Hey everyone, I just ordered one of those refurb lapdocks for $99 USD ($28 shipping to alberta
And I was wondering What was the best rom to use for a good lapdock experience
im using bell 2.3.4 cwm zip right now, is there a better rom/ webtop combination to use then stock?
In all honesty, the lapdock experience was rather shoddily put together by Motorola in the first place. Most ROMs do not come pre-packaged with webtop for this reason. I'm not so sure how effective trying the webtop on custom ROMs is without owning a lapdock myself (yet). From my understanding, HDMI mirroring has been a viable option for many. I hope to own a lapdock soon in hopes of contributing to improving the experience.
Im going to be using it mostly for very light word pro, music movies/TV shows and light browsing, Do I need a full debian distro for that or can I use the android apps with the lapdock for that stuff?
In your case, I would test drive purely stock ROM first to establish what to expect of the webtop environment. I don't think you would run into any problems with what you are going to use it for, but should you find something missing you might want to explore custom alternatives.
Be aware that most kernels available lock the CPU at its maximum speed in the lapdock environment. I can't remember if faux123 fixed this in his stopgap kernel or not, but that is the only big issue that comes to mind with custom ROMs
SirFork said:
In all honesty, the lapdock experience was rather shoddily put together by Motorola in the first place. / I'm not so sure how effective trying the webtop on custom ROMs is without owning a lapdock myself (yet). / I hope to own a lapdock soon in hopes of contributing to improving the experience.
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I'm using stock ROM, rooted, along with Webrop2sd. I have xfce4 launcher with Open Office, Gimp, and rdesktop. Couldn't be happier with my phone / PC.
Above configuration took a fair amount of trial and error to get stable and flawless, but I am thrilled with the result.
Td
tjdmobile said:
I'm using stock ROM, rooted, along with Webrop2sd. I have xfce4 launcher with Open Office, Gimp, and rdesktop. Couldn't be happier with my phone / PC.
Above configuration took a fair amount of trial and error to get stable and flawless, but I am thrilled with the result.
Td
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I have a similar set up. If you take the time to set up your phone/lapdock like this, it's pretty cool stuff! My friends are amazed at the things this phone can do, then they look at thier iphone and shake thier head in disgust...LOL!
Have fun with it!
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In all honesty, the lapdock experience was rather deeply integrated with the stock ROM by Motorola in the first place. All non-stock-based ROMs do not come pre-packaged with webtop for this reason....
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Fixed that for you.
I use the stock ATT 4.5.91 ROM. Everybody knocks Blur, but I can't give up webtop and some of the other niceties that come with the stock ROM.
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Fixed that for you.
I use the stock ATT 4.5.91 ROM. Everybody knocks Blur, but I can't give up webtop and some of the other niceties that come with the stock ROM.
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Hi, I know this thread is a year old but im looking at rooting my atrix 4g and want a rom that works with the lapdock properly, do you still recomend the same rom or have you moved on?
cheers Joe
numnutss said:
Hi, I know this thread is a year old but im looking at rooting my atrix 4g and want a rom that works with the lapdock properly, do you still recomend the same rom or have you moved on?
cheers Joe
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Posting the same question multiple times is against XDA rules.
Nothing has changed, or else there'd be a bunch of threads/posts about it. You still can't use native webtop (the modified ubuntu one) on anything but the original stock GB ROM.
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Posting the same question multiple times is against XDA rules.
Nothing has changed, or else there'd be a bunch of threads/posts about it. You still can't use native webtop (the modified ubuntu one) on anything but the original stock GB ROM.
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I was hoping to get a reply from the 3 individuals who i had quoted, who have been in the same position as me in the past!
