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Noticing a whole stack of them in the case at a local Bestbuy, I asked 2 store managers and 2 other dept employees about the new Razr. They ALL said it was a non-event, although Motorola had invested $mils in advertising. Evidently, it was designed and put into production months ago, and nowadays that's just not quick enough for the Android market. Things simply evolve much faster than Motorola's bureaucracy can adjust.
Biggest reason customers put it back on the shelf: Soldered in, non-replaceable battery.
Reason #2 : The screen is a yawner. It's boring, old news.
Reason #3 : It's new, it's gonna have bugs, and customers simply don't have to put up with that.
#4: $299 w/contract - and you're stuck with it for 2 years.
Is this phone locked? Can it be flashed? Just curious - one of them told me it can't be rom'ed. Would Mot be that monopolistic ?
According to one of the phone-dept workers, a good chunk of sales have been returned overnight after a disappointing unboxing/testing.
Frankly, I thought the phone was a pretty solid piece of work - especially compared to the plastic Samsungs. I love it's little slots on the side for XD cards, NICE touch. But alas, the screen is, well, is just isn't. Not with the 1200x800's about to hit around Thanksgiving.
Oh well, one of them said Mot's is already planning a Razr-2 in Jan to fix all this stuff, but now they're behind the power curve. Who knows.
I think Amazon offering the phone for $111.11 or Costco including $100+ in extras is why Best Buy isn't selling many.
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I think Amazon offering the phone for $111.11 or Costco including $100+ in extras is why Best Buy isn't selling many.
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This.
Also the phone needs recovery at this point I believe. It can certainly be "Rom-ed" but it just can't be "Kernel'ed". That is a pretty lame deal breaker if you want a phone simply to install different kernels to boost your quadrant scores that no one cares about.
If you ask me I agree the phone is amazing, I love it. The screen is mind blowing to me, so I have no problem paying that and being in a contract for it. I guess one needs to consider all the options customers have at this point, mainly with the iphone on verizon now. Every average jo wants an iphone just cause his neighbor has one.
Anyone true tech enthusiast wouldn't buy from Best Buy LOL (I've went there with a friend that insisted I do for Black Friday). That place is terrible and is a total rip off. Geek squad and the employees (I haven't spoke to a single one that seems to know what they're doing/talking about) yeah they're something else. I highly doubt there's going to be a RAZR 2 coming out in Jan, it's probably the DROID 4, which has similar design but also has a physical keyboard. If it definitely is the the RAZR 2 this will be my last Motorola phone period. If their solution is to just make a new device like 2-3 months later, instead of supporting their most current phones, then that's a bad business model for sure.
Sure there probably will be a RAZR 2, but I personally hope not, seeing it would kinda tarnish the fact that it's a unique device/name series. But yeah with Amazon selling the device for 111.11 on 11/11 and Costco with that beast package, and a good majority of people pre ordering to get the phone early (one day w00t). It's not a surprise that Best Buy isn't pushing the phones like hotcakes. Also I would take anything that Best Buy tells you about Android rumors with a grain of salt.
I wouldn't go to best buy if they were the ONLY brick and mortar selling phones. I'd wait the 2 days for UPS.
Anyone with good common sense wouldn't go to BB for their phones even with their instant rebate deals. Their "insurance" plan is a rip off and the fact Amazon was selling it for 111.11 on the day of release (as someone said earlier) is reason enough for BB to not see this phone flying off shelves.
Add to the fact, all the advertising dollars Verizon spent, pointed to the phone being sold BY VERIZON STORES. I have a friend who works for verizon and she sold out of the RAZR within a couple hours and her store had a couple hundred of them.
SO don't go drinking Best Buy's kool aid. Especially when they know nothing of phones (let alone the products they sell as a whole)
the OP is completely full of crap... so is anyone else that says the removable battery is a "no go". did the soldered in battery hurt Iphone?
the screen on this phone is fantastic, anyone who wants to complain about it is a person that will never be happy with anything.
bugs? this is the least buggy phone that i have ever owned.
im nowhere near a moto fan boy, but these complainers need to jus STFU, the Razr is a sweet phone.......
