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I'm just wondering why the development community for the Photon has been so slow. I am not complaining, and am extremely greatful for everyone's work on the projects that keep us modders happy. I'm simply curioius as to whether or not there's a specific issue (an unreleased SDK, just a difficult phone to develop for, etc) as there have been several phones that have come out since the MoPho and already have more roms/kernals/etc. Again, this is simply out of curiosity. Thank you for any answers that you guys can provide.
Ive asked the same thing for a long time i still dont get it
It's the working mans phone, plus its not plagued with issues
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I'm just glad we have come this far...
Slow?.... we have miui and cm7 with jokers skinny rom and even sockmonkey....over 10+ oc/uv gpu enhanced kernels up to 1.5giggityhurtz ....
Only other thing I can see being modded is our pos pentile screen.....
Every optimized or enhanced android setting I come across that seem possible to port to our kernels/roms I send it jokers way cause he knows best if its worth a look or not.
So any suggestions that adds to our current awsomeness..by all means say so....
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Custodian said:
Slow?.... we have miui and cm7 with jokers skinny rom and even sockmonkey....over 10+ oc/uv gpu enhanced kernels up to 1.5giggityhurtz ....
Only other thing I can see being modded is our pos pentile screen.....
Every optimized or enhanced android setting I come across that seem possible to port to our kernels/roms I send it jokers way cause he knows best if its worth a look or not.
So any suggestions that adds to our current awsomeness..by all means say so....
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Are those not still in Alpha phase though? Maybe I'm just nitpicking, but I was talking about full releases. However, I could be just not looking hard enough or am looking over the obvious, which with me, is entirely possible.
Well considering everything software wise should be considered beta(perfect software will never happen). Im pretty sure my stuff is safe. When i release a kernel, i upload from that kernel. I cant guarantee no bugs because not even stock isnt without bugs. I use alpha to scare away people that will brand all my stuff crap. Once a kernel goes stable its the same kernel just tested by more than just me.
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Are those not still in Alpha phase though? Maybe I'm just nitpicking, but I was talking about full releases. However, I could be just not looking hard enough or am looking over the obvious, which with me, is entirely possible.
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Are those not still in Alpha phase though? Maybe I'm just nitpicking, but I was talking about full releases. However, I could be just not looking hard enough or am looking over the obvious, which with me, is entirely possible.
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Although listed as alpha, they work very well. Give them a try.
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I'm using MIUI alpha and is pretty solid. Has its share of bugs but very promising.
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I wish I knew the answer to this as well. In fact, I asked the exact same question about a month ago and all I was told was that it's due to poor marketing by Sprint?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1345073
All I ever hear from everyone is how much of a kickass phone this is, which I totally agree with. You would think that for a phone with such a solid platform to work off of, the development would be insane. Unfortunately, it's just the opposite.
i have to agree with jay
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i have to agree with jay
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Have you done any development for it? No? That's why it's slow.
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Go home troll
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i have to agree with jay
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Instead of asking why there isn't enough development, why not state specifics on what you are looking for that is missing?
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honestly no offence to you but this can be pretty insulting to our developers who are highly skilled and working all their free time into getting this going, talk to Motorola for locking the bootloader and not releasing they're kernel if u want to make things faster and easier for the developers.
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Not too many developers have this device. If this device was on Verizon, we would have development up our a**es, but Sprint is not too popular of a service provider for Android developers, other than the Samsung Galaxy Epic Touch...
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Not too many developers have this device. If this device was on Verizon, we would have development up our a**es, but Sprint is not too popular of a service provider for Android developers, other than the Samsung Galaxy Epic Touch...
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I don't think this is entirely true. I came from the Evo 4G, and development/roms were plentiful from the dev community for that phone.
While it is a bit disconcerting to see the lack of development for my new Photon, it is important to remember that developers do this on their own time. However, as others have said, this device is far and above, even with Motoblur (which is awful, btw), what most other devices have to offer. There are, obviously, some other highly spec'd Sprint phones, like the SGSII, Evo3d, and the Nexus S 4G. And with the now impending release of the new Nexus on Sprint, I would assume development for the MoPho will likely drop altogether.
