So instead of waiting for revolutionary, im going to temp root because I don't want to use HTC's method. So, by doing so:
1)if I temp root and then I reboot the device, will any problems occur or will I just lose my root but it'll be the same as stock?
2) Can I remove a bloatware that I can't remove completely (Qik Video for example) with temp root?
3) Can I install the Google Talk with Voice/Video Chat (Link:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1230795) and will it work?
THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH
TechnoHacker said:
So instead of waiting for revolutionary, im going to temp root because I don't want to use HTC's method. So, by doing so:
1)if I temp root and then I reboot the device, will any problems occur or will I just lose my root but it'll be the same as stock?
2) Can I remove a bloatware that I can't remove completely (Qik Video for example) with temp root?
3) Can I install the Google Talk with Voice/Video Chat (Link:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1230795) and will it work?
THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH
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How do you plan on temp rooting? I am pretty sure that the fre3vo temp root method no longer works if you're on 1.5hboot. Also, if you were to somehow accomplish temp root, anything you remove from /system/ will be back after a reboot. I would just use HTC`s method. You can flash whatever your want, minus radios.
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How do you plan on temp rooting? I am pretty sure that the fre3vo temp root method no longer works if you're on 1.5hboot. Also, if you were to somehow accomplish temp root, anything you remove from /system/ will be back after a reboot. I would just use HTC`s method. You can flash whatever your want, minus radios.
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I want to use fre3vo.
Well I just switched from an intercept to my EVO3D (3VO haha). What's the point of flashing radios?
I want to perma root, but wont that destroy my battery life?
TechnoHacker said:
I want to use fre3vo.
Well I just switched from an intercept to my EVO3D (3VO haha). What's the point of flashing radios?
I want to perma root, but wont that destroy my battery life?
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If you want to have any root at all, as of right now the only thing you can do is use the HTC unlock method. It should definitely not destroy your battery life, not sure what prompted you to think it will destroy your battery life, but it won't.
Also, the point of flashing a radio is just to stay up to date with whatever radios HTC releases. Sometimes it will give you better signal, but usually you will be just fine staying on whatever radio you're already on.
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If you want to have any root at all, as of right now the only thing you can do is use the HTC unlock method. It should definitely not destroy your battery life, not sure what prompted you to think it will destroy your battery life, but it won't.
Also, the point of flashing a radio is just to stay up to date with whatever radios HTC releases. Sometimes it will give you better signal, but usually you will be just fine staying on whatever radio you're already on.
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So HBOOT 1.50 has no temp root (fre3vo does not work?)
Well I could use a signal boost for the radio as I don't get to much coverage indoors. :/ I'm not sure what to do, can I un-root and turn s-on ( *** Locked***) again?
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TechnoHacker said:
So HBOOT 1.50 has no temp root (fre3vo does not work?)
Well I could use a signal boost for the radio as I don't get to much coverage indoors. :/ I'm not sure what to do, can I un-root and turn s-on ( *** Locked***) again?
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The temp-root exploit that fr3vo used has been patched. Since you are on HBOOT 1.5 you have the latest radio. You can't turn S-ON because you never get S-OFF with the HTC method.
私のEVO 3Dから送信される。
No I'm saying if i turn s-off, can i go completely stock and turn s-on?
Also, If i root using HTC's method, will I lose all my apps and data :O
-Sent from my HTC EVO 3D using the XDA App.
Also, how am I supposed to backup my apps without root?
As far as backing up your app's without root, try linda file manger. And what flash is saying is the htc method is not a true unlock. Therefore you can't get your Evo3d to be s-off because your on hboot 1.5 so the only way you can unlock your phone is threw htc's method. The methods of truly unlocking your Evo3d are not an option for Evo3d's with the 1.5 boot loader. So in short you don't have to worry about getting your phone s-off and going back to stock because you can't get s-off. You can still however flash roms,mods,kernels,etc. You do however have to flash kernels threw fast boot or threw Joey k's app. Hope this helps. If you need more info send me a pm.
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""shooter on Deck""
laie1472 said:
As far as backing up your app's without root, try linda file manger. And what flash is saying is the htc method is not a true unlock. Therefore you can't get your Evo3d to be s-off because your on hboot 1.5 so the only way you can unlock your phone is threw htc's method. The methods of truly unlocking your Evo3d are not an option for Evo3d's with the 1.5 boot loader. So in short you don't have to worry about getting your phone s-off and going back to stock because you can't get s-off. You can still however flash roms,mods,kernels,etc. You do however have to flash kernels threw fast boot or threw Joey k's app. Hope this helps. If you need more info send me a pm.
