I've been looking around the web for a while and can't find an answer.
Does the locked-bootloader on the RAZR make it impossible to install a custom ROM on the phone?
I really want to get this phone but only if there is a chance I'll be able to put a custom ROM on it.
neurostu said:
I've been looking around the web for a while and can't find an answer.
Does the locked-bootloader on the RAZR make it impossible to install a custom ROM on the phone?
I really want to get this phone but only if there is a chance I'll be able to put a custom ROM on it.
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Here is a quote from a user on Rootzwiki about the locked bootloader (user Soapinmouth posted this, not me)
I disagree i think the razr is going to be the hottest selling Droid since the og. You have to remember the people that even know what a bootloader is are an extremely small % of buyers, and then there's those that do and still buy it like me.
In all honesty the locked bl is way overblown, id say a good 75% of the community has no idea what the locked bl even prevents.
It
DOES NOT prevent custom roms
DOES NOT prevent overclocking
DOES NOT prevent rooting
It
Does prevent custom kernals
Well that's a relief, so a chance MIUI would be on this bad boy?
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Well that's a relief, so a chance MIUI would be on this bad boy?
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Miui and cm7 would need custom kernels, so no.
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bricky23 said:
Miui and cm7 would need custom kernels, so no.
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Although they did find a way to unlock the bootloader of the bionic so there is a chance they could find a way to unlock the RAZR too.....one can always hope!
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Miui and cm7 would need custom kernels, so no.
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The Droid x has both w/o custom kernels thru the magic of 2nd init.
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I cannot WAIT for overclock. Push this thing to 1.8GHz+ and I'll keep it the full two years. With proper memory management (custom user values and/or 4.0) this phone is as future proof as you're gonna find in the next 6-12 months. Who wants Samsung plastics and no Gorilla Glass?
Isn't overclocking going to be out of the question without a custom kernel?
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I cannot WAIT for overclock. Push this thing to 1.8GHz+ and I'll keep it the full two years. With proper memory management (custom user values and/or 4.0) this phone is as future proof as you're gonna find in the next 6-12 months. Who wants Samsung plastics and no Gorilla Glass?
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Lol why would you want to OC that high? Only benefit you'd get are higher bench scores and maybe a few more fps in some games. Also imagine the heat as this phone alreayd runs fairly hot. I doubt there is anything in Android that requires even more than a 1ghz DC. Pretty much all the performance issues we see now are due to poor coding. Also the software doesn't atm doesn't have proper hardware acceleration I believe? iPhone 5 with a 800mhz DC, hell even a single core has a smoother UI than most Android phones. Not an apple fan or anything, just stating what I have seen and facts. Good example is the HTC Rezound is 300 mhz "faster" than the RAZR and the RAZR performs quite better. Hardware is nice yes, but it's nothing without the proper software optimizations. If we do get to overlock I'd probably just pump it to 1.4 - 1.5 , since I think atm that's the point before you get diminishing returns.
Edit: Speaking of temps battery/cpu are at like 103-104 while watching Netflix with full screen brightness. I wonder how high the clock speeds can go without bumping voltage.
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Miui and cm7 would need custom kernels, so no.
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disagree.. i had MIUI (official) and CM7 (unofficial port) on my Milestone 1 which had locked bootloader as well. and RAZR will get unlocked eventually, Motorola said that.
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Isn't overclocking going to be out of the question without a custom kernel?
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Dx got over clocked too.
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It will get something no doubt. CM7 doesn't natively support webtop on atrix 4G so that would also apply for the razr...
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....and RAZR will get unlocked eventually, Motorola said that.
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Are you sure the bootloader can be unlock ?
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Are you sure the bootloader can be unlock ?
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Well, Moto has explicitly said it will be unlockable so unless they were purposefully lying, I would say yes.
I read here (sorry it's in french forum) the bootloader is lock .... Because I must do a choice betwen GN and RAZR and I like more the Razr but if it s lock I chose the GN ....
When do you think we can say really if the bootlader is really lock or not ?
The BL is locked. However, it'll be unlocked with ICS update, coming in late december this year or january 2012.
