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Sorry if this has been asked, I saw a video on youtube that said it did. So does have built in GPS?
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No, the one available from sears doesn't have the chip. This device has many names and a couple different configurations from different companies. One is available w/ 3g radio, gps, and 1 gig of ram. It's available for order from some import sites. Ours unfortunatly is only 512 and no 3g or gps. with that said, their is support for an external bluetooth gps device.
Thanks for the heads up. Damn, kind of a let down(for me). It still is one of the best spec'd tablets out right now for the price. How do you like it????
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No, the one available from sears doesn't have the chip. This device has many names and a couple different configurations from different companies. One is available w/ 3g radio, gps, and 1 gig of ram. It's available for order from some import sites. Ours unfortunatly is only 512 and no 3g or gps. with that said, their is support for an external bluetooth gps device.
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What variant has those specs?
vinscuzzy said:
Thanks for the heads up. Damn, kind of a let down(for me). It still is one of the best spec'd tablets out right now for the price. How do you like it????
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I can only answer for myself. I am using the stock software. I have not modified it in any way. I have been able to find enough apps to do what I want with the device as it is supplied from Sears. Would I like more, sure. I would like to have flash working. While I really don't care about youtube, it would be handy to be able to pull some things up for my music lessons. The guys on this forum have done more in 10 days than any other group that I have ever seen. They have mod'd this device all over the place. One guy has reported that he even has a wince version almost ready to release as a beta. Honestly, the hardware on this thing is fantastic. I admit the software is not up to the same caliber as the hardware. I am just too busy to play with mod'ing mine right now. I am going out of town for two weeks and I don't want to screw it up just before I go and then I will be pissed off the whole time I am gone. I believe the experts on this forum have said the device is un-brickable. And from all of the discussions, I believe this to be true and not just hot air. My advice - If you can get a refurbished one buy it fast at 279. If not then buy it on sale this coming Thursday for 379. If all else fails then shell out the 400 for a brand new one. If it can't do it now I am sure these guys will make it do it before Christmas. IMO
http://www.aliexpress.com/product-f...D-screen-16GB-SSD-1GHz-Tegra-wholesalers.html
Here's the tablet in question from an Malata, the supplier that sold it to viewsonic. It's a bit pricy though.
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http://www.aliexpress.com/product-f...D-screen-16GB-SSD-1GHz-Tegra-wholesalers.html
Here's the tablet in question from an Malata, the supplier that sold it to viewsonic. It's a bit pricy though.
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Wth? By that link it looks like flash is working. Hey, it even comes with a custom case with the cutouts for the buttons and stuff. They probably have a kickass market too! ;P
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http://www.aliexpress.com/product-f...D-screen-16GB-SSD-1GHz-Tegra-wholesalers.html
Here's the tablet in question from an Malata, the supplier that sold it to viewsonic. It's a bit pricy though.
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would definatly get that if it were a bit cheaper, like the 450 range with 3g and GPS
guitar geek said:
I can only answer for myself. I am using the stock software. I have not modified it in any way. I have been able to find enough apps to do what I want with the device as it is supplied from Sears. Would I like more, sure. I would like to have flash working. While I really don't care about youtube, it would be handy to be able to pull some things up for my music lessons. The guys on this forum have done more in 10 days than any other group that I have ever seen. They have mod'd this device all over the place. One guy has reported that he even has a wince version almost ready to release as a beta. Honestly, the hardware on this thing is fantastic. I admit the software is not up to the same caliber as the hardware. I am just too busy to play with mod'ing mine right now. I am going out of town for two weeks and I don't want to screw it up just before I go and then I will be pissed off the whole time I am gone. I believe the experts on this forum have said the device is un-brickable. And from all of the discussions, I believe this to be true and not just hot air. My advice - If you can get a refurbished one buy it fast at 279. If not then buy it on sale this coming Thursday for 379. If all else fails then shell out the 400 for a brand new one. If it can't do it now I am sure these guys will make it do it before Christmas. IMO
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Like you, I am using the stock software, and have not modified it, other than to add the folio flash apk. Flash now works great. It is a great device and I am eagerly awaiting the update from VS
another option is to use a BT GPS puck and an app like Bluetooth GPS to simulate an internal gps.