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I own a droid, and have already rooted it, running CM6, got it down pretty alright. So I'm not all that new to rooting. But my sister has a Droid Eris, and I was looking to root that for her. I plan on using the 1 click rooting app mentioned here, but I was wondering if anyone could recommend any ROMs and/or Kernels that I should use? She's not much of a power user, I'm mostly trying to speed it up for her and get rid of stock apps and such, so any help would be great. Thank you in advance
KaosFroyo
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Kaosfroyo is really great and the other two froyo roms on here I've read great things about them too I've just only used kaos and I highly recommend it
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Id suggest a frayo rom there's a few going around I personally recommend kaos frayo V32 very fast and stable, very great build. Its overclocked to 710 out of box.
my rom is pretty great also
You could also use mine, that is if you want a rom that is stock but with speed tweaks and themes.
I would also suggest one of the froyo roms. Tazz Cyanogen Froyo is really smooth and fast. Of course I think this would be a great rom for anyone.
I'd suggest running jcase's PlainJane rom and check out the new BFS kernel.
I just got a warranty replacement phone, rooted the old way and put PlainJane on there (I had been running PlainJaneT2 which just adds support for A2SD but that only complicates upgrading to froyo later) did a nandroid backup then flashed that BFS kernel and ran a linpack benchmark right after scoring near 2.5 without overclocking (PlainJane barebones absolute stock 2.1 with SuperUser and OC support)
I suggest PlainJane because it's simple, you can get moderate EXTREMELY stable performance gains, get rid of bloatware, run wifi tether and no one would be the wiser that the handset was rooted. Your sister can then confidently explore the app market, slowly get into changing some settings, try a new launcher and at some point then maybe she'd have some interest in froyo...
As great as the Eris Froyo roms are you should face the fact that they're all intended for moderately android savvy users or at least novices with aspirations to learn a LOT more on their own. Few users will ever root their phone to begin with, even fewer will go the distance learning command line for abd and the fact that you're rooting her ERIS is evidence enough imho that you should be putting the LEAST complicated MOST stock solution if you intend to do this for her.
If she walks into a verizon store with her phone she'll get no help, If she loses ANYTHING can't use something she wants to for any reason it'll be YOUR fault and she will VERY quickly forget the hours you spent tweeking her phone to squeeze out a couple more MFLOPS that she'll honestly never really use.
that's my take
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I'd suggest running jcase's PlainJane rom and check out the new BFS kernel.
I just got a warranty replacement phone, rooted the old way and put PlainJane on there (I had been running PlainJaneT2 which just adds support for A2SD but that only complicates upgrading to froyo later) did a nandroid backup then flashed that BFS kernel and ran a linpack benchmark right after scoring near 2.5 without overclocking (PlainJane barebones absolute stock 2.1 with SuperUser and OC support)
I suggest PlainJane because it's simple, you can get moderate EXTREMELY stable performance gains, get rid of bloatware, run wifi tether and no one would be the wiser that the handset was rooted. Your sister can then confidently explore the app market, slowly get into changing some settings, try a new launcher and at some point then maybe she'd have some interest in froyo...
As great as the Eris Froyo roms are you should face the fact that they're all intended for moderately android savvy users or at least novices with aspirations to learn a LOT more on their own. Few users will ever root their phone to begin with, even fewer will go the distance learning command line for abd and the fact that you're rooting her ERIS is evidence enough imho that you should be putting the LEAST complicated MOST stock solution if you intend to do this for her.
If she walks into a verizon store with her phone she'll get no help, If she loses ANYTHING can't use something she wants to for any reason it'll be YOUR fault and she will VERY quickly forget the hours you spent tweeking her phone to squeeze out a couple more MFLOPS that she'll honestly never really use.
that's my take
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That was my thinking as well. I've looked through the forums a bit, and I'm assuming you're talking about these:
(Just realized I can't post links, would it be any trouble for you to post links to the ROM and kernel threads you're talking about so I can verify?)
Just want to make sure we're on the same page?
Thanks to everyone for your speedy replies and help. I'm definitely looking into all these, see what might work best and try to explain to her what might work best for her.
I am running CELB and loving it. I had issues with kaosfroyo and forcecloses.
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Jcase Plain Jane 2.1 is a good stable ROM and agree with psilocybenine's comment.
Another good stable ROM to check into could be Sense-able 3.1. I play around and try out all the new roms that come out but this one is my everyday one for it stability. (plus I like the simple blue theme). Have not had any problems.
good luck
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Jcase Plain Jane 2.1 is a good stable ROM and agree with psilocybenine's comment.