The locked BL will make you unable to flash proper custom ROMs, only "hacked" ones and it isn't possible to make a decent and really performancewise custom ROM at the moment with a locked BL.
It will prevent you to install custom kernels, too.
Anyway, don't worry, from the statement Motorola made, if they won't unlock it with ICS (they will as they've done the same thing on ATRIX w/GB) they'll be suable as they've made a public statment confirming a thing that has made us to buy a 560 euros device.
Thanks for that, I hope because I prefer this phone ....
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Are you sure the bootloader can be unlock ?
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positive, i'm absolutely sure it will get unlocked. Motorola already said that several times now..
So a locked bootloader will not prevent one from installing a custom ROM but only a custom kernel?
What's the difference between a ROM and kernel?
The XT720 is locked and had miui, overclocking and about a dozen roms.
Besides, I thought safestrap basically solves this problem for us?
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just curius, what would the advantages be of a custom kernel for the atrix ?
normally i think custom roms is good if you have some flaws on the phone you want to fix (filesystem on SGS or too low internal memory on the desire) but the atrix is more or less perfect as it is so why do people complain so much about the locked bootloader ?
Get rid of blur, and anything that runs in the background you can't stop from running. Wifi hotspot without paying. Less lag. Less force closes. Those are a few possibilities.
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Get rid of blur, and anything that runs in the background you can't stop from running. Wifi hotspot without paying. Less lag. Less force closes. Those are a few possibilities.
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so basicly zero advantages since this can be done without a custom kernel ?
Pretty much xD
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Pretty much xD
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i wonder why people complain so much about the locked bootloader then
Theres really not too much. My evo friends are always talking about how the custom kernals are more efficient but we have so much power its not an issue. They always have problems with there custom roms and kernals. Everything never works all the time.
But they could make our phone more customizable, the possibilites would be endless if we had a unlocked bootloader.
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Theres really not too much. My evo friends are always talking about how the custom kernals are more efficient but we have so much power its not an issue. They always have problems with there custom roms and kernals. Everything never works all the time.
But they could make our phone more customizable, the possibilites would be endless if we had a unlocked bootloader.
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yeah thats what i figured, custom kernels is good on the old phones lige galaxy s, htc desire etc.
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yeah thats what i figured, custom kernels is good on the old phones lige galaxy s, htc desire etc.
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yeh i kind of think thats motos point with the locked BL basicaly there saying that there phones are good the way they are and don't need to be fuxed with.... personally i am pretty content with it as it.. just threw launcher pro on .. didnt even really freeze motoblur stuff with titanium(cuz i dont know how or what to freeze) but as for lag... never once had a problem with it.. even on the lapdock things run smooth as i could ask for.. great device... absolutely great... people can say what they will about moto... but i definitely think they stepped up there game with this device..
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hey
just curius, what would the advantages be of a custom kernel for the atrix ?
normally i think custom roms is good if you have some flaws on the phone you want to fix (filesystem on SGS or too low internal memory on the desire) but the atrix is more or less perfect as it is so why do people complain so much about the locked bootloader ?
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I think one of the main advantages is a custom recovery. This allows for the easy implementation of roms, themes, and hacks via zips. Nandroid backups is another useful feature.
With custom kernals comes overclocking, undervolting, kernal optimizations, screen fixes, and many other tweaks.
The fuss about it is this....its our bloody phone. We pay hundreds of dollars for a device and should be able to what we want with it. Its the same as the sony vs geohot fiasco. Its our hardware, let us play.
The phone is great now. Id say the most powerful android device. But in six months or even a year from now there will be devices just as or more powerful on the market. Without kernel access devs can't fine tune or maximize the hardwares potential. So in six months when you could have the latest and greatest ported over to your atrix to keep up with tech trends well be stuck with what moto allows us to have.
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You can put stock gingerbread on the atrix?
Its nice to have the gingerbread notification status bar and keyboard in the roms available, but they didn't just change things cosmetically with GB.
Also what happens when Motorola stops supporting the device after maybe one big software release? Locked bootloader means no new version of android past what Moto may deliever us.
This hardware is quite capable, but that doesn't mean Moto won't release an Atrix 2 next year and but the next version of android on that and leave us out in the cold.