In the Malata link that Marican posted, it talks about adding GPS like it is something they can "plug-in" upon request. If that were true, it sounds like for $40, we might be able to get the same thing and stick it in the unit. Anyone have any ideas about how they are adding GPS?
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In the Malata link that Marican posted, it talks about adding GPS like it is something they can "plug-in" upon request. If that were true, it sounds like for $40, we might be able to get the same thing and stick it in the unit. Anyone have any ideas about how they are adding GPS?
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There's a space on the board for a GPS on a chip, as well as a mini PCI-e socket and space for a SIM socket. Might be doable with a bit of soldering, which I might be attempting soon.
Let me know how it goes is like to put a gps card in there
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another option is to use a BT GPS puck and an app like Bluetooth GPS to simulate an internal gps.
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I got mine to work using bluetooth gps on the g-tablet and share gps on my droid 1. Worked beautifully. Now i need to root my droid so I can tether internet. Anyone know of good in car mounts for this thing?
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No, the one available from sears doesn't have the chip. This device has many names and a couple different configurations from different companies. One is available w/ 3g radio, gps, and 1 gig of ram. It's available for order from some import sites. Ours unfortunatly is only 512 and no 3g or gps. with that said, their is support for an external bluetooth gps device.
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Just to confirm, in Italy Olivetti is proposing Olipad100, which is a version of G-Tablet with 1 GB RAM (but no GPS, unfortunately), as reported here:
http://forum.android-dev.it/olipad100-viewsonic-g-tablet-rimarchiato-512mb-t2980.html
It is my understanding that you do not need to root your android phone when you use 'Easy Tether' program available on Market.
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KorbenD said:
There's a space on the board for a GPS on a chip, as well as a mini PCI-e socket and space for a SIM socket. Might be doable with a bit of soldering, which I might be attempting soon.
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How did the soldering go? I wanted to try the same, but wanted to know, how did it go for you before actually trying it myself.
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How did the soldering go? I wanted to try the same, but wanted to know, how did it go for you before actually trying it myself.
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There is tons more info in this post on the internal gps. Hope this helps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1062333
has anyone actually used this? i enabled it and installed NXP taginfo but i dont know what i can tag...i'm from pennsylvania so i dont think we have much nfc-enabled things right now...i tried my passport and it didnt work but its from 2003..so i'm not sure if they were using NFC back then
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has anyone actually used this? i enabled it and installed NXP taginfo but i dont know what i can tag...i'm from pennsylvania so i dont think we have much nfc-enabled things right now...i tried my passport and it didnt work but its from 2003..so i'm not sure if they were using NFC back then
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Honestly - not much. The killer app (Google Wallet) is a LONG way from working.
Passports only started including RFID within the past 2-3 years
The device will react to Citi PayPass MasterCards, but there's not much you can do with it
Same for many corporate access cards - my employee badge is an ISO whateverthestandardis smartcard - the phone reads it but can't really do much
There are places you can buy NFC tags to play with that you can program to launch tasks and such... Kinda neat but not particularly useful.
In general, since we only have one officially NFC-enabled phone in the country (Nexus S/NS4G), there isn't much interesting-for-Android NFC stuff out there.
If we can figure out how to get card emulation mode working that'll be a whole other story - but that is going to be VERY hard, if possible at all.
So entropy, we can't use PayPal with nfc?
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Are A, V and T still going to use Isis?
Entropy512 said:
Honestly - not much. The killer app (Google Wallet) is a LONG way from working.
Passports only started including RFID within the past 2-3 years
The device will react to Citi PayPass MasterCards, but there's not much you can do with it
Same for many corporate access cards - my employee badge is an ISO whateverthestandardis smartcard - the phone reads it but can't really do much
There are places you can buy NFC tags to play with that you can program to launch tasks and such... Kinda neat but not particularly useful.
