Hello, my contract with verizion is comming up and I'm looking for an new device. I like the look of the razr and would like a maxx for it's huge battery, but I'm wondering how rootable and unlockable the bootloader would be with Verizion since Moto and verizion both seem to hate the modding community from what I've read. And does the software differ bewteen the razr and razr maxx?
Software is the same for both razr, and maxx. You can look at the development forum to see that there is a good amount of roms available, but the bootloader is not unlocked, so most roms have a few issues. The phone is about a year and a half old though, and in my opinion it is starting to show its age.
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Software is the same for both razr, and maxx. You can look at the development forum to see that there is a good amount of roms available, but the bootloader is not unlocked, so most roms have a few issues. The phone is about a year and a half old though, and in my opinion it is starting to show its age.
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Showing its age in terms of hardware but in terms of software I think there is some awesome developers out there who is doing a great job keeping this phone alive, also now we have kexec kernels which makes things much easier for devs
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Showing its age in terms of hardware but in terms of software I think there is some awesome developers out there who is doing a great job keeping this phone alive, also now we have kexec kernels which makes things much easier for devs
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Oh I completely agree, but I thought I'd give my opinion on age since the OP said that they were thinking of using their upgrade.
I like the RAZR, but its definitely out of date now. There are a few 4.2 roms about, but they are mainly ports of roms developed for newer devices. Still a good phone, but it would be a waste of an upgrade.
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If upgrading, look into Razr M. Its far better in terms of hardware, has a decent battery, better camera and BL can be unlocked.
Not much development yet but hopes are good.
I think I may get a Razer m. My best friend has one and I like a lot about it but if you guys are saying it's starting to show its age then nor mind lol. I have an Xperia play and the battery and performance couldn't be further away from what they should be. Thanks for all the info and opinions.
Development for the RAZR HD is exploding right now if I was to go for an upgrade it would be the RAZR HD or Max HD
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I have a question. I think I know the answer, but here goes anyhoo. I am pretty sure that the Droid Razr Maxx and the Droid Razr Maxx HD are different models. The razr maxx and the razr are the 912 and the razr maxx hd is the 926. Yes? Also, the razr maxx hd can have the bootloader unlocked, but the regular razr and razr maxx can't? I believe that is correct. A lot of people get confused when referring to the razr maxx/razr max hd.
Thanks in advance.
Rocky
You are absolutely right.
Both are different phones with different h/w and SOC. Maxx HD's BL can be unlocked.
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Hi,
I'm going to buy Motorola device, but I cannot decide between Atrix and Razr.
Razr is more powerfull, have bigger display, is thinner, dustproof and there is promise for ICS. Atrix is less expensive, not so wide and there are lot of hacks for it.
My question is if there is so huge different in hw between this two devices and if there will be soon webtop hack, possibility to have full linux(ubuntu, debian) as webtop, external drive with ext, custom roms, etc. for Razr.
The RAZR will be supported from so many devs.
At least, it's supported by me and another user at the moment. I've moved from ATRIX to RAZR.
IMHO, RAZR is better, apart there's missing the fingerprint sensor that on ATRIX was an awesome trick to show.
I came from an ATRIX 4G. it is still a great device and there's nothing that could stop that beast but RAZR is definitly better in all aspects. if you dont care about the price gap, go for the RAZR.
Btw there's no phone on earth that could beat ATRIX when it comes to Price/Performance ratio atm. Is there ?
Also consider that it took a good amount of time for development to get rolling on the Atrix. If price isn't the biggest factor then go with the Razr.
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Thanks for all your answers.
I'm just worried mostly about the waiting for all the hacks for Razr that are already on Atrix. I just hope that it will be available for Razr in few weeks, not months.
Hi razr guys!
I'm kinda confused right now because of the bootloader locked.
I'm asking myself if i should exchange my RAZR for a NEXUS
i watch few comparaison between both, and ok nexus have native ICS and will for sure upgraded first if a new android version is released.
Now the right question is, Does the locked bootloader of my RAZR is enough to change it?
If i take a deep breath and think, i found the RAZR way much sexy than NEXUS, performance are similar, camera is better, screen resolution is lower.
