If you haven't check the Nook Dev. section of this forum since last night, Indirect and anlog have figured a way to root the NT. please check over there...
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Root: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1354487
Google Apps: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1354887
Third-party Keyboard (in progress): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1355082
Getting mine on Friday, can't wait to put all these (and maybe more) to good use.
Nothing really worth rooting it for yet - at least for me. When they unlock the boot loader then I'll consider it.
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Yeah, I rooted and got market working! I was about to return this, but now I have hope for the future capability of this device. The only huge issues I have now are just being able to install swiftkey, remap the nook button, copy/paste in all fields, and for autocomplete to work with gapps. Otherwise this thing kicks ass! Thank you developers for all the hard work, I will be sure to donate $20 to whoever figures out how to get roms on this. If ICS can run on this, I will be one happy camper.
I rooted mine and almost immeditly after the mobo in my big computer **** the bed. There is lots of really good stuff you can do with root access. You'll be able to put a real keyboard on there the google market, and soooooooo much more.
No need for root for me...I got all the apps I needed from the amazon app store and by downloading APKs off the web. Using Go Launcher, swiftkey and Dolphin web browser...
BigCTM said:
No need for root for me...I got all the apps I needed from the amazon app store and by downloading APKs off the web. Using Go Launcher, swiftkey and Dolphin web browser...
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I'm kind of feeling the same way. With sideloading as an option, I'm getting pretty much everything I need from various non-Market sites. That's not to say rooting isn't worth it - just not a high need right now, except for the possibility of expanding the 1GB limitation.
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No need for root for me...I got all the apps I needed from the amazon app store and by downloading APKs off the web. Using Go Launcher, swiftkey and Dolphin web browser...
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How did you get swiftkey to work? I can't seem to enable it once it is installed. I saw that someone posted a possibly functional workaround similar to kf, but it was really laborous and I have two huge exams in 40 hours
I expanded the 1 GB limitation by using a 8 GB Micro SD card I had sitting around the house.
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I'm kind of feeling the same way. With sideloading as an option, I'm getting pretty much everything I need from various non-Market sites. That's not to say rooting isn't worth it - just not a high need right now, except for the possibility of expanding the 1GB limitation.
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My bad...I installed it while installing other apps and assumed it would work. Bad assumption on my part...
notphilip said:
How did you get swiftkey to work? I can't seem to enable it once it is installed. I saw that someone posted a possibly functional workaround similar to kf, but it was really laborous and I have two huge exams in 40 hours
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I dearly want to root the NT. I have access to an iMac and a Windows XP machine, but I'm not at all familiar with scripts and adb and stuff. I rooted and rom'd my Htc Incredible, but that was easy lol. A video walkthrough would be awesome, or a one click solution like Unrevoked. I do appreciate everything that the devs have done though, thanks guys. If anyone would like to hold my hand through this process I, and I'm sure others, would greatly appreciate it!
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i rooted mine today. mostly because the script included the gapps. i wanted market for easier management of my apps.
Is there anyway to Copy and Paste without root? I assumed the NT would automatically be able to do it unless I am missing something?
notphilip said:
The only huge issues I have now are just being able to install swiftkey, remap the nook button, copy/paste in all fields
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I am not sure I am going to root this device. If I can get what I needed via sideloading I may just pass. I hate having to redo everything each time an update get's pushed down, and was not happy with CM7.1 (Wifi, SOD, and other issues) on my NC.
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ANNOUNCING PERMA-TEMP ROOT + HULU FIX!!!!
I've taken the excellent existing information from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1159354 and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=688054&page=46
See the first link for instructions, etc. Basically just plug your phone into your PC, make sure USB debugging is on, using your phone as charge only, and that HTC Sync isn't running. Then open up the attached zip and run Run_ME_Fr3vo_ROOT + HULU FIX. OH, and I'm not sure if it matters, but have the latest Adobe Flash player installed on your phone before you start (10.3.185.25)
That's it! Your phone should be rooted AND HULU-ready until you reboot.