In general, since we only have one officially NFC-enabled phone in the country (Nexus S/NS4G), there isn't much interesting-for-Android NFC stuff out there.
If we can figure out how to get card emulation mode working that'll be a whole other story - but that is going to be VERY hard, if possible at all.
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Has anyone tried the paypal app? It now has NFC payments.
abacon15 said:
So entropy, we can't use PayPal with nfc?
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PayPal is new - I believe it's NFC support is peer-to-peer mode, which may work.
That one's a REAL ***** to test, since testing it requires two NFC-enabled phones.
It works with Paypal..
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contentryder said:
It works with Paypal..
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Sweet... So you tried it with what other phone?
Peaster111 said:
Sweet... So you tried it with what other phone?
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The other GS2 he had sitting in the closet.
When an NFC enable phone detects, say, a credit card that has NFC, is there enough data to set up an NFC Launcher task specific to that card?
Also, what happens when multiple NFC tags are detected? Are they treated separately? Do they interfere with each other?
Niksko said:
When an NFC enable phone detects, say, a credit card that has NFC, is there enough data to set up an NFC Launcher task specific to that card?
Also, what happens when multiple NFC tags are detected? Are they treated separately? Do they interfere with each other?
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It would seem to me that NFC chips do active transmission, they aren't just RFID, so theoretically you shouldn't have two chips actively dumping their contents to the airwaves unless they've done a proper handshake with the reader.
Niksko said:
When an NFC enable phone detects, say, a credit card that has NFC, is there enough data to set up an NFC Launcher task specific to that card?
Also, what happens when multiple NFC tags are detected? Are they treated separately? Do they interfere with each other?
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It looks like most of the task launchers want to be able to write some data (NDEF?) to the tag. So they don't respond to a CC.
I have no writable tags to test with yet... I have a shipment coming from Identive that should be arriving tonight with some NFC Type 2 and Type 4 tags.
NFC is VERY short range so it's almost impossible to have multiple tags in range.
Can someone post the apps that currently work? It would be great to keep track since this is "new tech"
I have NFC Task Launcher working as well as NFC Quick Actions (which I installed from Amazon's app store).
I picked up a few of these.
http://www.sparkfun.com/products/10128
They are pretty fun. I have a few taped around my house and office.
I tried reading the RFID in my dog, but I either cant find it, or it isn't recognized.
31073 said:
I have NFC Task Launcher working as well as NFC Quick Actions (which I installed from Amazon's app store).
I picked up a few of these.
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They are pretty fun. I have a few taped around my house and office.
I tried reading the RFID in my dog, but I either cant find it, or it isn't recognized.
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Funny I just had the HomeAgain chip put in my dog today. Thought I'd try to see if I could read it but haven't had any luck. I'm on unnamed 1.3.1
Have you had any luck getting to read the tag?
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Funny I just had the HomeAgain chip put in my dog today. Thought I'd try to see if I could read it but haven't had any luck. I'm on unnamed 1.3.1
Have you had any luck getting to read the tag?
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Everything I've read indicates HomeAgain uses 125 kHz RFID - which is not compatible with NFC in any way, shape, or form. (NFC uses 13.56 MHz RFID)
Entropy512 said:
Everything I've read indicates HomeAgain uses 125 kHz RFID - which is not compatible with NFC in any way, shape, or form. (NFC uses 13.56 MHz RFID)
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Oh ok. Thanks for the info. Guess ill have to find something else to try it on.
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I heard about Lookout for checking CIQ on phone and saw that they have a security app. Also saw something by NetQin. I used to use BitDefender on my pc but then it got buggy.
My first smartphone and I'm paranoid. So do most people use a security/anti-virus app on their phone? If so, which do you suggest?
I've had more than my fair share of smart phones. This is my 4th one this year. As for me, I've never used a virus scanner on my phone or any of my computers. I'm just smart and make sure I don't download things I don't know what they are.
I've been using the free version of Lookout for about 3 years through an OG Droid, Droid 2, Droid X2, and now my Rezound. I've never had any issues with it. It seems to work the way it's supposed to.
