[Q] Replacement Thunderbolt, S-Off - Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So I'm getting a replacement thunderbolt in the mail sometime tomorrow I was told. My phone right now is unrooted and running MR2 with the MR2 radio as well. The thing is, is that I have s-off with Revolutionary. Is there any way to turn that back on? I don't even know if it will be a problem when I send it in, if they'll even look at that, but I'd rather be on the safe side.
Anyone know how I could get back to s-on after using Revolutionary?
Thanx for the help.

This file not only unroots your phone, it flashes the stock h boot as well. This worked for me 4 times, and I'll use it again later this week for the 5th time when I get my 6th t bolt.
http://androidforums.com/thunderbolt-all-things-root/309817-easy-way-unroot.html

I dont think that works for hboot if you used revolutionary method. At least it didnt for me. Only way i found was taking the hboot image out of that zip file and flashing it via adb. I think it has something to do with the revolutionary hboot being locked down to prevent it from being overwritten somehow.
And i really dont remember the adb commands used to flash it. I had to Google it.
Sent from my ADR6400L using Tapatalk

bpyazel said:
I dont think that works for hboot if you used revolutionary method. At least it didnt for me. Only way i found was taking the hboot image out of that zip file and flashing it via adb. I think it has something to do with the revolutionary hboot being locked down to prevent it from being overwritten somehow.
And i really dont remember the adb commands used to flash it. I had to Google it.
Sent from my ADR6400L using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There should be a link in my [q AND a] describing how to undo a Revolutionary S-off.

Related

[Q] patched hboot not working when flashing

im trying to root the 2.07.605.0 gb leak and it says the first step is to flash hboot and it not working will someone help me
What are you using to root?
Sent from my HTC Thunderbolt
When I loaded the newest leak I went to HBOOT and it said locked down lol.
JBO1018 said:
What are you using to root?
Sent from my HTC Thunderbolt
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
idk i have a mac and this is my first time
When I looked at he 2.10 version it said the same thing. I didnt try anything with it once I saw that. Hope verizon doesnt mind when they get it back as a replacement.
blueis300 said:
When I looked at he 2.10 version it said the same thing. I didnt try anything with it once I saw that. Hope verizon doesnt mind when they get it back as a replacement.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You might just end up with the retail price of a Thunderbolt on your next bill. Really tho they will be able to take one look and see you are running leaked software.
BTW the pink "Locked" at the top of hboot has to do with having HTC's official unlock capabilities built in. You can still root that build easily.
Sent from my HTC Thunderbolt
codyh666 said:
idk i have a mac and this is my first time
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well I don't know of any root method where the first thing you do is flash an hboot so..... Also the only way I know of for sure to root that build is with Revolutionary but I don't think there is a mac version. Plus it makes it somewhat hard to get back to stock when you use Revolutionary.
Sent from my HTC Thunderbolt
***LOCKED*** On Bootloader
Hello All,
First of all thanks for the awesome easy guide !!
This is the first time I am rooting my HTC Tbolt and have had an issue to start with.
Used the instructions in the link below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1401959
After I download the 2.11.605.5 downgrade zip, I rename it, put in on the SD Card and go to HBOOT and it installs the downgrade just fine.
But at the end of this process, when I try to get the MR4 Radio onto the SD Card and install it, it simply does not happen. HBoot checks for the file, finds it, but nothing happens. I have renamed in properly and followed instructions to the dot.
I also noticed a ***LOCKED*** right on top of the screen and I think this could be an issue.
Can I go ahead and proceed with the Revolutionary Root Technique ? Would this be possible at this point ?
Is there anyway I can get Flash the MR4 Radio before I actually root ?
Also, would I be able to flash the MR4 Radio onto my device after Rooting ?
Any help is much appreciated !
Thanks in advance !
Cheers !

[Q] Want S-off but not sure about process.