WHAT I DID: All I did was add a few commands that will delete your lib file from com.adobe.flashplayer, then install a different .lib file with correct permissions. Now, when you go browse Hulu with your stock browser or Dolphin (making sure your settings are set to disable mobile browsing, or set as DESKTOP VIEW, etc), Hulu won't recognize your phone as non-desktop, and you'll be free to watch Hulu all you want!
[Please note: this is my first time doing anything like this, as in first time ever creating a .bat file or doing anything with adb beyond the very basics; please bear that in mind when ripping me apart for being a noob ]
If this was helpful, please let me know with a thanks!
EDIT: Thanks to abe_ahmed09 for reminding me this works with stock browser too!
Unable to test this right now due to no PC access. But dude, no one should rip you apart, you are trying to help the community and I commend you do doing things that a lot of others do not have the ability to do.
Kudos,
Tee Jay
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Unable to test this right now due to no PC access. But dude, no one should rip you apart, you are trying to help the community and I commend you do doing things that a lot of others do not have the ability to do.
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Thanks man that's nice of you to say! I really enjoy XDA because (if I'm diligent) I can learn little by little, ask a few questions here and there, and look back and realize I've made a decent amount of progress!
works great! tried it without updating Flash and that was a no go, but once I updated it works perfectly!
Thanks to you and all of the devs out there for all of their hard work these past couple of weeks!
Thank you it worked
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Perfect man hulu works great
sent from my troll car lol
hey noob,lol
very nice work! thanks for this.
SWEET!
Glad it's working! I'll add emphasis to the fact that you need the latest version of flash for it to work.
Here's a question: are there any other programs out there that have to be tweaked AFTER root in order to work? What I mean is, right now I've got 10 or 20 root apps that work flawlessly after I root. But if there are good apps out there that require additional tweaking after root, perhaps we could incorporate that into the .bat as well
n00b question: is it safe to run this if we already have temp-root?
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n00b question: is it safe to run this if we already have temp-root?
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Should be--I just tried and it was fine.
Worst-case scenario, reboot phone and then run it! Either way, because of the nature of temp-root, it's all pretty "SAFE" at this point
Do I need hulu PlUS to use this? Or is it ad supported?
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Do I need hulu PlUS to use this? Or is it ad supported?
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Oh hell no! Just use the free Dolphin Browser from the market, then go to settings and choose "Desktop" so that websites think you're browsing from a PC/Mac. When you get to HULU, depending on your settings, you may need to click the green arrow to watch the video.
Works in Full Screen too!!
...of course, if you're talking about Hulu-plus-only videos---then yes, you'd of course need Plus to view those videos just as you would elsewhere.
EDIT: Reading over your comment again I guess I need to clarify further: nothing here is "ad supported" because there are no apps, etc that I've provided. ALL MY HULU FIX DOES IS SWAP OUT A FILE IN YOUR ADOBE APP FOLDER THAT TRICKS HULU INTO THINKING YOU'RE A COMPUTER. But note that you'll still need a BROWSER that enables you to browse like a computer.
Were these points unclear to anyone else?
Works after updating flash to 10.3.
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Oh hell no! Just use the free Dolphin Browser from the market, then go to settings and choose "Desktop" so that websites think you're browsing from a PC/Mac. When you get to HULU, depending on your settings, you may need to click the green arrow to watch the video.
Works in Full Screen too!!
...of course, if you're talking about Hulu-plus-only videos---then yes, you'd of course need Plus to view those videos just as you would elsewhere.
EDIT: Reading over your comment again I guess I need to clarify further: nothing here is "ad supported" because there are no apps, etc that I've provided. ALL MY HULU FIX DOES IS SWAP OUT A FILE IN YOUR ADOBE APP FOLDER THAT TRICKS HULU INTO THINKING YOU'RE A COMPUTER. But note that you'll still need a BROWSER that enables you to browse like a computer.
Were these points unclear to anyone else?
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To add to that you don't need dolphin. Just use stock browser press menu options and disable mobile browsing
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To add to that you don't need dolphin. Just use stock browser press menu options and disable mobile browsing
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Oh whoops, good call! I'll add that in!!
works great thanks :]
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Should be--I just tried and it was fine.