Another good stable ROM to check into could be Sense-able 3.1. I play around and try out all the new roms that come out but this one is my everyday one for it stability. (plus I like the simple blue theme). Have not had any problems.
good luck
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KaosFroyo FTW
but this is out of its area next time try and post something like this in the q/a section
dianeofarcadia said:
Jcase Plain Jane 2.1 is a good stable ROM and agree with psilocybenine's comment.
Another good stable ROM to check into could be Sense-able 3.1. I play around and try out all the new roms that come out but this one is my everyday one for it stability. (plus I like the simple blue theme). Have not had any problems.
good luck
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Thank you! That seems perfect. Another quick question though, of those two (PlainJane and Sense-able) which is most like the standard Eris UI? I want my sister to have as little trouble as possible when using it
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KaosFroyo FTW
but this is out of its area next time try and post something like this in the q/a section
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My bad, sorry about that, I'll remember it next time thank you. As for the KaosFroyo is that one a fairly simple ROM? again, trying to think of my sister here and ease of use
All plain jane does is add oc capability a d superuser rights. Senseable has speed tweaks and apps2sd and some other tweaks. Both are sense based and are like stock with added root fun.
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Thank you! That seems perfect. Another quick question though, of those two (PlainJane and Sense-able) which is most like the standard Eris UI? I want my sister to have as little trouble as possible when using it
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If you want something as close to the standard Eris UI, then that might be Plain Jane. Sense-able has some bloatware removed and other features but not to far off once you get it set up. Just read the threads thoroughly. Sense-able has a couple of add -on fixes (updated the dialer and a text input fix).
Sens Based ROM all hands up for Plain Jane. Fast, stable and sense. I would highly reccomend it as far as sense based rom. As far as Froyo my choice definitely goes to nonsensikal =)
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Thank you! That seems perfect. Another quick question though, of those two (PlainJane and Sense-able) which is most like the standard Eris UI? I want my sister to have as little trouble as possible when using it
My bad, sorry about that, I'll remember it next time thank you. As for the KaosFroyo is that one a fairly simple ROM? again, trying to think of my sister here and ease of use
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its AOSP(vanilla) and the others mentioned above are sense based, which is how the phone comes so if you want a stock feel i used plainjane but you might want to try them both out mabey one suits you better. as far as ease i think they are all pretty easy to get used to.
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its AOSP(vanilla) and the others mentioned above are sense based, which is how the phone comes so if you want a stock feel i used plainjane but you might want to try them both out mabey one suits you better. as far as ease i think they are all pretty easy to get used to.
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not all are sense based bro
As much as I love the Froyo roms, all of them have small flaws that a not-so-power-user would quickly get frustrated with. The camera issue is one of the most notable. She would have to take a picture, then close the camera and open the gallery to view it. If she tried to preview the picture from within the camera, her phone would lock and she would have to pull the battery. If she's cool with that, put her on a Froyo rom. They're all pretty great!
If she wants pure stability and only wants to download and use apps, put her on a 2.1 rom with Apps2SD. Sense UI eats up a lot of the Eris's speed so I would recommend one without it. Plus it's like getting a new phone when you swith from Sense to non Sense based rom. Conap's ELB is my personal favorite but some of the others mentioned in this thread are also pretty stable.
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I own a droid, and have already rooted it, running CM6, got it down pretty alright. So I'm not all that new to rooting. But my sister has a Droid Eris, and I was looking to root that for her. I plan on using the 1 click rooting app mentioned here, but I was wondering if anyone could recommend any ROMs and/or Kernels that I should use? She's not much of a power user, I'm mostly trying to speed it up for her and get rid of stock apps and such, so any help would be great. Thank you in advance
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Hey, my recommendation would be KaosFroyo; it's definitely smoooth sailing!