Not really necessary. But it's up to you really, personal preference in this matter.
Yeah, I have read that Android doesn't propagate viruses, but seems like there would still be a chance of getting malware or spyware.
Also, does anyone worry about intrusions via bluetooth or something from another person even without using a trojan? I used to read about that ability years ago, where someone could go through your files and grab what they wanted via bluetooth. Is there a way for anyone to do that with our phones?
Heavily researched this the other day. Not sure if you're worried more about the malware side of life, or the potential of theft - but if you're looking to ID a perp for trying to gank your phone, nothing comes close to the feature set in Cerberus.
Android market link: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.lsdroid.cerberus&hl=en
Android Police review: http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/1...s-a-clear-winner-in-keeping-your-device-safe/
Hadn't even heard of it before last week, but after 10 minutes of messing w/ it, I was sold. Better than anything else in the market by far in terms of what it does & I can confirm everything is working on my Rezound. Also, it's only $3 and change. Can't beat that
Also, for reference, I previously used Prey, but I like this much better.
(Favorite feature is the front cam snaps that get sent to my email, each time my pattern lock is incorrectly swiped)
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Yeah, I have read that Android doesn't propagate viruses, but seems like there would still be a chance of getting malware or spyware.
Also, does anyone worry about intrusions via bluetooth or something from another person even without using a trojan? I used to read about that ability years ago, where someone could go through your files and grab what they wanted via bluetooth. Is there a way for anyone to do that with our phones?
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I wrote a paper on Bluetooth for school. Those attacks were fixed with Bluetooth 2.0
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I wrote a paper on Bluetooth for school. Those attacks were fixed with Bluetooth 2.0
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Hm... how does it do that, in layman's terms?
I'm paranoid a bit since our phones are now pretty much like laptops. I have my laptop on lockdown though and this is my first smartphone so I want to be sure I'm not leaving a security hole open for some nefarious character to take advantage of.
Well, I know I already mentioned Lookout, but I'm going to mention them again. These guys seem to know what they're doing. I mean, as this article states, Google trusts them enough to tell them what to remove from the market, so I would assume that they're pretty legit. Again, I've never had an issue with anything, and I've been running Lookout for a while.
The new avast!, which bought and incorporated Theft Aware, seems like the best option on the market to me....It's what I use.
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(Favorite feature is the front cam snaps that get sent to my email, each time my pattern lock is incorrectly swiped)
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Nice feature, I'm going to check it out just for that.
Check out Zoner
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I use lookout, been using it for over two years now on 4 android phones.
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It appears like I'm one of the many people with non existent GPS. I wonder how much it really matters though. Outside of location services for apps, what is the point of having this on a wifi only tablet? You are going to get some location info on wifi. When you are not connected to the Internet, what good is the GPS? Google maps generally requires a data connection, as do most apps.
I already knew about the GPS problems before buying the tablet, so I'm not stressing about it.
What are you using GPS for when you are offline?
Thoughts?
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It appears like I'm one of the many people with non existent GPS. I wonder how much it really matters though. Outside of location services for apps, what is the point of having this on a wifi only tablet? You are going to get some location info on wifi. When you are not connected to the Internet, what good is the GPS? Google maps generally requires a data connection, as do most apps.
I already knew about the GPS problems before buying the tablet, so I'm not stressing about it.
What are you using GPS for when you are offline?
Thoughts?
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I feel the same way, I just got my prime and I knew about the gps issue and to me it is a non issue. The wifi works just fine so I am very happy
For me is more the fact that I paid $500 + tax for a fully working tablet and its not what I got. I'm funny like that.
At this point in time, in a premium 2012 tablet, GPS is not exactly black magic. It should work in a premium tablet - it works perfectly on a wifi samsung 10.1.
At the very latest it's like buying the keyboard dock with a non working sd card reader. Yes, there is the cloud, the micro sd card in the tablet, just plug a usb drive, blah blah blah. Really?
It's there. Its a great gps chip. It should simply f*ing work, simples.
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For me is more the fact that I paid $500 + tax for a fully working tablet and its not what I got. I'm funny like that.
