Evo vs Evo 3D - signal wise.. - HTC EVO 3D

Why is the Evo 3D so ****ty getting any reception?
In my house, all of my OG Evos used to get easily 1-2 bars, and 3g even worked in the basement.
When I switched over to the Evo 3D in June and since then I've been having problems getting service, dropping calls or what have you. 3G doesn't work at all...
Work in basement? Fuggetaboutit...
I'm forced to use Airave/Roam Control.
Does anyone else know a solution to getting better signal, like my old Evo 4G?
(and it's not just my phone, I've gone thru 6 phones.)

U can always use the .000001 prl. I find signal to be stronger with the evo3d than any other.phone but this is after the radio updates awhile back. Bars dont mean signal and just because it says 3g doesnt mean u have 3g. The old evo was bad about always saying 3g.
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Are you on the latest firmware/radios?

cajones42 said:
U can always use the .000001 prl. I find signal to be stronger with the evo3d than any other.phone but this is after the radio updates awhile back. Bars dont mean signal and just because it says 3g doesnt mean u have 3g. The old evo was bad about always saying 3g.
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I know all that. And an app called "Roam Control" works just like the PRL trick.
KB112 said:
Are you on the latest firmware/radios?
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I'm on latest MIUI.
Not sure what Radio I'm on or how I even check it.

The go eve would always say 3g even when it wasn't on it. Miui Shows you what you are really on. Also you need to compare the real signal strength, not just how many bars.

Roam control will only give u limited roam speeds, likr 200kb max or so. .000001 prl is full 3g and can roam speeds up to 2mb
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Roam control will only give u limited roam speeds, likr 200kb max or so. .000001 prl is full 3g and can roam speeds up to 2mb
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It also can get you kicked from sprints network.

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Display 1x ??

Does the EVO 3d and sense 3.0 have the same issue as the evo 4g where it doesn't display 1x and it always displays 3g?
Sometimes I notice that I have 5 bars of signal and it displays 3g but my speeds are like 1x speed.
DarkManX4lf said:
Does the EVO 3d and sense 3.0 have the same issue as the evo 4g where it doesn't display 1x and it always displays 3g?
Sometimes I notice that I have 5 bars of signal and it displays 3g but my speeds are like 1x speed.
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Yes. It shows only 3G icon. I think the problem is in AndroidPolicy.jar, but could be wrong. A custom ROM will fix this issue.
I was wondering why I've never seen 1x. Saw it for 2 years on my Pre in crappy signal areas.
Yeah I remember using a custom ROM on the EVO 4G like cyanogen but you would think HTC would fix this by now in their sense launcher.
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Yeah I remember using a custom ROM on the EVO 4G like cyanogen but you would think HTC would fix this by now in their sense launcher.
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Fix? Lol I think that is by design. Requested by Sprint. HTC devs were forced to comply. At least that is my thought on the topic.
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issafram said:
Fix? Lol I think that is by design. Requested by Sprint. HTC devs were forced to comply. At least that is my thought on the topic.
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Haha, that might be true, but wouldnt that be like...not sure how to put it into proper terms....lieing to our faces.....basically saying regardless where you go, you are always on 3g.
The only time that I've seen it say 1x or something other than 3g is when it was roaming.
If course its a blatent move by Sprint to trick us. The irony is that 3G in most areas isn't much faster than 1x at the moment.
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If course its a blatent move by Sprint to trick us. The irony is that 3G in most areas isn't much faster than 1x at the moment.
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You're holding it wrong. Seriously though, its why I love CM. Tells me whats up.... HTC is making us wait way too long for the unlocked bootloader.
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Yes, it does and will show 1x but i only see it when i send a txt message.
Use a signal widget to display your true mode at the given time.
There is a mod for the EVO that you can edit the phones file and make it display 1x when you do have 1x. Not sure if it will work with the 3vo but I know it works for other HTC phones besides the EVO, might be worth a try. I'll probably try it tomorrow and let you know. Heres the link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=974180