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""shooter on Deck""
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Okay, I just want temp-root. How can I get it?
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Okay, I just want temp-root. How can I get it?
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I think the only publicly released exploit for root on EVO 3D works with software versions 1.11 and 1.13 but was patched by HTC in software version 2.08 and is called fre3vo developed and released by agrabren. This exploit was also integrated and used in the AlphaRevX revolutionary tool to gain temp root access before modifying the bootloader.
Original thread and guide by agrabren, I located by typing fre3vo into google.com: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1150006
Hope that helps!
You can not get temp root. Temp root methods for hboot 1.4 were patched with the release of hboot 1.5...
You have been told this already in this thread several times. You have two option. Hurry up and wait for revolutionary to do there thing or you can unlock VIA htcs onlick method.
HTC method will void your warranty. It registers your serial number with them and there's no way around that. Also it is not a true s-off root. It will allow you to write to system to root but will leave the s-on still. This is easily fixed by GUI flash image developed by joeykrim, or by learning to use fastboot commands. Which BTW are easy and fast. I can use fastboot to flash a system.img data.img and boot.img as well as a recovery image in about 4 seconds of typing. Your best bet is to get the sdk set up and get fastboot working. Use fastboot to flash a recovery. You do this by putting the recovery image of your choose into the platform-tools folder of the sdk & rename it to recovery.img . Navigate with windows explorer to the platform tools folder. Assuming you have win7 hold shift and right click an empty spot in the folder and choose open cmd window here. In your cmd window type the following with no quotes..
"Fastboot flash recovery recovery.img" and hit enter.
That flashes your recovery, now to use it you need to boot recovery with fastboot
" fastboot boot recovery recovery.img" then enter.
Something about fastboot booting the recovery completly negates the s-on flag allowing full access to all partions on the device.
Again no temp root at all. It's possible but your gonna have to develop your own exploit. Good luck.
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Okay, I understand now.
So there is no temp root or perma-temp root for HBOOT 1.5 correct?
(I also don't think there is a way to downgrade your hboot).
I want to use HTC's method but it erases all of the phones data(factory reset).
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joeykrim said:
I think the only publicly released exploit for root on EVO 3D works with software versions 1.11 and 1.13 but was patched by HTC in software version 2.08 and is called fre3vo developed and released by agrabren. This exploit was also integrated and used in the AlphaRevX revolutionary tool to gain temp root access before modifying the bootloader.
Original thread and guide by agrabren, I located by typing fre3vo into google.com: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1150006
Hope that helps!
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mikedavis120 said:
You can not get temp root. Temp root methods for hboot 1.4 were patched with the release of hboot 1.5...
This is easily fixed by GUI flash image developed by joeykrim...
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To clarify on the technical details, in case anybody comes across this later, the fre3vo temp root exploir, I quoted here and linked to in my previous post in this thread, exploited an area inside the kernel.
The kernel was patched in software release 2.08*. the fre3vo exploit is not related to hboot or hboot version. The hboot version number 1.5 coincided with software release 2.08* but did not patch the temp root exploit itself.
The kernel update in software version 2.08* and assuming all future versions has/will be patched against the fre3vo exploit.
Also link for Flash Image GUI mentioned above, http://goo.gl/sNi7V . Thanks for the support! Works well when away from a computer but wanting to change kernels/ROMs!
Also, will echo the above post, should always use and become familar with custom recovery for backup proposes. There is not a very good way around this therefore it is strongly encouraged!
Hope the additional technical details help currently or in the future!
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Is this root method like unrevoked forever? Is this at the radio level or just a hacked hboot?
If later on, an OTA gets applied, will the phone still be s-off so I can just flash a recovery again?
Please don't respond 'dont take OTAs', because that's not what I'm asking.
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From what I have read it is at the radio level and OTA's shouldn't affect s-off.
vandon1 said:
Is this root method like unrevoked forever? Is this at the radio level or just a hacked hboot?
If later on, an OTA gets applied, will the phone still be s-off so I can just flash a recovery again?
Please don't respond 'dont take OTAs', because that's not what I'm asking.
