MX2 2.3.6 Kexec DevelopmentPlease keep this thread clean and used for primarily development purposes.
Things to do
Make test kernel
Atags
Compile Kexec
Compile Kexec tools
Make JB kernel
test compatibility other roms
Make compatible rom
(if compatible with other rom) create write up for working with other roms
create write up for using kexec and kexec made rom
Things that are progressing
*test kernel
*JB kernel
Things That are done
Nothing yet
Links:
not much here at the moment if you want to take a look at a fairly empty github
MX2 Kexec tools & modules
MX2 JB Kernel
resevered for possible change log
and again for possible instructions
ah ha! the kernel verson 3.8_rc3 has native tegra support!!! now to try and get the drivers for the rest of the hardware integrated.
Lrs121 said:
ah ha! the kernel verson 3.8_rc3 has native tegra support!!! now to try and get the drivers for the rest of the hardware integrated.
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Is this good news? lol
I don't know just figured it means someone has something up there sleeve
Sounds like a new kernel for the mx2
don't be scared it's only a phone
ogd x d2g x2 sg3
old ladies ^
Oh it's not bad news it just means that my job just got a little easier. That however doesn't mean that it'll work right off the bat or that I can get everything working at once. Not to mention its stability might be questionable but it should work
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is development of kexec relevant to droid x2 users at all
Xb0i said:
is development of kexec relevant to droid x2 users at all
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Yes and no there are things that are different between the mx2 and dx2 the kexec tools and command will mostly likely be useable between the two along with the kernel except for a few differences like the wifi, but the pointer for where the kexec is supposed to load the kernel is different most likely
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Theoretically have the kernels prepared to compile for base use and work. No display, wifi, ect. Will get around to compiling the kernel aand kexec command and tools eventually. Though I'm stuck at a stand still till I can somehow get the proper ATAGS.
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in the mean time i shall be working on getting files and stuff transfered for backup on github for anyone who wishes to take a look. and just an update for everyone work on this will essentially stop as of now. not just cause i dont have the atags but because of life (aka. school, work, ect.)
I got around to talking to my inside Guy at my carrier. The Guy who made the kernel swap is not comfortable letting people outside the company have it but to let me know that it is possible to do I just have to figure out how.
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Lrs121 said:
I got around to talking to my inside Guy at my carrier. The Guy who made the kernel swap is not comfortable letting people outside the company have it but to let me know that it is possible to do I just have to figure out how.
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Is there anything I/the rest of the community can do to help out?
Booga Booga said:
Is there anything I/the rest of the community can do to help out?
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research. i have what i need... i think i just need more information. and i need to get a hold of twitish and see if he can create some atags for us using the cdt.bin i have and seeing what we can do with that. after i get far enough im gonna need testers and thats where anyone who wants to voulenteer their time and risk sbfing thier phones come in to play. right now im just stuck cause i havent compiled the kexec command and tools and kernel to run on the tegra processor and i dont have the atags for memory location for inserting the new kernel in to runing memory. till i get around to doing those things this is where were gonna be.
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research. i have what i need... i think i just need more information. and i need to get a hold of twitish and see if he can create some atags for us using the cdt.bin i have and seeing what we can do with that. after i get far enough im gonna need testers and thats where anyone who wants to voulenteer their time and risk sbfing thier phones come in to play. right now im just stuck cause i havent compiled the kexec command and tools and kernel to run on the tegra processor and i dont have the atags for memory location for inserting the new kernel in to runing memory. till i get around to doing those things this is where were gonna be.
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Oh hey! Glad to see you're working hard on this kexec!!!
Now, I hate to be a negative nancy, but the CDT.bin doesn't hold the entire ATAG... You would somehow need to get one from the device itself (or in our case, edit them from another phone to our needs). To be honest, I haven't really looked much at kexec these past few weeks, but I should be able to start back up sometime this week. PM me if you have any information that you think may help!!! I'm more than willing to help you out man!
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Oh hey! Glad to see you're working hard on this kexec!!!
Now, I hate to be a negative nancy, but the CDT.bin doesn't hold the entire ATAG... You would somehow need to get one from the device itself (or in our case, edit them from another phone to our needs). To be honest, I haven't really looked much at kexec these past few weeks, but I should be able to start back up sometime this week. PM me if you have any information that you think may help!!! I'm more than willing to help you out man!