I have my thunderbolt rooted but S-On and I want to get S-off using the Revolutionary tool but the beta key generator tells me to put my HBOOT version number. In recovery mode my thunderbolt says:
HBOOT- 0.95.0000
MICROP-/
RADIO- 1.02.00.0103_2R
So is 0.95.0000 my Hboot version number because the beta key only gives me the options for 1.04.0000 and 1.05.0000. Does this mean I can not use revolutionary tool?
rayishu said:
I have my thunderbolt rooted but S-On and I want to get S-off using the Revolutionary tool but the beta key generator tells me to put my HBOOT version number. In recovery mode my thunderbolt says:
HBOOT- 0.95.0000
MICROP-/
RADIO- 1.02.00.0103_2R
So is 0.95.0000 my Hboot version number because the beta key only gives me the options for 1.04.0000 and 1.05.0000. Does this mean I can not use revolutionary tool?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That is your Hboot version. What you can do is accept the OTA to 1.70 which will bring your Hboot up to modern spec, then use Revolution. Or, you can flash the 1.70 RUU which will do the same thing. Your third option, which will work on any device, is the old jcase method using ADB.
When trying to update on the phone it says No new updates available. Ive unfrozen all the verizon bloatware and I am still finding no new updates.
Where can I find the 1.70 RUU? and in order to flash it all I have to do is put the .img file on my sd card root and boot into recovery right?
Thanks in advance for all the help. I realize how uninformed I must come off.
rayishu said:
When trying to update on the phone it says No new updates available. Ive unfrozen all the verizon bloatware and I am still finding no new updates.
Where can I find the 1.70 RUU? and in order to flash it all I have to do is put the .img file on my sd card root and boot into recovery right?
Thanks in advance for all the help. I realize how uninformed I must come off.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, that's why I wrote the thread at the top of the Q&A Forum. It explains a good deal of things, but not everything. This is the link to the RUU. Just name it PG05IMG.zip and flash it via bootloader, not recovery. You will loose your root, but once you're S-off again, restoring it won't be any big deal. I'm not sure if it will wipe your phone or not, but even if it doesn't, I'd still backup all your stuff.
Thank you so much for all the help. Ill attempt it all now. Hopefully everything goes smoothly
Use adb its more fun and if you are like me you will learn something LOL
Sent from my Thunderbolt running Uber Bamf Preview 3!
I liked adb but have not had a reason to use it since. I need to get a book of codes for it
Sent from my ADR6400L using XDA App
Well flashaholics like yours truly use it occasionally to push boot anims and stuff just because I can LOL
Sent from my Thunderbolt running Uber Bamf Preview 3!
I have gotten S-Off and updated my radio to mr3.5. But I no longer have root. Im trying to get the SynergyRom on my phone but I am stuck on how to do it because I no longer have root.
Any suggestions?
If you have s-off you should be able to download superuser and either install the apk or push via adb and gain root. If it works for ya hit thanks if not tell us what happened...
Sent from my Thunderbolt running Uber Bamf Preview 3!
RevosFTS said:
Well flashaholics like yours truly use it occasionally to push boot anims and stuff just because I can LOL
Sent from my Thunderbolt running Uber Bamf Preview 3!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am going to have to use it to push a boot animation as well just saw the instructions to do it. Getting tired of same one.
Sent from my ADR6400L using XDA App
Making em is difficult but fun if you can get a custom one on there...
Sent from my Thunderbolt running CM7...

What's the difference between "Ship" and "ENG" Bootloader?

