So as I understand it, the Photon has drivers issues which is why we dont have a port of for instant a droid bionic version of moto ICS, or moto jellybean. I am wondering what we need to get a kernel going. If this happened this would open up the possibility for doing webtop on a non stock rom.(Which I really would love cm 10.1 with ubuntop) I have been using linux for many years and am familiar with compiling and modifying kernels and packages I am just still new with android I came from the Epic 4G. I just would like to be pointed in the right direction or maybe someone who already makes kernels has attempted this and we could work together.
Thanks for your time.
You need source from Motorola and whatever company it was that Apple bought. You can try the Compendium thread for kernel links but as of now a new kernel is highly unlikely.
So then maybe we should look into writing our own? I mean if they can do it why can't we?
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So as I understand it, the Photon has drivers issues which is why we dont have a port of for instant a droid bionic version of moto ICS, or moto jellybean. I am wondering what we need to get a kernel going. If this happened this would open up the possibility for doing webtop on a non stock rom.(Which I really would love cm 10.1 with ubuntop) I have been using linux for many years and am familiar with compiling and modifying kernels and packages I am just still new with android I came from the Epic 4G. I just would like to be pointed in the right direction or maybe someone who already makes kernels has attempted this and we could work together.
Thanks for your time.
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There's a thread over in the Atrix 4G forums where some people are working on a port from the Galaxy R kernel. You may want to follow that thread and offer your assistence there, because chances are that any progress that benefits the Atrix will benefit the Photon in the long run.
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There's a thread over in the Atrix 4G forums where some people are working on a port from the Galaxy R kernel. You may want to follow that thread and offer your assistence there, because chances are that any progress that benefits the Atrix will benefit the Photon in the long run.
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In theory that is sound, but the Atrix has a much newer kernel version than ours from the start (not sure how that happened with our device being more recent release). If you're planning to try, make sure that you have device protection or a good number of devices to work with....they've already hard bricked one or two from what I had seen.
What drivers are required, and I assume you mean for a 3.x kernel?
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Unless you want to rev-eng a couple of parts of the kernel to make the GalaxyR kernel exaclty compatible with the Photon, you won't be able to use the stuff. Sorry.
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Unless you want to rev-eng a couple of parts of the kernel to make the GalaxyR kernel exaclty compatible with the Photon, you won't be able to use the stuff. Sorry.
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What ever happened to the magic kernel?
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What ever happened to the magic kernel?
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I was wondering the samething, have heard any news of it, he must not be able to release it.
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I was wondering the samething, have heard any news of it, he must not be able to release it.
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Yeah, he said he had something special for us, but never told us what it was.
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Yeah, he said he had something special for us, but never told us what it was.
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maybe, jut maybe some day it will be leaked.
after the screwing Moto gave us he might as well post it. wtf are they gonna do? lock our damn phones?
My guess is it just never panned out and the guy didn't want to disappoint us. This was around the time of the Atrix leak, and that never amounted to anything, and a bunch of people got let down. It's my theory, which is far from concrete, that the leak included Photon files as well, that also never amounted to anything, but less was said here, so fewer people will be let down. I'm personally not worried. Come whatever may. My phone may not be able to do MMS or camcorder, or run Chrome or Swiftkey Flow, but I like it. It does the things I want it to. And it looks sexy as hell. I'd appreciate this mystery kernel or whatever, but I'm not gonna lose sleep if some mad scientist is holding out. Not saying that's what cybik is (I actually don't know much about him), just saying neither of the two extremes affect me much. And they shouldn't affect y'all either. If you're locked I'm sorry, that sucks, so is my brother, but you can run Holo Launcher/Locker and use either utter!, Maluuba, or Dragon Go! for voice commands/personal assistant, Notification Toggle for, well, the toggles, and Dolphin for your browser, and that puts you fairly close to Android 4. Motoblur can't keep a WiFi lock to save its life, but there are apps for that... I'm trying to test one on my wife's phone, but I'm not getting very good data from it. If you're unlocked, you have a lot of good choices as it is.
I may be an Atrix owner, but if the 2.6.39.4 kernel that is being dev'd for the Atrix is a success, couldn't you take the post-dev'd 2.6.39.4 kernel and port it to the Photon?
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Seriously? I'm the first? come on... gotta be some devs out there with this phone!
OK, so, let me ask this... how much of the Atrix stuff will work with this phone? I mean, if I have to go more than a few hours without my CM7 I'm gonna get grumpy!
OK, mostly I want the webtop through hdmi hack, but CM7 is right there with it.
How about starting the Motorola Photon 4G channel boyz!?
