Error: Firmware Upgrade encountered an issue... - Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I've searched google and XDA for a solution to this but so far can't find one.
I flashed the speed mod kernal and ever since i just get "Firmware Upgrade encountered an issue. Please select recovery mode in Kies & try again" when in upload mode.
When i reboot the phone i just get the samsung screen with the exclaimatino mark.
I tried flashing the stock rom again and get a fail (see attached)
Is this bricked now?

Put phone in download mode and flash a ROM using ODIN
Official ROMS http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278
Carrier Branded ROMS http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1113928

i've tried flashing a stock rom but still getting Fail as per 1st post.
any other ideas?
Thansk

Is it even i9100 or other variants of galaxy s2 like i9100G or so..
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Its defo GT-I9100
Just tried flashing Lightning 6.1 and getting fail on that too

did you try KIES Recovery?

Pull out your battery on your phone, . Re-install usb-drivers in Kies, reboot your computer.
Close everything related to Kies, also in toolbar trayagent and kies pdlr (right-click on windows toolbar). Put phone in downloadmode and try to reflash firmware with Odin.
Good luck

I've tried it in kies and my phone cannot be found. Just says connecting then no device found.

mwatson said:
I've tried it in kies and my phone cannot be found. Just says connecting then no device found.
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Reinstall your usb-drivers with Kies

gee2012 said:
Reinstall your usb-drivers with Kies
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How do I do that? Can I just re install kies?

mwatson said:
How do I do that? Can I just re install kies?
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No, connect your phone to kies. In the topbar on the right next to help click and you`ll see something like usb drivers or connection problem, click on that and you can reinstall your drivers

gee2012 said:
Pull out your battery on your phone, . Re-install usb-drivers in Kies, reboot your computer.
Close everything related to Kies, also in toolbar trayagent and kies pdlr (right-click on windows toolbar). Put phone in downloadmode and try to reflash firmware with Odin.
Good luck
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ok..
Battery out of phone
Re-installed Kies driver
Rebooted PC
In task manager end process all thing kies
Tried to flash in odin and failed again..
My sim is now is my old Orange san francisco
It can enter download mode ok.. so must not be totally bricked?
Thanks for your help so far guys.. much appreaciated

Is your phone recognized in Odin?
Does IDCOM light up yellow and does it say added in MESSAGE below in the left corner?

gee2012 said:
Is your phone recognized in Odin?
Does IDCOM light up yellow and does it say added in MESSAGE below in the left corner?
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It is added in odin.. see attached picture.
Thanks

Maybe a bad flash, dowload the rom again and try it again. The rest seems fine!

Re-extract the .tar from the .zip and try again. I ran into the same issue once; prior to re-downloading the firmware again I re-extracted the .tar, and all was golden. Good luck.

I re-downloaded the rom.
Stiil fail...
I can flash the kernal ok, but thats about it. Seems to be going wrong at the NAND write..
Uh oh...is this now an expensive piece of plastic?

Sorry mate, i don`t know what how to help you anymore. I suggest you go to a service center and ask for a software flash. Covered under warranty.
Good luck

gee2012 said:
Sorry mate, i don`t know what how to help you anymore. I suggest you go to a service center and ask for a software flash. Covered under warranty.
Good luck
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I guess they won't do it under warranty s its got a flash count of 5 now?
Thanks for your help though

Buy a jig, that resets the counter

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SGS2 stuck in orange triangle