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we should be able to use the cdt to edit one that you or dzk used though ive been thinking that its possible to use what ever you guys find that works for the dx2 for the mx2
Well everyone my phone is giving up the ghost. There are some unknown hardware failures that are causing massive power draw. Making the phone run hot with minimal processor use and the battery life has plummeted to going from full charge to empty in an hour or so. Charging is almost impossible because of this. I'm gonna try and get the kexec done before it fails completely.
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Theoretically have the kernels prepared to compile for base use and work. No display, wifi, ect. Will get around to compiling the kernel aand kexec command and tools eventually. Though I'm stuck at a stand still till I can somehow get the proper ATAGS.
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I did not find mention of ATAGs in the following PDFs: Tegra2 Ref. Manual and Tegra2 Embedded Controller interface spec. There is allot of info to those manuals, quite a bit I do not understand. Do you have access to these manuals? I have them and a few notes (pages) "Tegra Boot Flow". They would probably be of some assistance to you or may reveal a different attack vector to achieve kexec2.
On a unrelated rant note I have hung on to CheeseCake and check yest and nothing.... (I Use it When SBF, ROm'n) I am still furious with Moto, hell if a no name brand tablet at K-Mart can have 512MB ram and Ice Cream or Jelly.... wtf
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I did not find mention of ATAGs in the following PDFs: Tegra2 Ref. Manual and Tegra2 Embedded Controller interface spec. There is allot of info to those manuals, quite a bit I do not understand. Do you have access to these manuals? I have them and a few notes (pages) "Tegra Boot Flow". They would probably be of some assistance to you or may reveal a different attack vector to achieve kexec2.
On a unrelated rant note I have hung on to CheeseCake and check yest and nothing.... (I Use it When SBF, ROm'n) I am still furious with Moto, hell if a no name brand tablet at K-Mart can have 512MB ram and Ice Cream or Jelly.... wtf
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I'm a registered tegra developer through nvidia, so I have the documents. I just haven't spent along time reading through them. Ill go back through when I get the chance. As for cheesecakeing its not worth it for our phone anymore. If there was something to be found it would have been found by now.
On a side note hard drive failed so I've been set back a bit. My phone still lives but is still coming apart at the seems. And I won't be able to test the headphone Jack for sound out put as mine has failed completely.
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I'm a registered tegra developer through nvidia, so I have the documents. I just haven't spent along time reading through them. Ill go back through when I get the chance. As for cheesecakeing its not worth it for our phone anymore. If there was something to be found it would have been found by now.
On a side note hard drive failed so I've been set back a bit. My phone still lives but is still coming apart at the seems. And I won't be able to test the headphone Jack for sound out put as mine has failed completely.
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I figured that with cheese, but hell "sun shines on dogs ass once n a while". lol
The manuals are an interesting read, sometimes boring or stressful. Have held onto mine for awhile and its still in like new condition. Just think it could be a killer phone! Read a new article mentioning a NEW law passed allowing cell unlocking and the tools behind it. (Reversal of Library of Congress)
But I wish you good luck!
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We are starting a new thread as we enter a new phase of development.
We are beyond confident @ this point that we are where we need to be. We are now working on new init.rc and init.mapphone_cdma.rc that will be able to boot a cm7 atrix nightly.
As of now we only have aceoyame working on these and wish to solicit ideas from those who may be more experienced or who have a keen eye for the obvious.
We will be test flashing this first run shortly. Lets keep this thread clean. We are expecting only comments relating to the new .rc's or pointing out obvious shortcomings of our method.
Expect a test flash to be posted here shortly so others can try along.
So without further ado... here are the initial versions of the inits as modified by aceoyame..
init.mapphone_cdma.rc http://pastebin.com/N3CFNrBX
init.rc http://pastebin.com/KdpL6eKC
Help and comments are welcome...
If you apprecieate our work please hit THANKS on the appropriate post to let us know you guys care and to keep the thread un-cluttered. So far with the other threads it seems we only have about 20 or so users who are looking forward to this.
There is an excellent thread here.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1372293 started by ashclepdia that can be used for speculation, thanks, etc...
Thanks again to the many users here for helping during the sbf flashing phase.. we may need your help again soon.
And last but not least thanks again to dragonzkiller for taking the time from his busy schedule to get us past the last hurtle.
So fu$king excited! Thanks guys!
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While reading init.mapphone_cdma.rc i noticed like 3 mount points referencing yaffs2. From what I understood, yaffs2 isn't supported by the X2. That was the only glaring thing I saw so far.
Keep up the great work
Edit: Everyone, Please lets keep on topic. If you have any questions or you want to say thanks please use this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1372293
We need to keep this topic clean for the sake of development.