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Seriously? I'm the first? come on... gotta be some devs out there with this phone!
OK, so, let me ask this... how much of the Atrix stuff will work with this phone? I mean, if I have to go more than a few hours without my CM7 I'm gonna get grumpy!
OK, mostly I want the webtop through hdmi hack, but CM7 is right there with it.
How about starting the Motorola Photon 4G channel boyz!?
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OK, so, let me ask this... how much of the Atrix stuff will work with this phone? I mean, if I have to go more than a few hours without my CM7 I'm gonna get grumpy!
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Then you shouldnt have bought the Photon. Despite having similar hardware, they're still completely different phones. We dont even have CM7 on the Atrix yet.
And even if we did, and it were a quick port to the Photon, it doesnt matter because the Photon still has a locked bootloader. Right now, its not entirely clear if the Atrix was a one-off or if Motorola has genuinely had a change of heart regarding their bootloader policy.
Hope you like Motoblur. As for the webtop hack, I'm sure you'll get that shortly after root.
How can you ask for CM7 when the Atrix doesn't have it?
Coming into the Atrix section seeming like you deserve something is not the way to act.
Woah, woah!
Hold your horses.
The Atrix has been out for half a year, and we still dont have CM7 yet, despite having an unlocked bootloader.
The Photon isn't even officially available yet, and you want what we've been waiting for?
Give it time.
You don't even have a thread for the Photon yet...
Photos? 10char
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Seriously? I'm the first? come on... gotta be some devs out there with this phone!
OK, so, let me ask this... how much of the Atrix stuff will work with this phone? I mean, if I have to go more than a few hours without my CM7 I'm gonna get grumpy!
OK, mostly I want the webtop through hdmi hack, but CM7 is right there with it.
How about starting the Motorola Photon 4G channel boyz!?
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Well how about you starting downloading all the Atrix mods/hacks and let us know which ones work on your NEW phone.....you could be the first tester!
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seriously? I'm the first? Come on... Gotta be some devs out there with this phone!
Ok, so, let me ask this... How much of the atrix stuff will work with this phone? I mean, if i have to go more than a few hours without my cm7 i'm gonna get grumpy!
Ok, mostly i want the webtop through hdmi hack, but cm7 is right there with it.
How about starting the motorola photon 4g channel boyz!?
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gtfo op tyvm
Sorry guys, guess I was a bit excited and didn't think about hurting your feelings. :-/
I probably WILL try some of the Atrix hacks, why not?
The Atrix has a locked bootloader, and no sign of being unlocked... however, the Photon will have it's unlocked in August, I hear. That's how I can suggest we start work on CM7. Or CM8?
Anyway, I've had some time to play with it more - really not so bad in its stock form, I have to say. I wish it had the finger scanner though.
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Sorry guys, guess I was a bit excited and didn't think about hurting your feelings. :-/
I probably WILL try some of the Atrix hacks, why not?
The Atrix has a locked bootloader, and no sign of being unlocked... however, the Photon will have it's unlocked in August, I hear. That's how I can suggest we start work on CM7. Or CM8?
Anyway, I've had some time to play with it more - really not so bad in its stock form, I have to say. I wish it had the finger scanner though.
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The atrix has already been unlocked. CM7 for the atrix is already in the alpha stage. Trying atrix hacks on the Photon sounds like a great way to brick your phone since they are different phones.
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Sorry guys, guess I was a bit excited and didn't think about hurting your feelings. :-/
I probably WILL try some of the Atrix hacks, why not?
The Atrix has a locked bootloader, and no sign of being unlocked... however, the Photon will have it's unlocked in August, I hear. That's how I can suggest we start work on CM7. Or CM8?
Anyway, I've had some time to play with it more - really not so bad in its stock form, I have to say. I wish it had the finger scanner though.
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have you not read anything about the atrix these past few months? Coming on the forum of a device that isn't yours and demanding CM7 is not the way to get it.
First, you have a locked bootloader. Second, where did you hear you would be unlocked in august?
Third, please don't try these Atrix hacks. that's asking for something bad to happen
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Sorry guys, guess I was a bit excited and didn't think about hurting your feelings. :-/
I probably WILL try some of the Atrix hacks, why not?
The Atrix has a locked bootloader, and no sign of being unlocked... however, the Photon will have it's unlocked in August, I hear. That's how I can suggest we start work on CM7. Or CM8?
Anyway, I've had some time to play with it more - really not so bad in its stock form, I have to say. I wish it had the finger scanner though.
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Dude, you have no idea what you are talking about.