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SO don't go drinking Best Buy's kool aid. Especially when they know nothing of phones (let alone the products they sell as a whole)
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I lol'd. BB is terrible for computers/phones etc (Newegg for life!). Anyways the fact that they're saying there's a RAZR 2 coming out in like 4 months yeahhh no. Droid 4 probably aka RAZR jr w/ a keyboard, will be nice for those that crave physical keyborads. But I doubt moto is gonna pull another "Bionic" deal with the RAZR. Replacing their flagship so soon after it comes out, I'm trying to retain faith lol.
They do have a 30 day return policy. Also the insurance gets you a new phone (but you have to wait 17 months to get it).
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I gotta admit it's faster than my amaze and even my gs2, this thing is SNAPPY without even being modded yet
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They do have a 30 day return policy. Also the insurance gets you a new phone (but you have to wait 17 months to get it).
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If I wanted to buy a phone in store I'd go with Costco. 90 day return policy +
sexy bundles.
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I gotta admit it's faster than my amaze and even my gs2, this thing is SNAPPY without even being modded yet
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Imo it's all about software optimization. Hardware on these phones are ahead of the software that's out there for sure. GS2 is a beast when it first came out, and still is.
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Not soldered, check this link. I guess the people you were talking to don't really know their stuff.
What I want to know is this guys "source" stating there's going to be a RAZR 2 coming out in Jan. Ahh those BB kids will say anything now adays.
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WTF? The battery is replaceable: it isn't soldered. You need to remove two screws on the battery flat cable and your battery can be removed.
Yup, not like other phones where you simply use your fingers, but that's it.
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Reason #2 : The screen is a yawner. It's boring, old news.
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I think not so many devices are built with AMOLED displays (powerwise, good vibrance, good color).
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Reason #3 : It's new, it's gonna have bugs, and customers simply don't have to put up with that.
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I don't think so. Motorola have learnt this from his past. Milestone was buggy.. but watch at the first ATRIX ROM: there wasn't any important bug at all. They've only enhanced its speed with the updates as personally I haven't noticed any bug.
And anyway, every first S/W version of every pda has got some bugs, that's absolutely normal, with the exception that Motorola is very fast at updates.
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#4: $299 w/contract - and you're stuck with it for 2 years.
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I've bought it at 550 euros. It's mine and I'm not stuck with it for 35 years
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Is this phone locked? Can it be flashed? Just curious - one of them told me it can't be rom'ed. Would Mot be that monopolistic ?
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This device is another exception in Motorola's policies. Moto uses to sign their devices forever, but as Moto said and confirmed publicly, like happened on ATRIX for the Gingerbread update, when RAZR will get ICS, Moto will give us an unlockable bootloader, thing that is SURE for non branded devices and for branded ones (like Verizon's...) it's about the operator.
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According to one of the phone-dept workers, a good chunk of sales have been returned overnight after a disappointing unboxing/testing.
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I know of some guys that have bought the RAZR, unboxed, tested for 30 minutes and then re-sold it. It was too big for their hands. I don't know other bad things as for now.
Anyway, in my opinion, you should try the device in a store prior buying it, especially if it is a big device and you've got small hands.
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Frankly, I thought the phone was a pretty solid piece of work - especially compared to the plastic Samsungs. I love it's little slots on the side for XD cards, NICE touch. But alas, the screen is, well, is just isn't. Not with the 1200x800's about to hit around Thanksgiving.
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Oh damn, my SGS2 won't resist to a drop on asphalt, while my ATRIX is still alive. Moto's build quality has ever been Moto's build quality
As for the screen, it's really, really good because it's an AMOLED display.. but I have to admit I haven't ever liked the PenTile matrix.
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Oh well, one of them said Mot's is already planning a Razr-2 in Jan to fix all this stuff, but now they're behind the power curve. Who knows.
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Mmh, I don't think so, at least for now. They've just released the RAZR.
That would cut their RAZR sales and make them lose a lot of money.
I guess everyone who did buy a RAZR, and is happy with it (myself included) should throw our device away and hang our heads in share, based on this information from the always solid reliable and correct Best Buy store employees.
Anyone know what the Costco bundle for the RAZR comes with?
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Not soldered, check this link. I guess the people you were talking to don't really know their stuff.
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lmao that's a big a$$ knife
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I guess everyone who did buy a RAZR, and is happy with it (myself included) should throw our device away and hang our heads in share, based on this information from the always solid reliable and correct Best Buy store employees.
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Yes! Cause we all know that Best Buy store employees are always right !!!!
Since I agree with most of these Bestbuy comments, I made a trip over to the Verizon store. Hit 3 actually, one is the largest in the state. Guess what - there were dozens of new razr's in stock there too.