Thanks
can someone explain whats this for and what it does?
Does it improve something?
Makes my phone faster?
Last longer?
Took better photo and video?
Better sound quality?
Tnx
raclimja said:
can someone explain whats this for and what it does?
Does it improve something?
Makes my phone faster?
Last longer?
Took better photo and video?
Better sound quality?
Tnx
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Well in an EXTREMELY broad overview, all this work that these fine gentleman are doing will take the lid off the jar of the x2. And when they are finished we will finally be able to port over miui and cm7 and many other roms for the x2. I super excited for miui... love u ace
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Well in an EXTREMELY broad overview, all this work that these fine gentleman are doing will take the lid off the jar of the x2. And when they are finished we will finally be able to port over miui and cm7 and many other roms for the x2. I super excited for miui... love u ace
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STATUS UPDATE
Well after numerous tries with variations on those inits we still have no sucessfull boot. Gonna try again tomorrow with some new inits.
Gonna keep @ this till we get somewhere..
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Put the phone down and back away! Haha I'm extremely excited about this I'm desiring to see a cyan droid spinning on my boot screen I only wish I knew more so I could be of some help top make this happen like yesterday. Im very thankful to all that are making this happen this forum will explode once this comes out LIKE BOOM
To the ones who like to clutter the thread (over half of this thread isn't relevant) and you know who you are please just only hit the thanks button. Even the OP has a link for people who can't stay on topic. This is necessary
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This is me asking for all of the x2 devs to pitch in and help with CM now that we have 2nd init going. The thing holding us back atm is our init scripts, the one were using bombs out shortly before boot animation (before adb runs) any help would be awesome!
Do you have link to CM7 including 2nd init you are testing with?
I want to push it into my phone when I get a chance this weekend and see whether I can help.
Thanks.
Well its a new day.. and i begin my holliday break.. Gonna spend a good bit of it working on this. I have some new approaches I am going to try today. Hopfully we can get some good information from the upcoming tests.
Do you have link to CM7 including 2nd init you are testing with?
I want to push it into my phone when I get a chance this weekend and see whether I can help.
Thanks.
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We intend to release a testing package shortly, once it is logging some sort of usefull data for us. In its current conditions it is not very informative. Rather then spending time getting people up to speed on it.. i am gonna try to get it to a point that it is more useful and self explanatory.
Ideally someone with more experience booting on second init devices will come along and give us a nudge to speed things up
In the meantime i have re-written our hijack to work along side our current X2 bootstap so that will save us some sbf time.
Hang in there.. We are getting close. Thanks for everyones support.
Probably should've posted this earlier, but I have a fairly powerful system. I could compile for you guys.
(I'd need to know what to install, since I haven't compiled a ROM before)
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mastafunk said:
Well its a new day.. and i begin my holliday break.. Gonna spend a good bit of it working on this. I have some new approaches I am going to try today. Hopfully we can get some good information from the upcoming tests.
We intend to release a testing package shortly, once it is logging some sort of usefull data for us. In its current conditions it is not very informative. Rather then spending time getting people up to speed on it.. i am gonna try to get it to a point that it is more useful and self explanatory.
Ideally someone with more experience booting on second init devices will come along and give us a nudge to speed things up
In the meantime i have re-written our hijack to work along side our current X2 bootstap so that will save us some sbf time.
Hang in there.. We are getting close. Thanks for everyones support.
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So I take it the script I sent you over helped a lot? It's good to see that! If you're guys' init script works I can patch them into an actual CM7 build for the X2 (So that we can have a device config, and eventually nightlies for it).
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Probably should've posted this earlier, but I have a fairly powerful system. I could compile for you guys.
(I'd need to know what to install, since I haven't compiled a ROM before)
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Don't worry about trying to compile anything yet. For a few reasons:
They're only patching an ATRIX build, not compiling yet
We don't have a full device setup for the X2 (i'm working on that now)
My computer is more than powerful enough to start releasing office DX2-Dev-Team betas from the repo, so don't worry about compiling yet
I will be on irc @ #X2-AOSP all night for the specific discussion of this thread.
So after a late night in IRC we managed to past 1 of the 2 hurdles we were trying to solve. Thanks to all that helped.
We were able to get some logcat action going!!
One more hurdle to pass and we are going to be VERY CLOSE.
Thanks again for those that were up late night working on this..
Which hurdle?
Tapped from my tweaked out DX2
Which hurdle?
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answered in the post above yours..
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We were able to get some logcat action going!!
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Duh moment lol,
Tapped from my tweaked out DX2
is this the lockboot loader you guys are trying to crack?
