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Hi,
I'm currently using JuicePlotter to see how my battery drains over time and this past night I think it drained more than it should (or maybe not).
For the ones who don't know, JuicePlotter runs in the background (of course) analyzing your battery, that too wastes battery juice of course. Thought, the app dev says on his website:
Perhaps the most important feature of JuicePlotter is that - unlike all similar apps and widgets - it's very battery friendly;
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So I'm not sure if the problem lies on JuicePlotter or not, I'll have to test it one night without it...
This is how JuicePlotter displays it's graph:
The coloured bands along the graph show your screen brightness, radio usage, charging status and battery temperature. Just scroll around to find precise information and make sense of the different colours.
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I went to bed at 4:10 with the battery at 97%. Around 13:00, it was at 89% and I didn't receive any calls/messages/mails/whatever during the night. The WiFi/3G was off all night along with the screen of course. The battery temperature remained the same too. I don't know if it makes a difference but I normally turn off Auto-Sync if the WiFi is off too.
Is it normal to lose 8% of battery juice in 9h in standby? I think it's a bit too much, but I don't know... Does the same happens to you too? What else cloud it be?
Interesting looking app. I've never noticed much of a lose overnight. Just installed the app, will fully charge and give you an update tomorrow.
Also how's the cell reception in your area? I've heard it can drain the battery a far bit if the reception is low.
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I'll have to do more testing but I think it's the app's problem... Tonight, I went to bed with 83% and it was exactly the same when I woke up...
I fully charged mine last night and turned on JuicePlotter. Still showing 100% this morning. Both in the app and on the phones battery indicator (in the notification bar). Do you know of any other apps similar to this that could be run in tandem?
Weird, Battery Graph also does the same thing...
This needs more days of testing on my part...
My battery goes from 100% - 0% in about 16hrs... doesn't matter how much I use the phone or not.
I have BatteryGraph but the results don't really mean anything to me as it just shows battery life vs time on a scale.
I'll try JuicePlotter to see if I can pin down exactly what's causing my terrible battery life.
I have a feeling it's running at full speed even when in standby but I'm not sure how to check if this is the case. Any ideas?
EDIT: Looking at BatteryGraph I've lost 15% in around 1hr... nothing unusual going on with my phone that I know about... just standard stuff running in the background. Perhaps the battery itself is simply past it's best.
CitizenLee said:
My battery goes from 100% - 0% in about 16hrs... doesn't matter how much I use the phone or not.
I have BatteryGraph but the results don't really mean anything to me as it just shows battery life vs time on a scale.
I'll try JuicePlotter to see if I can pin down exactly what's causing my terrible battery life.
I have a feeling it's running at full speed even when in standby but I'm not sure how to check if this is the case. Any ideas?
EDIT: Looking at BatteryGraph I've lost 15% in around 1hr... nothing unusual going on with my phone that I know about... just standard stuff running in the background. Perhaps the battery itself is simply past it's best.
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Wow that is terrible, try apps like Taskpanel and when you add programs to your auto kill list the program kills the programs as long as they are running in the background when the screen is off, however if you are on lets say your browser and you don't go to your homescreen the screen goes off into stand by it will not kill the app. Also try draining your battery to the point it shuts down by itself, plug it in let it charge for a bit, boot into recovery wipe battery stats start up the phone or leave it off (your choice) and let it charge fully. Are you using setcpu or OC Widget or anything? If you are using SetCPU make a profile for when screen is off and make it underclocked like 264 Mhz to 480Mhz, or with OC Widget tick the 'use different screen frequencies' (don't remember what it is called since I don't use it) and do the same; I like SetCPU better because when you turn the screen on it switches profile faster where as OC Widget takes its time however with SetCPU do not use the widget it will cause Sense to FC and I'm not sure about Vanilla.
Hope this makes sense since all my ideas are said at once.
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shelnes said:
The way I've learned to recalibrate the battery is to let it go down to 5%, boot phone into recovery and wipe batterystats, then power off the phone. Let the phone charge until the green led is on without turning it on. Then turn on and use the phone as usual. Learned it over at modaco. Worked as a charm, and batterytime was improved. I have personally experienced strange batterybehaviour after periods with flashing a lot of roms.
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Here.
That's interesting...
Cause I've been playing with ROMs latetly, creating my own, testing hacks and stuff... And most of the time the phone is plugged and the battery is charged, during the flashing process it's using the battery and then it charges again. I also have to leave from time to time and when I get back I continue my stuff, meaning I'm charging the battery at high levels.
I'll have to try that calibrate method...
