Hi,
I'm going to buy Motorola device, but I cannot decide between Atrix and Razr.
Razr is more powerfull, have bigger display, is thinner, dustproof and there is promise for ICS. Atrix is less expensive, not so wide and there are lot of hacks for it.
My question is if there is so huge different in hw between this two devices and if there will be soon webtop hack, possibility to have full linux(ubuntu, debian) as webtop, external drive with ext, custom roms, etc. for Razr.
The RAZR will be supported from so many devs.
At least, it's supported by me and another user at the moment. I've moved from ATRIX to RAZR.
IMHO, RAZR is better, apart there's missing the fingerprint sensor that on ATRIX was an awesome trick to show.
I came from an ATRIX 4G. it is still a great device and there's nothing that could stop that beast but RAZR is definitly better in all aspects. if you dont care about the price gap, go for the RAZR.
Btw there's no phone on earth that could beat ATRIX when it comes to Price/Performance ratio atm. Is there ?
Also consider that it took a good amount of time for development to get rolling on the Atrix. If price isn't the biggest factor then go with the Razr.
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Thanks for all your answers.
I'm just worried mostly about the waiting for all the hacks for Razr that are already on Atrix. I just hope that it will be available for Razr in few weeks, not months.
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Hi razr guys!
I'm kinda confused right now because of the bootloader locked.
I'm asking myself if i should exchange my RAZR for a NEXUS
i watch few comparaison between both, and ok nexus have native ICS and will for sure upgraded first if a new android version is released.
Now the right question is, Does the locked bootloader of my RAZR is enough to change it?
If i take a deep breath and think, i found the RAZR way much sexy than NEXUS, performance are similar, camera is better, screen resolution is lower.
But hey, we already have ICS even with the locked bootloader, and 2 custom rom on Gingerbread.
And i heard many bug about strenght signal on the nexus.
That's why i'm confused and i'd like to have your opinion on this question.
I really hope motorola will unlock our bootloader, but if they dont is a good reason to throw my razr away?
Thanks!
If modding is more important to you and you are obsessed with an unlocked bootloader, then yes by all means you should "go"
If I could I would go. Motorola is not a company that I want to be associated with.
Amatuer flasher here. Considering coming to Razr Maxx by exchanging my Nexus. Battery life is bothering me. ICS not that different/impressive.
Seems like with a locked bootloader on the Razr, you can still root, flash, etc... What are you missing out on with a locked bootloader?
Thanks for indulging the noob questions...
rfeagan said:
Amatuer flasher here. Considering coming to Razr Maxx by exchanging my Nexus. Battery life is bothering me. ICS not that different/impressive.
Seems like with a locked bootloader on the Razr, you can still root, flash, etc... What are you missing out on with a locked bootloader?
Thanks for indulging the noob questions...
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The core thing isnt that the Phone, the Razr is bad without the locked BL. It wasnt the only argument for me to buy actually. But the way which is Motorola is going is the actually Problem which I see. For me Moto is dead and I will never buy any Product from them again ... Each other but none Motorola
I will wait 1 or 2 weeks.
Friend leave the waiting is the galaxy 3 thu esto i hope
sevenup30 said:
Hi razr guys!
I'm kinda confused right now because of the bootloader locked.
I'm asking myself if i should exchange my RAZR for a NEXUS
i watch few comparaison between both, and ok nexus have native ICS and will for sure upgraded first if a new android version is released.
Now the right question is, Does the locked bootloader of my RAZR is enough to change it?
If i take a deep breath and think, i found the RAZR way much sexy than NEXUS, performance are similar, camera is better, screen resolution is lower.
But hey, we already have ICS even with the locked bootloader, and 2 custom rom on Gingerbread.
And i heard many bug about strenght signal on the nexus.
That's why i'm confused and i'd like to have your opinion on this question.
I really hope motorola will unlock our bootloader, but if they dont is a good reason to throw my razr away?