Worst-case scenario, reboot phone and then run it! Either way, because of the nature of temp-root, it's all pretty "SAFE" at this point
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So just to be safe I rebooted my phone, to lose root, and ran your .bat script. After i ran the script I opened up terminal and type in "su" and is said permission denied. So I didnt have root, i ended up using one of the other .bat script from the forums and running your .bat script after. Everything worked like a charm after that thanks for putting this together. =] Great job
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So just to be safe I rebooted my phone, to lose root, and ran your .bat script. After i ran the script I opened up terminal and type in "su" and is said permission denied. So I didnt have root, i ended up using one of the other .bat script from the forums and running your .bat script after. Everything worked like a charm after that thanks for putting this together. =] Great job
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Awesome, Great to hear it! Ya, not sure why the root method in my OP isn't working for you...different people have posted different results with the same root method! Anyway glad it's working, and as you discovered, there should be no problem running this on a rooted phone
Now I've tweaked it further so it'll overclock your phone to 1.8 GHz! I might make a new thread for that...
Root is working but hulu does show up and starts to play then I get a message telling me its not supported on this platform. I updated flash and mobile mode has been disabled.
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works great for me and oc sweet. im using skyfire
thanks
Previously rooted with Zookandnergy. Had to reset. It still shows B&N Nook Tablet USB Device (twice) under Disk Drives in Device Manager.
What is the latest greatest root option. Do I even need to do the adb driver install or can that be bypassed? Suggestions?
I don't think there really is any "latest and greatest" method ... either you go with Snowball mod (which removes as much of the B&N framework as possible) or you go with N&Z (which gives options from debloating ... i.e. just removing B&N apps). Personally, I used N&Z over a month ago and haven't had any reason to do anything else. I have Google Apps running, plus the Amazon Market, and am very happy with ADW launcher. I did install the SystemUI.apk that has the ICS buttons and remaps the book icon to a home icon. I'll be content with that until CM9 alphas/betas are released.
Edit: oh, and the FAQ has several links on how to deal with driver/device manager issues.
Seems like my big issue is there is no browser icon after resetting. Can't find any way to get to internet.
What exactly did you end up doing to reset? Erase/deregister? Magic SD card?
erase/deregister. What I have on the screen now is BOOKS NEWSTAND MOVIES MUSIC APPS. There is also a white bar the spans the top of these. The n button appears to just realign me back to the home screen but i don't get the white buttons that popo up.
At this point, I would recommend doing the Magic SD card too if you can. I believe that Erase/deregister cleans the /data/ folder, and the Magic SD card will clean /system/. It sounds from the behavior that you have something tweaked in your SystemUI.apk. You could just replace that with the stock one, but I would recommend starting fresh just in case you installed anything else that modified /system/.
OK, and what is (where) the Magic SD card?
Here
so there is no other alternative to accessing the stock browser?
None that I know of. You could try pulling it from the restore zip and reinstalling maybe.
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so there is no other alternative to accessing the stock browser?
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Honestly, the stock browser sucks. I installed Dolphin HD browser as recommended by many members of this forum and never looked back. Dolphin has tabbed browsing, easy bookmarks and a quick access page which makes it very similar to the Chrome browser I use on my laptop. The stock browser is like using one of the original IE browsers.
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Think I'll opt for Magic SD. Any risk of it updating to 1.4.1? (came with 1.4.0 stock thankfully)
It is possible, but if you root and block OTAs right away, you should be safe.
One thing I forgot to mention earlier, I think Snowball mod incorporates the white-on-white menu fix ... that is nice. I haven't done that on mine, I've just lived with it.
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Honestly, the stock browser sucks. I installed Dolphin HD browser as recommended by many members of this forum and never looked back. Dolphin has tabbed browsing, easy bookmarks and a quick access page which makes it very similar to the Chrome browser I use on my laptop. The stock browser is like using one of the original IE browsers.
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He's trying to root and cannot get to the stock browser, so another browser isn't an option.