All that said, I do wish I had a stable AOSP ROM to put on this phone, with a nice guide on the most up-to-date rooting method(s). I only got this phone yesterday, so it'll be a few hours of fishing through hundreds of pages of forums before I'm ready to start rooting (I'm on 2.3.4)...my concern is what to put on my phone AFTER I'm rooted. :-(
Anyways -- thanks to all the devs that have put something together for us. Joker, it seems that your stuff is at the forefront, while some people are apparently still using the CM7 build from Cybik. Maybe I'll try it all!
Just to give a little perspective regarding software, when the company I work for goes to update an existing device with new code it takes a fair amount of full time software developers and testers (at least 3 or 4 of each) and a couple of months to get something out in a fairly stable state when they are familiar with the code that are updating.
What the developers here are doing is makes updates to code they did not create or develop and lord knows if there is one thing developers hate to do is comment code. So it makes it even more difficult for anyone to first understand what the code is doing in order to make that changes let alone someone who has a separate full time job.
I know your not complaining about the slowness, only asking why so I thought I would give me 2 cents.
Yeah jokers cm9 is running great! You should try it out. The only reason not to use it is the camera doesn't work so if that is important to you just wait. I barely use the camera so doesn't bother me.
Anyone know if there is a place to check for cyanogenmod updates? I know no deadlines, but gingerbread is so rough on a tablet.
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I am also interested since I have seen working ports already for my electrify and some progress for the nook color
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look at dalingrin's twitter for updates.
If you're wondering about ICS on the touchpad...look at dalingrin's twitter posts.
If you're looking for CM9, all i know is they've released a pre-alpha version of the launcher from CM9 for Devices with ICS....how far that puts them down the line to finishing it? I do not know but i'm waiting too (impatiently)
Here is the official source of CM news:
http://www.cyanogenmod.com/
I would imagine any general news on CM9 will be all over once its out. I saw the news on the launcher in at least 3 different sites within hours of the announcement.
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Anyone know if there is a place to check for cyanogenmod updates? I know no deadlines, but gingerbread is so rough on a tablet.
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The most obvious place would be:
http://www.cyanogenmod.com/:rolleyes:
EDIT: I was reheating dinner, and someone just posted the same while my food was being warmed. Sry for the double post
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Anyone know if there is a place to check for cyanogenmod updates? I know no deadlines, but gingerbread is so rough on a tablet.
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I like how that was worded, it is truly rough. Phone versions of android do work on tablets but its clearly wrong.
The Jack of Clubs said:
I like how that was worded, it is truly rough. Phone versions of android do work on tablets but its clearly wrong.
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Agreed Leo and Scott are doing a great job at developing cm7/MIUI to work on a tablet as best it can.. But it is almost a lost cause since ics is already on a lot of devices....
I'm sure modifying a kanged ROM is a lot easier than making a port/SDK ROM as a lot of the drivers have to be made from scratch... I've given up on android on the TP till ICS. When that happens ill donate a handsome reward to the team that does it.. till then... WebOS will have to do... As I only use it for media/web I'm good for now... I have a EVO 3d for apps and such that android excels in...
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@dalingrin I know you don't give ETAs on anything, but is the ICS build anywhere close to GB Alpha 1? Thanks.
@dalingrin:
@SyncV2 Primary issues are GPU rendering under some circumstances and video playback. Hope to finally get back to working on it tonight.
I'm so excited for CM9 that I actually just spent a half hour typing different combinations of 9.0.0-RC0 shooter kang into Google hoping to find some sort of alpha zip or something to no avail. Lol.
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I have been running one of the Evervolv pre-Alphas for about a week now - All 3 of the ICS builds in the CDMA dev section are usable, you just have to figure out which features you can and can't live without. I love preludedrew's Alpha4, the HW accel makes it so snappy. Honestly I don't miss CM too much (but I will definitely try them out whenever there is a release). Try out one of the other releases - having ICS is sooooo worth it!