If so, would this allow people to install or port ics? or copy the fix for blue tint on camera on droid 3?
Tnx
The good old Smiley, to make the reading happier:
I am looking for suggestions.
What could I use my Lapdock for, now that I made the switch to CyanogenMod?
Is there a good solution for making the VNC'ed ARM Ubuntu (look for Ubuntu Installer in the Play Store) work better with the touchpad? Should I sell it? Is there a solution to make remote control apps such as TeamViewer or Splashtop integrate with the Lapdock's keyboard and touchpad? Is there any way to make the device switch to Tablet mode without rebooting? That would be rather interesting to see. By the way, the CM9 ROM I am currently running has got Landscape HDMI working flawlessly, so that should not be an issue...
PS: Please do not ignore this thread. Any suggestions are welcome! (Use your common sense though)
The good old Smiley, to leave a good impression:
Proudly sent from my Atrix™ (call him William) using xda premium
I've struggled with the same question on my photon.. If there's working hdmi rotation on your CM, you can still use it for typing out documents,etc. I also used the mirror mode to watch movies on a larger(than phone) screen in bed.
But eventually I just decided to go back to a blur rom and use ubuntop (which is awesome) while waiting for official ICS and someone hopefully porting ubuntu 12.04 to webtop..
Paranoid Android Rom
I don't understand why canonical hasn't leaked that awesome ubuntudroid system they showed off.. there isn't an easier way to get feedback especially since webtop has died and windows 8 is pushing hard into that whole 'blur the lines' market
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aaron.a;[URL="tel:31083061" said:
31083061[/URL]]I don't understand why canonical hasn't leaked that awesome ubuntudroid system they showed off.. there isn't an easier way to get feedback especially since webtop has died and windows 8 is pushing hard into that whole 'blur the lines' market
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Maybe they are waiting for the unified linux/android kernel 3.4 this would most certainly make it easier to port and updates trivial.
kurtcocaine said:
I've struggled with the same question on my photon.. If there's working hdmi rotation on your CM, you can still use it for typing out documents,etc. I also used the mirror mode to watch movies on a larger(than phone) screen in bed.
But eventually I just decided to go back to a blur rom and use ubuntop (which is awesome) while waiting for official ICS and someone hopefully porting ubuntu 12.04 to webtop..
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Hello friend, I did the same thing you did, go back to blur....but now I am stuck in the original ubuntop, I mean I can not install all the apps needed to be a fully working laptop....could you help me with it?. I can not understant the steps in the webtop original thread.
you can use it as a gift....for me!....
from the (m)ATRIX...
Cocolopes said:
you can use it as a gift....for me!....
from the (m)ATRIX...
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Made me laugh out loud!
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WARNING: Massive multi-reply...
kurtcocaine said:
I've struggled with the same question on my photon.. If there's working hdmi rotation on your CM, you can still use it for typing out documents,etc. I also used the mirror mode to watch movies on a larger(than phone) screen in bed.
But eventually I just decided to go back to a blur rom and use ubuntop (which is awesome) while waiting for official ICS and someone hopefully porting ubuntu 12.04 to webtop..
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Currently, I use it for watching movies as well, and I am looking forward to pairing a Wii Remote and/or a DualShock® 3 to my Atrix™, so that I can play some games such as GTA III and Shadowgun (Max Payne *-*) on the big screen.
I was happy with Blur until the day I ran into that tempting CM9 thread. I did not know what smoothness and responsiveness really were. Blur was the smoothest I thought it could ever get... But I was wrong, and now I have to choose between fluidity and Webtop. :thumbdown:
I actually went back to Blur some months ago, but unfortunately, prolonged use of ICS can cause dependence. Believe it or not, I was pretty happy with Blur. Webtop was working flawlessly, I even had BackTrack installed, but then came the relapse: I could no longer resist to ICS. I am now back to CM9, and with it comes my dilemma...
I am looking for a way to use the Atrix™ as a more desktop-ish platform when docked (especially to the Lapdock). I believe the ideal would be Ubuntu through a local VNC client, or a remote desktop app, I just wish they would play nicer with the keyboard and touchpad...
Basically, something like a key mapper (easy-to-use, I am still unable to figure out WiiMoteController's key mapping scheme) for Lapdock's hardware. We could make a keyboard-powered Ouya!
What still concerns me though, is that games would not be optimized for it e.g. Minecraft PE, games where the camera angle for example, is controlled by dragging the screen, so it would have to be a really powerful, but easy-to-use key mapper, and since you can't have everything in life, I'm afraid I'm asking for much...
