Can all Verizon LTE devices do data and voice over 3g?
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Actually, IIRC, only HTC devices at this point have two radios that can do simultaneous voice and data. Even then, the voice is being transmitted on the CDMA1x network and data on EVDO.
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isdnmatt said:
Actually, IIRC, only HTC devices at this point have two radios that can do simultaneous voice and data. Even then, the voice is being transmitted on the CDMA1x network and data on EVDO.
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I tested this last night while in a 3g only area, and you can indeed use data while on the phone in a 3G area with this phone. IIRC the thunderbolt is capable of this as well.
4G can do silmultaineous data/voice.
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Incorrect, I believe the motorola devices cannot. Anandtech's review on the thunderbolt goes over the MANY modems the thunderbolt has.
eallan said:
Incorrect, I believe the motorola devices cannot. Anandtech's review on the thunderbolt goes over the MANY modems the thunderbolt has.
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correct. 10char
Qualcomm FTW
Only LTE devices equipped with the a Qualcomm SoC (such as the Rezound & Thunderbolt) have the ability to simultaneous voice and data.
Marcismo55 said:
Only LTE devices equipped with the a Qualcomm SoC (such as the Rezound & Thunderbolt) have the ability to simultaneous voice and data.
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But doesn't the IPhone do it as well? Or is that AT&T I'm thinking about? Either man that's a cool feature. Something I'd use pretty often
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eallan said:
Incorrect, I believe the motorola devices cannot. Anandtech's review on the thunderbolt goes over the MANY modems the thunderbolt has.
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Sorry , did not think about mototrash phones,never have used them,only HTC.
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reverepats said:
But doesn't the IPhone do it as well? Or is that AT&T I'm thinking about? Either man that's a cool feature. Something I'd use pretty often
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It is only on AT&T. They used to have the commercial about talking and surfing on iphone where the guy forgets his anniversary and makes a reservation while talking with his wife.
Only ATT allows it for the iphone.. but ATT is definitely not the only carrier that allows this like they claimed in their commercials. Probably why you don't see those anymore lol. GET SUED!!!! haha
I've been a verizon customer for a day, came from CSpires mess and haven't looked back. Love my actual 3G speeds and the latest and greatest phones. I don't live in a 4G area but new Orleans and mobile are 1.5 hours away. Excited to see what this thing can do on 4g
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The quick answer is yes. The Thunderbolt and Rezound can do voice/data over 3G.
The long answer is no. The Thunderbolt and Rezound technically do data over 3G and voice over 1X on a separate radio.
LTE is a data-only protocol for now and voice is done over either 1X (in HTC's case) or eHRPD (in all other LTE phone's case)
con247 said:
It is only on AT&T. They used to have the commercial about talking and surfing on iphone where the guy forgets his anniversary and makes a reservation while talking with his wife.
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Men.
My thunderbolt can use data and voice over 3g but my girlfriend LG revolution can not use data and voice over 3g only 4g.
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Just got 4g LTE in our area few days ago, and let me tell you you'll love it.
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Incorrect, I believe the motorola devices cannot. Anandtech's review on the thunderbolt goes over the MANY modems the thunderbolt has.
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They can't. My droid x couldn't do it over 3g. Only the thunderbolt and rezound can do it on Verizon.
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Ok, totally nervous and anxious noob here. I had a question about the capabilities of the modem in this phone. My coworker has a captivate, and he told me all about the stuff you do here, and how he upgraded his modem to 4g. Is the vzw variant capable of the same? I've been reading the threads for a few weeks now, trying to figure out what to get, and now I'm just confused with the whole process, but that's a topic for another day.
Thanks.
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Not. . . . . . . . . . . .
No.
The captivate can do HSPA which is all of the sudden be marketed as 4G (as HSPA+) but only up to the device limit of 7M.
That is one of ATT/TMO's ways of saying 4G.
VZN is using LTE which is different from their current CDMA#K which means phones can not take advantage of it.