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I think one of the most important benefits is a fringe benefit - with an unlocked bootloader, more devs are motivated to work on the device and hence more customization options even though many of them don't really require a custom kernel.
Hi all
I am looking to install CM7 on my phone and have been doing a fair bit of reading before taking the plunge.
I am relatively happy on the steps involved now, the order to do them in and (roughly) how to do them. The only bit which I am a little sketchy on is the RAM issue from unlocking the bootloader.
I am on an Orange UK handset and understand that a side effect of the unlock is ending up with ~300Mb RAM. The details in the fix here don't seem to quite make sense to me.
I guess what I am really asking is, after unlocking the bootloader and installing CM7 will my phone still only register ~300Mb or is that fix just for stock Gingerbread ROMs? The guide refers to Orange FR Gingerbread which I obviously do not want (I am currently running stock 2.2.2 Orange UK firmware).
I apologise as I am sure this has come up before but I want to do this correctly.
Many thanks for any guidance.
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Hi all
I am looking to install CM7 on my phone and have been doing a fair bit of reading before taking the plunge.
I am relatively happy on the steps involved now, the order to do them in and (roughly) how to do them. The only bit which I am a little sketchy on is the RAM issue from unlocking the bootloader.
I am on an Orange UK handset and understand that a side effect of the unlock is ending up with ~300Mb RAM. The details in the fix here don't seem to quite make sense to me.
I guess what I am really asking is, after unlocking the bootloader and installing CM7 will my phone still only register ~300Mb or is that fix just for stock Gingerbread ROMs? The guide refers to Orange FR Gingerbread which I obviously do not want (I am currently running stock 2.2.2 Orange UK firmware).
I apologise as I am sure this has come up before but I want to do this correctly.
Many thanks for any guidance.
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I rooted my phone and I never installed the ram fix. I was always sitting on350-400 of ram with like 60 other so apps on there. I installed cm7 and now get 550-600 with the same apps and settings. My phone boots up in 7 seconds top from when you see the bootlogo to the lockscreen. Its so fast
Heres my quad scores oced @1.3
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Keep in mind the OP is asking about international Orange versions of the Atrix not USA AT&T, I don't think USA AT&T versions are experiencing this odd RAM problem.
Phalanx7621 said:
Keep in mind the OP is asking about international Orange versions of the Atrix not USA AT&T, I don't think USA AT&T versions are experiencing this odd RAM problem.
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Ahh good call, I had crap for ram on blur roms lol
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Incase anyone else is interested to know, I took the plunge and just went ahead and did it this evening:
1) Unlock bootloader
2) Root phone
3) Installed CM7
After point 1, I only had the ~300Mb available. After point 3, I have the full ~800Mb available...
So, the answer is the RAM restriction is only on Moto ROMs. I presume the obvious answer is this is linked to the kernel so CM7 works just fine.
surrealjam said:
Incase anyone else is interested to know, I took the plunge and just went ahead and did it this evening:
1) Unlock bootloader
2) Root phone
3) Installed CM7
After point 1, I only had the ~300Mb available. After point 3, I have the full ~800Mb available...
So, the answer is the RAM restriction is only on Moto ROMs. I presume the obvious answer is this is linked to the kernel so CM7 works just fine.
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See. Same thing happened to me lol
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See. Same thing happened to me lol
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Cm7 has the ram fix built into the ROM I believe
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Cm7 has the ram fix built into the ROM I believe
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Apparently de-blur ROMs all seem to do that, i'm an international user and flashed Home Base and also the ROM problem is gone and the phone is just saaaaaaaaaa fast!
Only one qualm though, it gets a tad too hot for my liking, next step is to learn more about undervolting to see if i can somehow control the overheating...
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Apparently de-blur ROMs all seem to do that, i'm an international user and flashed Home Base and also the ROM problem is gone and the phone is just saaaaaaaaaa fast!
Only one qualm though, it gets a tad too hot for my liking, next step is to learn more about undervolting to see if i can somehow control the overheating...