I posted an article just a couple days ago on my blog about rooting a Droid Eris if you want to check it out: http://jonsuh.com/2010/09/run-froyo-android-2-2-on-your-droid-eris-how-to/
Tried to condense all the steps all into one post. I hope it helps; lemme know how it goes
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Thank you very much! Just got it running, so far no issues or force closes. I have been waiting on a 1.1 bl honeycomb. Thank you!
Wow! Great news, definitely gonna give this a try, had lots of issues the last time I used a 1.2 based bootloader,so I'm really glad to see this!
Thanks!
Justin
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Thanks in advance.
there's a 1.1 version of this now????
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I'm actually surprised that it took this long.
We used the 1.2 bl initially because we had to as we ported directly from the Adam devs. But once there were Clem kernel ports, it wasn't technically a requirement anymore. I just never changed my port as my opinions on 1.2 are already well-stated and sticking with it made sense to me, at least. But that doesn't mean that a 1.1 based HC ROM was impossible.
However, if NI releases a HC port and it's using a .36 kernel to make everything work, this 1.1 ROM might have issues with porting that. But this is all speculation, at this point - I don't know if a NI port will even work on a GTAB yet, regardless of the bootloader used.
does this has the same bl 1.2 version issues or just the usb to pc?!
bl 1.2 version has these issues:
(copied from other forum)
- Camera isn't working (pulled out the app for now)
- Browser is working, but OpenGL is disabled for it to work. That means no Flash on the stock browser.
- (High-def) video playback does not work, yet.
any testers can confirm this? i'm a bit feeling lazy to try it today
confirmed but very smooth i love it its not reading my sdcard though how can i get it to read sd card?
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Awwwww, yeah! I'm pumped. Is this essentially the same as Roebeet's BOS, with the same features not working yet?
This is great news!
Is it accelerated?
Does it run Flash 10.3?
TIA
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confirmed but very smooth i love it its not reading my sdcard though how can i get it to read sd card?
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Odd...seems to work ok on mine.
I did notice that it's called "/external_sd" though, might want to check to see if you have that on your device.
Justin
never mind i cpoied to external sd need to change storageto external as sdcard please as default had to copy all my info from external to internal usb..and flash and everything is working good QUICK QUESTION EVERYONE IM USING SETCPU AND LETS ME OVER CLOCK TO 1GHZ IS THIS A OVER CLOCKED KERNEL IF NOT WHICH APP SHOULD I USE TO OVERCLOCK
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(Editing out the first part, as I PM'd the OP directly. But leaving this part in....)
One other thing, on a good note -- I'm definitely happy to see more modders our there for the GTablet. Options are always a good thing and I plan to pull back a bit, starting new month. So the more HC ports we have, the better!
Quick question... If I'm running Vegan 5.1.1, what do I need to do to install this ROM? Full wipe? Just flash it from CWM? Something else entirely?
Sorry, I'm still a bit of a noob at all of this, but I promise I'm trying to learn!
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I was really hesitant to post anything, as I really don't want you taking this the wrong way. I apologize if it came off as anything else but a concern for post-support, that was not my intent (and, in retrospect, a PM would have been better. My bad).
The branding, for me, is mostly about post-support. Remember, I'm a sysadmin by trade so when I get PM's on issues, I usually ask the usual questions like what mod, what version, how did you install it, etc. That's actually why I started branding "TNT Lite" as such back in November, as it was easier for me to know if a user was actually using my ROM or not. That's really my only concern, here. When two different mods are branded the same, it will get confusing. Especially if they are on two different development branches. It is fun, I agree - that's why I do this. But for users who soft-brick, it's sometimes a major panic attack and a lot of them are hesitant to use nvflash.
One other thing, on a good note -- I'm definitely happy to see more modders our there for the GTablet. Options are always a good thing and I plan to pull back a bit, starting new month. So the more HC ports we have, the better!
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Robeet, I think you were spot on, the OP is not reading it correctly. I can just see the flood of posts/PM's asking you questions and users cross posting between 1.1/1.2 because of this and the difficulty of tracking all this. it's difficult enough keeping up with all these great roms and boot loader types, I could not imagine what it is like on your guys side.