Help!! My SGS2 is stuck on a screen with an orange triangle and excmamation mark between a cellphone and computer after a ROM flash attempt!
I can go to Downloading mode and Odin can detect my smartphone but i don't know what else to do...
Flash a full (different to whatever you were trying) ROM, problem solved.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA App
yep, that's just a soft brick.
since you can access DL mode, just reflash with odin and normally problem solved
Haaa, thx all i fixed it! ^^
It took me 5 hours to find out what i had to do and find the stock Firmware tho...
But all fine now
Hello,
I've got the same problem but it seems I can't go into download mode. What am I doing wrong? What else can I try?
My SGS2 is not rooted and was on Android 2.3.3. Kies told me there was an update available to android 2.3.4 so I went for it.
But I'm really disappointed, now my phone is completety stuck on this screen with the phone...orange triangle with exclamation mark (warning)...PC.
EDIT : Samsung Kies proposes to do an emergency recovery, but in the end it also fails.
Fortunately, I took a screenshot before upgrading. See attachment.
Please help me.
kind regards,
Andrew
andrewvbv said:
Hello,
I've got the same problem but it seems I can't go into download mode. What am I doing wrong? What else can I try?
My SGS2 is not rooted and was on Android 2.3.3. Kies told me there was an update available to android 2.3.4 so I went for it.
But I'm really disappointed, now my phone is completety stuck on this screen with the phone...orange triangle with exclamation mark (warning)...PC.
EDIT : Samsung Kies proposes to do an emergency recovery, but in the end it also fails.
Fortunately, I took a screenshot before upgrading. See attachment.
Please help me.
kind regards,
Andrew
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If your phone is not rooted, you still have your warranty, bring it back to the shop and ask for a new one
I bought it an amazon. But I'd prefer to have a solution right now instead of having to complain.
I continued my quest on the net... Apparently, a usb jig might take me out of this screen and back to the download mode. Can somebody confirm this?
andrewvbv said:
I bought it an amazon. But I'd prefer to have a solution right now instead of having to complain.
I continued my quest on the net... Apparently, a usb jig might take me out of this screen and back to the download mode. Can somebody confirm this?
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One minus Did you follow the Kies recovery instructions .
One turn off and remove battery for a short period .
Two turn on
Three try recovery mode
Four try download mode ..
Five yes USB jig may enable you to get to download mode and from that you can flash a stock Samsung rom .
Six service centre
jje
Thanks JJEgan. I'll try once more and let you know. Assuming that I am able to get in download mode, why should I use a stock kernel and not the normal firmware I had before? Sorry about my question, but this is all new for me.
A USB Jig should be standard equipment for anybody who flashes their Galaxy phone, IMO.
andrewvbv said:
Thanks JJEgan. I'll try once more and let you know. Assuming that I am able to get in download mode, why should I use a stock kernel and not the normal firmware I had before? Sorry about my question, but this is all new for me.
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Download Odin, download stock ROM, use Windows Task Manager to kill any Kies-related processes. Then turn off the phone, turn it back on in download mode and flash using Odin. Do not tick repartition and do not use the PIT file if the stock ROM comes with one.
Hi,
Thanks to this forum I managed to bring my SGS2 alive again step by step after that Kies broke it during the android upgrade from 2.3.3 to 2.3.4... Moreover, I am in the official 2.3.4 version now without using Kies!! ;-) Here's my story:
In the end, I was able leave the screen with the "phone..orange warning triangle..computer". and I was able to go in download mode without a usb jig. You have to press the 3 keys (volume down, home, and power on) quite a few seconds without releasing them. And then the download warning menu appears, press volume up to confirm that you want go go in download mode. And I was in "download mode'. Anyway, I will buy a jig ;-)
I tried once more the emergency recovery with samsung Kies without success. Failed.
Then with Odin I had problem. It was stuck at step "setup connection". Kies was not running and was not visible in the system tray. Though in the task manager, I still had 2 Kies* processes. Kiestrayagent.exe and another one starting with Kies and 4 letters (sorry I didn't write it down). I killed both processes. One step further... Then Odin was stuck on step complete(write) operation failed. Never found why. I tried several times, battery in and out again, without success. This was on a Win7 32bit. Latest Kies version.
In the end I installed Odin on another PC Win7 64bits. I had to install Kies also on it otherwise Win7 says "no driver found" when you plug in the usb cable of the SGS2. And on this computer, flashing with Odin worked perfectly.
Thanks again to all people who helped me + also thanks to this super forum where I could find the official firmware I needed after that Kies broke down my phone.
Andrew
hi
Spl1tz said:
Haaa, thx all i fixed it! ^^
It took me 5 hours to find out what i had to do and find the stock Firmware tho...
But all fine now
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but tell me how you got it fixed
help i have the same problem
Spl1tz said:
Help!! My SGS2 is stuck on a screen with an orange triangle and excmamation mark between a cellphone and computer after a ROM flash attempt!
I can go to Downloading mode and Odin can detect my smartphone but i don't know what else to do...
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i have the same problem how can i silve it
skhoudary said:
i have the same problem how can i silve it
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Simple solution:
Read the posts above!
"To err is human, to forgive is divine"
Sent from my SGS II