For now, for the past 2 nights, with JuicePlotter off, I've noticed the battery level did not change at all during the night. Tonight I'm going to try one more time with JuicePlotter on...
MentalDeath said:
Wow that is terrible
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Wiped battery stats at 5% last night, let the phone die and then charged whislt off until green light came on. Been keeping an eye on it all day and there has been a noticable improvement.
The phone came off charge at around 2am (so around 12hrs ago) and it has only lost 20%, which is a lot better than I was getting before.
It was probably just due to me messing about with some many ROMs and update zips lately as I tend not to have too much crap running in the background (I use OSMonitor).
I will look into setCPU but I remember trying it before with VR12 and it ended up causing some weird problems meaning I needed to do a full wipe to get everything working again.
Thanks for the help
This night, with JuicePlotter on, I only lost 1%, seems reasonable now... I don't know why that one time I lost 8% during the night. Maybe an isolated case? Something was probably running when it shouldn't, I just don't know what.
Ive noticed serious battery drain since I first bought this fascinate from telus. On 2.1it lasted around 11 hours. Since upgrading to 2.2 leak, id say 8 hoirs max with only approx 1 hour of uusage and the rest on standby. I turned of sync, auto brightnrss and turned brightndss as.low as possible. I make sure no apps r running in the background. Yet it still dies superfast. Is this a issue with my battery thr phone itself or firmware or kernal. Its been a week of trying to find the problem so any help would b greatly appreciated. At tgis time im running 2.2 leak with all the files it came with and no root. Thx in advNce
And hour and 12 minutes with about 30 min of internwt surfing and im down to 80 percent WTF
I update OTA last week on Verizon to Froyo 2.2. My battery was overheating and draining like crazy from my CPU usage being at a constant 99%..
I found the source of the problem. An app I use for facebook called "FLOW". The CPU usage was cut to 20% when I killed it with "Advanced Task Killer".
I resolved the issue by: Opening Flow.. going to Preferences.. Notification Settings.. Refresh Type.. Checked Periodic Polling (I was using Gmail Experimental previously)
Hope this helps...
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And hour and 12 minutes with about 30 min of internwt surfing and im down to 80 percent WTF
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sounds about average for a fascinate....
I'm on telus as well and also have terrible battery life, I've found no fix other than completely turning off Data using the toggle when holding the power button. Flashing a new rom might fix this but I've been to scared to since I bricked a phone trying it the first time. Hopefully when/if ever we get a 2.3 update it fixes this
Does anyone know where one can get an extended battery for this? I picked one up but it's for the friggin Verizon US version, and the battery cover isn't compatible, even though the battery fits(camera doesn't align, speaker's not even close).
Seriously, the American counterpart's accessories have been my biggest frustration with this phone, next to battery life...
Thought I'd give this a bump. The battery life on this Telus Fascinate 4G is truly disappointing and jumping through hoops trying to find and kill apps and services with and without utilities is wasting far too much of my time.
Anybody get a good handle on this?
Bump for same problem.
Samsung Fascinate SCH-i500 Verizon
Running unmodified and unrooted. The phone itself works perfect. No problems other than the phone seriously eats battery. Yes the battery is still good and nothing wrong with it. Plugged in it charges super slowly. And the screen itself takes more than it provides. So i did the following.
A. Changed battery to a known working one.
B. Check with car charger and a home charger. As well as official samsung charger.
C. Gave a ROM a try. Running Dirty Unicorn. Lowered cpu to 800 max and 100 min.
D. Turned display to 50% Brightness.
My only try now is to try a different kernel or something. Im also thinking that the display itself is the culprit somehow eating to much voltage.
Or the gpu. The phones operating temps are good.
I have another post here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2430393 relating to where i have a USB problem and need help figuring it out. There has not been any replies. So i am taking upon myself to learn more. Ive worked with 3 Droid Milestones. Hopefully these two i500s will not be to hard. I need help on this new i500 to see if its not the motherboard. The charging port is on the motherboard and if this replacement eats batteries , then the point would be mute to use it for a working USB. A conundrum.
Do i try a different kernel or somthing else. Whats my next step.. Please help.
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Samsung Fascinate SCH-i500 Verizon
Running unmodified and unrooted. The phone itself works perfect. No problems other than the phone seriously eats battery. Yes the battery is still good and nothing wrong with it. Plugged in it charges super slowly. And the screen itself takes more than it provides. So i did the following.