Atrix had an unlocked bootloader for one month now. Two days ago GB kernel source for Atrix was released,- meaning new roms will start flooding in like there's no tomorrow. CM7 is already in alpha release state at the moment. But even before that we had a working CWM. And even before we had 2nd-init and pseudo roms.
So far, Photon has absolutely nothing, meaning you can't even theme your phone. I bet it will be at least half a year before you start having any roms.
You trust Motorola when they say they will unlock Photon? LOOL.
Motorola promised to unlock Atrix with the gingerbread update, but as always failed to deliver. Thanks to the devs for finding the way to unlock it.
Don't get me wrong, I support Android community in general and would love for Photon to succeed - having CM7, bootloader unlock, etc. But your phone hasn't been officially released yet.
Like I said, even if Moto keep their word, you will be on stock rom at least for a couple of months until the first mods appear.
And if I were you I woudln't try flashing Atrix stuff if you don't want a 600$ ? brick.
How's the phone treating you?
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Sorry guys, guess I was a bit excited and didn't think about hurting your feelings. :-/
I probably WILL try some of the Atrix hacks, why not?
The Atrix has a locked bootloader, and no sign of being unlocked... however, the Photon will have it's unlocked in August, I hear. That's how I can suggest we start work on CM7. Or CM8?
Anyway, I've had some time to play with it more - really not so bad in its stock form, I have to say. I wish it had the finger scanner though.
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Now what? How about, go find your own forum
Seriously though...Atrix has an unlocked bootloader. CM7 isn't something a random person can just decide to work on. And there is no CM8 yet.
Now, run along.
SMH......should've gotten an Atrix.
But why would you get a phone without doing research on it??? Or at least compare it to other phones so you could get the best buy, future proof(cause u don't wanna have to buy a different phone within 3 months), and most of all, a phone that will fit your needs.
Haha this n00b obviously hasn't read anything in this section of xda. Have fun bricking your photon with atrix hacks and best of luck getting CM anything.
Patiently waiting for atrix CM nightlies
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one of the Commandments of Online forums:
Thou shall not feed the Trolls.
such threads shall be left unreplied.. make the OP do some basic reading that way.
Photon vs atrix = same phone just a lil bigger
From all the research iv done the photon in the middle betwen atrix and bionic im willing to bet it pretty darn similar to the atrix. but thats my 2 cents
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From all the research iv done the photon in the middle betwen atrix and bionic im willing to bet it pretty darn similar to the atrix. but thats my 2 cents
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It's still different. It doesn't matter what it's between. It's a totally different device. Sure, some things could be used. But flashing between phones is a bad idea.
As we all know that there is not many developers for this photon 4g like other mobile phones ..
so i think that if there are not developers for the photon 4g then photon will die soon
what u say about this ??????
only way my photon is dying is if i forget to plug it in
I Just want to know what the hell it is you people expect?
20, 30 Roms? That all use a slightly different deodexed base? and have a different set of icons or themes? And all introduce a new set of crap that only partially works?
I mean really - there are only so many things you can do to a rom before they all become the same damn thing with a different name and "dev".
Most of what I see out there is a guy tweaking his phone, removing bloat ware,claiming "ZOMG Battery and Speed!", dumping /system into a Zip file and that someone else made and posting it for someone else to flash to their phone
Want to learn how to do it?
Flash aliens rom, tweak it how you like it, add some icons and themeing (the brunt of the work).
adb pull /system/ C:\Users\Username\Desktop
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Copy all of that into Aliens Zip file, post it is a rom for people to flash - almost 0 effort to do anything but the art - which you can steal from just about anyone online and call it a "port".
/rant
That was just rude. .. this is best phone but when you compare Bionic and stupid 3d threads...well i see what he means ...and Roms are not usually the same.. Some have performance tweaks...like 4g on unlocked bootloader. Speed increase, themes and mods.. Nothing wrong with him trying to get or rally development support like some of the inferior phones have. Remember, this is a development site...
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like 4g on unlocked bootloader.
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Not a function of the Rom - Lockfish (I think?) has just been able to figure out how to fix it outside of the issue with the bootloader.
I'm not being rude - I was being honest, but there is a thread at least every other day talking about how lack luster our dev section is. This IS a development forum - and I showed him (really basically) how to make a rom. No?
Honestly, when you get 5 or 6 different roms out there - there are enough similarities between them and not enough differences that there really isn't much of a point. 99% of what most people experience from ROM to ROM is placebo.