Thanks!
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I agree with others on this thread.
If you are hardcore about thoroughly customized ROMs and such, then a google experience device is the way to go.
But if you like solid build quality, performance, and long-lasting battery life - then the Maxx is just the thing for you.
Out of all the Motorola products I've owned, I contemplated between the RAZR Maxx, HTC Rezound, and the Galaxy Nexus. Spent two minutes with the Nexus and dropped it like a hot potato. Eventually made up my mind to go with the Maxx, and I'm thoroughly satisfied.
Motorola's UI has improved, and performance on the Maxx is very good. You can still root, remove bloatware and such - but with the locked bootloader, you're stuck with the kernel provided by Moto's software. It cuts down on the extent of modifications that can be made, but in the end - its your choice.
If you decide to go with the Nexus, I would heavily suggest waiting a bit, because there is suppose to be an updated "2.0" sorta-speak coming out soon. The current Nexus has its perks, but the radios aren't up to quality of Motorola and HTC.
I had the galaxy nexus and now have the maxx. I dropped calls and battery life was horrid on the gnex. I love ICS but also love battery life. The only reason I rooted the nexus was to get better battery life and faster 3-4g handoff. These are things I don't have to worry about with the maxx. Plus, I don't have any battery saver things on my maxx and last two whole days with it. On LTE the entire time. It's amazing and will be even better with ICS.
I have currently a sgs2 i9100 with ics, a tmobile sgs2 and my razr and to tell you the truth i use my razr way more than the other two. Sure i would love ics in my razr, but i can wait it will come. Im running frazers 2.4 rom and its just speedy as hell so the bootloader thing is not getting to me as much as others and i am a hardcore copulsive flasher!! But theres no way i would give up my razr just so i can flash. I would rather pony up the extra cash and by the gnex too to cure my flashing habit, but by no means i would trade it. To me the razr is superior in reception, not to mention is the best freaking phone ive used for wifi tethering, i play ps3 without a single disconnect and i dont have the LTE version. Battery life is ok, on par with my other phones, screen is beautifull, no complaints here, spec wise the razr has an sd slot(cant live without it), camera is ok, not great but ok, cant complain about pictures taken, build quality on razr is top notch, the best ive owned, call quality and speaker sound quality are also top notch. For me the razr trully is probably the only real smartphone masterpiece that motorola has developed even if it has a locked bootloader.
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I have both Original Razr and GNex now, GNex is way better.
1. Regarding Radio, everyone says the Moto radio is better, and I have the doubts.
I have both Razr and GNex laying at the same position at same time and press speedtest at same time. Testing like this for 20 times.
GNex's 4G speed beat Razr every time of this 20 tests. even displaying 1 bar in 4G while Razr displaying 3 bars.
I feel that it is a "tricky" in measuring the bars that give you the false connectivity. I do had many times when Razr showed 3 bars but the data did not kick in at all.
2. Regarding Battery. Yes, GNex can never beat Razr Maxx in this category. But easily beating Razr. The trick? custom kernel. On Fransco Kernel 15.1 and the phone is awesome. It costs 1% over night of 7 hours!!! Repeat after me, 1% overnight of 7 hours. of course no airplane mode etc.
3. Regarding build quality.
The immediate impression was Razr is way too sexy. But hey, it is a dust sucker. I have seen so much dust in the top of the screen where Motorola logo is (ironically!) and at the side bezel of the screen.
Yes, the Kelvar back is awesome. No competition of that, especially the back of GNex is push-ed on style.
But GNex has a removable battery.
These two were equal in my house, BEFORE MOTOROLA's recent bomb news.
So Now I am leaning to GNex.
Had a razr, loved it. Then I exchanged it for the nexus. I had the nexus for three days. After three days I returned the nexus and got my razr back. For me the razr had more pros going for it than the nexus. I can honestly say the razr is the best device I have ever owned.