Sorry, just realized I didn't answer your question. As mr welch said, none that I know of. Also, given that the procedure for starting from scratch is so well documented now and should only take 30-60 minutes, I would recommend you start over as well since you seem to be having some issues with your current setup.
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Think I'll opt for Magic SD. Any risk of it updating to 1.4.1? (came with 1.4.0 stock thankfully)
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There are many posts on these forums about rooting 1.4.0 and 1.4.1. I suggest doing as I did and reading the various posts and then deciding on what will work best for you. I am currently rooted on 1.4.1, not OTA blocked, have access to Google Amazon B&N markets, can sideload from the browser ( using newest nthiddensettings.apk) and use android wonder machine to sideload.
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There are many posts on these forums about rooting 1.4.0 and 1.4.1. I suggest doing as I did and reading the various posts and then deciding on what will work best for you. I am currently rooted on 1.4.1, not OTA blocked, have access to Google Amazon B&N markets, can sideload from the browser ( using newest nthiddensettings.apk) and use android wonder machine to sideload.
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Pardon me the questions but for you what's the difference between 1.4.1 and 1.4.0? are the fixes/changes notables? in few words why will i want to update to 1.4.1? advantages? i have been wondering this for long lol and i have read DeanGibson's thread but i see some people have a bit of trouble with the process.
Veronica
Just completed filming a simplified root method using SDcards, posted video and instructions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1439630
and just realized my laptop does not have an micros sd slot...
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and just realized my laptop does not have an micros sd slot...
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I assume you are copying the restore file to the card? Just use your Nook. Put it in the root directory, and one you restore, make sure you delete or rename the file so you don't restore again on accident.
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thats just it, how to get it on the Nook when I don't have access to a browser? I cannot for the life of me find where the stock browser went!
Release6 out today.
-Supports Dock Speaker for some models.
-Updates SocialLife and Reader.
Won't update yet, can I pre-root it?
Hi SWFlyerUK!
Release6 out today.
-Supports Dock Speaker for some models.
-Updates SocialLife and Reader.
Won't update yet, can I pre-root it?
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I have updated and hope it sort out the power off issue... and post back here to see if that is resolved...
I don't know the answer to your pre-rooting question.. I might be interested to root later!
Ofiaich
Thanks for the reply, can you see any changes in either of the apps?
I assume (hope really!) that SocialLife is more stable and less laggy - any difference please?
Hi!
SWFlyerUK said:
Thanks for the reply, can you see any changes in either of the apps?
I assume (hope really!) that SocialLife is more stable and less laggy - any difference please?
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Sorry, haven't used either SocialLife and Reader! I'll try SocialLife and will report back if it is laggy..
Ofiaich
4.0.3 Release 6
Yes you can pre-rooted I have today this new version pre-rootet...
Tried OTA Rootkeeper but didn't work, ohwell, never used root anyway to be honest.
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New rooten and finished - just the instructions here in the forum http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1887447 I pursue today is done perfectly well under Release 6
Any of you above, give me a good reason to root the Tablet
The Answer why i have rooted the Tablet
For me, the rooting useful because now I can use USB flash drives that are in NTFS format - unfortunately supported by Android, this house is not, unfortunately, you do not FAT32 so I extended my exFAT for larger video files. Since I have only a WiFi tablet I can use the app with Root Manager and use UMTS 3g umts stick on the device ... there are more things but those are only playing - but we can extend by Root use many useful features and The root method is also associated with little risk because you change the read-only files right and push back and forth. Thus, it is worth the thing - for me personally - because everyone has his own opinion .. and that is a good thing
Thanx for your feedback xxliftsupxx
Any easier method than the step bu step guide? The last time it took me hours to do it!
Really could use a batch script from the whole build with a few breaks
Simply copy and paste the instructions to work through in CMD console If you are using step "Backup / system (you may just skip it)" omits goes faster because you'd have to do something else further up again That was what all my time had stolen - otherwise you are in 10min by
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Thanx for your feedback xxliftsupxx
Any easier method than the step bu step guide? The last time it took me hours to do it!