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Paranoid Android Rom
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What I understand from your reply is that the Paranoid Android ROM could put my Lapdock back to use. But what is the Paranoid Android ROM? What makes it different from other ROMs? How could it (at least partially) solve my problem?
Please be more specific.
aaron.a said:
I don't understand why canonical hasn't leaked that awesome ubuntudroid system they showed off.. there isn't an easier way to get feedback especially since webtop has died and windows 8 is pushing hard into that whole 'blur the lines' market
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When the official Ubuntu for Android was announced, even though an Atrix 2 was used for the hands-on part, on the project's official hotsite... It was clearly an Atrix™ 4G standing there on the dock. The differences between our device's design and the Atrix 2's or the Defy's (Defy+'s) are not that obvious, but they are, indeed, noticeable.
You do know what that means, don't you? It means it is almost certain that our device will be on the first batch of officially supported devices!
I don't if the Atrix™ is still there, but if it's not, I can try to find the screenshot I took if you'd like.
I am so proud! :beer:
tomh235 said:
Maybe they are waiting for the unified linux/android kernel 3.4 this would most certainly make it easier to port and updates trivial.
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What do you mean? It would have to be ported to each supported device anyway, wouldn't it?
Sir_gpm said:
Hello friend, I did the same thing you did, go back to blur....but now I am stuck in the original ubuntop, I mean I can not install all the apps needed to be a fully working laptop....could you help me with it?. I can not understant the steps in the webtop original thread.
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I have never thought I'd say this but, "Please don't get off-topic". I'd appreciate it if this gets settled in a new thread or via PM.
Anyway, you said "stock UbunTop", I could be wrong, but I think it's either stock or UbunTop, which is a mod born right here on our neighbor forum, Android Development.
If yours is really stock, I suggest you get BackTrack from the BackTop project, I don't it's got aircrack built-in, and I was unable to install it, so unless you're an experienced hacker, don't get too excited with BackTrack's features, but my point is: It is amazingly faster than Webtop, it seems lighter, I used to be able to run more than 3 different apps simultaneously...
If yours is really running UbunTop I'm afraid I cannot assist you, since webtop2sd never worked for me and BackTop and WebtopMOD were the only I could ever manage to get working on my device...
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you can use it as a gift....for me!....
from the (m)ATRIX...
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Hahaha
Nice one. I'll think about it though... Hehe
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gabriel_feo said:
What I understand from your reply is that the Paranoid Android ROM could put my Lapdock back to use. But what is the Paranoid Android ROM? What makes it different from other ROMs? How could it (at least partially) solve my problem?
Please be more specific.
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I can answer this. What he meant is that you should use Paranoid. Paranoid is a rom thats an hybrid of a phone an a tablet, in short words, you can activate tablet mode for some apps, while some other apps still run in phone-mode, for the ease of use.
What I actually meant was to give a name and a designation, which I did.
Google paranoid android rom and you get the website, the website has a much better explanation then I could or should have to provide.
But yes in short it can give you a tablet UI on lapdock.
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I can answer this. What he meant is that you should use Paranoid. Paranoid is a rom thats an hybrid of a phone an a tablet, in short words, you can activate tablet mode for some apps, while some other apps still run in phone-mode, for the ease of use.
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Random Canadian said:
What I actually meant was to give a name and a designation, which I did.
Google paranoid android rom and you get the website, the website has a much better explanation then I could or should have to provide.
But yes in short it can give you a tablet UI on lapdock.
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I did before you guys answered and after I posted my reply, and was about to post an apology to you, my friend (Random Canadian).
Sometimes my brain takes just way too long to figure some things out...
I am sorry.
Anyway, thank you very much! This might just solve it all!
>>>>> But even if it works for me, please don't stop sharing your ideas! <<<<<
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I did before you guys answered and after I posted my reply, and was about to post an apology to you, my friend (Random Canadian).
Sometimes my brain takes just way too long to figure some things out...
I am sorry.
Anyway, thank you very much! This might just solve it all!
>>>>> But even if it works for me, please don't stop sharing your ideas! <<<<<
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So no gift for me? ... hahaha... just a joke... glad you solve it...
from the (m)ATRIX...
Is it possible to get paranoid android on the lap dock in native resolution?(1376)
http://www.jonobacon.org/2012/10/26/ubuntu-core-on-the-nexus-7/
Looks like we might have a good chance at a good stable build of ubuntu.Since the nexus 7 shares almost all the main components with our prime.