OP he is not dissing you, he is just asking that you rename it so you can support issues and he does not have to keep getting cross questions, it's pretty much non-issue in my eyes.
OP, thanks for supporting the Gtab and the 1.1. people like all you devs that make android so much fun and android FTW over IOS.
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Quick question... If I'm running Vegan 5.1.1, what do I need to do to install this ROM? Full wipe? Just flash it from CWM? Something else entirely?
Sorry, I'm still a bit of a noob at all of this, but I promise I'm trying to learn!
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Yes, full wipe and flash it. do a backup of course just incase you want to go back. back up your apps as well so you can restore them on the other side of HC.
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And it starts....says "Bottle of Smoke" in your XDA app.
Remember - it's a fork of BoS. It has a different kernel and possibly a different ramdisk, so I don't know how it will perform versus BoS (the original one).
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Maybe this should be called something like "Bottle of Smoke MOD" since technically it is a modified version of the original.
Hi there. Well I'm a little confuse, because I read in somewhere that CMods doesn't have support for Webtop OS, but it have Lapdock support, so my question here is, what does the phone when you put it in the Lapdock? I mean, what works? It's just Android working on a 11" HD screen? (sweet) or it's the Webtop by default without any mods?
I have a strong feeling it is the first choice since the Lap dock software was made by Motorola is not open source. I am not entirely sure though.
You should also check out the full Linux via web top mod, it might need to be a blur based ROM though for it to work
You have mirrored android (the screen you see on the phone) with the ability to use the keyboard and the trackpad for mouse.
The problem is that the mirror mode has the same resolution as the phone so the things are quite pixelated.
Overall the lapdock experience is much better on the CM9 ROMs mostly due to the different approach to UI and better mouse control.
Good luck
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I have a strong feeling it is the first choice since the Lap dock software was made by Motorola is not open source. I am not entirely sure though.
You should also check out the full Linux via web top mod, it might need to be a blur based ROM though for it to work
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Just to confirm Webtop is actually a closed-source project based on open-source project so they released the open-source part but the closed-source part is still missing, that's why Android ROM Devs have many trouble with this because Motorola doesn't provide any support... And I personally find it stupid because it could sell the last Lapdocks on the market...
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Just to confirm Webtop is actually a closed-source project based on open-source project so they released the open-source part but the closed-source part is still missing, that's why Android ROM Devs have many trouble with this because Motorola doesn't provide any support... And I personally find it stupid because it could sell the last Lapdocks on the market...
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That's interesting. I would say why not just build a custom webtop but now that I think about it, it will be pretty hard. Maybe the reason Motorola won't provide any support is to try and keep more people on their ROM, or at least a blur based ROM? Still pretty stupid; like you said, it will help them sell more lapdocks.
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That's interesting. I would say why not just build a custom webtop but now that I think about it, it will be pretty hard. Maybe the reason Motorola won't provide any support is to try and keep more people on their ROM, or at least a blur based ROM? Still pretty stupid; like you said, it will help them sell more lapdocks.
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Well, that would be possible to make a webtop-like program that would detect the Webtop (HDMI + Keyboard + Trackpad) and switch on Ubuntu automatically. But now the problem is the development which needs talented Linux/Android developers and this is not so easy to find, especially talented Android devs who would take a whole month to make us happy. The easiest way is still installing a Blur ROM or just use VNC. I will receive my Webtop in 2-3 days, I don't even know which way to use it...
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I am looking for suggestions.
What could I use my Lapdock for, now that I made the switch to CyanogenMod?
Is there a good solution for making the VNC'ed ARM Ubuntu (look for Ubuntu Installer in the Play Store) work better with the touchpad? Should I sell it? Is there a solution to make remote control apps such as TeamViewer or Splashtop integrate with the Lapdock's keyboard and touchpad? Is there any way to make the device switch to Tablet mode without rebooting? That would be rather interesting to see. By the way, the CM9 ROM I am currently running has got Landscape HDMI working flawlessly, so that should not be an issue...