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http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/revolutionary
From that page:
What does this do, then?
revolutionary will give you S-OFF either by a patched HBOOT or setting the secureflag to off on the device itself. This behaviour will depending on your particular device. Optionally it will also replace the stock Android recovery with a custom one, which adds many features including “nandroid” backups, the ability to use custom ROMs, and a greater amount of flexibility and customization of your Android phone.
Does this permanently unlock the NAND flash on my phone?
Yes. The default configuration of this tool disables the phone's security, which also disables the NAND locks placed on the storage by the bootloader.
All the info I know about is right there.
I also found this, which I'm not positive if this applies to our method, but I think it does. Interesting none the less: http://alpharev.nl/
From what I understand, S-off will remain no matter what, until you issue a fastboot command that is "fastboot oem setsecureflag3" You can see here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1194053 for a full tut on how to turn it back to S-on. SO yea, it's similar to unrevoked forever, where you're always S-off until you deliberately set it to S-on. Running an RUU doesn't even set it to S-on.
That all said, even though you said "don't tell me not to take OTA", I will remind you anyways, that it's always a sketchy thing, especially if HTC has included a new hboot in that OTA. To each their own though.
Thanks for the info, I missed that on the unrevoked site.
However, if it's S-Off in the radio, doesn't that mean that the hboot won't really matter? On the evo 4g at least, new hboots don't kill the s-off and you could always reflash a recovery from hboot.
I'm just wondering if you can flash a recovery with s-off from a stock hboot.
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Running an RUU doesn't even set it to S-on.
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Are you sure? I read this in the AlphaRev FAQ's
As soon as you decide to flash a stock RUU that has a HBOOT update in it, this hacked HBOOT will be overwritten.
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This is interesting, as I have been wondering how to get S-ON after running Revolutionary, should I need to take my device in for repairs.
What's your take on it?
mattchew86 said:
Are you sure? I read this in the AlphaRev FAQ's
This is interesting, as I have been wondering how to get S-ON after running Revolutionary, should I need to take my device in for repairs.
What's your take on it?
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I hear "fastboot oem setsecureflag3" works wonders.
Good info. Thanks
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So I'm getting a replacement thunderbolt in the mail sometime tomorrow I was told. My phone right now is unrooted and running MR2 with the MR2 radio as well. The thing is, is that I have s-off with Revolutionary. Is there any way to turn that back on? I don't even know if it will be a problem when I send it in, if they'll even look at that, but I'd rather be on the safe side.
Anyone know how I could get back to s-on after using Revolutionary?
Thanx for the help.
This file not only unroots your phone, it flashes the stock h boot as well. This worked for me 4 times, and I'll use it again later this week for the 5th time when I get my 6th t bolt.
http://androidforums.com/thunderbolt-all-things-root/309817-easy-way-unroot.html
I dont think that works for hboot if you used revolutionary method. At least it didnt for me. Only way i found was taking the hboot image out of that zip file and flashing it via adb. I think it has something to do with the revolutionary hboot being locked down to prevent it from being overwritten somehow.
And i really dont remember the adb commands used to flash it. I had to Google it.
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I dont think that works for hboot if you used revolutionary method. At least it didnt for me. Only way i found was taking the hboot image out of that zip file and flashing it via adb. I think it has something to do with the revolutionary hboot being locked down to prevent it from being overwritten somehow.
And i really dont remember the adb commands used to flash it. I had to Google it.
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There should be a link in my [q AND a] describing how to undo a Revolutionary S-off.
Ok, did have my phone rooted but one of the ROM's on here managed to cause problems so installed one of the factory HTC ROM's to unroot it and put it back should I need to send it to HTC to fix.
So after putting the stock HTC ROM on when I enter recovery mode it is now teling me that the handset is locked (bootloader is presume) also the it is still showing S-OFF.
It is showing the following so if someone can explain to a noob how to re-root it that would be fantastic.
SHOOTER_U PUT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT - 1.49.0018
RADIO-10.14.9020.06_M
eMMC-boot
Oct 3 2011,15:03:01
Any help is really appreciated as there is some really cool looking ROM's that I would like to try.
So, over 80 views and no-one has an answer for this?!
ratedr75 said:
Ok, did have my phone rooted but one of the ROM's on here managed to cause problems so installed one of the factory HTC ROM's to unroot it and put it back should I need to send it to HTC to fix.