Not convinced, I asked around, speaking to 3-4 employees in each store. They all said the same thing the Bestbuy people did - the phone is a 7 month old semi face lift of some earlier Mot phone, and simply put nobody cares for it and nobody's impressed. Same list of complaints earlier in this thread.
"What's everybody waiting for" I asked? Everyone said the same thing: the high res screens that are about to hit. Namely the SAMSUNG Nexus is the first of a long list of new generation phones, we may see 6-7 by EOY they told me
So all the excitement between the new EVO LTE and S3 got me thinking about the next motorola phone. I know moto has a bad rep about locking the phones down hard and not having good customer relations. Google may make major changes as to how moto operates (think they will). I love the RAZR/RAZR Maxx look. And the most important thing for me is that its an American company, not one from Taiwan. This doesn't effect most people, but for me it is something I keep in consideration when buying just about everything.
Since Google now has control, I'm not so sure the phones to come will be locked so hard. Considering how Samsung and HTC are unlocking bootloaders now, and let's be honest...Android know's what we the people want. As much as I want the new EVO (I'd even be happy with the S3 :/ )....I think the next phone they develope is going to be badass. I hope that they at least jump off Verizons u know what and offer it on Sprint as well.
Just curious what anyone else thinks. It's hard to wait for something that might not happen the way I think/want. The EVO LTE is calling my name.
Should be the next nexus and i have a feeling its gonna be quad core and a 12mp camera minimum
This probably belongs in a different thread.
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From what I remember, google only bought motorola for their patents. TBH I see the next nexuses from Samsung only.
I personally hope Samsung is taken off the nexus line. A nexus is supposed to be ahead of all other phones. When HTC made the nexus one, it was ahead of anything out at the time, and for a long time. If you look at the specs no phone was on par with it until the evo 4g and the epic. Samsung made the nexus s which came out a year and a half ago and its honestly crap. My mom has one and my epic works better than that on cm9. The last two Samsung nexus phones have not been so good. Even the gnex, being a good phone, doesn't have anything we haven't seen before. Moto or HTC should be the next nexus makers
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For Google to have bought Motorola and not utilize it would be kind stupid. I'm not saying they should make something so good that others get pissed and actually start making they're own OS. But to use moto for their "nexus" line is a no brainer. And make it kinda special to say the least.
And if this thread does belong somewhere else, mod please...by all means. Just let me know where u put it. I just know by the badass new devices that have been/are to be released have me thinking of moving on and I assume others who haven't, are still possibly thinking. And as much as I have grown to love HTC, this could turn out to indeed be bigger then the new EVO and S3.....or maybe not?
There are a few remarks here that have me wondering/excited.
http://investor.google.com/releases/2012/0522.html
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From what I remember, google only bought motorola for their patents. TBH I see the next nexuses from Samsung only.
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Correct, because Apple is suing and stealing everything else and Google is protecting their investments. Motorola apparently has some major patents on things that Apple does not like and wants.
I just so happen to be reading the review by BGR.com of the DNA because I've never seen it before. I came across this... "There are also concerns about HTC and future software updates since it isn’t clear if HTC’s recent smartphones will ever see Android 4.2 or any other future versions of the operating system." Now this left me scratching my head, and asking myself why? Can this be true? Did I just buy a brand new dud phone? Is HTC really doing that bad?
Now, I love my new phone, but reading that leaves me with some concern. If anyone can shine some light on this topic please do so. I'm just hoping the editor was just talking out of his ass, because HTC is in a light struggle right now, and wanted to beef up his review. Well, I still have a little over a week to return the phone if I need to. I guess I better start digging for answers before its too late?
HTC doesnt really pushes as many updates as others do, atleast what i have seen till now, i could be wrong but i wont actually be worrying about that because the devs here at XDA make our phones awesome. I am currently on Captivate which recently got a GB update from Samsung but thanks to all the devs here, i am running JB on it So , just trust the devs here & keep the phone !
Why can't these phone makers keep rom development going for the entire period warrantied by them as soon as the phone is released, so if it came out say next week it would be supported for atleast a year jeez.
Although I would prefer an official update from HTC to stay current, that's not stopping me from putting a different rom on my phone!
Are phone makers lazy or just constantly switching support bases for their dev teams?