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True. But, they originally delayed shipment of the tablet because of the GPS issue and then said they were planning to disable it. So, I wasn't even expecting to have the option available on it. I'm just curious what people would use it for if it was functioning. Maybe to make myself feel better that it's not working.
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I'm just curious what people would use it for if it was functioning. Maybe to make myself feel better that it's not working.
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http://bestandroidappsfor.com/maps-navigation/best-android-offline-maps
Offline maps are great for off roading, for instance. Or trekking in a big national park. Heck,een geotagging, tagging your pictures/notes for organizing them later.
Star, planets, educational apps.
Edit: oh yeah, those tablet retrieval security apps...those that would report back (when connected) where your precious is located if stolen. That's about it, LOL.
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What are you using GPS for when you are offline?
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Locus Pro, but there are many offline solutions such as CoPilot.
rueben68 said:
For me is more the fact that I paid $500 + tax for a fully working tablet and its not what I got. I'm funny like that.
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RipplingHurst said:
At this point in time, in a premium 2012 tablet, GPS is not exactly black magic. It should work in a premium tablet - it works perfectly on a wifi samsung 10.1.
At the very latest it's like buying the keyboard dock with a non working sd card reader. Yes, there is the cloud, the micro sd card in the tablet, just plug a usb drive, blah blah blah. Really?
It's there. Its a great gps chip. It should simply f*ing work, simples.
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The two posters above nailed the issue dead on.
GPS isn't voodoo, nor is it black magic. It's a standard feature in Android devices. Why is this top of the line, leading edge, Android device deficient?
As has been discussed many times, Apple has sold tens of millions of iPads with no GPS chip whatsoever, and for $100 more per tablet on a same-storage basis. So, obviously, the market as a whole doesn't demand GPS in a tablet. Toss in about 6 million Kindle Fires to illustrate the point.
I kind of understand the idea that the chip is there so some people want it to work, but for myself I have to admit that I pretty much don't care beyond that completely theoretical level. I suppose my opinion is influenced by the fact that I never once used GPS on my original Transformer. Not a single time. Didn't even think about using it. So, the chip sat there, completely unused. What do I do, complain now that I spent money on something I never used? Should I have demanded a lower-priced version of the Transformer without a GPS chip?
I think the fact remains as it always has with the Prime: if you want navigation-quality GPS on a tablet, then the Prime isn't for you. Neither is the iPad. So, make a different choice. I choose to simply think of the Prime as a tablet that's like the iPad in not having GPS, only $100 cheaper.
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wynand32 said:
As has been discussed many times, Apple has sold tens of millions of iPads with no GPS chip whatsoever, and for $100 more per tablet on a same-storage basis. So, obviously, the market as a whole doesn't demand GPS in a tablet. Toss in about 6 million Kindle Fires to illustrate the point.
I kind of understand the idea that the chip is there so some people want it to work, but for myself I have to admit that I pretty much don't care beyond that completely theoretical level. I suppose my opinion is influenced by the fact that I never once used GPS on my original Transformer. Not a single time. Didn't even think about using it. So, the chip sat there, completely unused. What do I do, complain now that I spent money on something I never used? Should I have demanded a lower-priced version of the Transformer without a GPS chip?
I think the fact remains as it always has with the Prime: if you want navigation-quality GPS on a tablet, then the Prime isn't for you. Neither is the iPad. So, make a different choice. I choose to simply think of the Prime as a tablet that's like the iPad in not having GPS, only $100 cheaper.
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Do you turn off the GPS location services in the settings? Does this actually turn off the radio to preserve battery or just disable the app usage?
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I wonder how much it really matters though?
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Regarding your title question.... To you... Not much. To others... I can't say, but for me, I put off my purchase directly because this feature is not available/functional.
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......I think the fact remains as it always has with the Prime: if you want navigation-quality GPS on a tablet, then the Prime isn't for you.
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'always' = o'rly?
