Touchpad for contactless payment due to it's size, but it could be handy to use Android Beam, in a similar way to how it was designed to work originally with the Pre3
Hello,
I've read that the HP touchpad and HP phones communicate through "magnets" of some sort.
After that, they communicate via bluetooth.
All seems proprietary to me, my Gnex isn't picking up any NFC readings on the Touchpad would be cool if it was made to work (to share things like the HP phones)
My observation
i bought like 3 touchpad during the fire sale and my observation was, there was some kinda weird technology on webos separate than NFC which uses bluetooth technology to have near filed communication!!! if u have 2 touchpad jus give it a try by placing 2 touchpad on top of one another from backside!!! it will work as it should with phone but it will prompt u to turn on the Bluetooth.... so i dont think touchpad have nfc on it but uses bluetooth to communicate between eachother!!
Touchpad and Pre3 (veer was suppose to get it OTA) use NFC to pair the devices together over Bluetooth and since Bluetooth is faster it transfers those files.
Almost as if the NFC on the touchpad holds Bluetooth pairing information ex. Mac Address and Key. HP did announce in their Think Beyond event that they will let this feature be available to developers, but that never happened. Its limited compared to conventional NFC, but eventually with Open webOS maybe somebody will look into this.
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Why tho? Are there really any "stable" NFC type payment options available? All I've read is how everyone has security flaws so far?
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Google wallet is extremely stable and i have no security concerns with it, what do you mean?
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Google wallet is extremely stable and i have no security concerns with it, what do you mean?
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wallet is secure, but many devices have issues with it working fine one day and then not working for like a month. Look at the sprint evo lte and gsiii releases. Seems to be stable right now though.
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i bought like 3 touchpad during the fire sale and my observation was, there was some kinda weird technology on webos separate than NFC which uses bluetooth technology to have near filed communication!!! if u have 2 touchpad jus give it a try by placing 2 touchpad on top of one another from backside!!! it will work as it should with phone but it will prompt u to turn on the Bluetooth.... so i dont think touchpad have nfc on it but uses bluetooth to communicate between eachother!!
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yes., touchpad don't have NFC.,
Does the 3vo have a Near Field Communication chip.?
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No, but I remember some company trying to put nfc in a sd card. That was a while ago though. Haven't heard anything recently.
No
iPhone > *
It doesn't have one but I don't think it's impossible to add an NFC chip from another phone. The NFC chip on other phones is usually build into the battery cover or battery itself.
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It doesn't have one but I don't think it's impossible to add an NFC chip from another phone. The NFC chip on other phones is usually build into the battery cover or battery itself.
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Well, if your trying to use the NFC for your credit card:
http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/add-nfc-payment-to-your-iphone-152556
I know it says iPhone, but hey, the same method could be used, just my theory.
Hey guys
so i have a rooted phone using flapjaxx aosp 0.6a and ive used others too.
I saw someone earlier from a different thread that his nfc was not working anymore after updating the rom.
Which made me curious what nfc function is that? What nfc usage could that be?
I was told before that here in the US, nfc is not yet being used, but that was around feb. Is it still the same case as today?
Could you pls share your experiences on how to our Att note (here in the US) today?
Thanks
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The usage of NFC could be various.If your doorlock supports NFC, you can use your Galaxy Note as your key, OR you can pay your transit fares with it (if they have a reader), etc. Simply, NFC can be a replacement of your wallet. Also, you can google "android beam". I think that uses NFC as well.
Look at this it has all the NFC info
http://bit.ly/PcHnoP
Lol .. I know what NFC is.
I'm asking for real time usages with our Note from your experiences. Or atleast how you did it.
I know google wallet can be used for this but I don't think it can be done as of now.
Oh well, Thanks anyway.
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Lol .. I know what NFC is.
I'm asking for real time usages with our Note from your experiences. Or atleast how you did it.
I know google wallet can be used for this but I don't think it can be done as of now.
Oh well, Thanks anyway.
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Haha in that case idk to be honest
All I know is Google wallet too lol
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you can use the NFC to communicate with NFC stickers they sell on ebay, and program them to change things like phone settings and profiles by just putting your phone closed to the sticker.
Download NFC Task Launcher and you'll see.