It appears both the OP and Kcarp were both in the wrong on this one, and for this reason:
OP - Phone development will progress only as fast as sources are released. This phone is still new enough to where developers are still waiting on critical components to really be able to customize this phone. Do not expect this forum to jump off like an HTC (insert model here) forum, but instead, anticipate seasoned developers finding and introducing mods, tweaks and more efficient ways to unlock the bootloader over the coming weeks/months.
Kcarp - C'monnnn man, you're better than that rant. You've been around long enough (hell, I remember ya from the Hero days) to know that these types of threads pop up weekly, and sometimes it's best just to ignore them. I know you meant well, but the last thing we want to do is scare off future developers from posting here as this phone gets older, when so many are leaving XDA as it is.
I am also getting sick of these whiny threads. This phone gets close to the battery life of my evo shift running a cm7 clone, locks gps about 100x's faster and gets a better data and call signal everywhere. My phone is stock rooted with no bloatware touched. It may take some time but even IF development never goes far with this phone, i'd still be happy with it.
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only way my photon is dying is if i forget to plug it in
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Damn it, you beat me to it.
All I need is CM7 Or a sense 3.5 rom, blur sucks
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Kcarp - C'monnnn man, you're better than that rant. You've been around long enough (hell, I remember ya from the Hero days) to know that these types of threads pop up weekly, and sometimes it's best just to ignore them. I know you meant well, but the last thing we want to do is scare off future developers from posting here as this phone gets older, when so many are leaving XDA as it is.
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*runs away with his tale between his legs*
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It appears both the OP and Kcarp were both in the wrong on this one, and for this reason:
OP - Phone development will progress only as fast as sources are released. This phone is still new enough to where developers are still waiting on critical components to really be able to customize this phone.
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The epic touch 4G came out after it and has at least 10 to 12 roms
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i want to say that like other devices that developers port thing to device like new thing and Android latest OS ..you can see that older device google nexus one and nexus s has the ICS and this thing is done by the developers of that devices .if developers leave to port the thing and Updated Android then devices are able to run application and play games which are only supported the updated Android OS
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i want to say that like other devices that developers port thing to device like new thing and Android latest OS ..you can see that older device google nexus one and nexus s has the ICS and this thing is done by the developers of that devices .if developers leave to port the thing and Updated Android then devices are able to run application and play games which are only supported the updated Android OS
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Established developers will get to this phone eventually. CWM will add the phone into the ROM Manager database, and Cyanogen and others will eventually port their versions to ours. Have patience or be prepared to sell your phone on Ebay/Craigslist if you just can't wait.
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guys i love this phone but asking question (which are meaningless ) is for to satisfy my heart
i love tegra2
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Established developers will get to this phone eventually. CWM will add the phone into the ROM Manager database, and Cyanogen and others will eventually port their versions to ours. Have patience or be prepared to sell your phone on Ebay/Craigslist if you just can't wait.
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Ha
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This phone is Damn near the Best you are going to get out of the box. All those other phones NEED Rom's to run as good as our phone does Out Of The Box. Moto has updated this phone 3x in less than 2 months ALREADY (it would take Sammy 2 years to update the SGS2 3x). There is a rumor I have seen that Moto is working on ANOTHER update for this Amazing phone.
I could careless if I get ROM's or not. It works Great for me as is. I was lucky enough to get Grand Fathered into Unlimited Mobile Hotspot Data since I have been a customer since 1997 and spoke with a Retentions Manager (Politely) and she took care of me). No 5G Cap for me and my area is 4G Saturated. Use the Hotspot for my Xoom, HP Touchpad and Samsung Galaxy Player 5.0. I am Very, Very Happy with this phone.
Had the OG EVO before this phone and was putting ROM's/Kernels on it all the time (last one was Synergy SC2). Got tired of that. It's nice to just have a phone that WORKS like it's supposed to without ROM's.
Nothing wrong with the photon... quit crying
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I have seen some good 3d games from gameloft in the market but most of them appears as incopatible with my mopho, does anybody knows if this is a hardware incopatibility issue or another way to get them.
WTF is this ..........
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This phone is Damn near the Best you are going to get out of the box. All those other phones NEED Rom's to run as good as our phone does Out Of The Box. Moto has updated this phone 3x in less than 2 months ALREADY (it would take Sammy 2 years to update the SGS2 3x). There is a rumor I have seen that Moto is working on ANOTHER update for this Amazing phone.
I could careless if I get ROM's or not. It works Great for me as is. I was lucky enough to get Grand Fathered into Unlimited Mobile Hotspot Data since I have been a customer since 1997 and spoke with a Retentions Manager (Politely) and she took care of me). No 5G Cap for me and my area is 4G Saturated. Use the Hotspot for my Xoom, HP Touchpad and Samsung Galaxy Player 5.0. I am Very, Very Happy with this phone.