3G speeds

Hello. I've seen it mentioned, and wouldn't have believed it if I didn't experience it. FYI, this isn't a *****ing thread, I am just curios WHY 3G speeds on the 3VO are so much slower than what I had from the OG Evo. Is this something that will, or even CAN be addressed by a radio update?
Thanks for the input!
From my personal experience, in the same location I have gone from speeds of 300kbps to a meg a second, down to >100kbps with a top of 300kbps. I tried the "Increase 3G speed trick," and still in the same speed range.
UPDATE: I had Sprint reprovision my device, and was told to do a battery pull, turn on and let the system settle, and voila. Still pulling 300kpbs tho.
If anything, this can be fixed through a radio update. Just give it time. I know it is unfortunate. Have you bothered with the MSL tweak that is in the development section?
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DDiaz007 said:
If anything, this can be fixed through a radio update. Just give it time. I know it is unfortunate. Have you bothered with the MSL tweak that is in the development section?
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Yes, didn't see any difference unfortunately. I just hope it is software limitations and not hardware... I cant imagine the Evo and 3Vo have that much of a different set up?
monkeybone12 said:
Yes, didn't see any difference unfortunately. I just hope it is software limitations and not hardware... I cant imagine the Evo and 3Vo have that much of a different set up?
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I'm going to say it has to be radio related. Time will tell I suppose. I am sorry that I was not much help.
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My 3g is faster with 3vo than my ogEvo
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EvoSideHustlAZ said:
My 3g is faster with 3vo than my ogEvo
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Well snap, that is a first from what I have read. What type of speeds do you get on the 3vo now? Done the MSL 0's trick?
LOL'ed at your sig BTW.
EvoSideHustlAZ said:
My 3g is faster with 3vo than my ogEvo
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My 3G speeds are a little bit faster, but they still suck. Where I live, my speeds are abysmal. This applies with any Sprint phone. I remember when my speeds rocked, but that was at the beginning of the release of the Evo 4G. It just degraded throughout time.
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DDiaz007 said:
My 3G speeds are a little bit faster, but they still suck. Where I live, my speeds are abysmal. This applies with any Sprint phone. I remember when my speeds rocked, but that was at the beginning of the release of the Evo 4G. It just degraded throughout time.
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Yeah, I live in the sticks, so I feel ya... lol
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Yeah, I live in the sticks, so I feel ya... lol
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It truly does suck. Well when I'm not near my WiFi.
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I thought it was just my 3D at first, but now I see that every sprint phone my family has have been extremely slow. My sister called me yesterday asking how to turn on the 3g on her Samsung, but sadly it was already on. Sprint can't keep up with all the new subscribers.
3G on Sprint compared to Verizon sucks. I called sprint and told them about it. I suggest that others do the same. I'd didn't ***** at them I just told them I have a Xoom and a EVO3D and the Xoom 3G absolutely blows away Sprint. I told them its embarrassment. Unlimited data? Ya at 56k they can give you all the unlimited data they want.
Mine have increased from OG EVO to this without the msl trick. Weird.
Edit: update on speeds. Tested three times, all above 1.40 mbps. Never got that on og evo.
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Funny thing, I just saw sprint's new commercial about unlimited data. They rank on verizon and att for their tiered data, then they rank on tmobile for thier throttling data after 5gb, and they finally they say how fast their data is! I laughed my ass off. I bet tmobile's throttled data is faster that my 3G data with full bars. I'm not in a 4G area so I can't comment on that, I'm sure it's fast but sprint's 3G data in my area is super slow during peak hours. I average 100kbs peak, about 700kbs to 1mb super early in the morning or super late in the evening. Basically without a wifi connection its unusable during peak hours.
no difference between the evo and 3d for me same old 56k **** speeds.
billyapd21 said:
Funny thing, I just saw sprint's new commercial about unlimited data. They rank on verizon and att for their tiered data, then they rank on tmobile for thier throttling data after 5gb, and they finally they say how fast their data is! I laughed my ass off. I bet tmobile's throttled data is faster that my 3G data with full bars. I'm not in a 4G area so I can't comment on that, I'm sure it's fast but sprint's 3G data in my area is super slow during peak hours. I average 100kbs peak, about 700kbs to 1mb super early in the morning or super late in the evening. Basically without a wifi connection its unusable during peak hours.
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Thats what I told the lady from sprint was that if you don't have a WiFi connection then data was pretty much useless. What got me was I have all my music on the Google cloud. So I sync my Xooms bluetooth with my car. On the way to work it played perfect never skipped and I could change tracks without issue. So I thought well let me try it with my EVO. Well what a disaster it wouldn't play a single track let alone change tracks. Completely worthless without WiFi.
Odd that some see no difference, and some better and some worse... I put the OG Evo back on to make sure, and I'm getting approximately 3 times the network speed.
Does anyone know why this could be? I see fewer bars... But I didn't think to play with open signal maps. Might have to tinker with that when I get off.
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DDiaz007 said:
It truly does suck. Well when I'm not near my WiFi.
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I work outside, so no wifi for me.
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For the ones that have good data on OG EVO, but not on the 3D, a reprovision of the phone should help you out. If you have bad speeds on both devices then reprovisioning won't do anything as you're probably in a bad reception area.
Just left tmobile for sprint and I can definitely say my throttled data was faster than sprints 3G.
It's beyond annoying. I live in Orlando, and somehow I find myself constantly roaming in high tourism areas. Actually, I'm roaming the minute I go into my bedroom.
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Mine just picked up speed today! The sprint store tech did a speedtest and it was in the 100kb range. He reprovisioned the phone to reactivate on the network nd my speeds are now as good or better than original evo 500kb average. I dont think a radio update would do much good. Sprint needs to hop on the Rev B evdo or start rolling out those dual 3g/4g towers sooner than expected! They are dropping all these hot phones w/out expanding the network. Starting to sound like att.
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Prl update