PS: Please do not ignore this thread. Any suggestions are welcome! (Use your common sense though)
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I've struggled with the same question on my photon.. If there's working hdmi rotation on your CM, you can still use it for typing out documents,etc. I also used the mirror mode to watch movies on a larger(than phone) screen in bed.
But eventually I just decided to go back to a blur rom and use ubuntop (which is awesome) while waiting for official ICS and someone hopefully porting ubuntu 12.04 to webtop..
Paranoid Android Rom
I don't understand why canonical hasn't leaked that awesome ubuntudroid system they showed off.. there isn't an easier way to get feedback especially since webtop has died and windows 8 is pushing hard into that whole 'blur the lines' market
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31083061[/URL]]I don't understand why canonical hasn't leaked that awesome ubuntudroid system they showed off.. there isn't an easier way to get feedback especially since webtop has died and windows 8 is pushing hard into that whole 'blur the lines' market
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Maybe they are waiting for the unified linux/android kernel 3.4 this would most certainly make it easier to port and updates trivial.
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I've struggled with the same question on my photon.. If there's working hdmi rotation on your CM, you can still use it for typing out documents,etc. I also used the mirror mode to watch movies on a larger(than phone) screen in bed.
But eventually I just decided to go back to a blur rom and use ubuntop (which is awesome) while waiting for official ICS and someone hopefully porting ubuntu 12.04 to webtop..
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Hello friend, I did the same thing you did, go back to blur....but now I am stuck in the original ubuntop, I mean I can not install all the apps needed to be a fully working laptop....could you help me with it?. I can not understant the steps in the webtop original thread.
you can use it as a gift....for me!....
from the (m)ATRIX...
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you can use it as a gift....for me!....
from the (m)ATRIX...
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kurtcocaine said:
I've struggled with the same question on my photon.. If there's working hdmi rotation on your CM, you can still use it for typing out documents,etc. I also used the mirror mode to watch movies on a larger(than phone) screen in bed.
But eventually I just decided to go back to a blur rom and use ubuntop (which is awesome) while waiting for official ICS and someone hopefully porting ubuntu 12.04 to webtop..
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Currently, I use it for watching movies as well, and I am looking forward to pairing a Wii Remote and/or a DualShock® 3 to my Atrix™, so that I can play some games such as GTA III and Shadowgun (Max Payne *-*) on the big screen.
I was happy with Blur until the day I ran into that tempting CM9 thread. I did not know what smoothness and responsiveness really were. Blur was the smoothest I thought it could ever get... But I was wrong, and now I have to choose between fluidity and Webtop. :thumbdown:
I actually went back to Blur some months ago, but unfortunately, prolonged use of ICS can cause dependence. Believe it or not, I was pretty happy with Blur. Webtop was working flawlessly, I even had BackTrack installed, but then came the relapse: I could no longer resist to ICS. I am now back to CM9, and with it comes my dilemma...
I am looking for a way to use the Atrix™ as a more desktop-ish platform when docked (especially to the Lapdock). I believe the ideal would be Ubuntu through a local VNC client, or a remote desktop app, I just wish they would play nicer with the keyboard and touchpad...
Basically, something like a key mapper (easy-to-use, I am still unable to figure out WiiMoteController's key mapping scheme) for Lapdock's hardware. We could make a keyboard-powered Ouya!
What still concerns me though, is that games would not be optimized for it e.g. Minecraft PE, games where the camera angle for example, is controlled by dragging the screen, so it would have to be a really powerful, but easy-to-use key mapper, and since you can't have everything in life, I'm afraid I'm asking for much...
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Paranoid Android Rom
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What I understand from your reply is that the Paranoid Android ROM could put my Lapdock back to use. But what is the Paranoid Android ROM? What makes it different from other ROMs? How could it (at least partially) solve my problem?
Please be more specific.
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I don't understand why canonical hasn't leaked that awesome ubuntudroid system they showed off.. there isn't an easier way to get feedback especially since webtop has died and windows 8 is pushing hard into that whole 'blur the lines' market
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When the official Ubuntu for Android was announced, even though an Atrix 2 was used for the hands-on part, on the project's official hotsite... It was clearly an Atrix™ 4G standing there on the dock. The differences between our device's design and the Atrix 2's or the Defy's (Defy+'s) are not that obvious, but they are, indeed, noticeable.