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http://www.jonobacon.org/2012/10/26/ubuntu-core-on-the-nexus-7/
Looks like we might have a good chance at a good stable build of ubuntu.Since the nexus 7 shares almost all the main components with our prime.
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Fingers crossed !!
Lilstevie has been working on a version but its very very secretive and i'm not sure he has much time to do it now.
sounds good. can't wait to have it :fingers-crossed:
that would be great to have Ubuntu running naively on the prime!!
I can't wait. Running with chroot and vnc is not the same and it gets sluggish
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Fingers crossed !!
Lilstevie has been working on a version but its very very secretive and i'm not sure he has much time to do it now.
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you are confusing secretive with lacking in time. Some things don't get shared, because otherwise everyone bugs me about it, and the little time I do have for things ends up being eaten up by those people. Other things don't get shared because they are simply tests that may or may not even pan out.
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you are confusing secretive with lacking in time. Some things don't get shared, because otherwise everyone bugs me about it, and the little time I do have for things ends up being eaten up by those people. Other things don't get shared because they are simply tests that may or may not even pan out.
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Naa i appreciate your busy matey, i know your at uni and doing other things its just whenever anyone asks about the Ubuntu project its usually met with silence.
I honestly think you should start your own thread about your project and update whenever you have the time etc ... i know there are some members that just want want want, but theres plenty that would support your work and be greatful that your just trying your best ... hey no one else can do it !
My comment wasnt ment to be a flame, i'm patiently waiting myself for anything you can come up with, its just sometimes i'd love to know how far your getting etc
tbh i've been desperate to get ubuntu on this thing since i bought it... now i've bought a new laptop, i barely use it anymore.
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Naa i appreciate your busy matey, i know your at uni and doing other things its just whenever anyone asks about the Ubuntu project its usually met with silence.
I honestly think you should start your own thread about your project and update whenever you have the time etc ... i know there are some members that just want want want, but theres plenty that would support your work and be greatful that your just trying your best ... hey no one else can do it !
My comment wasnt ment to be a flame, i'm patiently waiting myself for anything you can come up with, its just sometimes i'd love to know how far your getting etc
tbh i've been desperate to get ubuntu on this thing since i bought it... now i've bought a new laptop, i barely use it anymore.
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I didn't interpret what you said as a flame, I was just "going on record" so to speak The development cycle is rather unique due to the device specificities so I have been avoiding creating a new thread so I can keep focused on that. I will be creating a thread soon(tm) for a preview build though (no eta).
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I didn't interpret what you said as a flame, I was just "going on record" so to speak The development cycle is rather unique due to the device specificities so I have been avoiding creating a new thread so I can keep focused on that. I will be creating a thread soon(tm) for a preview build though (no eta).
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This shouldn't be too hard I hope. Considering the prime and n7 share almost everything. The rear cam/keyboard and microsd might be issues. But the kernel may just pickup the cam/microsd.
zanzee said:
This shouldn't be too hard I hope. Considering the prime and n7 share almost everything. The rear cam/keyboard and microsd might be issues. But the kernel may just pickup the cam/microsd.
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no, they are not similar devices, they share a cpu/gpu combo, that is pretty much the end of it.
One question it always bug me. When canonical first started to talk about their project some people mention it would be like an app you download out of the market. But if a new kernel is needed, that's not possible, right? The pad would even need to be unlocked.
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One question it always bug me. When canonical first started to talk about their project some people mention it would be like an app you download out of the market. But if a new kernel is needed, that's not possible, right? The pad would even need to be unlocked.
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Most likely yes. Most users looking for Ubuntu are probably unlocked considering that usually flashing anything besides an update requires unlocking.
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One question it always bug me. When canonical first started to talk about their project some people mention it would be like an app you download out of the market. But if a new kernel is needed, that's not possible, right? The pad would even need to be unlocked.
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Canonical said no such thing, ubuntu-on-android is something entirely different to this, it works much like splashtop does on the atrix. They also never said that end users would be able to access it from the play store, it requires being integrated by OEMs.
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Canonical said no such thing, ubuntu-on-android is something entirely different to this, it works much like splashtop does on the atrix. They also never said that end users would be able to access it from the play store, it requires being integrated by OEMs.
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I wasn't clear, what I meant is that after canonical's anoncement I heard rumors from random people talking about that. And that always bugged me cuz I couldn't figure out how would they pull that off. But what u said makes more sense.