Had the OG EVO before this phone and was putting ROM's/Kernels on it all the time (last one was Synergy SC2). Got tired of that. It's nice to just have a phone that WORKS like it's supposed to without ROM's.
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Big +1 here. Epic 4g needed roms just to last a day on battery and to be fast enough to keep up with certain applications. Problem with the ROMs is that even journaled, they'd get buggy after a few weeks, or there would be just something about a ROM that would annoy me. Once it got dual boot capability I was flashing ROMs left and right. It got to be where I was flashing ROMs just to flash ROMs, like I forgot other ways to kill boredom.
I don't feel an immediate need to flash ROMs. If CM7 comes stable to the photon I'll probably try it just to see what the fuss is about. However, I'm more interested in eventual ICS. I'm happy for root because of Titanium backup and other such things that you need root to run. The battery is great, and it's plenty fast enough. There is one thing about this phone that no ROM could give me on the Epic 4g... the ability to make a phone call at work. The antenna is far superior.
the only thing I'd like to see dying Is this troll thread
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so ill start off with please dont go tell me to read google things. iv been on this site for awhile with many different phones i read a lot. now to the topic. iv had my photon since it came out i love it and it does all it needs to but i miss flashing roms and getting that "new phone" feeling when you do. iv been running stock on the photon since the start with no real reason to flash. mainly because the loss of hardware or other things on our roms. dont get me wrong im very happy and thankful for those who put hard work into this bad boy every day. now im getting tired of it and i want to flash just wondering in anyone thinks one thing over the other, i dont mind unlocking but i do want reliability and a bit a flash to it. i need my mms, my camera, video. can anyone suggest whats doing the best on your own photon rom, kernal, locked unlocked. i do understand that each phone is different and acts different with different set ups. i just wanna head in a good direction and not mess with the odd stuff. thanks always xda members for making my phone more addictive then crack with your wonderful hard work. thank you so much. happy holidays to everyone and their families.
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so ill start off with please dont go tell me to read google things. iv been on this site for awhile with many different phones i read a lot. now to the topic. iv had my photon since it came out i love it and it does all it needs to but i miss flashing roms and getting that "new phone" feeling when you do. iv been running stock on the photon since the start with no real reason to flash. mainly because the loss of hardware or other things on our roms. dont get me wrong im very happy and thankful for those who put hard work into this bad boy every day. now im getting tired of it and i want to flash just wondering in anyone thinks one thing over the other, i dont mind unlocking but i do want reliability and a bit a flash to it. i need my mms, my camera, video. can anyone suggest whats doing the best on your own photon rom, kernal, locked unlocked. i do understand that each phone is different and acts different with different set ups. i just wanna head in a good direction and not mess with the odd stuff. thanks always xda members for making my phone more addictive then crack with your wonderful hard work. thank you so much. happy holidays to everyone and their families.
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I mean we have CM7, MIUI, and about what 4 I think modified moto roms we have themes.
There is alot of roms in other phone forums and most of those are just themed roms
You have to flash a kernel and play some tegra games
I'm running MIUI now
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im personally on stock.. but magnifier is a good one as long as you dont mind teh update notification until he puts out the newest version
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im personally on stock.. but magnifier is a good one as long as you dont mind teh update notification until he puts out the newest version
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thanks ill check it out.
Some people like stock with just a kernel flash. Some like it simple and bloat free like skinny. Everything you listed works on all of them except maybe miui for the moment. The most stable and complete is skinnyrev2-test3, because its based on 198-7/254-5. Cm7 and miui are awesome and a must try(im partial to cm because i helped in the beginning and was there when the very first version hit the g1, but i like webtop). Magnifier is great too. Its 154 based but its compiled from source i think. Correct me if im wrong shabby. If moto actually updated their source i would build from source too. Jokerstock-test1 was source built.
My advice, titanium backup and flash them all. Few days on each, with updates you should feed your flashing needs. Plus webtop is soon to be flashable.
Unlike other phones we got pretty much everything you would want fully working. Enhanced stock roms with better battery/performance. Cm7, miui, and roms in many languages. You can find my kernels in 6 different countries. Each with local roms. All blur based roms can be flashed in bootstrap with little edits, giving you 4g. Pretty soon im going to help cybik and miui guys get a bootstrap method up with a dual boot option.