I like Joelz port.
Joel Z Here too.
Not asking for eta but is there any info on toast and cm9?
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I have tried a few of the alphas available, but 4G is a deal breaker. I use 4G daily and will have to stick with senseless for now.
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Not asking for eta but is there any info on toast and cm9?
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Nope. We never got a real cm7 build. My advice is get comfortable with another rom cause its a ways off
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We never got cm7 because ics was about to drop kmbos already said he has things working just wondering
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I hope they consider making ICS for us in the beginning because of the power our phone has. We all know our phone is a brute under the cover!
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I just wish the CM team would pop their heads out every once in a while to let us know that the evo3d is still under development. I'm sure it is, just worries me sometimes. Nobody has really released a stable AOSP rom (or even beta really) yet and the phone has been out for 6+ months.
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I just wish the CM team would pop their heads out every once in a while to let us know that the evo3d is still under development. I'm sure it is, just worries me sometimes. Nobody has really released a stable AOSP rom (or even beta really) yet and the phone has been out for 6+ months.
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I agree although this phone is tough for a few different reasons.
1. There are two completely seperate versions GSM vs. CDMA and thats fragmenting the devs.
2. 3D is tough and a first for many
3. GSM kernerl source was f'ed for a long time so that threw development time in the trash
4. The upcoming ICS release has somewhat slowed development because some are just waiting to see what happens with an update. I wouldnt want weeks or months of my hardwork go to waste overnight because of an update to a whole new build by HTC.
With that said i think once ICS does drop it could provide many answers about some of the "under the hood" workings of this device, and development will pick up. As someone said this phone is a real beast under the cover.
None of this is to say that the devs currently working arent doing a great job. some of the stuff i have seen is great and there is a lot being done to get AOSP roms going on this phone. I have seen Development pick up greatly over the last few months. So i look forward to whats in store.
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We never got cm7 because ics was about to drop kmbos already said he has things working just wondering
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Never getting cm7 because of ICS is just speculation on your part. Regardless, we never got it.
We aren't even officially supported by CM, nobody knows what exactly is going to happen. That's why people should get comfortable with other roms...I can only imagine what this place is gonna look like once cm9 nightlies drop and our phone isn't on the list.
I have no doubt that CM will eventually make it's way to the evo 3d (I do have doubts about the 3d part ever working tho) it's just gonna take a little time. It will be worth it once everything gets rolling.
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Never getting cm7 because of ICS is just speculation on your part. Regardless, we never got it.
We aren't even officially supported by CM, nobody knows what exactly is going to happen. That's why people should get comfortable with other roms...I can only imagine what this place is gonna look like once cm9 nightlies drop and our phone isn't on the list.
I have no doubt that CM will eventually make it's way to the evo 3d (I do have doubts about the 3d part ever working tho) it's just gonna take a little time. It will be worth it once everything gets rolling.
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i just wanted to point out that according to the cyanogenmod website we are officially supported
http://www.cyanogenmod.com/devices/htc-evo-3d
we cant say for sure that the reason cm7 support was dropped was because of ics but it is a pretty good assumption thats the case. im sure once cm9 nightlies drop all our fears will be lifted lol. at least thats what i think but with how quiet the cyanogen team is cant help but begin to doubt them haha at least we have some great alphas to play with for now!
http://r.cyanogenmod.com
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i'd say we're in the clear on this one.
So I posted this on the AOKP forums and was told someone would need to port and maintain the ROM. If so then we get an AOKP version...so any of our talented Devs wanna give it a shot? I would but I'm not a Dev/Coder so I wouldnt get far lol...I'm sure I'm not the only one that would love AOKP, I know CM9 is being built...but its far from finished if you've tried it then you know what I mean...So how about it Devs?