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It uses a 1.3 GHz kernel so you should set up profiles to underclock when you don't need all that power
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finally found a thread which got some info after searching for a month.i dont own an atrix planning to buy one.i also dont undestand this issue of ram.is it for those who use stock rom.because the fix is using an orangefr.
do other roms contain the fix like cm7.
im planning to use a stock middle east rom
or a custom rom which supports arabic.
its the kernel contained within the CM7 rom, it contains the unified kernel with the ram fix for at&t and international users...
surrealjam said:
Hi all
I am looking to install CM7 on my phone and have been doing a fair bit of reading before taking the plunge.
I am relatively happy on the steps involved now, the order to do them in and (roughly) how to do them. The only bit which I am a little sketchy on is the RAM issue from unlocking the bootloader.
I am on an Orange UK handset and understand that a side effect of the unlock is ending up with ~300Mb RAM. The details in the fix here don't seem to quite make sense to me.
I guess what I am really asking is, after unlocking the bootloader and installing CM7 will my phone still only register ~300Mb or is that fix just for stock Gingerbread ROMs? The guide refers to Orange FR Gingerbread which I obviously do not want (I am currently running stock 2.2.2 Orange UK firmware).
I apologise as I am sure this has come up before but I want to do this correctly.
Many thanks for any guidance.
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ive had a similar problem after unlocking the bootloader on my tmob uk atrix while still on stock rom. i had ~500 free average before unlocking the bootloaader. after doing the unlock i now have ~100meg free at any time. i tried aliens#4 rom and still encountered this problem
UPDATE
i flashed faux's unified kernal. solved it
ram fix
i got bellgb2.3.6 im d00, everything works great including lapdock
now i have 300mb ram,
did you got any solution?
If I recall correctly, Faux v0.2.3 kernel has the fix built into it.
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Not trying to get off topic here but would it be possible with a hack to get all the ram to show up. For example, I want all the ram (1GB) to show up instead of 815MB Available. I understand that the android system allocates ~250MB for the OS but I heard that you can make it so all the ram shows up.
quick question, im running Nottach's wet dream rom with faux's 123 unified 1.3GHz kernal. Im not having any problems with the ram, i get an avg of 500mb. i did have a problem before with was solved with one of faux's kernels. what will happen if i flash the ramfix? nothing or will i get more available?
parkodrive said:
quick question, im running Nottach's wet dream rom with faux's 123 unified 1.3GHz kernal. Im not having any problems with the ram, i get an avg of 500mb. i did have a problem before with was solved with one of faux's kernels. what will happen if i flash the ramfix? nothing or will i get more available?
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I flashed this ramfix over my wetdream 1.4.4 with the faux gb1.45Ghz kernel and nthing happened i get the same mount of ram i guess it was already built into the kernel
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I flashed this ramfix over my wetdream 1.4.4 with the faux gb1.45Ghz kernel and nthing happened i get the same mount of ram i guess it was already built into the kernel
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Thought it might be. I flashed the enhanced stock kernel when i was having ram issues on the Alien rom
Im just wondering what the differences are that make the Droid X get Cyanogenmod and ICS ports and not the Droid X2. I thought the Droid X had a locked bootloader as well. If someone found a way around the locked bootloader on the Droid X, why wont the same method work for us? Are the ROM ports for the Droid X "dumbed down" versions of the ROMs in order for them to work on a locked bootloader? If so, again, why cant we get them? I know there is probably some technical answer that sums it up. Im just asking out of curiosity.
From my understanding, the Droid X got a leaked dev rom that contained the unlocked bootloader. I'm not 100% sure where this was acquired, perhaps someone can chime in.
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From my understanding, the Droid X got a leaked dev rom that contained the unlocked bootloader. I'm not 100% sure where this was acquired, perhaps someone can chime in.
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Lucky DX users. lol. I cant wait to have some unlocked bootloader goodness. I hope the X2 Devs get this thing unlocked soon. Im rootin' for them.
I just came from a droid X. The bootloader never got unlocked, but the devs found out how enable the droid X to run everything as if it had an unlocked bootloader except custom kernels by using 2nd init. The roms were not dumbed down at all and we had everything from CM7 to MIUI to OMFGB.
No unlocked bootloader. TBH got a leaked dev sbf I think or the like.