Anybody else update there prl to 51081? I just noticed it was updated
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snoopy1e11 said:
Anybody else update there prl to 51081? I just noticed it was updated
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Yup...mine did the same. 51081
Speeds Averaging 550Kbps
Bandage said:
Yup...mine did the same. 51081
Speeds Averaging 550Kbps
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Yea im bout in that range i gotta test again
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I had better speeds before the prl update.
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mikel719 said:
I had better speeds before the prl update.
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same here...
My speeds are slow on the test but everyday use its just fine
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yup slower speeds and less bars with the new prl
Harry_Spade said:
yup slower speeds and less bars with the new prl
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I still get full bars, the data speeds just are lower for me now.
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Is there any way to reverse, fix this yet? My speeds are suffering greatly.
A prl update shouldn't affect your speeds at all... Unless it adds or removes a tower you were always roaming on before.
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codee said:
A prl update shouldn't affect your speeds at all... Unless it adds or removes a tower you were always roaming on before.
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ehhh
actually a prl can and will dramatically change data speeds...
stock vs a modified one such as 0001.prl changes my speeds by about 1.5 mbps
dtr145r said:
ehhh
actually a prl can and will dramatically change data speeds...
stock vs a modified one such as 0001.prl changes my speeds by about 1.5 mbps
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That's because that 0001 prl is a Verizon prl. Which is roaming off the Sprint network. As for the new Sprint prl for the Photon, I wouldn't be surprised if this new prl affected data speeds. I'be learned to expect creeping snail data speeds from Sprint.
Speeds reaching 1mb now
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Im on 53115 and its pretty good.
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Is that Verizon
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I've always maintained the latest PRL from Sprint. Worst case scenario I can always switch to 000001 but I see no need to. I get decent coverage in my area.
The new prl automatically updated on my photon last night and I can tell there's a difference in signal strength and data speeds. I was getting two bars on average inside my house with very slow data speeds. Now I'm pushing solid four to five bars and data speeds are noticeably faster. My house has a metal roof by the way and the Photon is the only phone that has been able to pull good signal inside my house. The radios in the Motorola Photon are second to none. This is real world testing.
I put money on the Photon in every signal strength and call quality test. Its a freakin' BEAST of a phone and EVERYBODY quickly tells me how good and clear they can hear me on this phone.
My 4G is also better after this prl update.
tx_dbs_tx said:
The new prl automatically updated on my photon last night and I can tell there's a difference in signal strength and data speeds. I was getting two bars on average inside my house with very slow data speeds. Now I'm pushing solid four to five bars and data speeds are noticeably faster. My house has a metal roof by the way and the Photon is the only phone that has been able to pull good signal inside my house. The radios in the Motorola Photon are second to none. This is real world testing.
I put money on the Photon in every signal strength and call quality test. Its a freakin' BEAST of a phone and EVERYBODY quickly tells me how good and clear they can hear me on this phone.
My 4G is also better after this prl update.
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Which update did you get?
edlex said:
Which update did you get?
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My updated prl is 51081
tx_dbs_tx said:
My updated prl is 51081
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Oh ok, thanks.