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So I posted this on the AOKP forums and was told someone would need to port and maintain the ROM. If so then we get an AOKP version...so any of our talented Devs wanna give it a shot? I would but I'm not a Dev/Coder so I wouldnt get far lol...I'm sure I'm not the only one that would love AOKP, I know CM9 is being built...but its far from finished if you've tried it then you know what I mean...So how about it Devs?
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Not a dev either, but have to second this. AOKP is a very fine ROM and would be a great addition to the TFP.
when CM is here I believe AOKP is very possible, if it is wanted I'm sure someone will port it;-)
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Someone want to enlighten the lazy as to what the AOKP ROM looks like? Maybe a link?
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Someone want to enlighten the lazy as to what the AOKP ROM looks like? Maybe a link?
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Here is a Link but no idea what it offers..
AOKP ROM is amazing.
I had a Droid Incredible before and was a Avid CM7 user. Never liked anything but CM7...
Then I got the GNex and since CM9 isn't really out yet, I had to settle, or so I thought.
AOKP has more features than you could ever imagine. Roman and the other devs do a great job of adding features. They also are active in the forums so if you have a feature request, they normally will add it if possible.
That said, I am not sure I will switch to CM9 when it is officially released for the GNex.
It is based off of the CM9 source, but he modifies it like crazy. Very stable on the GNex.
Yeah, I'm waiting with baited breath for AOKP for my prime. It was ported for my OG EVO & was the only alpha build i didn't ditch within a day in the whole time i've owned the phone. Roman is really on the cutting edge of truly original & helpful tweaks. Shoot, I was only savvy enough to be able to use maybe 2/3 of what he had in there. A power user's wet dream. Plus pink unicorns dripping with butter? C'mon! (You'll just have to check it out if this doesn't make sense)
Giefmeaokp! Aokp would be sweet. I'm refreshing the dev forum every 5 secs waiting for custom roms n kernels to pop up!
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when CM is here I believe AOKP is very possible, if it is wanted I'm sure someone will port it;-)
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Dont think we need CM9 to be finished before AOKP...its not based of CM9 rather the AOSP builds from google. Cmon Devs Please =)
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AOKP ROM is amazing.
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It is based off of the CM9 source, but he modifies it like crazy. Very stable on the GNex.
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Just for the record, AOKP is NOT based off the CM9 source. Both are based off the AOSP main source tree. Certain features might be incorporated from one to the other, but that is simply the beauty and benefit of open source.
Roman is definitely following his own vision with AOKP and the results are impressive.
So word is if someone is willing to "maintain" AOKP on the TP it is likely we can get it ported.
I have no idea what that means, but I think it means this:
-Maintaining Thread
-Building and testing new builds
-Bug Fixes
I have little to no idea how to do this, so if anyone is capable then we might be able to get AOKP.
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GatorsUF said:
So word is if someone is willing to "maintain" AOKP on the TP it is likely we can get it ported.
I have no idea what that means, but I think it means this:
-Maintaining Thread
-Building and testing new builds
-Bug Fixes
I have little to no idea how to do this, so if anyone is capable then we might be able to get AOKP.
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I am going to start working on this once I unlock my bootloader, OR f I can get some very dedicated testers I can start right now
I'd be interested in this. More features/tweaks is the kinda stuff I like
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And they will continue to get greater
Thanks.
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Read the threads... If anyone tried them... They probably commented in the thread. Backup and try yourself. Best way to see if a ROM is best for you. These types of threads are frowned upon.
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Which CM10 build specifically are you on?
I'm quite discouraged. Finally got around to rooting my device, and a pile of the ROMs look like they're not being updated anymore. A lot of the "this is a master thread for XXX" threads haven't been updated in months either. The "ROM Bible" has old and outdated ROMs. The AMAZing Wiki doesn't have a ROM update in 4 months. Revolution HD's download links have been messed up for the past 3 days, and the latest ROM update is 6 months old. EnergyROM last update was 5 months ago, and the author has stated that he's out of doing ROMs. CM doesn't have a stable release yet. I guess you're just using the nightlies?