A. Changed battery to a known working one.
B. Check with car charger and a home charger. As well as official samsung charger.
C. Gave a ROM a try. Running Dirty Unicorn. Lowered cpu to 800 max and 100 min.
D. Turned display to 50% Brightness.
My only try now is to try a different kernel or something. Im also thinking that the display itself is the culprit somehow eating to much voltage.
Or the gpu. The phones operating temps are good.
I have another post here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2430393 relating to where i have a USB problem and need help figuring it out. There has not been any replies. So i am taking upon myself to learn more. Ive worked with 3 Droid Milestones. Hopefully these two i500s will not be to hard. I need help on this new i500 to see if its not the motherboard. The charging port is on the motherboard and if this replacement eats batteries , then the point would be mute to use it for a working USB. A conundrum.
Do i try a different kernel or somthing else. Whats my next step.. Please help.
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what else do you have running?
what is the battery life overall usage? and screen usage hours?
screen is always gonna be the highest consumer of your battery
50% still pretty high unless you are out in sunlight, I keep mine between 0 and 30 % unless in sunlight
you can try running the greenify app from playstore.
what king of life are you expecting to get? anywhere between 6hrs to 24 hours total phone battery life is about average depending on how heavy user or how much in standby mode.
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hhp_211 said:
what else do you have running?
what is the battery life overall usage? and screen usage hours?
screen is always gonna be the highest consumer of your battery
50% still pretty high unless you are out in sunlight, I keep mine between 0 and 30 % unless in sunlight
you can try running the greenify app from playstore.
what king of life are you expecting to get? anywhere between 6hrs to 24 hours total phone battery life is about average depending on how heavy user or how much in standby mode.
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Its been on the charger since i posted. its only at 56%
3h 25m left
Screen 55%
Cell Standby 9%
SystemUI 7%
com.maxmpz.audioplayer 7%
Android System 7%
Its defiantly got something wrong as even though it says 56% if I unplug it, it will die in about 10 min. Even with a fully charged battery it does the same. Yes i also waited until 100% and wiped batt stats and at 3% left wiped stats. Screen is in standby
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Its been on the charger since i posted. its only at 56%
3h 25m left
Screen 55%
Cell Standby 9%
SystemUI 7%
com.maxmpz.audioplayer 7%
Android System 7%
Its defiantly got something wrong as even though it says 56% if I unplug it, it will die in about 10 min. Even with a fully charged battery it does the same. Yes i also waited until 100% and wiped batt stats and at 3% left wiped stats. Screen is in standby
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I would recommend going here
[APP][2.1+][16 Apr. - V1.13.4] BetterBatteryStats
you can get better logs and information, plus if something is not easily visible to what is causing problems you can post up a log file for them to look at.
enjoy
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hhp_211 said:
I would recommend going here
[APP][2.1+][16 Apr. - V1.13.4] BetterBatteryStats
you can get better logs and information, plus if something is not easily visible to what is causing problems you can post up a log file for them to look at.
enjoy
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I had installed the program and it didn't really show anything abnormal. Although after installing the Bat Meter, when i shutdown it killed the phone till i ODIN. So tried on the other phone as well. Same thing. Install it and compared notes. Reboot phone and had to ODIN. So maybe bad app? Well whatever. I didn't see anything unusual. Although I did notice something strange about the phone that's bad with charging. I already eliminated the battery as the problem as well as charger. But the phone that is eating battery faster than it can charge, it gets warmer at idle than the other phone. It charged just super super tiny faster than the battery eats using just idle display on lock-screen. As well this phone also with a fully charged battery will read 100% But after about 21 minutes of poweramp at 33% volume on headphones will read about 52%. Then sitting rest at idle no display from 52% down to about 14% popup around another 5 min. Then completely dead in about 3 minutes. And the phone is pretty warm. Today it was ambient temp of around 87* outside and sitting in shade and it was hot enough that it wasn't comfortable on my cheek for more than 20 seconds. Half the time the temps are normal. Now remember I'm not running overclock and actually under clocked to 800. Ive tried 3 different roms with diff kernels and same. Could it possibly be a bad heat-sink? And the extra heat is killing battery?
[Q] Battery Drain
I recently was given a Fascinate and am having similar problems. I was told the phone had a bad battery, so I ordered a replacement. Once I got the new battery in, I flashed the phone with the Carbon ROM [the phone was unlocked, but running the OTA 2.3.5 I believe]. Everything seemed to be working fine the first week or two, but now there appears to be a serious battery drain or leak after I power the phone down. I can charge the phone to 100%, power it on and use it for a period of time, then power it down with 90% or more battery life, but when I turn the phone back on, the battery will either be really low, or completely dead, where the phone won't respond at all until I plug the charger back in.