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Yeah, no. The "4G" he is talking about is not really 4G. It's a fake 4G.
http://www.technobuffalo.com/comparisons/htc-inspire-4g-vs-htc-thunderbolt-4g-speed-test/
but wait......i thought if you put 4g icons in your theme....then it unlocked that super secret lte radio that came with the fascinate!?!?!
Thanks for the info.
Brownie points for Big Red...NOT.
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aaronDroid80 said:
Thanks for the info.
Brownie points for Big Red...NOT.
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So now you are discrediting VZW because they use a different technology than AT&T and bought a phone that is working as advertised?
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Thanks for the info.
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Its not really 4G, the phone works fine and as intended. If you want 4g, then go get a 4g phone from verizon(who has the best 4g network at the moment, forget ATT's crap)
Musicmaster said:
So now you are discrediting VZW because they use a different technology than AT&T and bought a phone that is working as advertised?
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Hahahah, this. +1
HSPA and LTE are different tech, just like CDMA#k and HSPA. HSPA has the same speed capability as LTE but the drasticly different delivery mechanism makes it a loser for these kind of tests.
LTE is the true future tech even though it doesn't meet 4G guidelines. Future HSPA evolutions are just going to be like new and improved satellite TDMA systems.... larger pipe for more terminals... but dont ldt ths customer know how many terminals there are.
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Musicmaster said:
So now you are discrediting VZW because they use a different technology than AT&T and bought a phone that is working as advertised?
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If I had my choice, I would've gone with AT&T for numerous reasons, but given my circumstance, VZW was my only option. Big Red has a track record of making things difficult for the end user (like upgrading phones). I love this phone, and the service is good, but it's a bit discouraging that I'll have to wait 2 years to get a faster phone when this one has capable hardware being held back by them.
Sorry for the rant. Basically, I'm anxiously awaiting the day when I can cut the bloat and let this thing fly. Keep up the awesome work, and I'll keep reading until I get all the pieces together.
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The captivate doesn't do 4g..the guy just has a theme that changed his icon to show 4g when he still has 3g. And neither phone has the hardware to run 4g.
At&t has **** for service...hence the REAL reason iPhone is with vzw now. I will never pay for at&t again.
This article mentions that data during phone calls will work on the EVO 3D, true or false?
http://www.mytechsecrets.com/htc-evo-3d-android-phone-–-coming-soon/
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Same way that the evo does data while on the phone. Only if you are on 4g or wifi
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Thanks for clearing that up
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aimbdd said:
Same way that the evo does data while on the phone. Only if you are on 4g or wifi
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Quote from the article---> "Will have simultaneous voice and data capabilities; while in 3G/4G or Wi-Fi coverage areas, the EVO 3D will allow web surfing while on the phone"
According to this quote the phone CAN do simultaneous voice and data on 3G. I have a buddy that claims his kyocera echo can do this as well on 3G. I'm hoping it can althought I didnt think it was possible for CDMA to do it on 3G.
The Thunder bolt does 3g/voice at the same time
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There may be hope for the E3D then
This is one of the reasons I'm excited about this phone. One of the articles I read a month or so ago had technical details on how it worked. It was some extension to CDMA or something along those lines. It's about time!
i wonder why a bigger deal isnt being made of this.
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i wonder why a bigger deal isnt being made of this.
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Because it was all speculation but they just sent it to the fcc so now its confirmed
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This phone doesn't have those capabilities. Thunderbolt's LTE MDM9600 have SVDO support, while the EVO's MSM8660 doesn't. 4G/Wi-Fi only.
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buddy that claims his kyocera echo can do this as well on 3G. .
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whoa, pinch me; someone actually bought an echo?
LOL
Thanks for the opinions. Im trying to decide on my purchase and don't want to be disappointed, never had a CDMA phone before.
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A.Priori said:
whoa, pinch me; someone actually bought an echo?
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That's the same thing I was wondering LOL!
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I would absolutely love to hear how many units of the echo have been sold. Especially considering that they wasted money and time having that stupid "Industry First" event with David Blane.