But hey, we already have ICS even with the locked bootloader, and 2 custom rom on Gingerbread.
And i heard many bug about strenght signal on the nexus.
That's why i'm confused and i'd like to have your opinion on this question.
I really hope motorola will unlock our bootloader, but if they dont is a good reason to throw my razr away?
Thanks!
If modding is more important to you and you are obsessed with an unlocked bootloader, then yes by all means you should "go"
If I could I would go. Motorola is not a company that I want to be associated with.
Amatuer flasher here. Considering coming to Razr Maxx by exchanging my Nexus. Battery life is bothering me. ICS not that different/impressive.
Seems like with a locked bootloader on the Razr, you can still root, flash, etc... What are you missing out on with a locked bootloader?
Thanks for indulging the noob questions...
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Amatuer flasher here. Considering coming to Razr Maxx by exchanging my Nexus. Battery life is bothering me. ICS not that different/impressive.
Seems like with a locked bootloader on the Razr, you can still root, flash, etc... What are you missing out on with a locked bootloader?
Thanks for indulging the noob questions...
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The core thing isnt that the Phone, the Razr is bad without the locked BL. It wasnt the only argument for me to buy actually. But the way which is Motorola is going is the actually Problem which I see. For me Moto is dead and I will never buy any Product from them again ... Each other but none Motorola
I will wait 1 or 2 weeks.
Friend leave the waiting is the galaxy 3 thu esto i hope
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Hi razr guys!
I'm kinda confused right now because of the bootloader locked.
I'm asking myself if i should exchange my RAZR for a NEXUS
i watch few comparaison between both, and ok nexus have native ICS and will for sure upgraded first if a new android version is released.
Now the right question is, Does the locked bootloader of my RAZR is enough to change it?
If i take a deep breath and think, i found the RAZR way much sexy than NEXUS, performance are similar, camera is better, screen resolution is lower.
But hey, we already have ICS even with the locked bootloader, and 2 custom rom on Gingerbread.
And i heard many bug about strenght signal on the nexus.
That's why i'm confused and i'd like to have your opinion on this question.
I really hope motorola will unlock our bootloader, but if they dont is a good reason to throw my razr away?
Thanks!
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I agree with others on this thread.
If you are hardcore about thoroughly customized ROMs and such, then a google experience device is the way to go.
But if you like solid build quality, performance, and long-lasting battery life - then the Maxx is just the thing for you.
Out of all the Motorola products I've owned, I contemplated between the RAZR Maxx, HTC Rezound, and the Galaxy Nexus. Spent two minutes with the Nexus and dropped it like a hot potato. Eventually made up my mind to go with the Maxx, and I'm thoroughly satisfied.
Motorola's UI has improved, and performance on the Maxx is very good. You can still root, remove bloatware and such - but with the locked bootloader, you're stuck with the kernel provided by Moto's software. It cuts down on the extent of modifications that can be made, but in the end - its your choice.
If you decide to go with the Nexus, I would heavily suggest waiting a bit, because there is suppose to be an updated "2.0" sorta-speak coming out soon. The current Nexus has its perks, but the radios aren't up to quality of Motorola and HTC.
I had the galaxy nexus and now have the maxx. I dropped calls and battery life was horrid on the gnex. I love ICS but also love battery life. The only reason I rooted the nexus was to get better battery life and faster 3-4g handoff. These are things I don't have to worry about with the maxx. Plus, I don't have any battery saver things on my maxx and last two whole days with it. On LTE the entire time. It's amazing and will be even better with ICS.
I have currently a sgs2 i9100 with ics, a tmobile sgs2 and my razr and to tell you the truth i use my razr way more than the other two. Sure i would love ics in my razr, but i can wait it will come. Im running frazers 2.4 rom and its just speedy as hell so the bootloader thing is not getting to me as much as others and i am a hardcore copulsive flasher!! But theres no way i would give up my razr just so i can flash. I would rather pony up the extra cash and by the gnex too to cure my flashing habit, but by no means i would trade it. To me the razr is superior in reception, not to mention is the best freaking phone ive used for wifi tethering, i play ps3 without a single disconnect and i dont have the LTE version. Battery life is ok, on par with my other phones, screen is beautifull, no complaints here, spec wise the razr has an sd slot(cant live without it), camera is ok, not great but ok, cant complain about pictures taken, build quality on razr is top notch, the best ive owned, call quality and speaker sound quality are also top notch. For me the razr trully is probably the only real smartphone masterpiece that motorola has developed even if it has a locked bootloader.