You guys shouldn't believe everything you read . This phone we hold in our hands " the j butterfly" wasn't even supposed to see American soil , and look what happened. HTC may be slow at updating but since everybody knows this its your choice to come here and wait . Release of an update is depending on not only HTC releasing it , its also dependent on Verizon giving it the final seal of approval. And my self would be happy to wait , phone just got unlock, and good things are just starting to happen . :beer:
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BGR is trolling. There was a rumor that HTC was developing their own OS or forking Android. I am sure that is where they are drawing their conclusions from, despite that being a false rumor that has been around for a year or two. HTC would be committing mobile suicide, because Google won't license their app store to non-Android devices (that I know of).
The DNA will likely see 4.2. Probably not past that though. HTC (and Samsung, Moto, etc) typically don't update phones past one Android version upgrade.
PS - the Butterfly is an off-shoot of the DNA, not the other way around. I have that directly from HTC. The DNA was developed at VZWs direction, and since the Butterfly would not compete, permission was given for it's release.
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PS - the Butterfly is an off-shoot of the DNA, not the other way around. I have that directly from HTC. The DNA was developed at VZWs direction, and since the Butterfly would not compete, permission was given for it's release.
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Proof?
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Proof?
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Asking dsb for proof is like asking the church to supply you with proof of god or Jesus for that matter ... Just believe him , he knows what he's talking about ... Besides what would he gain by not being honest? This isn't a pissing match in the slightest
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Asking dsb for proof is like asking the church to supply you with proof of god or Jesus for that matter ... Just believe him , he knows what he's talking about ... Besides what would he gain by not being honest? This isn't a pissing match in the slightest
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I know where dsb started, thanks. I still would like proof. The J Butterfly was out well before the DNA, so it seems weird that the DNA would be the parent device.
I don't just believe anyone, regardless of their status.
Just like his advice to switch to LTE/CDMA to get SVDO working, which does not work.
I apologize for coming off as rude, but asking for proof should not be met with blind fanboyism.
The DNA is a Verizon variant of the phone that was previously released in Japan as the J Butterfly. I covered both devices for Rootzwiki News, and every other credible source I read from said that the J Butterfly was the first HTC device with the Snapdragon S4 Pro chipset and the 5-inch 1080p display. The J Butterfly, the Droid DNA, and the DLX are all variants of the same phone, but the DNA was definitely not the first one of the group.
PS - the Butterfly is an off-shoot of the DNA, not the other way around. I have that directly from HTC. The DNA was developed at VZWs direction, and since the Butterfly would not compete, permission was given for it's release.
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So is it possible that an International DLX won't be coming? Since it's Unlocked GSM and would work on ATT and Tmo.
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The DNA is a Verizon variant of the phone that was previously released in Japan as the J Butterfly. I covered both devices for Rootzwiki News, and every other credible source I read from said that the J Butterfly was the first HTC device with the Snapdragon S4 Pro chipset and the 5-inch 1080p display. The J Butterfly, the Droid DNA, and the DLX are all variants of the same phone, but the DNA was definitely not the first one of the group.
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While time-frame-wise that is entirely true, however when the phones were thought of/created as opposed to released are two different things. Not saying you're wrong, just that the DNA could have been created by HTC first, then the J. VZW could have easily pushed the release past the J.
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So is it possible that an International DLX won't be coming? Since it's Unlocked GSM and would work on ATT and Tmo.
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There will be a DLX - there's no way T-Mobile and AT&T are going to pass on a 1080p HTC phone with a 1080p display and a quad-core Snapdragon S4 Pro chipset. AT&T might try to make its own locked-down variant, but the other carriers are not going tollet Verizon have the only U.S. version of this monster - especially since there has been no word that I've seen of any exclusivity clause for Verizon.
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While time-frame-wise that is entirely true, however when the phones were thought of/created as opposed to released are two different things. Not saying you're wrong, just that the DNA could have been created by HTC first, then the J. VZW could have easily pushed the release past the J.
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Hence I asked for proof Otherwise it is an unsubstantiated rumor.
I don't think the j butterfly is out yet in Japan?? They just had a press release, pending December launch.
I could be wrong but try and find the butterfly for sale??
Also adynalyne, god I missed your work from the thunderbolt days... Been itching for some BAMFness
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I don't think the j butterfly is out yet in Japan?? They just had a press release, pending December launch.
I could be wrong but try and find the butterfly for sale??
Also adynalyne, god I missed your work from the thunderbolt days... Been itching for some BAMFness
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I'm still evaluating.
