ok so i just picked up a photon beacuse the evo 3d just a gimmick to me sgs2 i had the epic went through six in 4 months traded it for the evo wich was nice but i wanted to give the photon a look now my question is unlocking the bootloader worth it the phones quick enough as it is stock but i wanna have fun with it and whats some of ur guys overclock settings and how are they running
I have had the photon for almost 2 months now and I just rooted and unlocked the bootloader about 2 days ago. I'm running skinny rev1 rom and its awesome. Coming from a evo shift unlocking the bootloader is a lot harder on the photon but its totally worth it. And with all the video tutorials that qbking77 has it makes it very simple.
Welcome to the Photon forums. It is indeed a speedy phone with stock, but there are several roms and kernels out now that make it even faster. Also, we like to use punctuation here.
Be sure to run software updates. There were a few bugs that have been worked out by Moto.
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Hi guys,
A buddy is offering me his atrix 4G unlocked from Korea with Carrier (Anycall) branding. I just wanna know if everything available on the forums can be used on this version? Unlocking the bootloader and getting root should not be a problem but it's the custom roms and themes that I am worried about. I don't wanna end up buying something running only stock lol!
Why are all roms on the atrix only P-Roms?
How would you guys rate the roms for the atrix compared to other phones? Are they full featured? bug free? Stable?
THANKS
because the bootloader isn't unlocked?
check out the dev forums they just got 2nd init working but no roms have been created for it.
The P-roms are fine and stable since they are just P-roms.
I would check out sevens vguide to flashing deodexing and theming. If your firmware is supported there follow the instructions and you'll be gingerblured in no time
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and chillin, canadian Motorola Atrix
I might be able to get the At&t version so there should be no limitations to what I can install right?
How is your overall experience with the atrix? Im using a Nexus S right now and it is really really fast.
nexus s? nice. right now you might some things faster with the NS since you are on gingerbread and possibly using a custom rom? with that said the atrix is pretty damn fast as well. contemplated the S but wasn't enough of a spec upgrade over the N1. would love to hear your comparisons between the two.
I am a flash-0-holic and am used to having many options as a G1 owener. The Atrix is a much nicer phone but I am wondering if there will be a lot of custom roms developed for it. After reading many psts it almost seems like many users are happy with the stock moto rom with hotspot/tethering and root added. I am currently looking to buy a new phone but not without custom roms. I currently like the evo 3d, atrix 4g, moto photon but still waiting on custom rom devel and unlocked boot loader. Can anybody tell me how things are for Atrix users keeping in mind what I am used to with a G1
reading the dev forum for even 5 minutes will answer most of your questions
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I am a flash-0-holic and am used to having many options as a G1 owener. The Atrix is a much nicer phone but I am wondering if there will be a lot of custom roms developed for it. After reading many psts it almost seems like many users are happy with the stock moto rom with hotspot/tethering and root added. I am currently looking to buy a new phone but not without custom roms. I currently like the evo 3d, atrix 4g, moto photon but still waiting on custom rom devel and unlocked boot loader. Can anybody tell me how things are for Atrix users keeping in mind what I am used to with a G1
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The development has just begun. Unlocked BL was about a week ago. We're working on an international unlocked BL atm, but there is a guaranteed stable 2-int international being developed as we speak and that may yield international fruitfulness.
There are 6-8 quality developers who could have a full conversation in code who work on the atrix, and a lot of normal computer geeks who help out here and there (and make simple mods such as bootscreens and such).
It's definitely a great phone, I'm so glad I got it, and the dev community is great. I would recommend it.
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I am a flash-0-holic and am used to having many options as a G1 owener. The Atrix is a much nicer phone but I am wondering if there will be a lot of custom roms developed for it. After reading many psts it almost seems like many users are happy with the stock moto rom with hotspot/tethering and root added. I am currently looking to buy a new phone but not without custom roms. I currently like the evo 3d, atrix 4g, moto photon but still waiting on custom rom devel and unlocked boot loader. Can anybody tell me how things are for Atrix users keeping in mind what I am used to with a G1
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Yeah, I was wondering about this too. I'm in canada and thinking of getting a Bell atrix. Is the unlocked bootloader worth getting an ATT one? Does anyone know if Bell is going to unlock their atrices, I hear theres a gingerbread update due in august. If I use a custom ROM like CM7, will I lose webtop, or will i be able to install it again?
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Yeah, I was wondering about this too. I'm in canada and thinking of getting a Bell atrix. Is the unlocked bootloader worth getting an ATT one? Does anyone know if Bell is going to unlock their atrices, I hear theres a gingerbread update due in august. If I use a custom ROM like CM7, will I lose webtop, or will i be able to install it again?