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I have both Original Razr and GNex now, GNex is way better.
1. Regarding Radio, everyone says the Moto radio is better, and I have the doubts.
I have both Razr and GNex laying at the same position at same time and press speedtest at same time. Testing like this for 20 times.
GNex's 4G speed beat Razr every time of this 20 tests. even displaying 1 bar in 4G while Razr displaying 3 bars.
I feel that it is a "tricky" in measuring the bars that give you the false connectivity. I do had many times when Razr showed 3 bars but the data did not kick in at all.
2. Regarding Battery. Yes, GNex can never beat Razr Maxx in this category. But easily beating Razr. The trick? custom kernel. On Fransco Kernel 15.1 and the phone is awesome. It costs 1% over night of 7 hours!!! Repeat after me, 1% overnight of 7 hours. of course no airplane mode etc.
3. Regarding build quality.
The immediate impression was Razr is way too sexy. But hey, it is a dust sucker. I have seen so much dust in the top of the screen where Motorola logo is (ironically!) and at the side bezel of the screen.
Yes, the Kelvar back is awesome. No competition of that, especially the back of GNex is push-ed on style.
But GNex has a removable battery.
These two were equal in my house, BEFORE MOTOROLA's recent bomb news.
So Now I am leaning to GNex.
Had a razr, loved it. Then I exchanged it for the nexus. I had the nexus for three days. After three days I returned the nexus and got my razr back. For me the razr had more pros going for it than the nexus. I can honestly say the razr is the best device I have ever owned.
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I have owned the Nexus and the Rezound. Now I am using the Razr Maxx and I love it. It is much faster than either the Nexus or the Rezound! I have been a HTC Sense lover for quite some time now but with the Razr Maxx I feel satisfied for the first time. Hopefully it will save me money in the long run!
Reimerj
I love the razr. Its really fast and I love how thin it is. Even with the locked boot loader you can still have some great custom roms.
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thanks for your feedback, now i'm more confused than before lol
i'm a flashmaniacs, my past desire hd could confirm you ^^. but i made a mistake in the past, i had a transformer and asus locked the bootloader, so i sold it because i was angry and a month after, some devs managed to unlock it, and now i have an A100(it's a good tablet but not like the transformer and with a locked bootloader also -_-)
as jiwengang said, the nexus have removable battery and custom kernel which increase battery life and performance i guess.But it doesn't have micro sd.
I'd love to have razr MAXX too, but i just bought the razr and the maxx isn't available in france. I'll try to test the nexus and make my own opinion (i thought about the NOTE but the big thing afraid me ).
Well i don't know if you say that in english, but in french i would say:
I have my ass between two chairs!
Lots of good insights here. Thanks everyone.
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A lot of times if you are asking the question then you have your answer.
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Currently I'm up for a new phone on my contract and I'm considering the Droid Razr or Samsung GSII or Galaxy Nexus.
I've found a pretty decent contract for the Razr so I just want to see if anybody has any major gripes with the phone? All the reviews I have read/watched seem to give a pretty good outlook on the device.
Another question. Why are there so few custom ROMs for the phone? Is everyone waiting for an official release of ICS?
If you have anything to help make my choice, please add it below!
Almost took out the galaxy nexus on contract but what stopped me was its way to much like the Galaxy S2 which i own which is 2 plasticy and does not feel like a premium phone worth 400 to £500 , glad i got the Razr as it feels like its worth its value and will get better once the bootloader is unlocked and will be at its full potential once Icecream Sandwich is out
Dont buy anything from a company which lies to its customers !
I've been deciding on either the RAZR, the Nexus, or the Rezound. From what I've read, the Nexus can be buggy, and may have reboot and signal issues. The Rezound is a decent choice, but may not get as good a signal as the RAZR. The RAZR may not have great WIFI, but is good with 3/4G. Also, the RAZR's camera is not the best, especially in low light. My original Droid also had a weak camera. Personally, I'm going with the RAZR. I just wish the camera was better, but I need a good phone first.