[Q] Read all the posts I can find and I still can't flash with odin! Please help!

Hi everyone,
I brought a new galaxy s2 phone about 4 weeks ago and it has spent most of that time soft bricked since I tried to update it to the newest firmware, K14....
I am using windows 7 starter, 32bit. I have installed kies, uninstalled and re-installed kies, tried uninstalling kies and just using the drivers.
Recently I did a clean install of windows, installed kies, as more drivers seem to be recognized and downloaded odin v1.85. I restart the computer, start task manager end all processes that say kies, run odin as a administrator, put the tar file in pda, only auto reboot is selected. I then plug in the phone, in download mode, wait for yellow box and press start and the process only goes as far as boot.bin.
I have tried all of my usb ports and the only difference is the number of the modem installed driver and how far along odin gets. With two ports it only goes as far as setup connection which was as far as anything went before I re-installed windows. I have replaced the usb cable and made sure the phone battery is fully charged. The phone was put into usb debugging mode before it was bricked. I have attached a picture of what drivers get installed when I plug in the phone. The firmware I am attempting to flash is the uk 3 version off the firmware page of this website.
Please can somebody give me the solution it is driving me nuts!
Sorry for waffling but I figure you need to know what I've tried so that I don't waste anybodies time.
Thanks guys
Did you try a different stock rom? Did you try a different pc? Or if you want to, flash a CF-root kernel. Then boot in recovery and flash a rom of your choice.
The flashcounter will start and stock roms can't be flashed this way (at least as far as I know).
Is your phone a I9100 model?
I ask this to make sure you are trying to flash the correct firmware for your device.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA App
Cookoospite said:
Hi everyone,
I brought a new galaxy s2 phone about 4 weeks ago and it has spent most of that time soft bricked since I tried to update it to the newest firmware, K14....
I am using windows 7 starter, 32bit. I have installed kies, uninstalled and re-installed kies, tried uninstalling kies and just using the drivers.
Recently I did a clean install of windows, installed kies, as more drivers seem to be recognized and downloaded odin v1.85. I restart the computer, start task manager end all processes that say kies, run odin as a administrator, put the tar file in pda, only auto reboot is selected. I then plug in the phone, in download mode, wait for yellow box and press start and the process only goes as far as boot.bin.
Possibility one bad firmware file or wrong file ,
Or not using Samsung USB cable .
jje
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Hi Lenny,
Yh, i have tried it on my desktop which runs 7 home premium. Clean install with same results. Tried the K14 firmware a few times but that never got any further than setup connection. Don't understand the rest of your post sorry. Can you do a flash for dummies thing? And is there a firmware you would recommend trying?
@ aceofclubs -the box says i9100 and so does the sticker in the back.
@ JJEgan - the first cable I used was the one in the box and while the one I have replaced by ebay, they had good feedback. The K14 firmware was given to be by a user of the galaxy s2 that he had successfully flashed with.
Does the phone look to have installed correctly, the guy who gave me the firmware said he had abd appear in device manager, which I haven't got. Also after the phone is finished installing drivers if I click in the system tray, the green icon that shows devices that are present is not there and neither is the phone but if I go into device manager samsung composite device is.
Cookoospite said:
Hi Lenny,
The K14 firmware was given to be by a user of the galaxy s2 that he had successfully flashed with.
Does the phone look to have installed correctly, the guy who gave me the firmware said he had abd appear in device manager,
Better of following the instructions than second hand stuff .
Download firmware from stock rom thread no excuses of bad firmware then .
Stock Roms .and csc
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278
jje
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Thanks for the suggestion JJegan but I just tried another firmware from the link you provided above with no success, stopped at setup connection. What is abd and do I need it? Think I must be missing some drivers!
Cookoospite said:
Thanks for the suggestion JJegan but I just tried another firmware from the link you provided above with no success, stopped at setup connection. What is abd and do I need it? Think I must be missing some drivers!
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No you dont need a ADB neccesarily for flashing. ADB (Android Debug Bridge) is a tool that comes with the Android SDK that allows you to control and interface with your Android device. Well do u have the phone specifications before bricking it, like Model No, Built, CSC, Kernal Etc.
First try to uninstall Kies and Install the latest version, so that you have the latest drivers.
Check the Intratech thread on Stock ROM ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278) and download the correct rom.( I presume you have I9100 Intenational Version of S2). Open Odin 1.85, do not change any options, brownse and put the stock rom u downloaded into the PDA section and click on start button, you should be good.PM me if you have any issues.
The above didn't work. Here's what I got:
Cookoospite said:
Thanks for the suggestion JJegan but I just tried another firmware from the link you provided above with no success, stopped at setup connection. What is abd and do I need it? Think I must be missing some drivers!
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AS you have the yellow box in Odin you have the drivers all the firmware in that link works .
run odin as a administrator, put the tar file in pda, only auto reboot is selected. I then plug in the phone, in download mode, wait for yellow box and press start
Lets do this the right way just to be sure . Open Odin put the tar file in PDA
go to download mode at first screen download mode on phone follow instruction ( vol up from memory ) after next screen connect Samsung USB cable to phone and PC .
jje
Thanks, think I've done that anyway but, just to check, what do you mean by next screen?
The screen when you are in download mode and press volume up.
Yh that is what I'm doing, thanks tho. Can someone please give me a reliable link to an older version of Odin to try? At the mo I am using v1.85, this the latest version?
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA App
Odin 1.3 here
Cookoospite said:
Yh that is what I'm doing, thanks tho. Can someone please give me a reliable link to an older version of Odin to try? At the mo I am using v1.85, this the latest version?
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA App
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So close! I plugged the phone in and got as far as cache with the green progress bar showing just the tiniest bit. Left it for over an hour but the bar didn't move at all! Encouraged I restarted the computer to try again only to find that now the computer and odin won't recognize the phone until I uninstall and reinstall kies and always hangs on cache. I restarted in the first place as the phone never shows in the system tray. Sorry to be a bore but have you any idea why everyone else can plug in and flash and my machines refuse to! I welcome any ideas you have. Thank you.
Instead of Odin, you could try Heimdall. Maybe that will work for you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1104826
Thanks Lenny. Don't know how to use it tho no boxes like on the tutorials I have watched in the latest version. Can you clue me in please?
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA App
Here is a guide, it should work the same for our phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=878686
Thanks. Have to wait a couple of days to try it now. Happy Christmas
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA App
hey hope everyone had a good christmas and new year. Still no joy, where do I get PIT files to flash with the newest version of heimdall to go with our firmware? The newest version won't let me add files until I enter a PIT. I tried version 1.1 but I couldn't get it to recognise a compatible device.
On the odin front: I thought I'd cracked it. It started flashing, took hours but I had half a green progress bar and then it just seem to freeze. Also this seems replicable a few times and then I get stuck at setup connection again. I then have to do a system restore to get it to flash to the furthest point again. Does this give anyone any clues? Or does anyone know of any heimdell packages I could try? And the long shot, any way of getting firmware on to an sd card and flashing that way when a phone is soft bricked?
Sorry if I'm annoying you but there has to a way round this. I brought a rooted one to use while this is sorted, love the phone but need to know I can update and be able to sort it out if things go wrong.
Thanks again for your help and suggestions.

Updating with Samsung Kies Nightmare!