So as I understand it, the Photon has drivers issues which is why we dont have a port of for instant a droid bionic version of moto ICS, or moto jellybean. I am wondering what we need to get a kernel going. If this happened this would open up the possibility for doing webtop on a non stock rom.(Which I really would love cm 10.1 with ubuntop) I have been using linux for many years and am familiar with compiling and modifying kernels and packages I am just still new with android I came from the Epic 4G. I just would like to be pointed in the right direction or maybe someone who already makes kernels has attempted this and we could work together.
Thanks for your time.
You need source from Motorola and whatever company it was that Apple bought. You can try the Compendium thread for kernel links but as of now a new kernel is highly unlikely.
So then maybe we should look into writing our own? I mean if they can do it why can't we?
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So as I understand it, the Photon has drivers issues which is why we dont have a port of for instant a droid bionic version of moto ICS, or moto jellybean. I am wondering what we need to get a kernel going. If this happened this would open up the possibility for doing webtop on a non stock rom.(Which I really would love cm 10.1 with ubuntop) I have been using linux for many years and am familiar with compiling and modifying kernels and packages I am just still new with android I came from the Epic 4G. I just would like to be pointed in the right direction or maybe someone who already makes kernels has attempted this and we could work together.
Thanks for your time.
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There's a thread over in the Atrix 4G forums where some people are working on a port from the Galaxy R kernel. You may want to follow that thread and offer your assistence there, because chances are that any progress that benefits the Atrix will benefit the Photon in the long run.
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There's a thread over in the Atrix 4G forums where some people are working on a port from the Galaxy R kernel. You may want to follow that thread and offer your assistence there, because chances are that any progress that benefits the Atrix will benefit the Photon in the long run.
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In theory that is sound, but the Atrix has a much newer kernel version than ours from the start (not sure how that happened with our device being more recent release). If you're planning to try, make sure that you have device protection or a good number of devices to work with....they've already hard bricked one or two from what I had seen.
What drivers are required, and I assume you mean for a 3.x kernel?
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Unless you want to rev-eng a couple of parts of the kernel to make the GalaxyR kernel exaclty compatible with the Photon, you won't be able to use the stuff. Sorry.
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Unless you want to rev-eng a couple of parts of the kernel to make the GalaxyR kernel exaclty compatible with the Photon, you won't be able to use the stuff. Sorry.
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What ever happened to the magic kernel?
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What ever happened to the magic kernel?
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I was wondering the samething, have heard any news of it, he must not be able to release it.
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I was wondering the samething, have heard any news of it, he must not be able to release it.
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Yeah, he said he had something special for us, but never told us what it was.
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Yeah, he said he had something special for us, but never told us what it was.
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maybe, jut maybe some day it will be leaked.
after the screwing Moto gave us he might as well post it. wtf are they gonna do? lock our damn phones?
My guess is it just never panned out and the guy didn't want to disappoint us. This was around the time of the Atrix leak, and that never amounted to anything, and a bunch of people got let down. It's my theory, which is far from concrete, that the leak included Photon files as well, that also never amounted to anything, but less was said here, so fewer people will be let down. I'm personally not worried. Come whatever may. My phone may not be able to do MMS or camcorder, or run Chrome or Swiftkey Flow, but I like it. It does the things I want it to. And it looks sexy as hell. I'd appreciate this mystery kernel or whatever, but I'm not gonna lose sleep if some mad scientist is holding out. Not saying that's what cybik is (I actually don't know much about him), just saying neither of the two extremes affect me much. And they shouldn't affect y'all either. If you're locked I'm sorry, that sucks, so is my brother, but you can run Holo Launcher/Locker and use either utter!, Maluuba, or Dragon Go! for voice commands/personal assistant, Notification Toggle for, well, the toggles, and Dolphin for your browser, and that puts you fairly close to Android 4. Motoblur can't keep a WiFi lock to save its life, but there are apps for that... I'm trying to test one on my wife's phone, but I'm not getting very good data from it. If you're unlocked, you have a lot of good choices as it is.
I may be an Atrix owner, but if the 2.6.39.4 kernel that is being dev'd for the Atrix is a success, couldn't you take the post-dev'd 2.6.39.4 kernel and port it to the Photon?
Has anyone tried porting the stock, rooted, or otherwise Rom from the Nexus 4?
If no one has I will give it a shot. The two phones aren't all that different ours has the LTE on the chip set activated but I believe they have basically the same Qualcomm chip set.
Also if anyone knows more about it than I do feel free to inform me. I'm always up for a hacking adventure but I don't want to start something I'll never be able to finish.
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Has anyone tried porting the stock, rooted, or otherwise Rom from the Nexus 4?