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Patience. There are actually tons of things going on behind the scenes.
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Here you go:
http://goo.im/devs/Sportsstar89/Ruby/CM10
Actually I don't think this thread is inappropriate at all.
If there was a lot of recent activity, or another recently updated thread then that would be one thing. But all I've seen are old and outdated threads. The "bible" is 4 months out of date, and missing 3/4 of the ROMs out there. Even the "All you need thread (updated every 1-3 days)" hasn't been updated in 8 months.
There is no current thread that I can find listing updated and recent ROM reviews.
EDIT: Please don't misunderstand, I'm not being impatient or trying to be rude, merely mentioning that a thread highlighting current ROMs and information as of Jan/2013 may not be a bad thing since most other sources seem to be dry.
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Which CM10 build specifically are you on?
I'm quite discouraged. Finally got around to rooting my device, and a pile of the ROMs look like they're not being updated anymore. A lot of the "this is a master thread for XXX" threads haven't been updated in months either. The "ROM Bible" has old and outdated ROMs. The AMAZing Wiki doesn't have a ROM update in 4 months. Revolution HD's download links have been messed up for the past 3 days, and the latest ROM update is 6 months old. EnergyROM last update was 5 months ago, and the author has stated that he's out of doing ROMs. CM doesn't have a stable release yet. I guess you're just using the nightlies?
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It does seem that way. However, CM10 nightly has been totally it awesome. Once it's stable enough I believe we will get paranoidandroid, AOKP MIUI etc. Most of the other ROMs are Sense-based. It may seem like development for Ruby has been left for dead, but trust me the ROMs coming out will totally kickass.
I just tried 10.1 and it seems pretty neat, but WiFi and Camera both seem to be missing. Honestly I'm more concerned about having something stable and fully featured than latest. Is it better to stick with 10.0 nightly then?
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I just tried 10.1 and it seems pretty neat, but WiFi and Camera both seem to be missing. Honestly I'm more concerned about having something stable and fully featured than latest. Is it better to stick with 10.0 nightly then?
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definitely 10 nightly is more than stable for daily use.
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Cm10 is pretty stable just some minor audio issues and effed up BT call audio
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Re: Amaze ROM's are all great
Hmm, not really sure what this thread is about since OP was edited, so I'm gonna jack it with something more important everyone needs to go and hit Justin Lamantia's thanks button, because of him we will soon have Virtuous developing for us :thumbup:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37299575
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Yeah this thread could prolly be closed
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Closing the thread is fine with me. I tried to open discussion about all the new ROMs for the amaze but was told that kind of thread is frowned upon. No big deal.
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Closing the thread is fine with me. I tried to open discussion about all the new ROMs for the amaze but was told that kind of thread is frowned upon. No big deal.
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Lol ok
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Hmm, not really sure what this thread is about since OP was edited, so I'm gonna jack it with something more important everyone needs to go and hit Justin Lamantia's thanks button, because of him we will soon have Virtuous developing for us :thumbup:
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Who are Virtuous? And what do they do?
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Who are Virtuous? And what do they do?
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Lol is this ur first smartphone?
Look around XDA... They are all over. They do good work and would be a nice addition to go along with what everyone else has already given. They do kernels and ROMs. i used some of their work on the Mt4g
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Who are Virtuous? And what do they do?
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Oppzzz.Don't you know, they build solid roms like you do!...
GalaxyS3Guy said:
Lol is this ur first smartphone?
Look around XDA... They are all over. They do good work and would be a nice addition to go along with what everyone else has already given. They do kernels and ROMs. i used some of their work on the Mt4g
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No i had the HD2 before lol that's where I learned all about android. I've never heard of them before but i'm sure they'll be solid
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No i had the HD2 before lol that's where I learned all about android. I've never heard of them before but i'm sure they'll be solid
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Virtuousrom.com .... Heard of rmk, or mdj
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