Thats what I thought. I thought none of Motorolas phones where unlocked. Its just weird that two phones that are pretty much identical, cant run the same stuff. I wish we could just take the stuff that "unlocked" the Droid X and use it for us. Im ready to flash something new on my phone.
Oh sorry folks. I remember there was a Droid X overclock and thought they manage to unlock the bootloader.
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Thats what I thought. I thought none of Motorolas phones where unlocked. Its just weird that two phones that are pretty much identical, cant run the same stuff. I wish we could just take the stuff that "unlocked" the Droid X and use it for us. Im ready to flash something new on my phone.
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There are unlocked Motorola phones
ATRIX, photon,
The XOOM came out as a google experience device as well
Btw, they're not identical, I believe the x has a different processor.
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jsgraphicart said:
Thats what I thought. I thought none of Motorolas phones where unlocked. Its just weird that two phones that are pretty much identical, cant run the same stuff. I wish we could just take the stuff that "unlocked" the Droid X and use it for us. Im ready to flash something new on my phone.
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they look similar... but that's pretty much where the similarities ends.. if you mess around with the x and the x2... you'll find out they vary allot... recovery is very different... the only reboot options the x has is bootloader/safe/recovery... where are the x2 has a fastboot mode and all that... with the dual core processor as opposed to the x's single core...
but the reason why the x2 is just now getting cm7 is pretty simple...kinda...
to get into bootstrap with the x2... you need to plug your phone in order to use bootstrap... with the x.. and most other phones this is isn't necessary... and this is because there are some files for the screen and what not... dragonzkiller has a great post explaining this in dev section... for some of those necessary files to run the phone even in recovery... you can't unmount the /system... and by requiring the phone to be plugged in... koush said this was a "dirty hack" and that's why rom manager doesn't actually support the x2... which has lead to a lack of development...
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they look similar... but that's pretty much where the similarities ends.. if you mess around with the x and the x2... you'll find out they vary allot... recovery is very different... the only reboot options the x has is bootloader/safe/recovery... where are the x2 has a fastboot mode and all that... with the dual core processor as opposed to the x's single core...
but the reason why the x2 is just now getting cm7 is pretty simple...kinda...
to get into bootstrap with the x2... you need to plug your phone in order to use bootstrap... with the x.. and most other phones this is isn't necessary... and this is because there are some files for the screen and what not... dragonzkiller has a great post explaining this in dev section... for some of those necessary files to run the phone even in recovery... you can't unmount the /system... and by requiring the phone to be plugged in... koush said this was a "dirty hack" and that's why rom manager doesn't actually support the x2... which has lead to a lack of development...
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No... The lack of dev was due to the bootloader being locked. But now that they have gotten 2nd-Init working the dev should pick up.
Mixer themed cm7 X duce
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No... The lack of dev was due to the bootloader being locked. But now that they have gotten 2nd-Init working the dev should pick up.
Mixer themed cm7 X duce
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I hope so. An ICS port would be pretty cool too.
The lack of dev support is the reason I miss my DX. Hope that changes soon!
I recently moved from an Evo to the Photon. I've used CM7 basically since it came out for the Evo and an very used to the interface and miss the simplicity of it... well, I think I miss the simplicity of it.
Since it has been about a month now I'm kind of itching for the hacking and tinkering that comes with custom ROMs instead of just stock. I'm curious, from those who have moved from Blur to CM7 or CM9 - is it worth it? I know CM9 is alpha and still missing features, which I'm fine with, I just need a little convincing that it's worth it. After 4 Evos I could root, install CWM and a ROM with my eyes closed, so any amount of effort on my Photon seems daunting again.
Once you get past the unlocking part, the rest is a cake walk. I'd recommend starting with CM7 just to get your feet wet again. CM9 is a great ROM (in my opinion) only lacking a camera. But you're going to be hard pressed to find too many people recommending against ROMing. Cm7 and CM9 are both quicker, seem to have better battery, and way less bloat.
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Thanks. And with the Photon to get back to CM I need to unlock the bootloader right? Looks like the Pudding instructions are a one-stop shop for bootloader unlock, then root and getting CWM on. Once CWM is on I'm back into familiar territory.