Hi to all, I connected my GS 3 to Samsung Kies and found the LFB update.. I proceeded with the download which seems to be taking a lifetime, I am on a 50MB connection, the program itself took a few seconds to upgrade, the download of the firmware however is taking a lifetime! it would go to 2% and report an error, restart the download goes up to 3 or 5% and again reports an error, every time i redownload it increments by 1 to 2% and reports an error.
Anyone experiencing such issues with Kies?
Can I simply download the LFB firmware via SamMobile and flash it with Odin?
Thanks for the help..
edd080 said:
Hi to all, I connected my GS 3 to Samsung Kies and found the LFB update.. I proceeded with the download which seems to be taking a lifetime, I am on a 50MB connection, the program itself took a few seconds to upgrade, the download of the firmware however is taking a lifetime! it would go to 2% and report an error, restart the download goes up to 3 or 5% and again reports an error, every time i redownload it increments by 1 to 2% and reports an error.
Anyone experiencing such issues with Kies?
Can I simply download the LFB firmware via SamMobile and flash it with Odin?
Thanks for the help..
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sorry mate can't help as mine worked fine.
I just followed the instructions and walked away from the phone until it restarted.
is your phone fully charged before you start the update? and are you updating via USB(I assume you are)
Phone was 88% and is now fully charged since the download started!!, Yep it is connected via USB..
edd080 said:
Hi to all, I connected my GS 3 to Samsung Kies and found the LFB update.. I proceeded with the download which seems to be taking a lifetime, I am on a 50MB connection, the program itself took a few seconds to upgrade, the download of the firmware however is taking a lifetime! it would go to 2% and report an error, restart the download goes up to 3 or 5% and again reports an error, every time i redownload it increments by 1 to 2% and reports an error.
Anyone experiencing such issues with Kies?
Can I simply download the LFB firmware via SamMobile and flash it with Odin?
Thanks for the help..
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I had that too, do yourself a favour and uninstall Kies (except for the usb drivers).
Than download the rom you need from here http://www.sammobile.com/firmware/ ,
download Odin V3 3.0.4 and flash the rom with Odin. You don`t need Kies perse to update. Kies is a nightmare
gee2012 said:
I had that too, do yourself a favour and uninstall Kies (except for the usb drivers).
Than download the rom you need from here http://www.sammobile.com/firmware/ ,
download Odin V3 3.0.4 and flash the rom with Odin. You don`t need Kies perse to update. Kies is a nightmare
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Ah ok so I can download the firmware and flash with odin.. thanks alot mate thats what i needed to know..:good: to hell with Kies... it really is useless ...
Thanks again..
Just make sure you follow Odin to the letter...... Don't tick any boxes that look as if they need ticking..... and make sure you drop the phone into Download mode before connecting otheriwse Odin won't find the phone.
Beards said:
Just make sure you follow Odin to the letter...... Don't tick any boxes that look as if they need ticking..... and make sure you drop the phone into Download mode before connecting otheriwse Odin won't find the phone.
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Yep I am familiar with Odin, used the CF root twice 6.3 and 6.4 to root my GS3, wont tick any boxes for sure
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edd080 said:
Ah ok so I can download the firmware and flash with odin.. thanks alot mate thats what i needed to know..:good: to hell with Kies... it really is useless ...
Thanks again..
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Readup a bit, it isn`t hard but there are a few things you must know:
1. Enable usb debugging on your phone
2. Go into downloadmode (volume down + power + menu all at the same time)
3. See if IDCOM light up yellow and in the left bottom window it says added when you connect your phone to the pc.
4. Unzip the downloaded file ONCE into a .tar or md5 file
5. Place that file in the PDA section.
6. Do not tick anything, only f.reset.time and autoreboot should be ticked.
7. Start
Too late but maybe usefull for someone else
I installed Samsung Kies on my main PC, on one of my secondary SSDs. It prevented my entire PC from closing down, the processes could not be ended in task manager, and it bluescreened my PC when it started up. Had to uninstall it from safe mode in the end. However, on my laptop it worked fine... WTF? Giant POS.
Yep kies sucks, I'm using odin most of the times!
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda premium
jaju123 said:
I installed Samsung Kies on my main PC, on one of my secondary SSDs. It prevented my entire PC from closing down, the processes could not be ended in task manager, and it bluescreened my PC when it started up. Had to uninstall it from safe mode in the end. However, on my laptop it worked fine... WTF? Giant POS.
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If you`re using a windows pc you could install a programm called Revo uninstaller to uninstall software, it works fine for me and cleans all directories that windows doesn`t clean.
Managed to update my gs3 using odin, just had to reflash cf foot all seems ok ;-)
Sent from my Galaxy S3
edd080 said:
Managed to update my gs3 using odin, just had to reflash cf foot all seems ok ;-)
Sent from my Galaxy S3
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Nice one Edd
Well done
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda premium
Kies in short is a cancer.