So after putting the stock HTC ROM on when I enter recovery mode it is now teling me that the handset is locked (bootloader is presume) also the it is still showing S-OFF.
It is showing the following so if someone can explain to a noob how to re-root it that would be fantastic.
SHOOTER_U PUT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT - 1.49.0018
RADIO-10.14.9020.06_M
eMMC-boot
Oct 3 2011,15:03:01
Any help is really appreciated as there is some really cool looking ROM's that I would like to try.
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So, over 80 views and no-one has an answer for this?!
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Wow .. so originally you had an older hboot and used revolutionary to set s-off. Then you loaded a newer RUU which contained an hboot that was patched against revolutionary's s-off method.
Now you're on a newer hboot patched against revolutionary's s-off method, but you're still set s-off from previously using their method.
Don't see this situation very often. According to the theory, of how unrevoked set s-off and how I assume revolutionary is similar, you should still be s-off, as your bootloader shows, meaning your internal memory is NOT write protected.
In order to root your device, you should be able to fastboot flash a custom recovery. Boot into the custom recovery and load the normal superuser .zip or manually over adb push an su binary (I prefer aosp for developers) and chmod 4755 /system/bin/su . Both of those methods should give you root!
Hope that helps!
So if I install another ROM and try to goto recovery mode (which at the moment I am getting the triangle when I enter) I should be able to re-root this?
joeykrim said:
Wow .. so originally you had an older hboot and used revolutionary to set s-off. Then you loaded a newer RUU which contained an hboot that was patched against revolutionary's s-off method.
Now you're on a newer hboot patched against revolutionary's s-off method, but you're still set s-off from previously using their method.
Don't see this situation very often. According to the theory, of how unrevoked set s-off and how I assume revolutionary is similar, you should still be s-off, as your bootloader shows, meaning your internal memory is NOT write protected.
In order to root your device, you should be able to fastboot flash a custom recovery. Boot into the custom recovery and load the normal superuser .zip or manually over adb push an su binary (I prefer aosp for developers) and chmod 4755 /system/bin/su . Both of those methods should give you root!
Hope that helps!
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So if I install another ROM and try to goto recovery mode (which at the moment I am getting the triangle when I enter) I should be able to re-root this?
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I've quoted my previous post to highlight the steps outlined. I never mentioned anything about another ROM.
If the theory holds, as it was true for unrevoked's method of s-off and some members of unrevoked are now part of AlphaRevX releasing the revolutionary tool, you only need to flash a custom recovery through fastboot or bootloader.
If you have adb setup, it would literally take you 10 seconds to issue the fastboot command and another 10 seconds to reboot into recovery to see if t worked.
Currently, when you boot into recovery and you see the triangle, that is the stock recovery. Sometimes on the stock recovery screen, if you want to activate the menu, pressing vol up + pwr *should* work in stock recovery but sometimes manf like HTC change this function in the version of recovery they distribute.
Once you use the command: fastboot flash recovery c:\android\cwm-recovery.img , you should be able to boot into recovery and see the custom recovery load.
If that method doesnt work, the other method to attempt is loading a PG86IMG.zip file on the root of the sdcard with the custom recovery inside the PG86IMG.zip. Upon booting into the bootloader, it should scan this file and ask to update. If you select yes to update, the bootloader should flash and you should have a custom recovery.
If neither of those two methods work, you'll likely have to use the HTC unlock method. But I think those methods should work as your device still shows S-OFF.
Good luck!
Have tried all your methods and various other ones.
None of them work at all, a lot of the people on here seem to think that eveyrone has their abilities.
I could get an ADB shell up, the CMD prompt didn't work either.
The phone is going in its box and i'd rather spend some money on a phone that is easier to work with a windows 7 laptop.
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Have tried all your methods and various other ones.
None of them work at all, a lot of the people on here seem to think that eveyrone has their abilities.
I could get an ADB shell up, the CMD prompt didn't work either.
The phone is going in its box and i'd rather spend some money on a phone that is easier to work with a windows 7 laptop.
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The issues you're experiencing are due to HTC's complex locking method to deter root access. There are many Android devices which come stock with no locking protection or must less sophisticated locking protection.
If you're not able to properly setup adb, then the PG86IMG.zip method should be more convenient for you. All you need to do is put a PG86IMG.zip file onto the root (main dir) of your sdcard and holding vol down + pwr (boot into the bootloader). From here, it will scan the PG86IMG.zip and prompt if you want to load. Choose yes and this will flash the custom recovery.