You are right though. I don't know if it was released or not. I can't find confirmation either way.
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I know where dsb started, thanks. I still would like proof. The J Butterfly was out well before the DNA, so it seems weird that the DNA would be the parent device.
I don't just believe anyone, regardless of their status.
Just like his advice to switch to LTE/CDMA to get SVDO working, which does not work.
I apologize for coming off as rude, but asking for proof should not be met with blind fanboyism.
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No , not a fan boy here ... Was just messing with ya , calm down Skippy
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I just so happen to be reading the review by BGR.com of the DNA because I've never seen it before. I came across this... "There are also concerns about HTC and future software updates since it isn’t clear if HTC’s recent smartphones will ever see Android 4.2 or any other future versions of the operating system." Now this left me scratching my head, and asking myself why? Can this be true? Did I just buy a brand new dud phone? Is HTC really doing that bad?
Now, I love my new phone, but reading that leaves me with some concern. If anyone can shine some light on this topic please do so. I'm just hoping the editor was just talking out of his ass, because HTC is in a light struggle right now, and wanted to beef up his review. Well, I still have a little over a week to return the phone if I need to. I guess I better start digging for answers before its too late?
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To worry about HTC's status as a going-concern is pretty much like wondering if you will buy a new and more awesome phone after 2-year contract. I think HTC will be around. Look at RIM, even in such situation, they are still fighting for a comeback. HTC is not RIM yet.
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To worry about HTC's status as a going-concern is pretty much like wondering if you will buy a new and more awesome phone after 2-year contract. I think HTC will be around. Look at RIM, even in such situation, they are still fighting for a comeback. HTC is not RIM yet.
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Nor do I think HTC will become a RIM anytime soon. I just hate the fact that HTC pretty much puts out a phone, and say... Ok, we're done with this one, on to the next. Support lacks once the phone is released.
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Nor do I think HTC will become a RIM anytime soon. I just hate the fact that HTC pretty much puts out a phone, and say... Ok, we're done with this one, on to the next. Support lacks once the phone is released.
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The only company not doing this has been Google.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVpXTqMT3Ho&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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I always though butterfly is exclusive for japan.
Strangely the ad is in Chinese which means otherwise.
Or could it be cause its missing the J... hmmm
I guess this is the international version. :fingers-crossed:
Back to topic: I prefer the theme used in butterfly ad. Much more smoothing, lovely and calm. :good:
I love this device very much because it has a micro-sd slot which Droid DNA hasn't.
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Verizon would have added robotic arms and laser beams.
Just sayin.
Wow... They made it look like a lot more elegant device. I see where Verizon is going with their "Droid" themed commercials, but I believe they would sell a lot more phones if they did commercials like this. It actually shows all of the great features of the phone. The Droid commercials are just too techie for most everyday people.
Like the galaxy s3
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Wow... They made it look like a lot more elegant device. I see where Verizon is going with their "Droid" themed commercials, but I believe they would sell a lot more phones if they did commercials like this. It actually shows all of the great features of the phone. The Droid commercials are just too techie for most everyday people.
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Agreed. Most consumers don't care (or even know about) the fancy technical specifications of phones.. for the most part, consumers are pretty simple. There have been countless occasions when I've been explaining all the cool things my phone can do, and people are just staring at me blankly without understanding a thing I'm saying. If it looks nice and it seems to be "cool", then people will buy it. Hopefully someone at Verizon will notice this commercial and/or someone at HTC will make the decision to use a similar commercial in the U.S.. iPhones are only successful, sales-wise, because of their marketing - people see them as being simple and elegant, and thus choose to buy them. Specification-wise, the DNA wipes the floor with the iPhone, but they really need to pick it up on the marketing side..
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Wow... They made it look like a lot more elegant device. I see where Verizon is going with their "Droid" themed commercials, but I believe they would sell a lot more phones if they did commercials like this. It actually shows all of the great features of the phone. The Droid commercials are just too techie for most everyday people.
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Completely agree. That was an awesome commercial. The Droid commercials... meh - not so much.
to bad all Verizon phones look the same because of the big Verizon symbol on the front of the phones. So what's the point in making a DNA comicial if most ppl will think it's a Droid Razor?
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to bad all Verizon phones look the same because of the big Verizon symbol on the front of the phones. So what's the point in making a DNA comicial if most ppl will think it's a Droid Razor?