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knowing that the ATT one is already unlocked why wouldnt u get one over the Bell if u had a choice...IJS
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knowing that the ATT one is already unlocked why wouldnt u get one over the Bell if u had a choice...IJS
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The bell ones are cheaper, don't have the ATT branding, and I would guess the radio software is different, but I"m not sure
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So I have been searching for a thread already started but can not seem to find my answer....................
Coming from EVO4G with CM7.1 I had my WIMAX up and running(where there is WIMAX)..
Now I have pick up the Photon4G. All I am reading, unlocking the phone is bricking 4G if you install this ROM or unlock the bootloader.
MY QUESTION:
Why? like I said uptop WIMAX works fine with my EVO being root/unlocked.... what am I missing/do not get with having a unlock(everything) phone? why is unlocking the phone bricks the 4G/Wimax in this phone.... Does it not work b/c it is unlock/root? or b/c the ROM does not have the coding for the radio?????
Sorry guess it more then just one question
Yay4Juggs has been working on this issue in his spare time. There is no promise that we will ever be unlocked with 4g. We need more devs for this device but sadly at the rate that phones have been released lately its hard to develop simultaneously for so many devices. Photon is a wonderful phone that is slowly falling through the cracks. Anyways consult the bounty thread for unlocked with 4g. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1286433
hi guys i got a replacement phone for my broken evo 4g and I'm getting the evo 3d tomorrow. i usually dislike when people do this but now i understand sometimes its nice to be given direction when u really don't know the development somewhere. what are the recommended or most used roms for the 3D. maybe a few sense and a few aosp rom names. i am very curious as to what the top dogs of the evo 3D are!
Sense roms:
Viper's redline (best imo)
Myn's warm 2.3
Virus' eternity
Aosp:
MIUI
Ics from joelz or decks
Kernel:
Chad's
Tiamat
Ziggy
Hope this helps
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hi guys i got a replacement phone for my broken evo 4g and I'm getting the evo 3d tomorrow. i usually dislike when people do this but now i understand sometimes its nice to be given direction when u really don't know the development somewhere. what are the recommended or most used roms for the 3D. maybe a few sense and a few aosp rom names. i am very curious as to what the top dogs of the evo 3D are!
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In addition to the list provided above, some rough methods of being able to gauge popularity/quality are by looking at view/post count on a thread.
Also, skim read through some of the posts in the thread looking for either issues or praise and the quality of the content.
Without being able to read source code, developers who post links to their source should generally be more reliable. Links will usually go to a git/svn/google code/github site for source.
If you're really curious, open up a developers user information section and look at their last 10 posts, and/or last 10 threads they started and that will start to paint a picture of how they spend their time participating in the forum.
I probably take more caution than most before I load software somebody has modified on my device. The above are all great general tips to help anybody who is "new" to a device start to familiarize themselves with the current development scene.
I was very happy to move from the EVO 4G to the EVO 3D. Good luck!
I'm in the same boat, my 3d should be waiting for me when I get home. I've been reading a lot about rooting it this morning, seems a little more involved than the 4g but doable. Then to pick a rom....so many choices, lol
We're comin from a pure power source.
I was just like you guys a few weeks ago, coming from a Evo 4G to a Evo 3D. Hope that you get a 3D without HBOOT 1.5, it's a bit harder to install ROMS and kernels on than you're used to, and you have to void you're warranty and unlock with HTC. Rooting with any other HBOOT is like rooting the Evo 4G, though.
Other than that, there's a lot of similarities between rooting the devices, but I love the Evo 3d a million times more and don't even miss the kickstand.
my $.02 and most is based on you being a seasoned flasher with the 4G.
Pros:
-Much faster and smoother ride overall
-Native 3.0 so you will finally see AND ENJOY all the bells and whistles
-A lot of the really solid 4G devs are either here now exclusive or also doing 3D so you will see some familiar faces
-Really can't go wrong with any rom you chose as they are all very solid in their own rights less the posted quirks that are just to be expected
Cons: (depending on stance)
-Still an EVO so it's not like you get the full "hey I got a new phone!" feeling
-Dev is still in it's infancy stage so not as up to speed as 4G
-HBOOT 1.5 isn't the toughest thing to bypass but does add a few steps to flashing so if you were a flash-a-holic as I was you will definitely slowwww down
-ICS is starting to come along but definitely slower than most phones
Overall you will enjoy the move. 3D you will get over probably about 5 minutes after you turn it on but it's still an Evo so the phone is a beast. The community itself is a little slow but the people here especially the devs are tops in helping out.
Currently I am running OLYPUS ODEX HD V2 and love it. I went from Vipers Redline which I personally experienced a little more solid running but not enough for me to lose the extra features OLYMPUS has.
Well I got lucky I think. The 3d I got has hboot 1.4!