Once the custom recovery is loaded, you should be able to flash a rooted ROM from, flash superuser .zip file or adb push su binary to restore root.
HTC intentionally makes this process difficult and it is relatively more difficult than other Android devices. All the resources are here at your disposal but HTC requires a bit more work/effort/learning to accomplish what is easier on some other Android devices. Although, even the Google Nexus S requires using fastboot to unlock t he device.
Nobody wants to see anybody give up and abandon. Hope that helps!
for whatever reason on the evo 3D, fastboot commands for things like flashing a recovery don't seem to work even with s-off. You need to put the custom recovery in a zip and name it PG86IMG then flash it from the bootloader and it will work.
fyi you should always be able to run a stock RUU (even new ones) because Revolutionary for the evo 3D gave you actual radio s-off and not just fake s-off with a patched hboot which is how Revolutionary worked on most phones. radio s-off pretty much means your phone will never go back to s-on even with a stock RUU. that is why you were able to upgrade the hboot and still keep s-off.
Thanks for the help guys. I'm going to give this one last try before I got and invest in an xperia arc s.
Does anyone have a decent download for the PG86IMG.zip file?
Ill try this at lunch, if not its away it goes.
patrick92260 said:
for whatever reason on the evo 3D, fastboot commands for things like flashing a recovery don't seem to work even with s-off.
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fastboot commands don't work on the EVO 3D? even for recovery?
I haven't seen this complaint on the Q&A board. Majority of users seem to have plenty of success using fastboot to flash kernels and custom recoveries. Although, majority of people posting on the Q&A board recently have the latest hboot and can only use HTC's unlock method. Perhaps this is only an issue on revolutionary s-off devices?
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Thanks for the help guys. I'm going to give this one last try before I got and invest in an xperia arc s.
Does anyone have a decent download for the PG86IMG.zip file?
Ill try this at lunch, if not its away it goes.
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I went to google.com and typed in the phrase, "twrp PG86IMG.zip" and the second link looks to be the quickest to obtaining the file:
http://teamw.in/project/twrp/67
I have heard pretty decent reports of Sony being fairly support of developers and allowing their devices to be unlocked and rooted.
Good Luck!
Thanks guys. Again. Now would anyone be interested in purchasing the EVO 3D GSM sim free from myself?
hi I am in the same position as the OP, just got my phone 2nd hand..want to flash LeeDroids Rom, my phone is GSM version, please advise how to get custom recovery..thanks
I just bought an EVO 3D off craigslist. The phone is unlocked and working with Cricket Wireless and gonna continue using it there and not with Sprint.
When I get into the bootloader. It says *UNLOCKED* 1.5 S=ON.
I was able to get into a CWM recovery.
I think it is rooted but unsure.
Do you have an app called super user or supersu installed?
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iTzLOLtrain said:
Do you have an app called super user or supersu installed?
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I just remembered how to check. It seems I am rooted as I was able to use the SU command in terminal and I have superuser installed.
Will I be able to install roms whats all this about 1.4 downgrade and S=Off?
Jeffmeister said:
I just bought an EVO 3D off craigslist. The phone is unlocked and working with Cricket Wireless and gonna continue using it there and not with Sprint.
When I get into the bootloader. It says *UNLOCKED* 1.5 S=ON.
I was able to get into a CWM recovery.
I think it is rooted but unsure.
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No, you're not rooted. You're unlocked...which is close, but no cigar. You'll have to "relock" your phone if you want to go back to 1.4 hboot with s-off. No biggie...took me half an hour at most. Just make sure you have the files you need at hand plus the live Linux cd/dvd.
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phillip1953 said:
No, you're not rooted. You're unlocked...which is close, but no cigar. You'll have to "relock" your phone if you want to go back to 1.4 hboot with s-off. No bigger...took me half an hour at most. Just make sure you have the files you need at hand plus the lived Linux cd/dvd.
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Incorrect. He is rooted. If he has superuser installed and is able to call the su command successfully in terminal he is rooted.
私のEVO 3Dから送信される。
dastin1015 said:
Incorrect. He is rooted. If he has superuser installed and is able to call the su command successfully in terminal he is rooted.
私のEVO 3Dから送信される。
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You are correct...but it's a half-assed root.
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Jeffmeister said:
Will I be able to install roms whats all this about 1.4 downgrade and S=Off?