I reflashed the phone with an AOKP ROM to see if that'd make a difference, but it didn't. I tried using the first battery and the drain/leak still persists. The commonality between the two roms is the Devil kernel, so I'm going to flash a different ROM with a different kernel to see if that makes a difference. I also installed the app mentioned above to log the battery stats/usage to see if anything stands out there.
Has anyone experienced something similiar - the Fascinate consuming battery life while powered off?
Yeah the power off leak does seem to exist.
Can't remember the cause though.
I've not tried to really confirm,, but try popping the battery out then back in after you have powered off,,, then check after it has sat overnight to see if drain still exist..
Mine i just always leave on a charger overnight.
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Thanks for the reply. I'll try that. I've left the phone on today, just put it to sleep during periods of inactivity, and the battery is currently at 75% with occasional mild use after 8+ hours "on".
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After almost two weeks of use, I can confirm that if I power the phone down and do nothing else, the battery will continue to drain to 0%. If I power the phone down then remove and replace the battery, it's fine. It's an extra step, but it works. Thanks again.
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Yeah the power off leak does seem to exist.
Can't remember the cause though.
I've not tried to really confirm,, but try popping the battery out then back in after you have powered off,,, then check after it has sat overnight to see if drain still exist..
Mine i just always leave on a charger overnight.
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***NOTICE***
The ROM Manager version of CWM does NOT wipe battery stats properly, as with many other things. What you need is jt1134's version of CWM that is all happy and works and stuff.
You can find his happy CWM here. And here. And also here.
And here.
Big thanks to LegionTHEFecalExcretion for the heads up on that.
***END NOTICE***
NOTE: On current DL30 and EB01 ROMs, you will not see battery life like you did on DL09 with undervolted kernels. There are NO undervolted kernels as of yet, everything kernel wise with Froyo ROMs in very much stock. These steps will improve your battery life in comparison to when you flashed Froyo, but you are not going to see spectacular changes in battery life up to what you were getting with undervolted DL09, etc. It's just not possible until we get undervolted kernels and Froyo matures for our device, development wise.
Hi everyone, I've been seeing a lot of threads about bad battery life, whether switching to Kaoscinate, Vanilla, or DL30. Stop it! Just kidding. There is a simple process everyone should follow when switching between different enough ROMs, like AOSP, CM6 and TW Eclair and Froyo. This is how you retrain your battery.
1. Charge your battery to 100% (when it gets there, let it SIT there, your phone is NOT reporting correctly).
2. Reboot to Recovery and Advanced -> Wipe Battery Stats.
3. Reboot, and use your phone until it is VERY low (5-10%, you can let it die if you want).
4. Charge your phone back to 100%
5. (Optional) Power down, then power on phone. (Thanks goes to BrwnSuperman for this suggestion, give it a try!)
Your battery issues should be solved. This needs to be done every once in a while, especially when switching between different ROMs and OS versions.
User dalrym05 posted this alternate method for retraining the battery on page 4 as well, so I thought I would share it here in the OP. I'm posting this as a USE AT YOUR OWN RISK method, as I have not tested it, and am not quite sure what the *228 steps for it actually accomplish and have to do with retraining the OS battery reporting, so I'm leaving it quoted to dalrym05 for the time being.
dalrym05 said:
Here were my steps to better battery.
1.*228 option 1
2.*228 option 2
3. Run battery completely dead to 0%
4. Plug in and boot immediately into cwm
5. Wipe battery stats and dalvik cache
6. Reboot and let charge fully before unplugging
7. Completely discharge again and fully charge again.
After this you should notice a very nice increase in battery as I did. My battery life is back up to par with eclair.
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NOTE: I did edit his post to make it a little more clear. I'm slightly anal retentive that way.
HybridByNature had an excellent suggestion on page 4. If people have good tips and tricks for maintaining good battery life, and they are easily reproducible, then I will gladly add them to the OP here. What works for you?
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This might also be a good place to add tips & tricks to extending battery life.
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-Close programs that you aren't using.
-Don't leave your camera or navigation running in the background.
-Turn off WiFi & GPS etc when you aren't using them.
-Don't run your screen at full brightness if you can help it.
-Figure out what uses more battery life than other things:
Pandora, internet browsing, downloading, camera/camcorder, Angry Birds etc.
If you are rooted, try and narrow it down to the best kernel/theme for your situation. I've found that I have better battery with a non-voodoo kernel but the performance increase is worth it so that's a trade-off that I make.
Let's hear from our readers: What is working for you?