You do know what that means, don't you? It means it is almost certain that our device will be on the first batch of officially supported devices!
I don't if the Atrix™ is still there, but if it's not, I can try to find the screenshot I took if you'd like.
I am so proud! :beer:
tomh235 said:
Maybe they are waiting for the unified linux/android kernel 3.4 this would most certainly make it easier to port and updates trivial.
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What do you mean? It would have to be ported to each supported device anyway, wouldn't it?
Sir_gpm said:
Hello friend, I did the same thing you did, go back to blur....but now I am stuck in the original ubuntop, I mean I can not install all the apps needed to be a fully working laptop....could you help me with it?. I can not understant the steps in the webtop original thread.
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I have never thought I'd say this but, "Please don't get off-topic". I'd appreciate it if this gets settled in a new thread or via PM.
Anyway, you said "stock UbunTop", I could be wrong, but I think it's either stock or UbunTop, which is a mod born right here on our neighbor forum, Android Development.
If yours is really stock, I suggest you get BackTrack from the BackTop project, I don't it's got aircrack built-in, and I was unable to install it, so unless you're an experienced hacker, don't get too excited with BackTrack's features, but my point is: It is amazingly faster than Webtop, it seems lighter, I used to be able to run more than 3 different apps simultaneously...
If yours is really running UbunTop I'm afraid I cannot assist you, since webtop2sd never worked for me and BackTop and WebtopMOD were the only I could ever manage to get working on my device...
Cocolopes said:
you can use it as a gift....for me!....
from the (m)ATRIX...
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Hahaha
Nice one. I'll think about it though... Hehe
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gabriel_feo said:
What I understand from your reply is that the Paranoid Android ROM could put my Lapdock back to use. But what is the Paranoid Android ROM? What makes it different from other ROMs? How could it (at least partially) solve my problem?
Please be more specific.
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I can answer this. What he meant is that you should use Paranoid. Paranoid is a rom thats an hybrid of a phone an a tablet, in short words, you can activate tablet mode for some apps, while some other apps still run in phone-mode, for the ease of use.
What I actually meant was to give a name and a designation, which I did.
Google paranoid android rom and you get the website, the website has a much better explanation then I could or should have to provide.
But yes in short it can give you a tablet UI on lapdock.
djluis48 said:
I can answer this. What he meant is that you should use Paranoid. Paranoid is a rom thats an hybrid of a phone an a tablet, in short words, you can activate tablet mode for some apps, while some other apps still run in phone-mode, for the ease of use.
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Random Canadian said:
What I actually meant was to give a name and a designation, which I did.
Google paranoid android rom and you get the website, the website has a much better explanation then I could or should have to provide.
But yes in short it can give you a tablet UI on lapdock.
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I did before you guys answered and after I posted my reply, and was about to post an apology to you, my friend (Random Canadian).
Sometimes my brain takes just way too long to figure some things out...
I am sorry.
Anyway, thank you very much! This might just solve it all!
>>>>> But even if it works for me, please don't stop sharing your ideas! <<<<<
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gabriel_feo said:
I did before you guys answered and after I posted my reply, and was about to post an apology to you, my friend (Random Canadian).
Sometimes my brain takes just way too long to figure some things out...
I am sorry.
Anyway, thank you very much! This might just solve it all!
>>>>> But even if it works for me, please don't stop sharing your ideas! <<<<<
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So no gift for me? ... hahaha... just a joke... glad you solve it...
from the (m)ATRIX...
Is it possible to get paranoid android on the lap dock in native resolution?(1376)
So as I understand it, the Photon has drivers issues which is why we dont have a port of for instant a droid bionic version of moto ICS, or moto jellybean. I am wondering what we need to get a kernel going. If this happened this would open up the possibility for doing webtop on a non stock rom.(Which I really would love cm 10.1 with ubuntop) I have been using linux for many years and am familiar with compiling and modifying kernels and packages I am just still new with android I came from the Epic 4G. I just would like to be pointed in the right direction or maybe someone who already makes kernels has attempted this and we could work together.