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So do all cars sold by the same dealer look the same to you because the dealer logo is on it?
Does my Note II look like a Moto Razr with the Verizon logos on it?
Does the DNA resemble my Note II?
Smh...
If you want to sell phones, and I repeat PHONES, you have to make them appealing to the public, they should definitely copy-paste this commercial on verizon using a different guy (Westerner for pr reasons) and the exact same girl.
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Agreed. Most consumers don't care (or even know about) the fancy technical specifications of phones.. for the most part, consumers are pretty simple. There have been countless occasions when I've been explaining all the cool things my phone can do, and people are just staring at me blankly without understanding a thing I'm saying. If it looks nice and it seems to be "cool", then people will buy it. Hopefully someone at Verizon will notice this commercial and/or someone at HTC will make the decision to use a similar commercial in the U.S.. iPhones are only successful, sales-wise, because of their marketing - people see them as being simple and elegant, and thus choose to buy them. Specification-wise, the DNA wipes the floor with the iPhone, but they really need to pick it up on the marketing side..
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That's exactly what I'm saying! Apple is the best marketing machine in the world and that is why they sell so many iPhones. If HTC and Verizon played more commercials like this for the DNA, I have absolutely no doubt that they would sell more of them. You have to appeal to the public and the Droid commercials just don't whatsoever.
Just looked for this device on Verizons website and it said "Available Online Only" meaning two things to me. One, they are selling through their stock. Two, something is coming around the corner, soon. Any speculation? I don't see a One in our future. Maybe another DNA variant?
There have been rumors of a "DNA 2," that's about all anyone knows.
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Well I see myself with the DNA for a long while I love it!
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With the moonshine S-OFF coming out, I see the DNA having a pretty long life in the "hardcore" smartphone user scene. It is a top of the line device, with fantastic hardware, and will be competitive for a while still, even with the ONE and speculated "DNA 2" coming out. At least, that is my guess.
EoL of the DNA at this point in time would be a bit weird.... it was release 11/2012 so idk how that would work out. There is already talks about the butterfly 2 and its said to be coming out in third qtr. As soon as that hits the market, we should see our next htc phone on verizon a month after or so.
Verizon may stop selling the device or whatever they choose. But after all the time I've referenced xda and came here I can pretty much guarantee that it is far from the eol on this and many other communities. And I highly doubt HTC will just drop it, I'm sure they saw what happened with Samsung and the s1s when they took forever to update anything.
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It would be a shame if Verizon does this but I would think they would start those corney commercials showing the phone as 99.00 down with 2year agreement or something like that - today is my last day to return I think, so I have a lot to consider
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With the moonshine S-OFF coming out, I see the DNA having a pretty long life in the "hardcore" smartphone user scene. It is a top of the line device, with fantastic hardware, and will be competitive for a while still, even with the ONE and speculated "DNA 2" coming out. At least, that is my guess.
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I absolutely love the device. I was with Sprint for nine years and finally broke down and switched. We, up until about 3-5 years ago didn't even have a Verizon presence in our state. They still even now only have about 10% of the market here so the LTE here is outstanding. Normally running 15-30 down and the same up. Enough of the history of Verizon in our state. I just picked this phone up several weeks ago when it had that Free coupon on the net. As I said I love the hardware and the software is meh, I would rather be running sense 5 on it, but for now, it is what it is, and with a custom launcher and a few miner tweaks it good for now. I had the very first Evo on Sprint and loved it for the short time I had it. After joining the rooting community though I purchased a Nexus S, followed by a Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 7, Nexus 10, and a GS3 that was given to me. So I am very familiar with rooting devices and running custom everything on them. With my life story here now, my main concern is if they do end of life this phone there will not be any more devices going out so Verizon, HTC, and just the dev community will move on. Its a shame. This is a great phone. I have used the One extensively and there is little difference in the phones in the way that they run and I found it strange that everyone, or many people, in the community were pushing to see the One on Verizon. This is the One in many ways, and in several ways better. I think at this point Verizon is looking to ditch this device because of all the whoopla the One is causing and its sad. I don't plan on ditching this phone anytime in the near future either. Its just sad that this phone is so understated. Is it better than the One, no but awfully close. Is it better than the S4, in my personal opinion after spending a week with it, yes. Its definitely better than a good crop of the phones out now even with its age. I think until we hear of a new device to take its place Verizon would be smart to dump a smidge more money and re-advertise for this device dropping the price point to $150-99 on contract and breathe some life back into this device. When I went to switch over to Verizon, and I knew what I was there to get, the sales person mentioned at least three other devices that were no where near the quality of this device. So not only at the corporate level but the floor level this phone needs some love. I'm thinking its to late at this point but i am still glad I picked it up. I'm still happy with it as it is, although I am excited to get it rooted at some point, as this phone has huge potential. I'm not wanting to be the "glass is half empty" guy its just not looking promising at this point for our beloved DNA :'(
The HTC Thunderbolt got a full Android upgrade (2.3 to 4.0) over a year after Verizon stopped selling it, and the Droid Incredible got a maintainance update a few months back I believe. So even when Verizon stops selling it, it won't stop getting support for a while.