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Would not surprise me if this is all it is. I have turned my phone off at 5% for an hour and turned it back on without charging and then it showed 45%. I know when batteries are low letting them sit a little bit can help, but not that much.
It is just being reported inaccurately by the OS.
This how to has been reposted like 9001 times. But yes, this is one day to do it.
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This how to has been reposted like 9001 times. But yes, this is one day to do it.
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Yes, but not as a thread, it gets posted in everyone else's "Why does my battery life suck ass" threads, so I made this so maybe people would see it and try it before posting another useless question thread in Development.
Definitely works though. Did it yesterday. Good post. It has been posted in other threads ... but I think we all know people don't read through everything very often.
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I have the battery charger and 3 batteries, I always run my battery low and leave it in the charger for a day.
I did this last night and it didn't work too well for me.
Also, when I go to wipe battery stats in the recovery, it doesn't tell me if it wiped or not, just goes back to the advanced menu.
And also, should I be concerned that when I cold boot into the recovery, it doesn't appear to be CWM? It says Android recovery...I know I have CWM recovery installed.
Samerhing happens to me... and I just took it off the charger and I'm on 96 percent in less than 1 min
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miguel11691 said:
Samerhing happens to me... and I just took it off the charger and I'm on 96 percent in less than 1 min
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Wow same here..I just took mine off the charger bout 10 minutes ago and it's at 95% now. I guess I'm gonna let the battery run completely dead and charge it and see what happens.
I did something similar. I charged to 100% while it was on, removed from charger then powered off. When phone was off I plugged charger back in and waited til it was at 100% then unplugged again and powered on. Waited until phone was completely on then unplugged again and connected to charger. Waited til it was at 100% and while still plugged in at 100% booted into recovery and wiped battery stats. Then rebooted phone into OS and unplugged. I had tried this previously with DL09 and it helped a little. Last night I wanted to see how my battery would drain after doing this. With WiFi on and I got about 10 emails during the night, from 8:30pm to 6:00am I lost only 13%!!! Previously I would have lost from 35 to 40%. ymmv
jv
my phone doesnt sleep even though my screen is off... how can i fix that
miguel11691 said:
my phone doesnt sleep even though my screen is off... how can i fix that
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Spare Parts says "Time spent without sleeping: 53m 15s (100%)
Wow.
If I go to Battery History and change the top dropdown to Partial Wake Usage, it says Android System at the top with a bar that's at least 75% full.
ataranine said:
Spare Parts says "Time spent without sleeping: 53m 15s (100%)
Wow.
If I go to Battery History and change the top dropdown to Partial Wake Usage, it says Android System at the top with a bar that's at least 75% full.
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Looks like Samsung has to make an update or patch to this LEAKED version LOL. I'm so fed up with people failing from Samsung and Verizon for this device.
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Looks like Samsung has to make an update or patch to this LEAKED version LOL. I'm so fed up with people failing from Samsung and Verizon for this device.
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Yeah looks like I'll be going back to DL09.
ataranine said:
Spare Parts says "Time spent without sleeping: 53m 15s (100%)
Wow.
If I go to Battery History and change the top dropdown to Partial Wake Usage, it says Android System at the top with a bar that's at least 75% full.
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Give it some time. I was showing that as well but after about half a day I rechecked and it showed the correct percentage for Running time.
jv
johnnyv5 said:
Give it some time. I was showing that as well but after about half a day I rechecked and it showed the correct percentage for Running time.
jv
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yours was also telling you it spent 100% of it's time without sleeping? Mine's been doing it for 2h 9m 25s...the same amount of time my phone's been on.
ataranine said:
yours was also telling you it spent 100% of it's time without sleeping? Mine's been doing it for 2h 9m 25s...the same amount of time my phone's been on.
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I was pulling my hair out trying to figure this out too. It seems to have solved itself. Right now it is showing 47% usage. Sorry I couldn't help.
Jv
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This is a proven technique, and it takes patience. Seeing the battery drop from 100% down to 95 or 96% after unplugging is normal behavior. I've done this already. Left my phone unplugged overnight and lost 1% battery. If you're too impatient to take the time to do this, that's your loss. You'll see the battery life "improve" over the course of a few days as the reporting gets more and more accurate.
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I agree with supplysidejesus. This is a standard practice and should be done with each major rom or kernel install. This leak hasn't been put long enough for most of us to know what our expected battery life will be yet. Give it a few days for your phones to adjust.
ataranine said:
yours was also telling you it spent 100% of it's time without sleeping? Mine's been doing it for 2h 9m 25s...the same amount of time my phone's been on.