Soon enough, we can turn our cars on with NFC lol. or maybe even set cruise control, set a/c on or off, etc...with NFC.
here's an example usage:
install TecTile app on your phone, buy a TecTile sticker
program the sticker to launch the navigator
i place the sticker on my car
when i get in my car i just wave the phone over the sticker and the navigation app opens
second example - at work i have an nfc sticker on my desk - when i get to work, the nfc disables my ringer and connects me to work wifi - disable 4G
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Haha in that case idk to be honest
All I know is Google wallet too lol
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here's an example usage:
install TecTile app on your phone, buy a TecTile sticker
program the sticker to launch the navigator
i place the sticker on my car
when i get in my car i just wave the phone over the sticker and the navigation app opens
second example - at work i have an nfc sticker on my desk - when i get to work, the nfc disables my ringer and connects me to work wifi - disable 4G
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its cool and all, but Tasker does all of these things automatically
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I have a tag under my center console lid in my car. Tap it and turns off Wifi, turns on BT. Tap it again, reverses the process.
I made a tag for my PS3 controller. Tap it once to open sixaxis control app, prompt for IME change, enable auto-rotation, go back to home screen (where games and emulators are). Tap it again, reverses all of that.
I tried making one that will auto connect and enter the PW for my Wifi, but couldn't get it to work.
There are TONS of possibilities. The NFC apps have a lot of options, but you can also call any Tasker task. And Tasker is very powerful.
Nice. Those are great ideas. I will look into those stickers.
All I've used the NFC for so far is seeing what data's being transmitted via the chip in my various credit cards, IDs and passport.
Oh and someone I met had an RFID/NFC chip in their business card, that was neat.
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its cool and all, but Tasker does all of these things automatically
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Yeah but the question wasn't about tasker. The question was about potential usages of nfc
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I have never used it and the Rom I am on it dose not work. So I would like to know what every one uses NFC for on their phones
(I don't want to know what it can be used for, but what it is really used for day by day)
written in your mud with my stick
I can't figure it out myself mate
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PORRRNNN!!!!!!!!!!! hehe. Just kidding. It's great for sharing pictures or music or various other files.
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I use it for setting my tasker profiles. One in the car to turn on/off cruise mode, one at my desk to do work profile, and one on my night stand. I work in my schools AIDC lab and have access to a ton of different miFare HF tags. They are fun to play with and more useful than you are think.
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PORRRNNN!!!!!!!!!!! hehe. Just kidding. It's great for sharing pictures or music or various other files.
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How do you enable NFC in settings? Should I flash NFC zip file?
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How do you enable NFC in settings? Should I flash NFC zip file?
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For me...NFC means...."No F****** Clue.....LOL....g
On cm10 simplytapp. Almost like google wallet.
Also squareless on play store to check if you have RFID chips in your credit cards. I've had no identity thieves ever since my card numbers are NOT wirelessly transmitted.
I use NFC Task Launcher with some stickers and buttons I bought from the developer. I've got 1 in my car that disables wifi, turns on BT and my ringer, 1 on my desk at work that disables the wifi and BT and ringer, and 1 at home that turns on wifi, and ringer, and disables BT. You get the idea. The car 1 is nice in the winter when I have gloves on and can't manipulate my screen easily. Of course, these are all things that at most save you a few seconds, but I forget to turn BT off when I get into work most of the time, or don't bother, if I do it manually, having the sticker allows me to consistently do it, which lets me stay off a charger a bit longer. My 1 complaint about it is that you have to unlock the screen first, before the sticker will actually be able to work. I haven't fully explored what all I can use these stickers for, I still need to do that.
scariola said:
On cm10 simplytapp. Almost like google wallet.
Also squareless on play store to check if you have RFID chips in your credit cards. I've had no identity thieves ever since my card numbers are NOT wirelessly transmitted.
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Credit cards don't transmit anything. When in very close proximity (nearly touching) they will react to a signal that is transmitted from a reader. The insane fear of having your credit cards stolen is holding this country back from ever advancing technologically.
The risk of losing your credit card/identity theft is far, far, far less using NFC/RFID over traditional credit cards. Everytime your card leaves your hand/eye sight the odds of being compromised is huge. The reprogramming and or altering of the magnetic strip on the cards is just as great (thus the reason you need the last 4 digits on the card at some places).