I've had the pleasure of running both CM7 and CM9 alpha19 - personally, I really like the look and feel of CM9, and joker has done a fantastic job with it, but for my daily driver, I'm on CM7, and it has definitely not disappointed. You should try out both and have fun playing around, but right now CM7 is at a more polished state.
Best,
K
Unlocking break 4g as of now though... so be careful.
All the links for unlocking are broken. We need a new thread with new working links. I would start over from stock and tweak to CM7 till CM9 comes out. Which thread has the better CM7?
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Unlocking break 4g as of now though... so be careful.
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I don't have 4G where I live... probably never will since Sprint is transitioning to LTE.
Just curious - does unlocking permanently break 4g or will 4g work if you recover back to stock?
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I don't have 4G where I live... probably never will since Sprint is transitioning to LTE.
Just curious - does unlocking permanently break 4g or will 4g work if you recover back to stock?
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It will recover to stock. Problem is the links provided are broken and I have no patience to look for hopeful working ones.
jeggen said:
I don't have 4G where I live... probably never will since Sprint is transitioning to LTE.
Just curious - does unlocking permanently break 4g or will 4g work if you recover back to stock?
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It will not permanently break it. You just need to flash back to stock or locked ROM such as skinnyROM and you'll be fine.
Cm9
I would have to say to wait until cm9 has a better battery life and more stable but till then just use cm 7.2
OP,
I was in the same boat with the EVO on CM7. this is what id do and am doing...
Flash CM7 and configure it the way you want it. coming from the EVO, youll be blown away by the HP that the Photon has on CM7. be careful and wear a bib bc youll drool some. ha ha After youve enjoyed the CM7, id backup and then flash CM9 and help out with the testing. The more people we have catching issues and sharing tips, the better the project will be.
It only take that few minutes to restore the CM7 image and your back to a solid daily w camera. if you can live wo a camera for now (i personally dont need a phone as a camera) then hangout with CM9 crowd.
Either way, youll LOVE CM on the Photon over the EVO. Welcome to the Photon club!
This thread is making me want to root my Photon
I, too had an EVO that I rooted & loved CM7 on it. This thread is making me want to root the photon now. I know that I will for sure if the Photon doesn't get any ICS love!
You can oc cm7 with jokers kernels but that depends on your hardware. I was able to get 1.4, others could go 1.3. Even if you decide on jokers skinny rom, that has a custom kernel too.
Edit: I just read that you can of cm9. is that true?
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So my question still, Which thread is the CM7 I should use?
So it sounds like really no compelling reason to stay on stock rom except being lazy. Fair interpretation?
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So it sounds like really no compelling reason to stay on stock rom except being lazy. Fair interpretation?
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Yes. The difference between bloated stock and light CM7 is night and day.
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So my question still, Which thread is the CM7 I should use?
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Cm7.2 Kang rom 1-22
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This might be a silly question, but even with a locked bootloader, why can't we just use the stock bootloader as a bootstrap to launch a stripped-down ROM whose only purpose in life is to act like GRUB/HaRET and boot into our own kernel, then continue booting into our "real" ROM (which depends upon and actually uses the second kernel)? I have to admit that my kernel-level Linux knowledge is pretty minimal, but I was under the impression that on a Linux system, root is God and can do pretty much anything... so why not force a custom runlevel to shut down the stock kernel, then launch and fork into a different one after the fact?
Assuming this is possible, wouldn't it also solve the hard part of our 4G problem, by allowing the radio modem to be initialized with the hidden cert by the stock kernel, then pull the rug out from under it and replace the kernel with our own once it's done its job at startup?
For me there is no compelling reason to choose CM7 versus stock. CM9 would be the way to go if it had camera support.
Hopefully the upcoming Atrix soak test will give the devs the drivers they need to push CM9 to beta.
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So it sounds like really no compelling reason to stay on stock rom except being lazy. Fair interpretation?
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No - those of us who stay stock are not lazy, and there is absolutely no reason to descend into name-calling here.
I stay stock because I'm satisfied with my Photon stock - I will move to custom once ICS camera drivers are available.
Same here, CM7 on EVO was great.
Now that I have CM9 on my HP Touchpad, I am waiting for a stable build for CM9 for the Photon.