[Q] GS2 Bricked ... PLEASE HELP

Hi,
I recently bought a gs2 however its not working, basically the guy who sold it to me was trying to upgrade it to latest software via xda apparently and now its blocked. it just flashes the screen, black screen, you can see the yellow triangle when i try to put it into recovery or download mode. i have done some research but cant get my head round it. it comes up on kies as pda:lpt/phone:lq6/csc:lpa(xeu) as current firmware version. i have tried using odin to re set it and flash it also however odin wont read it and wont come up yellow , i have removed and re set the drivers still not luck.
i am not very clued up on android as i used to use blackberry.
can anyone please help me on what to do and how to do it?
thank you
kuq-e-zi said:
... when i try to put it into recovery or download mode...
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What do you me by "try"? Can you enter download mode or not?
fxrb said:
What do you me by "try"? Can you enter download mode or not?
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He can, because he stated that he tried to reset it via odin...
@OP , take a look at the USB port where you charge the phone... Do you see something wrong with it?...
Sent with a homing pigeon
riro1612 said:
He can, because he stated that he tried to reset it via odin...
@OP , take a look at the USB port where you charge the phone... Do you see something wrong with it?...
Sent with a homing pigeon
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the usb is ok, it charges the phone, connects to kies as well but not odin. i bought a usb jig as well. when i connect the jig it flashes "downloading" though it hard to see as its flashing non stop however nothing else happens.
kuq-e-zi said:
hard to see as its flashing non stop however nothing else happens.
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You mean the screen keeps flickering?

Kies soft brick problem.

Call me stupid or what but I used Kies to change the firmware and it got as far as 27% and it just hung for over an hour. I have now got " Firmware encounted an issue, Please select recovery mode in Kies and try again. " . It down loads something , gets to 100% then it closes down and the Kies main program doesn't respond in windows. I had Triangle away using the delay method, I know I should have uninstalled but I thought Keis would have cleared before the update.
Iam on GT I9300BVBLH2 TMUBLH2 BVLH1 stock rom, Flash counter 0 and normal status.
I have a USB rig on the way.
Thanks.
jb.traveller said:
Call me stupid or what but I used Kies to change the firmware and it got as far as 27% and it just hung for over an hour. I have now got " Firmware encounted an issue, Please select recovery mode in Kies and try again. " . It down loads something , gets to 100% then it closes down and the Kies main program doesn't respond in windows. I had Triangle away using the delay method, I know I should have uninstalled but I thought Keis would have cleared before the update.
Iam on GT I9300BVBLH2 TMUBLH2 BVLH1 stock rom, Flash counter 0 and normal status.
I have a USB rig on the way.
Thanks.
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Try to get in downloadmode with the jig ( turn the phone off first) and flash the stock rom manualy with Odin. That should do it. First end all Kies tasks before flashing with Odin in task and tray manager.
gee2012 said:
Try to get in downloadmode with the jig ( turn the phone off first) and flash the stock rom manualy with Odin. That should do it. First end all Kies tasks before flashing with Odin in task and tray manager.
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Thank you for the quick reply but I have sorted it. For anyone else it was my Windows Vista Business laptop going into exception. So I used my sons PC windows 7 and odin 3.07 loaded the new stock rom 4.1.2.
When it goes tits up normal reasoning is out of the head.
Thanks again. :good:

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