Lets the flashing commence
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no is not from source. he just was under the impression that newer firmwares wouldnt boot with custom kernels so he went with 154 hes working on updating everything to 198_7 as i continue to yell at him about it
stupid holidays and people claiming they cnat do any work...
Oh, i just assumed 154 would be source built. You must bug him harder to update to 198-7 then.
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no is not from source. he just was under the impression that newer firmwares wouldnt boot with custom kernels so he went with 154 hes working on updating everything to 198_7 as i continue to yell at him about it
stupid holidays and people claiming they cnat do any work...
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for some reason i stayed with stock so far but sense or ics would convince me to root!
What about better battery life
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for some reason i stayed with stock so far but sense or ics would convince me to root!
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OK so I know we already have seen a test release I just got a email from Motorola at 12 am offering me a new soak test of a finalized release..... they say this not a beta its what the final release will be.... currently I'm unlocked and running numerous roms at a time..... so what I'm wondering is if this is the same test already seen or something new.... anyone else still receiving or received one last night? I want to try it but scared to
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Maintenance release. Nothing groundbreaking.
Kevets said:
Maintenance release. Nothing groundbreaking.
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cool not that I was going to lock and try it was wondering what was up and if anyone else got this.... guess I should have put it in questions thread
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dont do it, its 2.3.5 locks you bootloader and IMO breaks hdmi out
I got that email too, so if I do it, can I still root my phone? That's all I care to be honest, I need my 4g speeds lol
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yes you can root, if you want to be lazy use voodoo root ota keeper in teh market to backup root
Since I'm rooted stock, and just waiting for stock ICS, I signed up for this. Custom ROMs not important to me on this phone.
I got the email as well. Im not even going to bother with it.
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I'm doing it mostly out of hope that I'll have a better chance of being part of the ICS test.
How dies it break hdmi out. Or was that the first version. If this is revised I'm ok with that i am going to give it a shot ive found my 45.3.7 is a little buggy.
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I'm doing it mostly out of hope that I'll have a better chance of being part of the ICS test.
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When they release the ICS update they will more than likely implement the same unlock kill method as found in the 3.5. And who wants a blurred ics with no ability to install custom roms? We need the release solely for the kernel and drivers. So even if it was ics, no one should update who plans on keeping the ability to flash customs. Then again, I'm sure it won't be long before a dev finds a way around this permalocking bull****.
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When they release the ICS update they will more than likely implement the same unlock kill method as found in the 3.5. And who wants a blurred ics with no ability to install custom roms? We need the release solely for the kernel and drivers. So even if it was ics, no one should update who plans on keeping the ability to flash customs. Then again, I'm sure it won't be long before a dev finds a way around this permalocking bull****.
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Me - I'd be quite happy with that.
Although, I do vehemently object to Moto's locking on philosophical grounds. I'm still a hacker, but personally don't find much incremental value in customizing ICS. (Have stock ICS on my Xoom) I satisfy my hacking needs on the hardware side nowadays (not phones, other embedded things)
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Me - I'd be quite happy with that.
Although, I do vehemently object to Moto's locking on philosophical grounds. I'm still a hacker, but personally don't find much incremental value in customizing ICS. (Have stock ICS on my Xoom) I satisfy my hacking needs on the hardware side nowadays (not phones, other embedded things)
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I didnt mean to exclude anyone. I know having 4g is important for some and keeps people locked. Others just don't know or don't care. But i feel comfortable in stating that 'most' people found in these forums arn't here to stay on stock, but to expand their phones capabilities to the edge of what is possible. I for one don't understand how anyone can see all the amazing work being done around here and not want to get involved. Being locked down would drive me insane. But eh, different strokes for different folks i suppose.
"Involvement" for 'most' people here involves nothing more than whining and demanding things 'the way I want it because everybody wants it that way.'
Personally, I value root access over everything else. That's what makes me happy. I have minor tweaks on my stock ROM that apparently have enough boost to where I don't see an improvement by flashing something else. I have yet to find a hacked-up 'upgrade' which runs as good or better.
The only thing I've gained so far from flashing different ROMs is too much visual candy which I can't stand and a handful of software that I somewhat rely on which either currently doesn't support anything above 2.3.5 or affects my daily use in a negative way.
But yeah, I'm with you. Do what makes you happy. And if it matters, I probably won't do the Motorola update that this thread was intended to talk about.
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I didnt mean to exclude anyone. I know having 4g is important for some and keeps people locked. Others just don't know or don't care. But i feel comfortable in stating that 'most' people found in these forums arn't here to stay on stock, but to expand their phones capabilities to the edge of what is possible. I for one don't understand how anyone can see all the amazing work being done around here and not want to get involved. Being locked down would drive me insane. But eh, different strokes for different folks i suppose.