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Same the last time I tried to root it took me ageessssssss. And to make it worse it deleted all my apps.
Is there any way to keep root and update?
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Hey guys have added these links (Release 6) to my thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26882207
Stifilz
reptile64 said:
Any of you above, give me a good reason to root the Tablet
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A good reason, rooted you can use playstation 3 pad on your tablet. . Another good reason?
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Upgraded mine to Release 6, Socialife is less buggy, the news section works now finally though it's still a bit clunky. I think the interface of Currents/Flipboard works better with social newsfeeds
The Reader seems the same, but nothing was wrong with it in the first place, perhaps more to do with new content or types of books.
Sony really need to fix the power issue where you get an inconsistent experience every time you try to switch it on, i never know if it will switch on straight away, needs two or three presses before coming to life. I love Sony, but this needs to be fixed ASAP as numerous complaints are testifying to.
I thought it was a Tegra 3 saver core issue, but the Asus ones I checked don't have this problem. Hope the JB build is more streamlined!!!
All these silly skins are slowing down the core Android OS imo.
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So for me with this root method NO apps has been deleted. The only thing is that the desktop without Widgeds was. But all apps still there and worked perfectly. Email accounts but had to be re-created. But that was under root 4.0.3. Rel.5 so I find this root method great, because you can understand what is happening. An on-click root solution is favorable - but you do not know what exactly because expires.
I have 2 16gb Nook tabs and an 8gb color. I guess I am looking to be able to put apps from different places on them so what kind of roots would be recommended for these Nooks? Thanks
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I have 2 16gb Nook tabs and an 8gb color. I guess I am looking to be able to put apps from different places on them so what kind of roots would be recommended for these Nooks? Thanks
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Root is root. There's only 1 "kind" of root, though there are several methods of rooting.
It is really easy to root borh Color and Tablet. Once rooted you can add apps to your heart's content!
You donät need to install an alternative operating system (CM7/9/10). It's perfectly all right to stay in the Nook original OS and just add the apps.
I did the 4.7 root to one, so I was just wondering if I really need to go any further. This is my first dealings with apps and I really don't know what I need to do to get apps easily and cheaply. What I think I got is a way to get apps from somewhere other than BN store. If that is all I want do I really need cm's?
No you don't need anything else just to get apps. Side load if you've already got the apk or get them from Google or Amazon or wherever you want.
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Thanks! I will keep looking for apps. I did hit a problem when I downloaded and app and it said format unkown. I had unknown sources checked so I am not sure what the problem is. I then went to my root card and it had amazon store app and it said the same thing on that. Kinda wierd.
I got this to work! Downloaded it anew and installed!
Hey all,
This just a conversation to get me to finally bite the bullet and finally root and install a ROM.
With all the delays or possible cancelations of JB on my i717, I have just about convinced myself to root and installation a rom. Avatar is looking good.
I have been using the go launcher and all its sub systems: phone, IM, twitter all the stuff so I need to figure out to remove all the go replace sub components. Is there a panel on one of the releases that makes this easy?
So do yous guys still think the i717 will still get an official 717 update?
Also, if looks like jb will remove the ability to move apps to the sd. At lease it did on my note 10.1. Think they will do the same if they release jb on the 717?
I read through all the fans and understand backup the IMs, data, contacts. What about apps (I have a ton and chagrin having reinstall
So first root, use titanium backup and then install a ROM? Also what is a modem? Usually I am familiar with the term as in phone interface. What is modem rom for?
Thoughts and answers welcome!
Thanks for everyone time.
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Honeybadger said:
Hey all,
This just a conversation to get me to finally bite the bullet and finally root and install a ROM.
With all the delays or possible cancelations of JB on my i717, I have just about convinced myself to root and installation a rom. Avatar is looking good.
I have been using the go launcher and all its sub systems: phone, IM, twitter all the stuff so I need to figure out to remove all the go replace sub components. Is there a panel on one of the releases that makes this easy?
So do yous guys still think the i717 will still get an official 717 update?