Having a nexus....which I am trying to sell....I like the razr better. Huge difference is signal. Sitting in my houae on nexus was locked on -105. Razr is usually -86....at worst -95. Battery....on 3g is getting me easily through the day. Take it from someone whos had both.
Personally I would get the Maxx though if I were you.
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I have no complaints about my RAZR MAXX. Signal, speaker, build, battery, speed - all excellent. The development scene won't be as big as your other options, but there is a good amount of action at a competing forum (droidrzr). I find the RAZR to be so smooth that custom ROMing isn't all that necessary, though I do run a build stripped of VZW and Moto bloat (Eclipse).
There's a good number of new and cool phones coming out soon, I personally would wait just a bit. Unless there's something about the RAZR you gotta have. I know one could wait forever but you should be able to get a full 720p screen, bigger CPU, great camera etc without the plasticy feel rather soon.
I went from a droid x to a razr then ended up with a rezound. Just my opinion, the rezound won hands down.
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Had a Nexus for 3 days. Brought it back and got a razr. Brother had a Rezound, he also now owns a razr.
So you can guess what my opinion is.
Had to go to the Razr Maxx for the battery life and GPS. Was coming from a charge that sucked for both.
Razr MAxx ROCKS!!!
I just got rid of the galaxy nexus and got the razr i'm so glad i did i love the razr
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Which ones better in your opinion? and what the battery life on the razr like?
Razr maxx > Gnex > Razr > SGS2
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Razr maxx > Gnex > Razr > SGS2
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LOL I wish i could get the razr maxx but its not an option with my carrier..
With those three phones I would choose the Gnex over the Razr because of the screensize and better support. I choose the Maxx because of the battery. The screen isn't as good but it is comparable in many ways and the support for the Razr is improving but will never be as good as the Gnex. I also had a Captivate for 1 1/2 years so I wanted to try something other than Samsung.
Surprisingly, neither the gnex nor the razr sell well in my store. (damn iphone).
Obviously for battery life, the MAXX pwns the rest, but I agree with the support base for the gnex and if you've ran ICS on the razr (even half-baked as it is right now) you know it was worth the wait.
galaxy nexus has a really bad battery..i have razr and in terms of speed the razr is same as gnex...only screen is better on galaxy nexus but razr has even better screen than samsung galaxy s2..!i had galaxy nexus and samsung galaxy s2 and now i am with motorola razr...for me the best and winner is razr,it has nice quality build,waterproof,slim and battery is really good,with normal use i get 2 days without charging the battery..google nexus has for me the worst battery ever,12 hours doing nothing and battery already dead and the most stupid thing is that it needed always 3.5 hours to fully charge same as samsung galaxy s2..of curse the most important for me was the camera...hmm yes galaxy s2 has better camera than razr BUT it always stutter omg same thing i faced on gnex and i said what the hell is wrong with samsung cameras?now with razr even camera is super for me with stabilization without any stuttering like samsungs i had...!
p.s
i am really a gadget geek...
i had 3 different samsung galaxy s2...1 used for a week in black color,gave it for iphone 4s which i hated it much already then again back to S2 in white color used it for 3 weeks and gave it for gnex which i used it a week and again back to S2..all had camera stuttering for me and bad battery so i decided to try Razr..and here i am..Rock you like a hurricane as you see i found happines
best voice quality both incoming and outgoing is RAZR, head and shoulders above. that's why i have one. i have to have professional conversations on my phone and cannot afford to not be understood. Samsung phones are for teenagers and people without real lives.
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Surprisingly, neither the gnex nor the razr sell well in my store. (damn iphone).
Obviously for battery life, the MAXX pwns the rest, but I agree with the support base for the gnex and if you've ran ICS on the razr (even half-baked as it is right now) you know it was worth the wait.
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So how good is ICS beta on Razr? I personally have not tried it.
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So how good is ICS beta on Razr? I personally have not tried it.