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Very Nice! i would stick with a sense 3.0 rom
ive been useing fresh just for the simple fact of stability not much tweaks done
unlike the evo 4g there isnt much of any feature complete aosp roms unless you like miui style
wow thanks a lot to all of you for the replies. i honestly didn't expect much. i feel very welcome here as a new 3D user. i just opened it and i love it! can't wait to root it and try these out. thanks again to all you i really appreciate it.
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Well I got lucky I think. The 3d I got has hboot 1.4!
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YESS!! mine has 1.4 as well! super stoked. bout to root this puppy. this phone is faster by a lot.
Yea this phone is uber nice, rooted with revolutionary no prob, sweeter
We're comin from a pure power source.
I cant see what there is to gain by unlocking and installing a rom that only works on an unlocked phone. Why should I give up 4g? Wish I knew how to make my own rom.
Questions should be in Q&A or general, but to answer your question, not everyone lives in a wimax area so what is the point of 4g when there is no signal to use?
^ this. I'll probably need someone to change my diapers for me by the time sprint has 4g in my area. Oops tmi?
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a good sprint locked rom would prolly be a good idea actually since a lot of new users prolly gunna end up with this 2.3.5 bootloader and even later as sprint moves to ics
Whats wrong with mine? Im the only one actually works on them and it seems people dont appreciate them thats why I dont put more time to them
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I live in a 4g area and sprints 4g isn't good anyway so long live the unlocked roms! I mean if you stand in the middle of the street and don't move then it's awesome.
I like yours rocko...have tried them all but the most stable is 2.4..on it now. Tried the 3.5 but it does not have 4g for sprint.
Keep up the good work
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I like yours rocko...have tried them all but the most stable is 2.4..on it now. Tried the 3.5 but it does not have 4g for sprint.
Keep up the good work
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Ill work on that sprint leaked one have a couple testers probably 2night
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I cant see what there is to gain by unlocking and installing a rom that only works on an unlocked phone. Why should I give up 4g? Wish I knew how to make my own rom.
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Since I also live in a 4g area I'm not willing to give up my 4g by staying perm unlocked. Ive been reading and learning and am testing a locked rom just adding the tweaks hope to be ready in a few days.
I dont live in a 4g area, but most of my daylight time is in a 4g area and I use it. Lets face it! We have to pay for it. It should work. There is no way to compromise for me to give up 4g for some of the custom roms out there. I had an Evo before my Photon and I will say that when the time comes I will ditch this Photon and get a Samsung or HTC phone. Shame on Motorola for locking down their phones. Even the company I work for has given up on motorola and went to other radio manufacturers. It just seem there are more people developing on HTC and Samsung for the very reason that they are "OPEN" and not locked down.
Just my 2 cents...
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Whats wrong with mine? Im the only one actually works on them and it seems people dont appreciate them thats why I dont put more time to them
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i can honestly say ive never flashed any of your roms. right now my ideal one would be the 2.3.5 with fixed hdmi.. with that id be happy :/
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I dont live in a 4g area, but most of my daylight time is in a 4g area and I use it. Lets face it! We have to pay for it. It should work. There is no way to compromise for me to give up 4g for some of the custom roms out there. I had an Evo before my Photon and I will say that when the time comes I will ditch this Photon and get a Samsung or HTC phone. Shame on Motorola for locking down their phones. Even the company I work for has given up on motorola and went to other radio manufacturers. It just seem there are more people developing on HTC and Samsung for the very reason that they are "OPEN" and not locked down.
Just my 2 cents...
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you need to look up what open is, as it stands htcs "unlock is getting more and more locked down
I understand what you mean about htc being more locked down...that is why htc was second in my choices of my next phone. But I know that whatever man can lock down can be unlocked. It just take the desire too do it. If I was more of a developer and more advanced in this particular field I could spend more time working on it. But I am still learning and trying to figure it all out.
But thanks for your observations, and you developmental skills. We all appreciate it.
Back to the subject... what advantages do an unlocked bootloader with no 4G have over a locked bootloader with 4G.. rocko's rom is pretty nice and extremely smooth and he achieved that with a locked bootloader. Why flash a gingerbread rom that's made for an unlocked bootloader... I can kinda understand the purpose for an ICS rom because of its custom drivers
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Back to the subject... what advantages do an unlocked bootloader with no 4G have over a locked bootloader with 4G.. rocko's rom is pretty nice and extremely smooth and he achieved that with a locked bootloader. Why flash a gingerbread rom that's made for an unlocked bootloader... I can kinda understand the purpose for an ICS rom because of its custom drivers
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In the defense of unlocking, I don't remember when was the last time I wasn't on a ICS base rom. I have full 4g in my area and everywhere I have to go to work. but I like customizability and choices. sprint 3g is fast as **** here so I don't miss 4g at all. I don't think I've even run a kernel that can't be overclocked to 1.4 in a while also... so, I stay unlocked. Also, Rocko's roms are sweet.. locked or unlocked thanks for all the hard work...