If no one has I will give it a shot. The two phones aren't all that different ours has the LTE on the chip set activated but I believe they have basically the same Qualcomm chip set.
Also if anyone knows more about it than I do feel free to inform me. I'm always up for a hacking adventure but I don't want to start something I'll never be able to finish.
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Yea some people have tried but the kernel isn't working on the att model but give it a shot maybe you know a little more. I think a lot of people would appreciate it. Good luck
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Has anyone tried porting the stock, rooted, or otherwise Rom from the Nexus 4?
If no one has I will give it a shot. The two phones aren't all that different ours has the LTE on the chip set activated but I believe they have basically the same Qualcomm chip set.
Also if anyone knows more about it than I do feel free to inform me. I'm always up for a hacking adventure but I don't want to start something I'll never be able to finish.
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Apparently there is also a bunch of driver issues.
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Yea some people have tried but the kernel isn't working on the att model but give it a shot maybe you know a little more. I think a lot of people would appreciate it. Good luck
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I should figured AT&T would screw us like that. Man this is gonna take some work, but I certainly will give it a shot. This won't be my first port of a Rom but it'll be my first one where I've had to work on a Kernel. Wish me luck guys.
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I should figured AT&T would screw us like that. Man this is gonna take some work, but I certainly will give it a shot. This won't be my first port of a Rom but it'll be my first one where I've had to work on a Kernel. Wish me luck guys.
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Make it happen dude! If you need or want some help let me know. I have lots of free time
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Has anyone tried porting the stock, rooted, or otherwise Rom from the Nexus 4?
If no one has I will give it a shot. The two phones aren't all that different ours has the LTE on the chip set activated but I believe they have basically the same Qualcomm chip set.
Also if anyone knows more about it than I do feel free to inform me. I'm always up for a hacking adventure but I don't want to start something I'll never be able to finish.
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Head over to the IRC channel, #lg-optimus-g, most of the current developers are always on there and they will be more than willing to have someone new that has some experience and willingness to help!
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Head over to the IRC channel, #lg-optimus-g, most of the current developers are always on there and they will be more than willing to have someone new that has some experience and willingness to help!
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I believe I've found a sort of attempt at what I'm looking to do.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2099784
This essentially turns the phone into a Nexus 4 so that essentially the firmware is tricked into thinking that our phone is the Nexus 4. It appears as if in order to put vanilla android on here I'll need to take pieces of this hack, and sort of finish it. Like getting the Capacitive buttons working, which will require a bit of kernel hacking. It appears as if reflashing the modem, which I think after I take apart the original firmware I can sort of shove in there, will fix the LTE, so says the post, and the issue of the SD card. This method may be more intensive than is necessary. However it's looking like this is all I've got to work with as of right now.
I'm going to try and make a Rom that's still ICS and as close to Vanilla as is possible, then I'll give moving it up to Jelly Bean a shot. Also this may take a while as I am in college, and I've only got a small amount of experience so this will sort of be a learning experience for me.
Also I'm not too familiar with using IRC. I'm used to doing stuff on my own. For my original Android phone, the HTC Inspire. The dev community over there was awesome, they're probably still going, but I'm more used to taking a base like CM 9 or CM 10 nightlies and making them my own for my phone. So this will be a hacking adventure. A hackventure if you will.
CrazyLineman777 said:
I believe I've found a sort of attempt at what I'm looking to do.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2099784
This essentially turns the phone into a Nexus 4 so that essentially the firmware is tricked into thinking that our phone is the Nexus 4. It appears as if in order to put vanilla android on here I'll need to take pieces of this hack, and sort of finish it. Like getting the Capacitive buttons working, which will require a bit of kernel hacking. It appears as if reflashing the modem, which I think after I take apart the original firmware I can sort of shove in there, will fix the LTE, so says the post, and the issue of the SD card. This method may be more intensive than is necessary. However it's looking like this is all I've got to work with as of right now.
I'm going to try and make a Rom that's still ICS and as close to Vanilla as is possible, then I'll give moving it up to Jelly Bean a shot. Also this may take a while as I am in college, and I've only got a small amount of experience so this will sort of be a learning experience for me.
Also I'm not too familiar with using IRC. I'm used to doing stuff on my own. For my original Android phone, the HTC Inspire. The dev community over there was awesome, they're probably still going, but I'm more used to taking a base like CM 9 or CM 10 nightlies and making them my own for my phone. So this will be a hacking adventure. A hackventure if you will.
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SD Card requires ramdisk edits too
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