Stunts like that are the reason why my friends think Sprint is crap
I have seen a few posts that Sprint's network is technically capable, like Verizon, of simultaneous voice and data but that Sprint specifically does not (or hasn't yet) enabled this functionality.
That is pretty disappointing. Shame on you Sprint. You would think that every carrier would have the function since AT&T used to brag so heavily about how the iphone could do it. I also read that only maybe half of the new EVOs UI will make use of the 3D effect. We'll know soon enough
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DCLocal said:
I have seen a few posts that Sprint's network is technically capable, like Verizon, of simultaneous voice and data but that Sprint specifically does not (or hasn't yet) enabled this functionality.
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Not entirelly true there. They have some build out to do and more importantly our devices don't have the required chip to allow it.
see this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14300011&postcount=63
A.Priori said:
whoa, pinch me; someone actually bought an echo?
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yankele said:
That's the same thing I was wondering LOL!
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Yeah.....my buddy is a true phone addict like I have never seen before. He gets a new phone like once a month!! He has soo many phones on his hip(active phones) it looks like a batman utility belt...lol. And for the first time ever in his life he is sorry about getting a phone.....the kyocera phone. I think it really "hit" him when he saw how much radio shack would give him for it when he trades it in for the evo 3d. The phone is only a couple of months old......paid a couple hundred for it and the trade in value is like 75 bucks or something. A true phone addict....all his money goes to sneakers.....phones.....phone accessories....and food. And occasionally child support....lol.
http://www.phonescoop.com/news/item.php?n=8261
Sprint is primed for major network improvement it seems
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What happened to the 3vo being able to talk and surf at the same time as many reports had stated prior to the release of the 3vo? Is this something to be added later or a never gonna happen type of thing?
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It works just fine, but only if your data connection is either via wifi or 4G.
Yes I know that same as the EVO but i meant over 3g not 4g or WiFi
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Poseidon215 said:
Yes I know that same as the EVO but i meant over 3g not 4g or WiFi
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Sprint has to enable svdo on their network. The 3d and the EVO shift have the chip set. They are just not activated.
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I hope they it asap... It would be very handy and good marketing against verizon too.
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codee said:
I hope they it asap... It would be very handy and good marketing against verizon too.
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would be better marketing against at&t really, since they are the only one with bragging rights at the moment to be able to do this, not even verizon can at the moment.
Actually the Verizon Thunderbolt can do it currently. Its been something that has been making me think about jumping ship, though at those prices, I should buy a flip phone for when my Evo is online...
The thunderbolt can only do it on LTE and the phone has no toggle to turn LTE off unless its rooted
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kingakuma said:
The thunderbolt can only do it on LTE and the phone has no toggle to turn LTE off unless its rooted
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He's right fellas
Bussin Caps n 3D
ktrotter11 said:
He's right fellas
Bussin Caps n 3D
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No the Verizon TB can do it over cdma without being in LTE area. Not all VZ areas support it yet but the phone deff can do it.
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Sprint has to enable svdo on their network. The 3d and the EVO shift have the chip set. They are just not activated.
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Don't think so. the way sprint is doing their voice+data will require a certain chipset on the phones that supports SVDO, which last I checked is NOT in the EVO3D nor the shift. The MDM9600 is the only one ive seen and confirmed to have this built in.
Also a lil note for people that are interested This post lays out some things for the future in sprint and are pretty reliable sources for those that do not know them.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14300011&postcount=63
Well people, after reading this thread I just had to put in my 2 cents about it. I live in a 3G area of upstate New York with NO 4G around me and can talk and surf on my Thunderbolt. That was the only reason I dropped the call dropping iPhone with at&t and swithed. I drive a truck "18 wheeler" and everywhere I have gone in the New England area that doesn't have 4G I have been able to do this.
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sgt. slaughter said:
No the Verizon TB can do it over cdma without being in LTE area. Not all VZ areas support it yet but the phone deff can do it.
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He is right.
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He's right fellas
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No he's most definitely wrong. The Thunderbolt can do simultaneous voice and data on 3g in svdo enabled areas.
Talk and Surf on EVO and EVO 3D
The solution is not at all elegant and drain the battery pretty quickly.