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I dont live in a 4g area, but most of my daylight time is in a 4g area and I use it. Lets face it! We have to pay for it. It should work. There is no way to compromise for me to give up 4g for some of the custom roms out there. I had an Evo before my Photon and I will say that when the time comes I will ditch this Photon and get a Samsung or HTC phone. Shame on Motorola for locking down their phones. Even the company I work for has given up on motorola and went to other radio manufacturers. It just seem there are more people developing on HTC and Samsung for the very reason that they are "OPEN" and not locked down.
Just my 2 cents...
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I plan to ditch my Photon in a couple of weeks for an HTC One but I fully expect it to be locked down after HTC locked down the One for ATT. Im not real sure how I feel about that but the bottom line is I hate this phone. Its laggy, the screen sucks for gaming.. its a great PHONE but its a lousy smart device.
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I plan to ditch my Photon in a couple of weeks for an HTC One but I fully expect it to be locked down after HTC locked down the One for ATT. Im not real sure how I feel about that but the bottom line is I hate this phone. Its laggy, the screen sucks for gaming.. its a great PHONE but its a lousy smart device.
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I'll give ya $100 for it right now.
CCallahan said:
I'll give ya $100 for it right now.
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I have an Otterbox Defender that needs to go with it. If you want to adjust the price a little, we can make it happen. You can check my feedback on Ebay if you want and Ill give you my contact info.. Im a straight shooter. Id even be willing to go back to my OG Epic 4G just to get rid of this thing.
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Whats wrong with mine? Im the only one actually works on them and it seems people dont appreciate them thats why I dont put more time to them
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Rocko,
Your Blur build is what i use when i need to go back to blur Great build! Id run it as my daily, but im a CM addict.
To the OP,
its all in the name of "bc they can." 4G(WIMAX) for me is over rated, 3G downloads emails and all that jazz plenty fast enough. id rather have the latest software then 4G, and ive been glued to CM since my EVO.
MadFlava,
screen sucks for gaming... Solitaire works great on my photon ha ha obviously im not a big gamer. I dont plan to make a move to a different phone unless the devs move. Ill follow them
[rant mode enabled]
(if this affects my chances of ever getting dev status I'm not sure if I care as I've been waiting for almost a year)
Almost every day there's a "I can't find it" thread or post for a file that I personally hosted. Where can these files be found? In a STICKIED thread that I try to maintain and keep up to date. This leads me to believe that the money spent hosting and the work involved in the stickied thread is ignored and unappreciated by many.
People are still flashing 2.3.5electrify pudding on photons after it has been said many times "don't do it". Again this goes back to the previous paragraph. I'm now to the point that if you bork your phone considering that the information is obviously available, you deserve it.
Nobody is developing for locked? Since when? There's three locked ROM's/mods that I know of right now without looking. Rocko Locked to start, which I have said is a bloody good ROM for those that want eyecandy. Imperium Locked is for those that want a barebones ROM that was updated less than a week ago. Here's a surprise for folks. The Deblur/Debloat Script is an ODEXED version of Imperium Locked without the theme change! How many Locked ROMs do you want, or is it that reading and searching are to much of a bother.
Other annoying things are "I don't like the way it looks" complaints and the general lack of "thanks" or support. If you don't like the way a ROM looks then flash a theme. That's what they are there for. If you can't be bothered to flash a theme (and don't say there are none) then don't flash anything. Developing takes effort, time and money. If you are not developing, hitting the "thanks" button or donating then you are leeching, plain and simple.
Also. Why is this thread in the development section? I don't see any development work posted.
[end of rant]
Photon Locked vs unlocked;
Locked ROMs give you the benefit of being very close to the stock base in many cases. Things like PRL and profile updates work and in some cases you can choose to accept an OTA update with little to no issues. You also loose fewer stock features with locked like 4G. The drawback is that battery life is shorter, it runs slower and fine tuning is almost impossible.
Unlocked ROM's give you more choice and greater flexibility with things like full themes, kernels and overclocking/undervolting. It then becomes a choice of need vs want. My daily is my own ROM that is underclocked to 750MhZ single core and NOT undervolted. With the tuning of profiles, my battery fall off is 1% every three hours, video playback is around six hours and during a call my phone never breaks 456MhZ. In short, battery life is insane with a standby mode of 10 days before I get a low battery prompt. This cannot be done with locked. The only thing I loose is 4G but considering the impact 4G has on battery life I can actually transfer more data than if I did have 4G just at a slower rate.
If LTE proves to be more battery friendly then I may change my position but for now I personally choose flexibility and the ability to fine tune over 4G any day.
The DeBlur tool is awesome. I just had to flash back because Im going to participate in the SOAK if I get chosen. Everyone should run the DeBlur tool.