Also, if looks like jb will remove the ability to move apps to the sd. At lease it did on my note 10.1. Think they will do the same if they release jb on the 717?
I read through all the fans and understand backup the IMs, data, contacts. What about apps (I have a ton and chagrin having reinstall
So first root, use titanium backup and then install a ROM? Also what is a modem? Usually I am familiar with the term as in phone interface. What is modem rom for?
Thoughts and answers welcome!
Thanks for everyone time.
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+1 vote for root!
I bet the original note gets a JB update. But I also bet the Note 3 will be out by then and Note 2 people will be begging for their key lime pie!!!
It doesn't matter what phone your on, your always going to be waiting for an update of some sort. So why wait... root it! It unlocks SO much potential in these phones. I've been flashing roms for years and love it! I've never had any problems because I've always done a lil research on software out there and followed the directions to a TEE! Since you're new at this I will direct you to this thread. Read the first 3 posts. They will answer 90% of your questions, especially post 3. Once your schooled and brain has cooled a lil, this is basically what you gotta do to get started.
So happy reading and rooting!
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+1 vote for root!
I bet the original note gets a JB update. But I also bet the Note 3 will be out by then and Note 2 people will be begging for their key lime pie!!!
It doesn't matter what phone your on, your always going to be waiting for an update of some sort. So why wait... root it! It unlocks SO much potential in these phones. I've been flashing roms for years and love it! I've never had any problems because I've always done a lil research on software out there and followed the directions to a TEE! Since you're new at this I will direct you to this thread. Read the first 3 posts. They will answer 90% of your questions, especially post 3. Once your schooled and brain has cooled a lil, this is basically what you gotta do to get started.
So happy reading and rooting!
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Thanks very much for the opinion, advice and experience!
Reading now.
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For the remaining 10% off your questions not found in those threads or searching, feel free to ask!
You don't need root permission to flash a recovery, a custom rom, or a different modem.
But with regards to rooting, its not like you're climbing Mt. Everest naked without oxygen. Its a two minute project.
And you only need to root if there is some app or some system action you need to do that having a stock system won't allow.
If you're undecided, then you don't need to do it. Those that need to just do it.
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It doesn't matter what phone your on, your always going to be waiting for an update of some sort.
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That's true except for one product line.
NEXUS DEVICES
Even the nexus s, that was released with the debut of GINGERBREAD is officially supported by Google with a 4.2.2 firmware of its own.
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You don't need root permission to flash a recovery, a custom rom, or a different modem.
But with regards to rooting, its not like you're climbing Mt. Everest naked without oxygen. Its a two minute project.
And you only need to root if there is some app or some system action you need to do that having a stock system won't allow.
If you're undecided, then you don't need to do it. Those that need to just do it.
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What about being to move apps to sd?
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Once rooted you will have the ability to move apps to sd card using a separate app.
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Once rooted you will have the ability to move apps to sd card using a separate app.
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^that
and also you can remove applications placed by the phone company that sometimes only eat some of the battery, even if you never even open them!
You can remove ad banners off the browser as well! saving data if you are not on unlimited plan(like myself)
hmm.. personally i root because of that reason, the ad blocking on the browser(i don't mind them on the apps unless they're sketching apps)
2nd reason would be being able to use the app named "autostarts" which controls the autorun's of any app on your phone! Wisely used, you can stop user apps from restarting themselves and such, just never use on system apps and that means more ram and more battery
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You don't need root permission to flash a recovery, a custom rom, or a different modem.
But with regards to rooting, its not like you're climbing Mt. Everest naked without oxygen. Its a two minute project.
And you only need to root if there is some app or some system action you need to do that having a stock system won't allow.
If you're undecided, then you don't need to do it. Those that need to just do it.
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Maybe it isn't climbing Everest, but I do rely on my phone and in turn I need it reliable. Lockups and waiting for reboots is a worry.
I need apps to work at least 95 percent of the time. I understand and occasionally sunspot caused glitch is acceptable but should be occasional. So yes, I do worry about my constant companion.
I am not just talking about rooting but finding the right ROM which will make my phone more usable and more reliable than the At&t stock rom, just trying to find the right one and install it right the first time.