I know some of you will say, "Why not get Galaxy S3?" or Why not get cheaper LG Viper 4G LTE?" The reason is I cant. I cant upgrade to 2012 smartphone without losing my old data plan. If i do that, I will be forced to get new data plan which is $54.99. Im on Sprint Relay Data only for $39.99( Im hard of hearing btw) RIght now, I have Samsung Epic 4G. Pretty old I know and it tend to die fast even with new Galaxy SII battery. I am a techie guy that know how to root and install custom roms. Right now, Im thinking abt getting Motorola Photon 4G since it can be hack to run on tmobile/At&t when I planning to leave Sprint in the future. Is Motorola Photon is a good phone??? (In term of hardware)
I have it and I think its a great phone hardware speaking
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I have another question. Can I just unlock bootloader, flash different rom, then relock bootloader to get 4G back. Can I do it?
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I have another question. Can I just unlock bootloader, flash different rom, then relock bootloader to get 4G back. Can I do it?
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Nope. It's not the rom that's the problem, its having that rom use a non stock kernel. To keep 4g, you would have to use a psuedorom that doesnt mess with the kernel. The only one still in development is MOF's 2.3.5ish rom.
But yes, the Photon is an amazing phone. Without a doubt the best I've ever had. And ICS is supposed to officially drop soon so that means our Jelly Bean and ICS roms will be working flawlessly. The only risk you run in ordering a Photon is that it might already have 2.3.5 on it. If this is the case, you wont be able to unlock thus unable to install any custom roms. If you do choose to get it, order it from ebay or something and make sure to ask the seller to verify it still has 2.3.4 on it by going into About Phone.
alright thanks for clarification
Great choice for you as you can have a very good phone at a affordable price. I am on Cm10 on my photon it's fantastic can give any 2012 phone a value for money competition
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Found MotoPho with Android 2.3.4 on ebay for $160. Perfect! Will be buying on Tues night
Is CM10 is stable now (like very useful for daily driving)?
silverhawknike said:
Found MotoPho with Android 2.3.4 on ebay for $160. Perfect! Will be buying on Tues night
Is CM10 is stable now (like very useful for daily driving)?
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What a steal
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Cm10 is very stable. It has been my daily driver for past two days absolutely no issues except minor niggles already mentioned(white screen in camera but still takes beautiful pictures, camcorder not working etc)
jellybean popping on Cm10
silverhawknike said:
Found MotoPho with Android 2.3.4 on ebay for $160. Perfect! Will be buying on Tues night
Is CM10 is stable now (like very useful for daily driving)?
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Considering it was released last week it's stable as hell. Obviously it'll take a bit to work out the kinks. Sending/receiving mms messages is messed up for some people, camera is a bit laggy, camcorder doesnt work, noticeable twitching in general due to the lack of 2d libs, overheats slightly, and some are reporting iffy battery life. But the exact same problems exist on our CM9 and that has been out for many months. Basically, it's about as stable as its gonna get without the proper pieces we need from Motorola. Considering they said the Atrix's official ICS build is coming in Q3 and our Photon is nearly the exact same phone, I would say we'll have the pieces we need by the end of August or mid September. Guess we will see. Congrats on getting such a good price!
Need help finding ROM with Vanilla launcher
Just brought Motorola Photon 4G on ebay and it will come on Sat or Mon! I also told him not to update it haha.
Meanwhile, i want a stable vanilla rom and this rom is close as vanilla rom. Can I flash that rom ? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1224896 Or any roms that have vanilla launcher. Not a big fan of ADW launcher btw.
Yeah you should be able to flash that, but it is kind of outdated. If you want to use cm7 you don't have to use adw launcher. Just download a different one.
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Hmm, i can do that. What abt CM9 for MotoPho?
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Hmm, i can do that. What abt CM9 for MotoPho?
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Alien is quite dated. No one has worked on that since last year. Technically, CyanogenMod is vanilla android with extra customization options. Blows AOSP out of the water and is clean as a whistle. CM7.2(gingerbread), CM9(ICS), CM10(JB) -- take your pick! Id start out with 7.2 as everything works flawlessly. Once you are familiar with everything and are willing to deal with a few bugs but still stable builds, try CM9 or 10.