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Hey, friend, no offense taken. You are very correct - most people here want custom ROMs. I enjoy watching and listening here, and fully understand and respect those who want custom ROMs.
Frankly, I probably burnt out in the WinMo days; I never just "had a phone". I now just like having a phone, and spending my hacking time elsewhere.
Cheers!
Maybe ICS Rollout to Test Users ?
I am keeping my fingers crossed for an ICS test rollout. According to Motorola ICS schedule, the ICS will supposedly rollout in Q3 for MoPho, which isn't too far.
It would be a shame if Moto sent this survey signup for another Gingerbread update. :-(
I recieved an email from them yesterday morning. The link brings me to a page saying the test is now for a Final Release. This is gonna be a GB 2.3.5 release for now. ICS in Q3 could mean as late as Sept 30, if Moto is on time with it.
For me, I'm not changing a thing. 4G is not available where I live and probably won't be for a while, if at all. So I value the ability to root and unlock more. After tryin different ROMs I'm liking blur less and the cleaness of AOSP more.
Right now the only thing I miss about blur is to have a separate notificatiin for VM instead of it being lumped with my SMS notifications, but I'm about to figure out what I want for that, too. After all, "There's an app for that".
My MoPho's in the kitchen sink!!
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Right now the only thing I miss about blur is to have a separate notificatiin for VM instead of it being lumped with my SMS notifications, but I'm about to figure out what I want for that, too.
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If you're using google voice, you can alleviate that by signing into your google account at their actual website and finding your good voice settings.
Has anybody gotten the second final 2.3.5 soak yet?
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If you're using google voice, you can alleviate that by signing into your google account at their actual website and finding your good voice settings.
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Did just that. Works very well for my needs.
My MoPho's in the kitchen sink!!
MX2 2.3.6 Kexec DevelopmentPlease keep this thread clean and used for primarily development purposes.
Things to do
Make test kernel
Atags
Compile Kexec
Compile Kexec tools
Make JB kernel
test compatibility other roms
Make compatible rom
(if compatible with other rom) create write up for working with other roms
create write up for using kexec and kexec made rom
Things that are progressing
*test kernel
*JB kernel
Things That are done
Nothing yet
Links:
not much here at the moment if you want to take a look at a fairly empty github
MX2 Kexec tools & modules
MX2 JB Kernel
resevered for possible change log
and again for possible instructions
ah ha! the kernel verson 3.8_rc3 has native tegra support!!! now to try and get the drivers for the rest of the hardware integrated.
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ah ha! the kernel verson 3.8_rc3 has native tegra support!!! now to try and get the drivers for the rest of the hardware integrated.
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Is this good news? lol
I don't know just figured it means someone has something up there sleeve
Sounds like a new kernel for the mx2
don't be scared it's only a phone
ogd x d2g x2 sg3
old ladies ^
Oh it's not bad news it just means that my job just got a little easier. That however doesn't mean that it'll work right off the bat or that I can get everything working at once. Not to mention its stability might be questionable but it should work
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is development of kexec relevant to droid x2 users at all
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is development of kexec relevant to droid x2 users at all
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Yes and no there are things that are different between the mx2 and dx2 the kexec tools and command will mostly likely be useable between the two along with the kernel except for a few differences like the wifi, but the pointer for where the kexec is supposed to load the kernel is different most likely
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Theoretically have the kernels prepared to compile for base use and work. No display, wifi, ect. Will get around to compiling the kernel aand kexec command and tools eventually. Though I'm stuck at a stand still till I can somehow get the proper ATAGS.
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in the mean time i shall be working on getting files and stuff transfered for backup on github for anyone who wishes to take a look. and just an update for everyone work on this will essentially stop as of now. not just cause i dont have the atags but because of life (aka. school, work, ect.)
I got around to talking to my inside Guy at my carrier. The Guy who made the kernel swap is not comfortable letting people outside the company have it but to let me know that it is possible to do I just have to figure out how.
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I got around to talking to my inside Guy at my carrier. The Guy who made the kernel swap is not comfortable letting people outside the company have it but to let me know that it is possible to do I just have to figure out how.
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Is there anything I/the rest of the community can do to help out?
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Is there anything I/the rest of the community can do to help out?
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research. i have what i need... i think i just need more information. and i need to get a hold of twitish and see if he can create some atags for us using the cdt.bin i have and seeing what we can do with that. after i get far enough im gonna need testers and thats where anyone who wants to voulenteer their time and risk sbfing thier phones come in to play. right now im just stuck cause i havent compiled the kexec command and tools and kernel to run on the tegra processor and i dont have the atags for memory location for inserting the new kernel in to runing memory. till i get around to doing those things this is where were gonna be.