Roam Question

Is there any way to roam at 3g Speeds on a competitors airwaves? for instance, I have zero coverage at work....but my buddy has perfect verizon. I can roam with really ****ty reception. Is there anything I can do to "force roam" at 3g speeds?
hotspace said:
Is there any way to roam at 3g Speeds on a competitors airwaves? for instance, I have zero coverage at work....but my buddy has perfect verizon. I can roam with really ****ty reception. Is there anything I can do to "force roam" at 3g speeds?
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I wouldn't exactly know how to this but I just wanted to let you know be careful with roaming on verizons network. Obviously in sprints eyes that's grounds for dismissal without an eta. It's only so much roaming you can do before you get the boot so be careful.
My "DU4L C0R3 SH00T3R" shot you down in 3D! -Security Off-
Search for Roam Control in the market
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Your not roaming at true 3g btw. Roaming sticks it in 1xrtt. I tried changing my epst settings to HDR and CDMA HDR only, which it stills says 1xrtt 99.99% of the time
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Look up change prl in of EVO board ..... It will give u instructions to install a Verizon or any other prl and will let u roam on 3g ...
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southern87 said:
Your not roaming at true 3g btw. Roaming sticks it in 1xrtt. I tried changing my epst settings to HDR and CDMA HDR only, which it stills says 1xrtt 99.99% of the time
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Not always true. If you live in a former Alltel area, you can roam on Verizon 3G. I get about 700 kbps-1.2 mbps when roaming on Verizon where I live.
This is because Verizon is required to uphold the Sprint/Alltel roaming agreement terms until the agreement ends, and part of the agreement is EVDO roaming in Alltel coverage areas.
I also think that when roaming on US Cellular its EVDO but I'm not sure and I don't know from experience as Verizon (formerly Alltel) is Sprint primary roaming partner where I live.
Kingmac38 said:
Look up change prl in of EVO board ..... It will give u instructions to install a Verizon or any other prl and will let u roam on 3g ...
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That's what I did. Prl 00001. Though its not as fast as sprints 3g for me where I'm at. It does work though.
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Your using Verizon for voice too but if you do it too long they will kick you to the curb ..... After a couple months you may get a letter that they are dropping u as a customer .... Hint if you want to get out with no etf ...
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Went to Yellowstone this week and couldn't figure out why my rooted 3vo would say 1x while my lady's stock 3vo would say 3g. Seems like this cleared up some confusion. Tnx
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All it says are you are on a custom ROM that is modified to show 1x and all stock roms will just show 3g , but will still be on 1x . I hate the way they do it I like to know what system I am on .
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I use roam control and it barely makes a difference. It roams on US Cellular, I barely have any signal and the data is s-l-o-w.
Roam control does not do the same thing as what he is doing .... When using Verizon prl the network sees your phone as a alltell phone and allows you full access to their network ... Full speed roaming
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Notc connecting to LTE fixed

For some reason i could connect to LTE for about 30 seconds before my phone would revert to 3G. no matter how many times i updated prl or profile.
Solution: used Network from app store to switch from CDMA+LTE AUTO to LTE,CDMA. now getting lightning fast LTE all the time.
Nice.
I was having the same problem, could you explain what you did exactly? There is an app called network that allows you to change this?
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tomplatz said:
Solution: used Network from app store to switch from CDMA+LTE AUTO to LTE,CDMA. now getting lightning fast LTE all the time.
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Which "Network" app did you use? Play Store shows like 19,000 apps when I search on just "network"!
Thanks!
Dave
'Network' on AppBrain: http://www.appbrain.com/app/de.mangelow.network
I'll try this out, I've been dialing *#*#4636#*#* and selecting lte/cdma, this may make it easier to switch
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Just remember...the resets when you reboot and keeps your phone from connecting to ehrpd (i think)
Still running tests
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Working good for me as soon as i changed the settings.... Been on lte since then without getting on 3g.... This is good...
Thanks
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Just remember...the resets when you reboot and keeps your phone from connecting to ehrpd (i think)
Still running tests
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Whats ehrpd ?
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App works well, good shortcut..
I just have to set it back to cdma, lte+evdo/auto when I leave an lte area.. Then 3g/4g/1x hand offs appears to function normally..
Lte+cdma lets me maintain 4g down to 1 bar otherwise it drops down to 3g for no reason I can tell..
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Whats ehrpd ?
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Enhanced High Rate Packet Data (eHRPD). eHRPD is an enhancement of 1xEV-DO (AKA HRPD) that enables LTE to CDMA handover.
00mred00, do you know a way around this problem? I'm just not getting LTE if I don't change my network like this. Seems odd that we should have to do this at all. Is this a problem of the freshROM or a coverage problem or what?
Thanks for the intel.
It happens because sprint has flipped the switch early and less than half of lte towers are on and are still not fully powered up. The 3g signal is stronger (although slower) than the 4g.. Sprint has said that there lte isn't fully functional and that it's currently mostly for outdoor use
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It happens because sprint has flipped the switch early and less than half of lte towers are on and are still not fully powered up. The 3g signal is stronger (although slower) than the 4g.. Sprint has said that there lte isn't fully fictional and that it's currently mostly for outdoor use
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I will have to try this next week when I am in an area supposedly with LTE on but it's not accessible
Yes! This works! I was having the same issue and sprint stores and tech support could never help! This definitely is the fix. Makes me so angry that it is just a setting on the phone. The people at the Sprint stores were insisting that there was nothing wrong. Dirty liars.
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It happens because sprint has flipped the switch early and less than half of lte towers are on and are still not fully powered up. The 3g signal is stronger (although slower) than the 4g.. Sprint has said that there lte isn't fully functional and that it's currently mostly for outdoor use
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This is pretty much what I have found here in Dallas. I am not convinced we we need a permanent solution for this reason.
For example...the areas I have to do this in are not officially up and running yet. (keep in mind not all of the "orange" is officially up yet either)
I continue to test it. Right now I want to say Atlanta is the furthest in completion
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