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I have owned the Nexus and the Rezound. Now I am using the Razr Maxx and I love it. It is much faster than either the Nexus or the Rezound! I have been a HTC Sense lover for quite some time now but with the Razr Maxx I feel satisfied for the first time. Hopefully it will save me money in the long run!
Reimerj
I love the razr. Its really fast and I love how thin it is. Even with the locked boot loader you can still have some great custom roms.
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thanks for your feedback, now i'm more confused than before lol
i'm a flashmaniacs, my past desire hd could confirm you ^^. but i made a mistake in the past, i had a transformer and asus locked the bootloader, so i sold it because i was angry and a month after, some devs managed to unlock it, and now i have an A100(it's a good tablet but not like the transformer and with a locked bootloader also -_-)
as jiwengang said, the nexus have removable battery and custom kernel which increase battery life and performance i guess.But it doesn't have micro sd.
I'd love to have razr MAXX too, but i just bought the razr and the maxx isn't available in france. I'll try to test the nexus and make my own opinion (i thought about the NOTE but the big thing afraid me ).
Well i don't know if you say that in english, but in french i would say:
I have my ass between two chairs!
Lots of good insights here. Thanks everyone.
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A lot of times if you are asking the question then you have your answer.
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Currently I'm up for a new phone on my contract and I'm considering the Droid Razr or Samsung GSII or Galaxy Nexus.
I've found a pretty decent contract for the Razr so I just want to see if anybody has any major gripes with the phone? All the reviews I have read/watched seem to give a pretty good outlook on the device.
Another question. Why are there so few custom ROMs for the phone? Is everyone waiting for an official release of ICS?
If you have anything to help make my choice, please add it below!
Almost took out the galaxy nexus on contract but what stopped me was its way to much like the Galaxy S2 which i own which is 2 plasticy and does not feel like a premium phone worth 400 to £500 , glad i got the Razr as it feels like its worth its value and will get better once the bootloader is unlocked and will be at its full potential once Icecream Sandwich is out
Dont buy anything from a company which lies to its customers !
I've been deciding on either the RAZR, the Nexus, or the Rezound. From what I've read, the Nexus can be buggy, and may have reboot and signal issues. The Rezound is a decent choice, but may not get as good a signal as the RAZR. The RAZR may not have great WIFI, but is good with 3/4G. Also, the RAZR's camera is not the best, especially in low light. My original Droid also had a weak camera. Personally, I'm going with the RAZR. I just wish the camera was better, but I need a good phone first.
Having a nexus....which I am trying to sell....I like the razr better. Huge difference is signal. Sitting in my houae on nexus was locked on -105. Razr is usually -86....at worst -95. Battery....on 3g is getting me easily through the day. Take it from someone whos had both.
Personally I would get the Maxx though if I were you.
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I have no complaints about my RAZR MAXX. Signal, speaker, build, battery, speed - all excellent. The development scene won't be as big as your other options, but there is a good amount of action at a competing forum (droidrzr). I find the RAZR to be so smooth that custom ROMing isn't all that necessary, though I do run a build stripped of VZW and Moto bloat (Eclipse).
There's a good number of new and cool phones coming out soon, I personally would wait just a bit. Unless there's something about the RAZR you gotta have. I know one could wait forever but you should be able to get a full 720p screen, bigger CPU, great camera etc without the plasticy feel rather soon.
I went from a droid x to a razr then ended up with a rezound. Just my opinion, the rezound won hands down.
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Had a Nexus for 3 days. Brought it back and got a razr. Brother had a Rezound, he also now owns a razr.
So you can guess what my opinion is.
Had to go to the Razr Maxx for the battery life and GPS. Was coming from a charge that sucked for both.
Razr MAxx ROCKS!!!
I just got rid of the galaxy nexus and got the razr i'm so glad i did i love the razr
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What was that phone where you had absolutely no problems with the phone?