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try disabling gps in the notifications, that worked for me, but once i turn gps on again, it will drive up to a high percentage.
Hey guys,
How much battery life do you get on your X2?
I just installed CM7 and I'm down to 60% after 5 hours of LOW use :/. Could I need a new battery?
Are you doing anything with the settings of the CPU, such as setting minimum frequency, keeping both CPUs online at all time (this might be set via tweaking scripts)?
In fact, ARE you using any type of tweaking scripts (V6 Turbocharger, speedy, etc)?
I don't use any of them and my battery life is pretty good. I also have an extended battery as well, so that helps.
Let the ROM settle in. After two days you should get a better picture of what it's like. Don't forget to do a battery calibration. I haven't even done that yet and have been lucky enough to have great battery longevity. Can also look into managers like Juice Defender. There's also another app I have used in the past that can limit when an app can run. Like limit Facebook from always running in the background and syncing for data. Ithink it'd LGE or LBE security?
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Are you using the beta and not the alpha? The alpha has a problem with running the CPU at a high percentage when it shouldn't, which cause the battery to suck.
It is possible that you may need a new battery, but more likely is that the X2 simply has notoriously bad battery life. There are, however, things you can try to help. Go to your settings app, scroll down and click on "applications", and from there, open "running processes". Check out some of the processes. There may not be any, and if you see processes running for games or apps you haven't used in the last few minutes, it may mean that they are constantly running in the background. In that case, you may want to consider uninstalling. Try to use wifi over 3g wherever available. Screen brightness is a major battery killer, and as such, may want to keep it on the lowest setting; I've found it to be the most noticeable improvent in battery life. People are going to tell you to calibrate your battery, but I've done that many times on 2 X2s, never seen a difference. My friends and I agree its just a myth, but there's no reason not to try.
Honestly I don't know squat about batteries, but I remember hearing that the voltage of our batteries is 4.2 volts. If that's a measure of capacity like I think, you can try the app "battery left", which I believe has a voltage meter. If its less than that, maybe you should consider a replacement. Please don't take my word on this though, I can't confirm any of this to be true lol. Maybe someone else can offer their opinion on battery health.
This whole post probably seems like a big collection of thoughts. I'm tokin' right now, took me like 20 minutes to type this.
Hope I could help
To add to theredvendetta's comment, if you have your email set to check for messages, it can really have an effect on your battery. If you set it to never check, I'll bet you will see a difference.
iBolski said:
In fact, ARE you using any type of tweaking scripts (V6 Turbocharger, speedy, etc)?
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I have nothing of the sort extra installed (CM7 might of had this stuff, but I don't know).
jsgraphicart said:
Are you using the beta and not the alpha? The alpha has a problem with running the CPU at a high percentage when it shouldn't, which cause the battery to suck.
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I am using the Beta.
@theredvendetta: I installed the Battery Left widget, and when I go into details it's saying some interesting things.
I'm at 50% battery right now. For one, its saying my battery is at 3787 mV. 3.8 volts I would say considerably lower then the 4.3 it should be. My battery is only ~6 months old, but, for 4 of those months it sat unused, uncharged, and in my hot/cold car. I've only run it down a bit and charged it up 4 or 5 times this week since then.
It is reporting "battery health" as good, but idk.
Under "Accuracy" it's saying the charge reading is "Inaccurate" and the bar is totally red, indicating that the estimation of charge is very inaccurate.
Where can I calibrate the battery? I'll look around under Settings for now. EDIT: It's likely I was only around 60% charged or so when I installed the rom.
And as for background tasks, aside from the default stuff and my few widgets (not a heavy user of those) there's just Facebook+Words with Friends, Songbird, GO Keyboard. Not too terrible, I think.
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I have nothing of the sort extra installed (CM7 might of had this stuff, but I don't know).
I am using the Beta.
@theredvendetta: I installed the Battery Left widget, and when I go into details it's saying some interesting things.
I'm at 50% battery right now. For one, its saying my battery is at 3787 mV. 3.8 volts I would say considerably lower then the 4.3 it should be. My battery is only ~6 months old, but, for 4 of those months it sat unused, uncharged, and in my hot/cold car. I've only run it down a bit and charged it up 4 or 5 times this week since then.
It is reporting "battery health" as good, but idk.
Under "Accuracy" it's saying the charge reading is "Inaccurate" and the bar is totally red, indicating that the estimation of charge is very inaccurate.
Where can I calibrate the battery? I'll look around under Settings for now.