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PrincessKiwi said:
^that
and also you can remove applications placed by the phone company that sometimes only eat some of the battery, even if you never even open them!
You can remove ad banners off the browser as well! saving data if you are not on unlimited plan(like myself)
hmm.. personally i root because of that reason, the ad blocking on the browser(i don't mind them on the apps unless they're sketching apps)
2nd reason would be being able to use the app named "autostarts" which controls the autorun's of any app on your phone! Wisely used, you can stop user apps from restarting themselves and such, just never use on system apps and that means more ram and more battery
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Your advice, wisdom and time are heeded and appreciated!
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Honeybadger said:
Your advice, wisdom and time are heeded and appreciated!
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the best part is it is very easy to do! even a silly girl like me could root and do all this "mt everest" stuff ehehe its very simple!
and really nothing bad will happen to your phone and i assume you take good care of it :highfive:
i dont evne mind those warrantys things, i take care of my androids as i would a pet or something
and make sure they come in good state and all when out of the box
when i had my first android some years ago i softbricked it and cried! on my first attempt.. because i skipped one step(NEVER SKIP A STEP) but then i saw there's solution to everything.. unless it exploded or something but that never happens yay :victory:
and now i feel these things are useless without root permissions.. it's the first thing i do the moment i get them and come back home! :fingers-crossed:
PrincessKiwi said:
the best part is it is very easy to do! even a silly girl like me could root and do all this "mt everest" stuff ehehe its very simple!
and really nothing bad will happen to your phone and i assume you take good care of it :highfive:
i dont evne mind those warrantys things, i take care of my androids as i would a pet or something
and make sure they come in good state and all when out of the box
when i had my first android some years ago i softbricked it and cried! on my first attempt.. because i skipped one step(NEVER SKIP A STEP) but then i saw there's solution to everything.. unless it exploded or something but that never happens yay :victory:
and now i feel these things are useless without root permissions.. it's the first thing i do the moment i get them and come back home! :fingers-crossed:
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Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experience!
You don't need a rooted phone to install roms. Just a PC, cable, and Odin software.
What you could possibly need is to install a custom recovery like TWRP. That is WAY more important that worrying about rooting your phone. Why? Because you could install roms from your phone and skip the PC. All non-stock roms are already rooted.
You have 16gigs of internal memory for apps - thats like about 200 apps, so you don't need to move them to external sd card.
What you should do is make sure all those apps store their data on the external card. Then you have protected your data and kept your memory for apps.
What app/process you you need to do that requires root permission of your file system? Every concern you mentioned has nothing to do with root permisions of your file system.
Maybe your question should be "Why should I flash non-stock roms over the stock Gingerbread I have now? A Conversation"
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And my answer is use the latest N7005 ICS ROM because it is rooted, has no carrier apps installed and is fast and smooth, and since it is stock, everything functions correctly.
If you want dependable, don't go past 4.04 ICS ROMs, because above that, the ROMs come from other phones and developers have to squeeze them into our phone. The result is random reboots, freezing, main features not working (TV out, s-pen, Bluetooth connectivity issues, to name a few main ones).
Everyone else is going to argue to defend their reason for what they did to their phone -- I answered based on your stated needs.
Good luck, I hope you get your phone to a place you're satisfied with.
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You have 16gigs of internal memory for apps - thats like about 200 apps, so you don't need to move them to external sd card.
What you should do is make sure all those apps store their data on the external card. Then you have protected your data and kept your memory for apps.
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How do make apps store data on the ext card while keeping those apps internal?
rangercaptain said:
You don't need a rooted phone to install roms. Just a PC, cable, and Odin software.
What you could possibly need is to install a custom recovery like TWRP. That is WAY more important that worrying about rooting your phone. Why? Because you could install roms from your phone and skip the PC. All non-stock roms are already rooted.
You have 16gigs of internal memory for apps - thats like about 200 apps, so you don't need to move them to external sd card.
What you should do is make sure all those apps store their data on the external card. Then you have protected your data and kept your memory for apps.