Bootloader was unlocked, the phone was powerful, there was timely software updates, and the manufacturer communicated well with its customers.
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Galaxy S II. And, of course, the HD2, but that's a once in a lifetime thing.
Also the Nexus One.
If we're stretching beyond phones, the ASUS Transformer trumps them all.
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Yeah I've heard really good things about the SG2, unfortunately this is my first smart phone. It turned me into an android enthusiast right away!
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I've only owned 4 android phones: HTC Desire Z (built quality was ****, the keyboard was loose so I sold it right away and the screen was awful), ZTE Blade (best phone for it's price, not the best hardware but for the price 99€ it was a bargain, full of custom rom's etc) Samsung Galaxy S (probably the one I was most satisfied with but also here the built quality was awful and 512mb ram is simply not enough anymore, many custom roms and great community) and now the RAZR. If the RAZR get's unlocked bootloader, it will be a beast. I like everything about it, the thickness, camera, no problems with the screen etc. Only missing is the unlocked BL and more custom roms which I suppose will follow when we can run unsigned kernels.
So to summarize it: Both SGS and ZTE Blade was the phones I was most satisfied with, but the RAZR is the best phone I have owned both built quality wise and hardware wise. Just missing the ICS and unlocked BL.
The best experience I've had has been with the Xoom. Trouble free (never had so much as a reboot and I use it daily), first up for Android updates, rock solid built quality, unprecedented port selection, and tremendous battery life.
Runner up is my old HTC Incredible, which I kept for the entire contract duration before moving on. For its time, the hardware was great, the screen was crisp (I had the original AMOLED model), and the community was strong. It had some issues with very limited app space (and its error handling system for that was impossibly vague) and the battery life was crap, but I dealt with it.
The worst experiences I've had have been with Samsungs, particularly the Charge. It's the main reason I took a pass on the Galaxy Nexus despite the appearance of being an excellent phone on paper. YMMV.
My HTC evo was arguably the best phone I have owned as far as being 100% free. Great development. Couldn't brick the thing lol.
My razr. The locked bootloader isn't that important to me. Motos build quality can't be matched. I have had Motorola phones since the OG droid and have never had a serious issue with any of them.
To date my razr is the bedt phone ive ever had , no question.
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The best so far for me is Motorola with my razr maxx and the OG droid.
Next would be Acer with the acer aspire laptop i got from the a few years back and now the A500.
And lastly HTC. Not bad quality, the Sensation just feels not as ... solid.
Having had close to 30 phones in the past 11 years I can BEST MANLUFACTURER DOES NOT EXIST.
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My HTC evo was arguably the best phone I have owned as far as being 100% free. Great development. Couldn't brick the thing lol.
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Loved my evo. Might terminate my contract so I can go back to sprint for the next evo. Looks amazing!
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Having owned all the big name brands, HTC, Samsung, and Moto I have to say, regardless of the locked BL's that Moto has the best radios and build quality. Their phones also feel the most robust.
ZTE Blade was the phone with best price/performance ratio I ever owned. If it had a faster processor, I'd still be using it. Just an awesome phone.
Razr, Atrix 2, Photon or HTC Amaze. Which one would you choose?
EDIT: Now that GSM works on the Bionic I might as well add that to the list.
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Razr, Atrix 2, Photon or HTC Amaze. Which one would you choose?
EDIT: Now that GSM works on the Bionic I might as well add that to the list.
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Based on the specs, you might as well rule out the Atrix 2 and Bionic. They all have a slower 1Ghz processor, as opposed to the Razr's 1.2Ghz.
The HTC Amaze and Photon both have a 1.5Ghz processor.
Personally, if I could afford it, the new Razr Maxx HD would be my choice. Ultimately, it will come down to your personal preference and how much you can afford to spend. I opted for the Razr, which I picked up 10 days ago, because it was $100 and I'm plugged in most of the time. Also, the Razr works with FoxFi (wifi tethering) without having to root, which for me on an unlimited data plan, is my go-anywhere isp.