As it remains, now, yes, but AFTER ASUS TOOK THAT FEATURE OFF OF THE SPECIFICATION LIST....AFTER ALREADY MANUFACTURING IT AND SELLING IT AS PREVIOUSLY SPECIFIED AS HAVING GPS CAPABILITY
sorry for SHOUTING, but some folks forget the timeline involved, and also that we are not all after the same thing -feature wise- with tablets or other technologies. Some features are more important to others, some features may never even be used by some folks...maybe they will use it in the future or folks will give the tablet to their kids who my discover unused features.
Also, some of ya'll must never travel out of cell phone signal range, and that's a very sad thing, because there exists a LOT of places on this beautiful planet and some of them, gasp, don't have wifi or cellular coverage for location services-places where I turn phones off because they become completely useless. I travel to some of these places, and would be nice to navigate, geocache, geotag pictures from my DSLR, watch movies, play some simple games, keep notes of the journey, itinerary, etc... on less than 2 or 4 devices, possibly even on just 1 nearly awesome device... but I guess not this one-that doesn't make me wrong for wanting GPS capabilities on a high-performance Android Tablet and being interested in one that was supposed to have said capability.
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GPS doesn't drain battery if not in active use, it's not like wifi that test network even when no network usable.
So you can leave it on but what for...
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Do you turn off the GPS location services in the settings? Does this actually turn off the radio to preserve battery or just disable the app usage?
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The "GPS location service" is WiFi. Google has mapped out where millions of WiFi nodes are, plus you are getting AGPS data over WiFi if there is an open access point.
"GPS Satellites" is what you want to uncheck to save battery.
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So you can leave it on but what for...
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Use your imagination! Think of places where you might want to know where you are but there is no wifi or cell coverage. Think of things you would want to do with that information. Think of reasons for wanting that information integrated within a device you use for other purposes (ie: using something you already have with you instead of bringing something additional)
The sad thing is mine and my dads prime had gps working outside until the last update which was to "fix the gps".
Yes, my GPS was working too until the last update specifically for GPS. Then it no longer worked. It has been posted that the update would disable GPS. Guess I should've believed that and passed.
I use GPS a lot with my smartphones and wanted it here for the larger map. I carry a 3G MiFi for travel so maps and aGPS were a go once upon a time and the larger map was indeed a plus.
It matters to me but I'm not returning my Prime until or unless a fix is known.
-jts
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mrmark93 said:
Regarding your title question.... To you... Not much. To others... I can't say, but for me, I put off my purchase directly because this feature is not available/functional.
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Are you planning to purchase an alternative tablet for GPS? Is the Galaxy Tab the only other one with that feature?
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Are you planning to purchase an alternative tablet for GPS? Is the Galaxy Tab the only other one with that feature?
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My Prime's pretty solid, no real issues that aren't software as far as I can tell.
If Asus can't fix the GPS issue I'll probably buy a bluetooth GPS puck and call it a day.
Col.Kernel said:
The "GPS location service" is WiFi. Google has mapped out where millions of WiFi nodes are, plus you are getting AGPS data over WiFi if there is an open access point.
"GPS Satellites" is what you want to uncheck to save battery.
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That's what I meant... thanks.
I actually noticed Google Maps was crashing on me when I had GPS turned on and couldn't get a signal. Then when I turned it off and just used wifi for location, it worked fine. Plus, every time I open Facebook it tries (and fails) to find my GPS location. So, I will probably just disable it for the time being.
teknomar7 said:
It appears like I'm one of the many people with non existent GPS. I wonder how much it really matters though. Outside of location services for apps, what is the point of having this on a wifi only tablet? You are going to get some location info on wifi. When you are not connected to the Internet, what good is the GPS? Google maps generally requires a data connection, as do most apps.
I already knew about the GPS problems before buying the tablet, so I'm not stressing about it.
What are you using GPS for when you are offline?
Thoughts?
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+1. A good point well made.
If I ever need GPS data I can use my mobile, but can't ever remember needing to use it.
mrmark93 said:
Regarding your title question.... To you... Not much. To others... I can't say, but for me, I put off my purchase directly because this feature is not available/functional.
'always' = o'rly?