I rootrd my Thunderbolt using Jcase's manual method shortly after the phone was released. I have the following (unimportant or matching info omitted):
MECHA XD ENG S-OFF
HBOOT 1.04.2000
A friend just rooted using Revolutionary and he has the following:
MECHA XD SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT 6.04.1002
I've been reading some info about Revolutionary and it looks like the program essentially turns off security so you can install SuperUser and flash CWM Recovery. I assume it does not replace the stock (SHIP) bootloader. Does this limit the phone at all? Can he still flash radios through bootloader? What's the easiest/safest way to install the engineering bootloader, or is it even needed?
I noticed that bootloader and CWM both say Revolutionary as well now. Any modifications going on behind the scenes that I may need to know? I ask all of this because his phone has been force closing a lot and "messing up" so I'm going to be fixing it. I've onpy had my hands on the device for about 5 minutes so that's really all of the info I know about it.
Any/all feedback is appreciated!
Sent from my ADR6400L using Tapatalk
joshw0000 said:
I rootrd my Thunderbolt using Jcase's manual method shortly after the phone was released. I have the following (unimportant or matching info omitted):
MECHA XD ENG S-OFF
HBOOT 1.04.2000
A friend just rooted using Revolutionary and he has the following:
MECHA XD SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT 6.04.1002
I've been reading some info about Revolutionary and it looks like the program essentially turns off security so you can install SuperUser and flash CWM Recovery. I assume it does not replace the stock (SHIP) bootloader. Does this limit the phone at all? Can he still flash radios through bootloader? What's the easiest/safest way to install the engineering bootloader, or is it even needed?
I noticed that bootloader and CWM both say Revolutionary as well now. Any modifications going on behind the scenes that I may need to know? I ask all of this because his phone has been force closing a lot and "messing up" so I'm going to be fixing it. I've onpy had my hands on the device for about 5 minutes so that's really all of the info I know about it.
Any/all feedback is appreciated!
Sent from my ADR6400L using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Actually, Revolutionary does replace the bootloader. The difference between the ADB method and Revolutionary is that ADB uses a soft-patched engineering bootloader, whereas Revolutionary uses a hard-patched release version of the bootloader.
So basically what you're saying is I can flash another hboot over my hboot and it would take (i.e. I could act stupid and brick the phone) but if you use Revolutionary you can flash whatever in hboot but the actual hboot will not be replaced? Or is there a different meaning implied?
Sent from my ADR6400L using Tapatalk
joshw0000 said:
So basically what you're saying is I can flash another hboot over my hboot and it would take (i.e. I could act stupid and brick the phone) but if you use Revolutionary you can flash whatever in hboot but the actual hboot will not be replaced? Or is there a different meaning implied?
Sent from my ADR6400L using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
As far as I know, the Revolutionary hboot is patched to prevent flashing over. I don't know all the ins and outs. Never used the newer hboot because... if it's not broke, I don't fix it.
Alright, thanks for sending your thoughts. I don't think anything with the rooting method is causing his problem. I'll reflash the official MR2, do a full wipe, and install a fresh rom. He'll be good as new.
Sent from my ADR6400L using Tapatalk
joshw0000 said:
Alright, thanks for sending your thoughts. I don't think anything with the rooting method is causing his problem. I'll reflash the official MR2, do a full wipe, and install a fresh rom. He'll be good as new.
Sent from my ADR6400L using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I hope you're not saying you're going to flash the MR2 RUU.... If you do you'll loose your recovery.
joshw0000 said:
So basically what you're saying is I can flash another hboot over my hboot and it would take (i.e. I could act stupid and brick the phone) but if you use Revolutionary you can flash whatever in hboot but the actual hboot will not be replaced? Or is there a different meaning implied?
Sent from my ADR6400L using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Correct. The only way to overwrite revolutionary hboot (that i know of) is to flash a new one with adb.
Sent from my HTC ThunderBolt using Tapatalk
loonatik78 said:
I hope you're not saying you're going to flash the MR2 RUU.... If you do you'll loose your recovery.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No I flashed the MR2 radio only. I'm pretty sure he already had that radio but I did it just to make sure.
Sent from my ADR6400L using Tapatalk

broken port need s-on before i send back to vzw

ok. im a lil confused. heres my situation. i rooted with revolutionary. then my charging port broke and now im stuck with root. i dont want to return the phone like that so im tryin to find a way to unroot before i return it so i can avoid the hassle of tryin to convince verizon not to honor my warrantee for a defective chargin port. since i didnt have access to the charging port i let the phone update to see if it would kind of knock the root off the phone and return it to stock. well it looks like its back to stock but when i reboot using the power button and vol down button it says "revolutionary" and "s-off"
so i figured im still rooted and i was going to try and use the adb wireless method but when i go to install busybox or adb wireless it tells me i need to have my phone rooted. i thought s off meant it was. guess not.
can anyone tell me how someone in this situation would get the security back on and the revolutionary stuff off my phone ?
Edit/Delete Message
btw when i try an open up the adb wireless app it says my kernel does not have all the neccessary features to run this app if that helps any
Have you tried taking out thevsd card and putting it into a computer to get the original rom file
Sent from my ADR6400L using xda premium
Yeah I have tried several different methods of doing that but they said that when you roily with revolutionary there's something special you need to do to the phonen to override it when unrooting because th revolutionary method locks it.
I think you're just going to have to send it in as is. The only way i know to remove revolutionary hboot is through adb/fastboot commands.
Sent from my ADR6400L using Tapatalk
have to do this,,,,
hboot was replaced with revolutionary, so running a stock RUU should put it back. s-off is unlocked NAND and signing, so although part of root, is not root in itself. A stock RUU 'can' put s-on back but I am not sure for sure if it does. It is really just setting of some bits and stuff, so give that a try if it has to go back anyway it is the best way to wipe it anyway.
Did you find a way to fix the problem? Or are you going to take a chance and send it in as is?
Sent from my ADR6400L using xda premium
madman34 said:
hboot was replaced with revolutionary, so running a stock RUU should put it back. s-off is unlocked NAND and signing, so although part of root, is not root in itself. A stock RUU 'can' put s-on back but I am not sure for sure if it does. It is really just setting of some bits and stuff, so give that a try if it has to go back anyway it is the best way to wipe it anyway.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The revolutionary hboot can't be overwritten by an ruu. It was designed so it can't be. The only way to do it is from a computer through the usb cable.
Sent from my ADR6400L using Tapatalk
Grr... Not liking the new Tapatalk.
Sent from my ADR6400L using Tapatalk
Drop your phone down some stairs. It will be super broken. Still covered under wty. They won't look at your phone except to say, "yep. It's f-ing broke". Then toss it in the trash...
Sent from my Eternity Infected TB