And as for background tasks, aside from the default stuff and my few widgets (not a heavy user of those) there's just Facebook+Words with Friends, Songbird, GO Keyboard. Not too terrible, I think.
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I probably should have said this to begin with, but when I was talking about the voltage, I meant 4.2 was the charge when at full charge. I can see I worded my original statement poorly, apologies. Try charging up to full, and then check battery left.
When it says "innacurate", its reffering to the battery percentage reading its giving you. When you have cycled the battery once or twice, it will tell you it is "accurate", and the bar Williams turn green. You may notice parts of the bar turn green while first using the app; this means its picking up readings for the percentage of battery you're on at the time. I mean if you're on 50%, it will soon turn green halfway through the bar. After you have completely cycled the battery once or twice, it will stay green and accurate until you reset it or uninstall.
To calibrate the battery, you have to enter Android recovery. I can't remember 100%, but I believe that you hold the up volume button while booting up the phone. It may be down, you can try both. Hold it until you see text pop up that I think says "fastboot". When you see this, let go of the volume button, and now hit volume down until you see text that says "android recovery". If you accidently cycle past it, keep clicking volume down, as the list loops. When you stop on android recovery, press the up volume key. After a few seconds you will see a new screen with an exclamation mark. Press the up and down keys at the same time. A list of options will now appear. Don't use any of them unless you know what you are doing. There should be an option called advanced or something similar. Cycle to it by using the volume keys, and hit the power button to select it. There will be an option to calibrate you battery in there. Itbwill take a few seconds, and after that, return to the main menu and reboot the phone.
Good lord that took me ages to type. There's no hope with dope kids.
I feel like a broken record, but again, battery calibration does not do anything. If there's a chance the meter is off, just charge until your battery's voltage levels off and use the battery fully before charging again.
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I feel like a broken record, but again, battery calibration does not do anything. If there's a chance the meter is off, just charge until your battery's voltage levels off and use the battery fully before charging again.
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I agree with you. He asked and I answered. 'Sides, there's no harm in trying it, as there are no negative aspects to it.
Im running cm7 and the only mod im running is the 8 touch points. I do have my screen set to the most dim setting thoough. My phone gets unplugged at 5:30 in the morning though out the day I'll talk send some text might play a few games and usually be on the internet about a hour or so. When I get off at 7pm my battery is usually anywhere from 75% to 69%. A few times it has gone 18 hours and only been down to 52%. Give it some time, CM7 has by far the best battery life that Ive seen for this phone.
Yeah, after clearing the davlic cache and going through a few charge cycles, it seems to of improve greatly.
I'm running CM7 and my phone has been unplugged for 23.5 hours with medium usage including 72 minutes total voice call time and I'm currently sitting at 23%, hence my signature lol and this is a stock battery.
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give it a few days but cycle it hard, like don't plug it in until you're below 5%. I have the BH6X (1850mAh vs. 1600mAh) so it's not much of a jump in capacity... your voltage should start out right around 4.2v and drop to about 3.5 when it's close to dead. My phone sucks at telling me how much battery is left, it always has, I typically run this thing dead every day, but some days I'll have upwards of 40% left (voltage is still above 3.8v)
I honestly don't even pay attention to the percentage 'cause I can watch an entire episode of beavis and butthead in HD with the brightness all the way up using software rendering (more power consumption) when I'm below 10% and it won't shut off on me.
it takes me almost a solid two days to kill my battery and I've been on CM7 Beta for a week as of yesterday. at first my battery life was absolute crap, but it has improved... every time you wipe the dalvik it'll take a solid 2-3 days to rebuild it. that uses much more power.
I am prepping for CM7 now. With my mostly stock X2 using Juice Defender I am getting about 1.5 days between charges. When I charge I am about 20% or less on the battery and this is with mostly lite usage. I expect once I make the switch it could take up to a week for everything to level out as it will have to synchronize many things because it will be like having a new phone. When my X2 was new it took about a week to settle in and stop the random crashes. That was also about the time the battery improved from about 1 day between charges. I will write back in a week or two once I have my phone switched and stable.
I used juice defender for awhile but I realized I was really only using it to control data. I just keep a data toggle in the notifications bar. It's really not that much of a hassle to switch it off and it reconnects fast enough. Saves quite a bit of battery power. When I was doing that with my extended battery on liberty I could get about three days.