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It is good for the most part. Slightly laggy because hardware acceleration still isn't optimized, but it isn't terrible enough for me to complain. I read that FFC has been fixed, it just hasn't been baked into all ICS roms yet. I was on ICS with my Captivate since the first port in November and I just couldn't take being back on Gingerbread with this phone. It has been really good and it will get better because the support is really great.
The support for the RAZR/RAZR MAXX is more than what people think. Sadly the community is spread across multiple sites, but the RAZR has plenty of ROM's and flashables to optimize speed, looks, and functionality.
I see it the same
RAZR MAXX > gNEX > RAZR > SGS2
gNEX has it beat with custom kernels and open bootloader, and also the screen size. Honestly because those 2 factors, the MAXX has it beat on all other fronts.
Stronger radio, battery, stronger build (gorilla glass, water resistant), and of course battery life. Both phones have nearly identical CPU, GPU, and same RAM -- so performance wise they should be identical.
Anyway.. just my take on it
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It is good for the most part. Slightly laggy because hardware... I just couldn't take being back on Gingerbread with this phone. It has been really good and it will get better because the support is really great.
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Ya, I've been doing a lot of thinking about this qlitchy razr xt912. Just stepped into the pressing 6.11.748 update, still hoping for a smoother operation.
So my question is in part, what is all this hype about the ics? Less bloat? I'm considering doing myself a favor and freezing some of all this crap on my current os.
so what's ics really gonna do for any of us? Just more bloat that we'll have to freeze & remove to have an awesome phone? Sounds like a hassle, that I never woulda expected from Android ... windows, yes... but not Android.
The ics roms have zero bloat and it is much better than gingerbread. It is better in every aspect.
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My friends have all phones mentioned and I have the razr, and everytime I show my phone off to someone new they fall in love with it.
This phone has quality surrounding it. Sound Quality is exceptional on phone calls and music. The screen is bright, and you can get ICS for all the devices mentioned so really that point is mute.
I would get the razr maxx over all the rest for the great battery life.
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Razr, Atrix 2, Photon or HTC Amaze. Which one would you choose?
EDIT: Now that GSM works on the Bionic I might as well add that to the list.
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Razr, Atrix 2, Photon or HTC Amaze. Which one would you choose?
EDIT: Now that GSM works on the Bionic I might as well add that to the list.
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Based on the specs, you might as well rule out the Atrix 2 and Bionic. They all have a slower 1Ghz processor, as opposed to the Razr's 1.2Ghz.
The HTC Amaze and Photon both have a 1.5Ghz processor.
Personally, if I could afford it, the new Razr Maxx HD would be my choice. Ultimately, it will come down to your personal preference and how much you can afford to spend. I opted for the Razr, which I picked up 10 days ago, because it was $100 and I'm plugged in most of the time. Also, the Razr works with FoxFi (wifi tethering) without having to root, which for me on an unlimited data plan, is my go-anywhere isp.
Depends on your Atrix 2 and Bionic actually...on ICS they both get bumped to 1.2Ghz in most cases.
I'm more about build quality and development prospects, hoping to get the full jar of Jelly Beans down the line, not just a taste . I considered Bionic cause I have the Droid 3 which appears to be the same except for the keyboard(and less RAM) and I love the build quality. I guess for dev prospect Razr and Amaze look best right now.
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Depends on your Atrix 2 and Bionic actually...on ICS they both get bumped to 1.2Ghz in most cases.
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Good to know.
Just saw a 1080p video captured by the RAZR, very clean quality like Droid 3 and unlike Amaze. Maybe the best choice sits right under my nose, just don't wanna make a hasty decision this time.
EDIT:Striking Photon 4G off my list. Everything points to the nVidia chips hampering development after the latest news from Motorola.
I would suggest looking at how badly you like custom kernels/roms. Kexec is slowly being stabilized but there are still issues to be worked out and personally after using a Nexus 7 with an unlocked bl, going back to the RAZR leaves a pretty sour taste in your mouth knowing that the device has so much potential yet we can't push it to its maximum limit.
If time is no issue, I would suggest waiting till December as there are rumours of a successor to the GNex and also we are seeing phones coming out with the S4 quads/Adreno so you may have better choices down the road. If you're still not happy, you can probably get better discounts/prices on the phones you currently have in mind.