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research. i have what i need... i think i just need more information. and i need to get a hold of twitish and see if he can create some atags for us using the cdt.bin i have and seeing what we can do with that. after i get far enough im gonna need testers and thats where anyone who wants to voulenteer their time and risk sbfing thier phones come in to play. right now im just stuck cause i havent compiled the kexec command and tools and kernel to run on the tegra processor and i dont have the atags for memory location for inserting the new kernel in to runing memory. till i get around to doing those things this is where were gonna be.
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Oh hey! Glad to see you're working hard on this kexec!!!
Now, I hate to be a negative nancy, but the CDT.bin doesn't hold the entire ATAG... You would somehow need to get one from the device itself (or in our case, edit them from another phone to our needs). To be honest, I haven't really looked much at kexec these past few weeks, but I should be able to start back up sometime this week. PM me if you have any information that you think may help!!! I'm more than willing to help you out man!
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Oh hey! Glad to see you're working hard on this kexec!!!
Now, I hate to be a negative nancy, but the CDT.bin doesn't hold the entire ATAG... You would somehow need to get one from the device itself (or in our case, edit them from another phone to our needs). To be honest, I haven't really looked much at kexec these past few weeks, but I should be able to start back up sometime this week. PM me if you have any information that you think may help!!! I'm more than willing to help you out man!
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we should be able to use the cdt to edit one that you or dzk used though ive been thinking that its possible to use what ever you guys find that works for the dx2 for the mx2
Well everyone my phone is giving up the ghost. There are some unknown hardware failures that are causing massive power draw. Making the phone run hot with minimal processor use and the battery life has plummeted to going from full charge to empty in an hour or so. Charging is almost impossible because of this. I'm gonna try and get the kexec done before it fails completely.
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Theoretically have the kernels prepared to compile for base use and work. No display, wifi, ect. Will get around to compiling the kernel aand kexec command and tools eventually. Though I'm stuck at a stand still till I can somehow get the proper ATAGS.
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I did not find mention of ATAGs in the following PDFs: Tegra2 Ref. Manual and Tegra2 Embedded Controller interface spec. There is allot of info to those manuals, quite a bit I do not understand. Do you have access to these manuals? I have them and a few notes (pages) "Tegra Boot Flow". They would probably be of some assistance to you or may reveal a different attack vector to achieve kexec2.
On a unrelated rant note I have hung on to CheeseCake and check yest and nothing.... (I Use it When SBF, ROm'n) I am still furious with Moto, hell if a no name brand tablet at K-Mart can have 512MB ram and Ice Cream or Jelly.... wtf
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I did not find mention of ATAGs in the following PDFs: Tegra2 Ref. Manual and Tegra2 Embedded Controller interface spec. There is allot of info to those manuals, quite a bit I do not understand. Do you have access to these manuals? I have them and a few notes (pages) "Tegra Boot Flow". They would probably be of some assistance to you or may reveal a different attack vector to achieve kexec2.
On a unrelated rant note I have hung on to CheeseCake and check yest and nothing.... (I Use it When SBF, ROm'n) I am still furious with Moto, hell if a no name brand tablet at K-Mart can have 512MB ram and Ice Cream or Jelly.... wtf
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I'm a registered tegra developer through nvidia, so I have the documents. I just haven't spent along time reading through them. Ill go back through when I get the chance. As for cheesecakeing its not worth it for our phone anymore. If there was something to be found it would have been found by now.
On a side note hard drive failed so I've been set back a bit. My phone still lives but is still coming apart at the seems. And I won't be able to test the headphone Jack for sound out put as mine has failed completely.
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I'm a registered tegra developer through nvidia, so I have the documents. I just haven't spent along time reading through them. Ill go back through when I get the chance. As for cheesecakeing its not worth it for our phone anymore. If there was something to be found it would have been found by now.
On a side note hard drive failed so I've been set back a bit. My phone still lives but is still coming apart at the seems. And I won't be able to test the headphone Jack for sound out put as mine has failed completely.
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I figured that with cheese, but hell "sun shines on dogs ass once n a while". lol
The manuals are an interesting read, sometimes boring or stressful. Have held onto mine for awhile and its still in like new condition. Just think it could be a killer phone! Read a new article mentioning a NEW law passed allowing cell unlocking and the tools behind it. (Reversal of Library of Congress)
But I wish you good luck!