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You are rooted just fine. Never heard of half assed rooted.
The only thing is your S-On so the partition where the radio/firmware are, you won't be able to change unless you go S-Off.
To answer your question, you can still flash many roms. Some ICS roms will not work because they require the new radio and firmware. Any GB rom and many ICS you can flash right now with no problems.
If you flash the newest 4ext Recovery, it will save you from having to manually flash the boot.img file separately after you install the rom. Although flashing the boot.img through the adb fastboot is no big deal.
phillip1953 said:
You are correct...but it's a half-assed root.
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No such thing as half-assed root. Either you are rooted or not. He just has S-ON meaning he cannot flash a custom PG86IMG.zip from the bootloader. Only PG86IMG.zip that are signed by HTC. Also he is limited to which partitions he can flash to.
Being unlocked is better than being rooted. Think of it as a low-level root. Like being able to tweak your BIOS settings instead of just being the admin user of Windows.
No it sucks. I spent 3 hours in boot loops the other night because of this f**king S-ON bs. My phone will not flash ANY ICS rims and any kernel that has overclocking capabilities puts me right back in the boot loop even using adb. My Evo 4G was rooted via Revolutionary, but this S-ON sucks. I hate it, but I'm not going to brick my phone to downgrade.
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negativzeroe said:
No it sucks. I spent 3 hours in boot loops the other night because of this f**king S-ON bs. My phone will not flash ANY ICS rims and any kernel that has overclocking capabilities puts me right back in the boot loop even using adb. My Evo 4G was rooted via Revolutionary, but this S-ON sucks. I hate it, but I'm not going to brick my phone to downgrade.
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You must be mistaking. S-ON devices are really hard to brick.
If they weren't HTC would be loosing lots of money.
The least trouble you will have to go by downgrasing is having a security warming on your bootloader which can be fixed by flashing the signed PG86IMG.zip file COMPLETELY.
And FYI, Downgrading isnt the only way possible to gain S-OFF.
There's also Juopunutbear S-OFF which can be found HERE.
Which will only require you to return to stock/unlocked with root access. and a simple wire trick.
Good luck in your future bootloops though and have a nice sunny day..
Jeffmeister said:
I just remembered how to check. It seems I am rooted as I was able to use the SU command in terminal and I have superuser installed.
Will I be able to install roms whats all this about 1.4 downgrade and S=Off?
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I don't understand why some are telling JeffMeister that he is not or just half rooted. If your bootloader says "hboot 1.5 S-ON Unlocked" and you have SU installed, that means you are rooted. Sure the boot partition is read-only, but theres easy ways around it.
I've had hboot 1.5 S-ON since I had my phone. I've never felt the need to get S-OFF because there are tools to get around that now. I've been flashing ROMS back and forth using various methods with no issues. For hboot 1.5 & S-ON users, the latest and greatest is 4EXT recovery. It did an excellent job at flashing custom roms & kernels as if I was S-OFF.
I suggest you read the basics about flashing and roms first. If you do use 4EXT Recovery, make sure "4EXT Smart Flash" is enabled(it will prompt you on first use).
Building on the Framework of my other apps, I present to you my easy, quick and efficient Rooting solution for ANY HTC Device.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1870652
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this works for all htc phones?what about if my bootloader is unlocked but not rooted.
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ddurb said:
this works for all htc phones?what about if my bootloader is unlocked but not rooted.
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Try it and see!
Need some help!
I decided to give this a try since it sounds like it has some potential to help get users rooted from stock configurations, or after flashing an OTA or RUU, even though I have been S-OFF via JuopunutBear for a while now. I figured I would try the rooting with an insecure boot.img first since that works for S-OFF, but got an error saying I didn't have the right boot.img installed. I had just flashed the latest Sprint ICS RUU.exe from Windows and wanted to see how this tool would work in that scenario.
So since it wanted a boot.img that I didn't have, I tried the universal exploit option but that gave me an error at the Windows level. The phone rebooted into recovery and I had to pull the battery and reboot into the stock ROM, which was fine.
I have attached screenshots of the info I got when I first started the app, the error I got when I tried to root with the exploit (I'm on Windows 7 Ultimate, Service Pack 1) and a text file containing the contents of the message in the scrollable details text box.
I'm also curious what bootloader gets flashed if that option is selected.
Please advise.