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Okay, yes, there is a group of people who bought Primes and didn't find out about the likely permanence of the GPS issue until after their return policy expired. For those people, ASUS needs to come up with a solution, up to and including giving a refund.
However, this thread is about whether GPS matters today. Certainly, anybody buying it now and visiting this forum has zero reason to complain, except in general to say "Boy, I really wish the Prime had working GPS, because then it would be the perfect tablet." Fact is, though, it doesn't, and so that wish and $.25 won't even get a person a cup of coffee nowadays.
Hello everyone. I have gone as far as I can go by myself, and I am looking for a little help to see if together we can get this working.
I have a Lilliput 669GL-70NP/C/T 7" touch screen that I want to try and get working over USB host. So far, all my attempts have been fruitless, but I think that it is possible. The touchscreen utilizes an eGalax driver to work, and I see from their web site here:
http://home.eeti.com.tw/web20/eGalaxTouchDriver/linuxDriver.htm
that they have created a linux driver for ARM devices. Based on what I have been able to determine, this means that I should be able to load the driver on android, but this is where I start getting in way over my head.
Does anyone know what I should be trying to get this to work? I also read that ICS has some form of touch input built in... should I be trying this on that? Right now I am running CM7. It seems to me like with a little work we could have external touchscreens for our Atrix!
Oh I forgot to mention, when I plug the touchscreen in, DMSG does register a USB HID input device as "eGalax Inc. USB TouchController"
CM7 also registers the handlers for the touchscreen as mouse1 and event10 when I run "cat /proc/bus/input/devices"
It seems like this is so close right out of the box! I'm trying my best to load the drivers now from terminal... we'll see how that goes.
Hope you get it sorted.
xdraconis said:
CM7 also registers the handlers for the touchscreen as mouse1 and event10 when I run "cat /proc/bus/input/devices"
It seems like this is so close right out of the box! I'm trying my best to load the drivers now from terminal... we'll see how that goes.
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Wow, I really wish that I could help. I'm really just dropping in to show interest and wish you good luck.
That would be a really sweet way to almost have a padphone. Ever since I unboxed my lapdock I've said that it should have been a tabdock with a touchscreen instead.
I'll go back to lurking now...
JdgM3NT4L said:
Wow, I really wish that I could help. I'm really just dropping in to show interest and wish you good luck.
That would be a really sweet way to almost have a padphone. Ever since I unboxed my lapdock I've said that it should have been a tabdock with a touchscreen instead.
I'll go back to lurking now...
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Thanks, My idea here is to dump the phone to a mounted 7" screen in my car dash. I want to basically have a touch screen head unit with all the power android offers, and the unlimited data that AT&T is still reluctantly supplying.
As far as the project goes... I just tried on Joker's CM9 built with the exact same results... I was hoping maybe the rumors I had heard about ICS support were true, but not out of the box i suppose. As far as the drivers, I can not get the calibration / driver utility to run so far... and that's as far as I'm going to be able to go tonight.
Why not HDMI?
Edit, HDMI can't support touch screen, my bad
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Anthony04x said:
Why not HDMI?
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lol nice timing. I was just logging in.
HDMI works great as is. However, I was looking to be able to provide input back to the phone. Otherwise, the phone still has to be front and center for controlling, which in my opinion kind of defeats the purpose of putting the screen there in the first place.
Basically you want to do like, vnc and pocket cloud, where you control your computer via smartphone but you wanna control the phone instead via touchscreen panel, that sounds like a pain in the ass!
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Anthony04x said:
Basically you want to do like, vnc and pocket cloud, where you control your computer via smartphone but you wanna control the phone instead via touchscreen panel, that sounds like a pain in the ass!
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Yes that's exactly what I want to do. I tried running a vnc server on the phone, but even over USB it was far too laggy.
Yeah you would need to like over clock but even that is sketchy
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Anthony04x said:
Yeah you would need to like over clock but even that is sketchy
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Right now I'm trying to install ubuntu on the atrix.... with linux drivers for arm devices that might be a solution i can handle, but I'm not sure it would work with USG host. Don't know until you try though!