I am actually impressed with my x2's batt life (although it is a brand new batter when I got the phone a few months ago). I used to have the HTC Desire, and it wasn't the greatest with battery life. My bone stock x2 didn't have the greatest batt life when I first got it, and still wasn't a whole lot better with cm7 installed. But now that I have installed miui on it, and screen brightness is about 70% constant, with wifi ALWAYS enabled. I am going on almost 24 hours now (maybe more??) and I am at 57% with little usage. I've used the phone maybe 2 times today for a total of about 10 minutes talk time, I have no 3g/data, other then wifi when I am at home, so I'm sure that has alot to do with it.
Another tip, that probably everyone already knows, and some people say it doesn't matter, but it seems to for me. ONLY charge your phone when it is less than 10% left, and then make sure it is charged for at least 6-8 hours before you unplug it. I know they say the newer batteries are not effected by this but my wife had the HTC Hero (worst android phone ever IMO), but she would charge it every chance she got, even if it was at 80%. Now, the phone is lucky to hold a charge for 5-6 hours with NO USAGE at all (except wifi always turned on). Granted the phone is older than dirt, and so is the battery, but still. My desire still holds a decent charge considering how old it is. I can get maybe 14-18 hours with no use on it (or very little use) with wifi always on (granted, the phone is bone dead after this time though).
I just altered the cm7 performance settings... back to normal. This combined with a custom juice defender ultimate profile has easily tripled my battery life..
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I get about 3hrs max but im what u would call a heavy user lol
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I feel like a broken record, but again, battery calibration does not do anything. If there's a chance the meter is off, just charge until your battery's voltage levels off and use the battery fully before charging again.
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Yeah I've seen nothing come from battery calibration. I have problems with my meter some days draining really quick and some days just normal. If it's bothering my I'll do a reset and that will usually sync it up. I'll try the charged voltage level off and empty thing and see if that helps.
Thanks.
I was really suffering from massive battery drain....see here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1933012
ive now found out that i am having a very wierd problem...My rom is showing some 30% battery while 4ext shows 50%......Sometimes it is exactly the opposite....Once i discharged my phone to 2% (rom reading) and when i saw in recovery it says 17%....
I have completed many many cycles of battery from charging to full....and discharge to 0.....Also i used the battery callibration app SEVERAL times!!!!........But nothing seems to work...
Can somebody help...Please
I am really suffering from massive battery drain http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1933012 :crying:
Did you try to delete battery stats? Or use an app to improve battery life?
I have the same issue too when booting into recovery. I don't worry about it. I suggest the same as Ramjet in your other thread.
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I had this issue with my old battery and old charger,
Now I dont use my phone while charging , I charge other batteries with the wall charger while using other ones and everything is fine now.... battery % seems to be same in both android and recovery.
I have that same issue too. Lol maybe the recovery can't read the battery correctly. It'll show up higher in recovery and then when I reboot, it will read the same way like in recovery. Tried numerous batteries with the same result. Although I havnt tried battery calibrating. Ill give that a shot.
Is there any solution ??
Try klect's solution and go into recovery, wipe battery stats. Then let your battery drain and die. Then charge your battery back to 100% with no interuptions like pulling your phone off the charger too soon. When you wipe your batt stats you are getting ready to recaliberate your battery. After you let it charge to 100 percent. Let it drain to 0 a couple times to recondition your battery.
You do know that the evo 3D gives around 3 hrs of screen time dont you? even on stock rom on normal usage. If you have the wifi on all the times you'll get around 2:30 maybe 3 on a full charge.
Your battery certainly is draining faster than usual but have you tried keeping it idle and seeing what kind of drain you get? From that screenshot in the other thread it seems like your phone is getting some heavy wifi browsing or something (and do check if facebook or email apps are the culprit. Having push email on drains a lot)
And the recovery/rom reading wrong stats happens all the time. just recalibrate your battery like these good folks here have already suggested
Yes i keep wifi on all the time...
But once i kept my locked for abot 3 hours after full charge...when i unlocked it showed 99%...i was happy and i didn't do anything just surfing my screens it dropped very very fast to some 70 % !!!!
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you really should check your apps battery usage using one of the apps ramjet73 told you about
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There are a bunch of tips here.
Usually that kind of drain is caused by an app. Try running a stock ROM for a day or two and see if the issues go away. Or use one of the battery monitoring apps (BetterBatteryStats, SystemPanel Standard, Battery Monitor Widget) to determine which app is causing your drain.
It may take some work on your part to isolate the problem since there is no global solution to battery problems.
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top culprits are mostly facebook,email exchange,google maps and pretty much anything that syncs alot
Also try using you phone on min brightness auto brightness is also a battery killer
I cant beleive no one asked you this but which kernel are you using? And is it overclocked?
I am on mwakious 13.1 default...no changes to it