Look at what the rezound has pulled off, and in my opinion it was a great device, but nowhere near as nice as the DNA. EOL is as much a frame of mind as anything else in the development community and userbase. I still help out with rezound development and have some close friends and dev partners active so we spend a lot of sleepless nights working on software for users and tools for developers so they're able to offer more. I moved up to the DNA because I wanted too, but didn't leave the rezound behind. There's a lot of guys like me who tend to do that to help drive the spirit of android, and there's also guys who unlike me are true developers making things happen. The DNA is a really nice device and if the development and custom software minded community wants a device to thrive, it will thrive.
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The first sign they wanted to phase out the DNA was the Free-with-2year promotion.
With the HTC One still completely unannounced on verizon (and all reps denying it vehemently), I'd have to guess that either HTC doesn't like how vzw handled their marketing or verizon made a yet-unannounced sweetheart deal with someone else. My money'd be on Samsung since verizon is really pimping their products.
tamlin42 said:
The first sign they wanted to phase out the DNA was the Free-with-2year promotion.
With the HTC One still completely unannounced on verizon (and all reps denying it vehemently), I'd have to guess that either HTC doesn't like how vzw handled their marketing or verizon made a yet-unannounced sweetheart deal with someone else. My money'd be on Samsung since verizon is really pimping their products.
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Verizon Wireless: the exclusive carrier of the Galaxy Note 3.
tamlin42 said:
The first sign they wanted to phase out the DNA was the Free-with-2year promotion.
With the HTC One still completely unannounced on verizon (and all reps denying it vehemently), I'd have to guess that either HTC doesn't like how vzw handled their marketing or verizon made a yet-unannounced sweetheart deal with someone else. My money'd be on Samsung since verizon is really pimping their products.
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https://twitter.com/VZWnews/statuses/341592724161560578
afazel said:
https://twitter.com/VZWnews/statuses/341592724161560578
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Wow. I wonder if that means LATER this summer like August or sooner....?
I see a lot of DNA's coming up for sale soon.. Mine included !! Depends on the retail cost though..
Definitely got to voice my opinion on this. Had the rezound for a year and a half. For how much I used it, I needed an extended battery but overall. Great device and first really high resolution phone. I just got my DNA and love it. The rezound was lagging since the last update.
I think Verizon dropped the ball on the one. They are putting it out almost 5-6 months after its initial release. That's atrocious. As phone connoisseurs we all know something new will be out soon after that anyway.
I'm sticking with my DNA. I don't see the development dying down after moonshine is released. The one has some small upgrades (most are portable thanks to the people here). And screen size downgrade.
I'll wait for the next nice HTC device to upgrade.
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Releasing so late after the other carriers is kind of a stupid move, but honestly if you have vzw and want the one, you're stuck waiting anyways. Or get the gs7 or whatever that Sammy brings out a month after that.
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pio_masaki said:
Releasing so late after the other carriers is kind of a stupid move, but honestly if you have vzw and want the one, you're stuck waiting anyways. Or get the gs7 or whatever that Sammy brings out a month after that.
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I don't see how its stupid. When the iPhone 4 released on Verizon, they had the fixed bezel around it vs atts 4
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th3_g00b said:
I don't see how its stupid. When the iPhone 4 released on Verizon, they had the fixed bezel around it vs atts 4
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I only say its stupid, which is probably not the right word, but its because they're placing a phone out months after its alternate carrier releases, meaning it'll be an older device releasing against newer devices, seems to counter what is normally done, release newer devices against newer devices. I thought I made that point clear, but maybe not, the joke with the gs7 or whatever must not have been clear enough.
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