Depends on your Atrix 2 and Bionic actually...on ICS they both get bumped to 1.2Ghz in most cases.
I'm more about build quality and development prospects, hoping to get the full jar of Jelly Beans down the line, not just a taste . I considered Bionic cause I have the Droid 3 which appears to be the same except for the keyboard(and less RAM) and I love the build quality. I guess for dev prospect Razr and Amaze look best right now.
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Depends on your Atrix 2 and Bionic actually...on ICS they both get bumped to 1.2Ghz in most cases.
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Good to know.
Just saw a 1080p video captured by the RAZR, very clean quality like Droid 3 and unlike Amaze. Maybe the best choice sits right under my nose, just don't wanna make a hasty decision this time.
EDIT:Striking Photon 4G off my list. Everything points to the nVidia chips hampering development after the latest news from Motorola.
I would suggest looking at how badly you like custom kernels/roms. Kexec is slowly being stabilized but there are still issues to be worked out and personally after using a Nexus 7 with an unlocked bl, going back to the RAZR leaves a pretty sour taste in your mouth knowing that the device has so much potential yet we can't push it to its maximum limit.
If time is no issue, I would suggest waiting till December as there are rumours of a successor to the GNex and also we are seeing phones coming out with the S4 quads/Adreno so you may have better choices down the road. If you're still not happy, you can probably get better discounts/prices on the phones you currently have in mind.
Hello, my contract with verizion is comming up and I'm looking for an new device. I like the look of the razr and would like a maxx for it's huge battery, but I'm wondering how rootable and unlockable the bootloader would be with Verizion since Moto and verizion both seem to hate the modding community from what I've read. And does the software differ bewteen the razr and razr maxx?
Software is the same for both razr, and maxx. You can look at the development forum to see that there is a good amount of roms available, but the bootloader is not unlocked, so most roms have a few issues. The phone is about a year and a half old though, and in my opinion it is starting to show its age.
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Software is the same for both razr, and maxx. You can look at the development forum to see that there is a good amount of roms available, but the bootloader is not unlocked, so most roms have a few issues. The phone is about a year and a half old though, and in my opinion it is starting to show its age.
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Showing its age in terms of hardware but in terms of software I think there is some awesome developers out there who is doing a great job keeping this phone alive, also now we have kexec kernels which makes things much easier for devs
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Showing its age in terms of hardware but in terms of software I think there is some awesome developers out there who is doing a great job keeping this phone alive, also now we have kexec kernels which makes things much easier for devs
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Oh I completely agree, but I thought I'd give my opinion on age since the OP said that they were thinking of using their upgrade.
I like the RAZR, but its definitely out of date now. There are a few 4.2 roms about, but they are mainly ports of roms developed for newer devices. Still a good phone, but it would be a waste of an upgrade.
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If upgrading, look into Razr M. Its far better in terms of hardware, has a decent battery, better camera and BL can be unlocked.
Not much development yet but hopes are good.
I think I may get a Razer m. My best friend has one and I like a lot about it but if you guys are saying it's starting to show its age then nor mind lol. I have an Xperia play and the battery and performance couldn't be further away from what they should be. Thanks for all the info and opinions.
Development for the RAZR HD is exploding right now if I was to go for an upgrade it would be the RAZR HD or Max HD
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I have a question. I think I know the answer, but here goes anyhoo. I am pretty sure that the Droid Razr Maxx and the Droid Razr Maxx HD are different models. The razr maxx and the razr are the 912 and the razr maxx hd is the 926. Yes? Also, the razr maxx hd can have the bootloader unlocked, but the regular razr and razr maxx can't? I believe that is correct. A lot of people get confused when referring to the razr maxx/razr max hd.
Thanks in advance.
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You are absolutely right.
Both are different phones with different h/w and SOC. Maxx HD's BL can be unlocked.
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