Need some help with new Rezound

I received a replacement Rezound today and have messed it up beyond my repair. When I powered the new phone on it was on the old GB software. I manually searched for an update which was finally found. I downloaded the update and went through the process of installing it. About half way through the update, a red triangle with an exclamation point appeard. I tried this process twice and then decided to run the RUU that I had installed on my sd card from my prior phone. The RUU was the most recent ICS.
At this point I was not S-off or rooted, but completly stock. The RUU did not fully run but it did update my HBOOT and Radio's. When I boot the phone, it is still on GB software. I have some how changed my bootloader to show Tampered as well.
I was able to flash a zip file of AmonRa 3.15 and was able to flash ViperRom 1.03. I thought this would correct the problems and allow me to S-Off but it did not.
I thought that if I could S-off I could maybe get this all straight. But I am not sure.
At this point, I have a phone that reboots after a few short minutes.
Any help will be greatly appreciated!!
Romans8vs1 said:
I received a replacement Rezound today and have messed it up beyond my repair. When I powered the new phone on it was on the old GB software. I manually searched for an update which was finally found. I downloaded the update and went through the process of installing it. About half way through the update, a red triangle with an exclamation point appeard. I tried this process twice and then decided to run the RUU that I had installed on my sd card from my prior phone. The RUU was the most recent ICS.
At this point I was not S-off or rooted, but completly stock. The RUU did not fully run but it did update my HBOOT and Radio's. When I boot the phone, it is still on GB software. I have some how changed my bootloader to show Tampered as well.
I was able to flash a zip file of AmonRa 3.15 and was able to flash ViperRom 1.03. I thought this would correct the problems and allow me to S-Off but it did not.
I thought that if I could S-off I could maybe get this all straight. But I am not sure.
At this point, I have a phone that reboots after a few short minutes.
Any help will be greatly appreciated!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If it tanked doing the OTA ICS update right out of the box, I'd call VZW for another phone...
Thank you for the reply, but my hboot now says tampered and relocked. I do not think I could send the phone back in this condition and get a new one.
Anyone else have any ideas?
Un-lock using HTC unlock then s-off your phone using some wire tied to a couple thumb tacks. Run latest ruu again, then install recovery, then flash Rom.
Sent from my ADR6425LVW using xda app-developers app
iHateWebOS said:
Un-lock using HTC unlock then s-off your phone using some wire tied to a couple thumb tacks. Run latest ruu again, then install recovery, then flash Rom.
Sent from my ADR6425LVW using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Why on earth do you hate WebOS?!?
I wasted a lot of life thinking it was the greatest....... Lies! Lies! Do you have any idea how lucky android users are to have on device recovery? When ya boot loop a webos phone ya need to hook up to a computer no matter what ya did wrong. Now I just restore a nandroid....I was so happy when I upgraded to a pre 2.... Now I just feel dumb for staying with webos for so long
Sent from my ADR6425LVW using xda app-developers app
AshtonTS said:
Why on earth do you hate WebOS?!?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Why do you not hate webOS? Awful.
In case anyone else has this problem, I was able to re-lock and flash the RUU through adb to get everything corrected. I'm now rooted, S-off, and running inef 1.2!

Categories

Resources