True that! Let me know how it goes, sounds like an excellent project
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Have you seen this setup?
Youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=633Kn4XkmJA
Website:
http://www.customgadz.com/store/product.php?id_product=16
I'd love this setup for my car for sure!
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lol nice timing. I was just logging in.
HDMI works great as is. However, I was looking to be able to provide input back to the phone. Otherwise, the phone still has to be front and center for controlling, which in my opinion kind of defeats the purpose of putting the screen there in the first place.
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Are you sure that the USB isn't just for passing touchscreen input back to a device? I mean, I know there are such things as USB monitors, but I don't think this is one of them, is what I'm saying -- I'm pretty sure you need to use both HDMI and USB for this to work.
Even if you could load the driver. Which you can. You still need to write some libs and script to get android on the screen. Good luck
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samcripp said:
Even if you could load the driver. Which you can. You still need to write some libs and script to get android on the screen. Good luck
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smokesignals said:
Are you sure that the USB isn't just for passing touchscreen input back to a device? I mean, I know there are such things as USB monitors, but I don't think this is one of them, is what I'm saying -- I'm pretty sure you need to use both HDMI and USB for this to work.
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Perhaps I need to clarify... The Lilliput 669 has a proprietary HDMI cable that breaks into HDMI and USB. I am not trying to send video and input over USB, just input. The HDMI part works as is. I plan on using both HDMI and USB in the final solution.
jaketc said:
Have you seen this setup?
Youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=633Kn4XkmJA
Website:
http://www.customgadz.com/store/product.php?id_product=16
I'd love this setup for my car for sure!
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Yea me too! I have tried in vain to buy this. $189 AU is a little less than $200, which I would be perfectly ok with for a completely working bluetooth solution. However, I can't buy it. MP3car.com is working with the designer to bring the product to market, but they are still 4-8 weeks out, and there are some concerns that it may not be released at all. The designer's web site lists the product as out of stock.
I have tried to find somewhere else that I could buy it, or at least get schematics to build one, but it has been in vain. By the way, this has been re-branded as "Mimics for Android".
I had been wanting to do the same thing. The other day i just came across something that should be coming out end of the month android quadcore mini development board. so you could say use touch monitor and android OS i see they have bluetooth also so maybe phone could connect bluetooth to the android system in car. there isnt much more info on the board but it looks promising for an incar project its tiny. its called odroid-x http://www.hardkernel.com/renewal_2011/products/prdt_info.php
there was some other $100 range android cube thing i saw recently too that might be good. OUYA is name of it maybe XDA will have a section one day for these devices. could make for some good in-car systems much cheaper than indash receivers and more features.
Good luck to ya, keep us posted. I would kill for a solution like this. I would love to be able to implement this, with a fiber optic audio out to a DSP like the Zapco DSP6 or Audison BitOne.1 or the Helix C/P-DSP that is coming to market.
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I had been wanting to do the same thing. The other day i just came across something that should be coming out end of the month android quadcore mini development board. so you could say use touch monitor and android OS i see they have bluetooth also so maybe phone could connect bluetooth to the android system in car. there isnt much more info on the board but it looks promising for an incar project its tiny. its called odroid-x http://www.hardkernel.com/renewal_2011/products/prdt_info.php
there was some other $100 range android cube thing i saw recently too that might be good. OUYA is name of it maybe XDA will have a section one day for these devices. could make for some good in-car systems much cheaper than indash receivers and more features.
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This all sounds good, and I have seen the OUYA... it looks impressive. However this will remove the phone ability if I go this route. I could just check out the android x86 project for that... I believe they already have this screen working actually. I've been trying to follow how they made that work.
I really want to stick with my atrix as the brain so that I retain the 3g connection without another $50 a month or losing unlimited internet.
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just to know... do you read the "Kernel 2.6.24 upward" right?
theres also what samcriip told, even porting the drivers, you need to write the libs and scripts to get android on the screen, idk how much you know about android but... this is kinda hard to be done...
Good luck, you'll need it.