What else is new here?
In any event, be it in 3G or 4G (irrelevant for 4G I guess):
1) activate the built-in hotspot (password protect it to prevent others taking
advantage of FREE Wifi draining your battery faster than Concord)
2) Activate the phone Wifi and connect to the newly created Wifi in Step 1
At this point, you should be able to talk and surf; an added bonus (already available thru the hotspot feature), is you're able to connect other devices to the Hotspot connection created in Step 1.
The new problem you will have now is to find yourself a lasting battery.
So, I know CDMA shouldn't support this.. but I have it. Huh?
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The Rezound and Tbolt support it
Yep rezound has svdo so it works
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Yes, kind of cool. I was using it the otherday while on speakerphone .
The 3G the thunderbolt and rezound use is eHRPD which is what allows it
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Amazing we lived without it so long eh? LOL
joshnichols189 said:
The 3G the thunderbolt and rezound use is eHRPD which is what allows it
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So does it only work on 3g or also on 4g? If you're in an area with good 4g would you have to go through settings while on phone to turn off LTE to then use the 3g?
Whether in 3g or 4g, the Rezound and Thunderbolt can do both voice and data at the same time. Other 4g devices must be connected to 4g to do it.
Can anybody confirm if wifi tether continues to push data when talking and in a 3g zone.
I was using Verizon's tethering the other day and pushed an email through while on the phone. Thats why I came looking for this thread. Holy crap this is the happiest day of my life!!!
So, yes, I can confirm that tethering continues in 3g while on the phone.
Why is this not listed as front page news? Or one of the phone's top benefits?
That explains why I was getting IM's in Facebook while I was on the phone and 4G is turned off. Hah.. Good phone. thanks all. Suck it iphone! lol
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Can anybody confirm if wifi tether continues to push data when talking and in a 3g zone.
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Just confirmed WiFi Tether (rooted) works while talking at the same time, in 3G.
Noticed last night that one of my game asset downloads made significant progress while I was on a long call. Wondered why that was. Glad to hear that's a feature we got with our new toys.
gotta love it!
i <3 Rezound
We have dual CDMA antennas, one is 1x and 3G the other is 3G and 4G LTE
Okay, so I just noticed that I can be on a call and I can still use data (3G). I gotta say I'm confused because this is the first phone that have been able to do this.
Does anybody else have a similar experience?
Well if you're in a 4G area, you should be able to do voice/data. Now if you have 3G it shuts off during a call, cause it's using that connection for the call.
ICS Rezound.
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Well if you're in a 4G area, you should be able to do voice/data. Now if you have 3G it shuts off during a call, cause it's using that connection for the call.
ICS Rezound.
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The Thunderbolt and Rezound can do both on 3G also. It's a unique feature to those phones.
Yeah our phone can use 4g for data and 3g for call's simultaneously.
or vice versa
Hell ya. I knew 4g would work when on voice call, but when I saw 3g working as well, damn near **** my pants. I thought only att could do that since it is a real talk text surf on one connection. One more reason to steer clear of att now.
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Doh! My post got devoured somehow.
I remember now that Anantech.com did a review of the Thunderbolt and explained how the basebands allowed for 3G and voice or 4G and voice simultaneously.
I wonder if the basebands changed from the Thunderbolt. Unfortunately, Anandtech didn't review the Rezound, they seem to have the most in-depth reviews.
But yeah, freakin' sweet! The AT&T One X does have me in awe of its display, but its certainly not enough to get me to jump to AT&T.
I gotta say I feel like the Rezound is sweetest phone on Verizon.
I never really needed to use the SVDO capabilities. Probably because I'm almost never on the phone lol... But still.
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SteveG12543 said:
I never really needed to use the SVDO capabilities. Probably because I'm almost never on the phone lol... But still.
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Same here but it's cool to have
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I love it!
If one of my very talkative friends calls while I'm playing a game I just keep on playing while I talk either on speaker or with my bluetooth.
This is the best feature of the phone. I loved it on my bolt/