What app/process you you need to do that requires root permission of your file system? Every concern you mentioned has nothing to do with root permisions of your file system.
Maybe your question should be "Why should I flash non-stock roms over the stock Gingerbread I have now? A Conversation"
---------- Post added at 07:10 AM ---------- Previous post was at 06:53 AM ----------
And my answer is use the latest N7005 ICS ROM because it is rooted, has no carrier apps installed and is fast and smooth, and since it is stock, everything functions correctly.
If you want dependable, don't go past 4.04 ICS ROMs, because above that, the ROMs come from other phones and developers have to squeeze them into our phone. The result is random reboots, freezing, main features not working (TV out, s-pen, Bluetooth connectivity issues, to name a few main ones).
Everyone else is going to argue to defend their reason for what they did to their phone -- I answered based on your stated needs.
Good luck, I hope you get your phone to a place you're satisfied with.
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Thanks for the advice, one of the reasons I am looking at upgrading is I also want google now which only cones with jb.
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That's a good reason. But our JB ROMs are the result of great effort and professionalism from our developers, but they are experimental and have issues. So to gain some features, you will definitely lose some.
I have been using 4.1.# then 4.2.2 and I think I'm going back to the N7005 ROM because I miss the features I bought the phone for. Anyway, as someone said, read and decide what the tradeoffs are, and you can always go backwards.
Ok, decided to go with Kangparanoid rom... Right now I have a stock unrooted ROM. What is the best way to create a perfect backup of what I have now to restore current state.
Also is there an easy way to restore all my apps (include what's been moved to my external sd card) post jb upgrade?
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Honeybadger said:
Ok, decided to go with Kangparanoid rom... Right now I have a stock unrooted ROM. What is the best way to create a perfect backup of what I have now to restore current state.
Also is there an easy way to restore all my apps (include what's been moved to my external sd card) post jb upgrade?
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Nice rom choice! I'm actually using it right now!!
I vote for titanium backup to backup all your stuff. I use the pro version so I can't remember if you can move apps to sd card in the free version or not. Once you open titanium you have it backup EVERYTHING! It will backup your apps, call logs, text messages, wifi passwords, bookmarks, alarms, etc..... Do this on your phone now. Then root your phone and make a nandroid backup in recovery. Install your rom and sign into your phone using the same gmail acct you had previously. You'll find that most of your apps will begin to reinstall themselves. Once you got titanium on your new rom installed open it but do not, I repeat do NOT restore everything! Titanium backs up system files that shouldn't be restored because they were from your previous rom. Just click individual apps that you want to restore. Titanium color codes everything nicely. System files are red and mean business! Apps installed already are white. Your call logs and messages will be yellow. Those you can restore. Backed up apps not installed will have a line thru them. I've been using titanium for years since android 1.5 came out. So it works on any rom!
Happy rooting and flashing!
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Nice rom choice! I'm actually using it right now!!
I vote for titanium backup to backup all your stuff. I use the pro version so I can't remember if you can move apps to sd card in the free version or not. Once you open titanium you have it backup EVERYTHING! It will backup your apps, call logs, text messages, wifi passwords, bookmarks, alarms, etc..... Do this on your phone now. Then root your phone and make a nandroid backup in recovery. Install your rom and sign into your phone using the same gmail acct you had previously. You'll find that most of your apps will begin to reinstall themselves. Once you got titanium on your new rom installed open it but do not, I repeat do NOT restore everything! Titanium backs up system files that shouldn't be restored because they were from your previous rom. Just click individual apps that you want to restore. Titanium color codes everything nicely. System files are red and mean business! Apps installed already are white. Your call logs and messages will be yellow. Those you can restore. Backed up apps not installed will have a line thru them. I've been using titanium for years since android 1.5 came out. So it works on any rom!
Happy rooting and flashing!
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Thank you Thank you! I have had titanium backup for year but only on an old tablet that I can't do anything with anymore. It's rooted but no roms available for it.
Thought I would have to root the phone before I could back it up, but will follow you plan.
Thanks again!
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