Thanks for your time.
You need source from Motorola and whatever company it was that Apple bought. You can try the Compendium thread for kernel links but as of now a new kernel is highly unlikely.
So then maybe we should look into writing our own? I mean if they can do it why can't we?
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atsuisofu said:
So as I understand it, the Photon has drivers issues which is why we dont have a port of for instant a droid bionic version of moto ICS, or moto jellybean. I am wondering what we need to get a kernel going. If this happened this would open up the possibility for doing webtop on a non stock rom.(Which I really would love cm 10.1 with ubuntop) I have been using linux for many years and am familiar with compiling and modifying kernels and packages I am just still new with android I came from the Epic 4G. I just would like to be pointed in the right direction or maybe someone who already makes kernels has attempted this and we could work together.
Thanks for your time.
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There's a thread over in the Atrix 4G forums where some people are working on a port from the Galaxy R kernel. You may want to follow that thread and offer your assistence there, because chances are that any progress that benefits the Atrix will benefit the Photon in the long run.
runningslow said:
There's a thread over in the Atrix 4G forums where some people are working on a port from the Galaxy R kernel. You may want to follow that thread and offer your assistence there, because chances are that any progress that benefits the Atrix will benefit the Photon in the long run.
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In theory that is sound, but the Atrix has a much newer kernel version than ours from the start (not sure how that happened with our device being more recent release). If you're planning to try, make sure that you have device protection or a good number of devices to work with....they've already hard bricked one or two from what I had seen.
What drivers are required, and I assume you mean for a 3.x kernel?
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Unless you want to rev-eng a couple of parts of the kernel to make the GalaxyR kernel exaclty compatible with the Photon, you won't be able to use the stuff. Sorry.
cybik said:
Unless you want to rev-eng a couple of parts of the kernel to make the GalaxyR kernel exaclty compatible with the Photon, you won't be able to use the stuff. Sorry.
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What ever happened to the magic kernel?
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cornelious2 said:
What ever happened to the magic kernel?
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I was wondering the samething, have heard any news of it, he must not be able to release it.
wcherin said:
I was wondering the samething, have heard any news of it, he must not be able to release it.
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Yeah, he said he had something special for us, but never told us what it was.
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R2DeeTard said:
Yeah, he said he had something special for us, but never told us what it was.
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maybe, jut maybe some day it will be leaked.
after the screwing Moto gave us he might as well post it. wtf are they gonna do? lock our damn phones?
My guess is it just never panned out and the guy didn't want to disappoint us. This was around the time of the Atrix leak, and that never amounted to anything, and a bunch of people got let down. It's my theory, which is far from concrete, that the leak included Photon files as well, that also never amounted to anything, but less was said here, so fewer people will be let down. I'm personally not worried. Come whatever may. My phone may not be able to do MMS or camcorder, or run Chrome or Swiftkey Flow, but I like it. It does the things I want it to. And it looks sexy as hell. I'd appreciate this mystery kernel or whatever, but I'm not gonna lose sleep if some mad scientist is holding out. Not saying that's what cybik is (I actually don't know much about him), just saying neither of the two extremes affect me much. And they shouldn't affect y'all either. If you're locked I'm sorry, that sucks, so is my brother, but you can run Holo Launcher/Locker and use either utter!, Maluuba, or Dragon Go! for voice commands/personal assistant, Notification Toggle for, well, the toggles, and Dolphin for your browser, and that puts you fairly close to Android 4. Motoblur can't keep a WiFi lock to save its life, but there are apps for that... I'm trying to test one on my wife's phone, but I'm not getting very good data from it. If you're unlocked, you have a lot of good choices as it is.
I may be an Atrix owner, but if the 2.6.39.4 kernel that is being dev'd for the Atrix is a success, couldn't you take the post-dev'd 2.6.39.4 kernel and port it to the Photon?