Edit: Just noticed that the version went from 1.1.10 that I downloaded yesterday to 1.1.12 today so I will reload the RUU and try that version.
ramjet73
ramjet73 said:
I decided to give this a try since it sounds like it has some potential to help get users rooted from stock configurations, or after flashing an OTA or RUU, even though I have been S-OFF via JuopunutBear for a while now. I figured I would try the rooting with an insecure boot.img first since that works for S-OFF, but got an error saying I didn't have the right boot.img installed. I had just flashed the latest Sprint ICS RUU.exe from Windows and wanted to see how this tool would work in that scenario.
So since it wanted a boot.img that I didn't have, I tried the universal exploit option but that gave me an error at the Windows level. The phone rebooted into recovery and I had to pull the battery and reboot into the stock ROM, which was fine.
I have attached screenshots of the info I got when I first started the app, the error I got when I tried to root with the exploit (I'm on Windows 7 Ultimate, Service Pack 1) and a text file containing the contents of the message in the scrollable details text box.
I'm also curious what bootloader gets flashed if that option is selected.
Please advise.
ramjet73
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You need htcdev unlock so you can get Su. Then it should work
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VictoriousShooter said:
You need htcdev unlock so you can get Su. Then it should work
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With S-OFF? That's strange, since the OP says that both options work with S-OFF. Also, I couldn't find any mention of htcdev unlock in either the OP or the application when it was running.
I'm not going to htcdev unlock since my bootloader is locked after JuopunutBear and I don't want to have to deal with the ***RELOCKED*** status. I guess I could try flashing a custom bootloader after running the RUU that will allow the fastboot commands, but that can only be done by S-OFF users and by the time that's done it's probably faster to go into fastboot and flash the custom recovery, then the superuser .zip or a rooted ROM from recovery.
I'm not sure where this tool fits exactly, but it sounds like it's mostly useful for people that have done the htcdev unlock but are still S-ON and want to root more easily. If that's the case, they can run this, then boot into Android and flash a custom recovery from an app like 4EXT or Flash Image GUI without having to use fastboot for either superuser or the recovery. Is that the gist of it?
BTW, my results with version 1.1.12 are attached. I got farther this time, but it failed on the temp root.
ramjet73
The errors seem to be causing confusion. If everything else says okay but the Universal Exploit says Failed then this means the exploit has been patched on the stock Rom you are trying to run it on.
Also only rooting via insecure boot.img requires s-off. Universal root will work with s-on if the exploit hasn't been patched.
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lyriquidperfection said:
The errors seem to be causing confusion. If everything else says okay but the Universal Exploit says Failed then this means the exploit has been patched on the stock Rom you are trying to run it on.
Also only rooting via insecure boot.img requires s-off. Universal root will work with s-on if the exploit hasn't been patched.
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So in other words, this tool won't work using the "universal exploit" (in quotes because I guess it's not really universal) on the official Sprint ICS build (2.89.651.2) for the Evo 3D, which is what I flashed via RUU.exe right before running it, regardless of the S-ON or S-OFF status? Would it work with an "insecure boot.img" if we are S-OFF and if so how would we set that up?
Assuming someone wanted to root the latest Sprint GB build (2.17.651.5) for the Evo 3D, what advantages does this tool provide over flashing a custom recovery and superuser .zip file from fastboot on a PC?
I'm not trying to be negative, just want to be clear on when someone on our device would benefit from using it.
ramjet73
ramjet73 said:
So in other words, this tool won't work using the "universal exploit" (in quotes because I guess it's not really universal) on the official Sprint ICS build (2.89.651.2) for the Evo 3D, which is what I flashed via RUU.exe right before running it, regardless of the S-ON or S-OFF status? Would it work with an "insecure boot.img" if we are S-OFF and if so how would we set that up?
Assuming someone wanted to root the latest Sprint GB build (2.17.651.5) for the Evo 3D, what advantages does this tool provide over flashing a custom recovery and superuser .zip file from fastboot on a PC?
I'm not trying to be negative, just want to be clear on when someone on our device would benefit from using it.
ramjet73
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Ramjet, I have tried it too and end up where you are at. I have done the HTC unlock too.
Can someone show the step by step because I hate to presume I'm doing it right.
I have the phone set and on home screen. I run the program and fails.
I reboot the fone into the boot screen (pwr/vol dn) and select fastboot (pwr press once) then the program works and then fails at the temp thingy..