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Hey Fellas,
I'm currently an iPad 2 user. I have a Galaxy S phone (which I love) and won't give it up for an iPhone. I was considering buying a Tab... but I didn't have much of a choice when the iPad 2 came out.
Today I ran into a Galaxy Tab 10.1 (it was AMAZING) and I'm thinking about returning my iPad 2.
Would anyone recommend this?
I love the Android OS. I chose the iOS because of the amount of useful school/work apps it has. [IT field].
Another question is... does anyone here own both [or tried both the iPad 2 AND the G Tab]? I have to say that the iPad 2 keyboard was much smoother than the Galaxy Tab.
I tried it quick.. I didn't have much time to play with it. I thought the keyboard wasn't as fast.
How about school/IT apps?
Thanks in advance!
My mom have the iPad 2 and I love Honeycomb but when compared to iOS its missing a whole lot, especially on apps.
Honeycomb is a new OS for tablets and I see it growing in the future and apps are slowly being ported and optimized for Honeycomb tablets. iOS has been in the market for a while and honeycomb has got some catching up to do.
Buy a tablet for what it is now instead of expecting something out of it and just getting frustrated waiting for an app. I bout a zune HD thinking it will go toe to toe with the iPod touch but was just disappointed and ended up selling it and buying the iPod touch.
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Other than the infamous lag when typing in forums, keyboard speed is fine in every application I've used so far. For some the forum thing is a big deal, and I've worked around it for now by using a remote desktop app if I really feel the need to post an essay using the tab, but obviously that isn't ideal.
As for the keyboard itself, there are plenty to choose from. Swiftkey, Thumb Keyboard and Swype are all excellent alternatives if you don't like the stock HC keyboard or the Samsung one.
The tab comes with Quick Office pre-installed and that will do the job if you want to take notes and read documents. There are about a half dozen office suites and each have their pro's and con's, if you want to learn more about them there is a good comparison thread over at the Asus Transformer forums. They all have a ways to go though before they're suitable for real work with documents however.
For IT, I imagine apps like LogMeIn, Wyse Pocket Cloud, Overlook Fing, andSMB, SharesFinder, ASProxy, Connect Bot, etc would be useful.
to give you an honest answer stick with the Ipad. Everyone on here will try to give you a reach around about why the TAB is so great. But quite frankly in its current state its not. I'm typing this on my tab right now and am getting pissed that my words are showing up well after I press the keys. There are NO USEFULL ANDROID TABLET APPS available at this time. You want proof. Go to the marketplace and see if you van even tell the difference between what is a table app and what isn't. Some tablet apps even have disclaimers stating they aren't even compatible with the GT yet. I purchased my tab because I'm believing in the Modding community will one day provide me with the goodies I crave for use on what is a very (hardware) capable device. But if you want somethingthat just works right now... get an IPAD.
I am still so much on the fence about the GT 10.1 I have a hard time even trying to formulate a reply to this. As I think I go back and forth every 5 minutes.
GT 10.1
+ Android is open, open file system, third party app stores/markets.
+ Wide screen display, higher resolution, and stereo speakers great for videos.
+ Highly customizable with widgets.
+ XDA community usually does great job with custom ROMs.
+ Google apps and Amazon CloudDrive and App Store are great.
- Android 3 is a rush job, screen response not great (not bad either), keyboard lag.
- App crashes and random reboots rare, but happen more than they should.
- Tablet app select still small, and Android app versions sometimes inferior to iOS.
- Uncertainty when Samsung might push the Android 4.0 update, they've been ver slow in the past.
- No Netflix
iPad 2 (I own an iPad 1, so this is mostly about iOS)
+ Over a year head start in tablets, lots of quality apps.
+ iOS versions of some apps are better, Tweetdeck, Tune In Radio, Taptu, etc.
+ Netflix, Hulu Plus (don't care for Hulu, but really miss Netflix on my GT 10.1)
+ iOS very responsive and smooth.
+ Square screen ratio nice for browsing, ebooks.
+ Apple makes software and hardware, so dependable updates.
- No file system access, must use iTunes (usually) to transfer files.
- Google, YouTube apps sucks on iOS.
- No third party application markets (no good Jailbreak for iPad 2, so no Cydia).
- Lower res display, 512MB of RAM.
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Hey Fellas,
I'm currently an iPad 2 user. I have a Galaxy S phone (which I love) and won't give it up for an iPhone. I was considering buying a Tab... but I didn't have much of a choice when the iPad 2 came out.
Today I ran into a Galaxy Tab 10.1 (it was AMAZING) and I'm thinking about returning my iPad 2.
Would anyone recommend this?
I love the Android OS. I chose the iOS because of the amount of useful school/work apps it has. [IT field].
Another question is... does anyone here own both [or tried both the iPad 2 AND the G Tab]? I have to say that the iPad 2 keyboard was much smoother than the Galaxy Tab.
I tried it quick.. I didn't have much time to play with it. I thought the keyboard wasn't as fast.
How about school/IT apps?
Thanks in advance!
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Hello!
My friend owns the iPad/iPad 2 and I use them regularly when I'm at his house as he has multiple. I own a Galaxy Tab 7" and 10.1 myself. Here's my personal opinion:
The iPad had a significant build quality difference between it and the 7" Tab. The Galaxy Tab 10.1 corrects this, but it's still very difficult to beat a uniform metal structure versus a plastic one. This will boil down to whether you prefer a higher build quality, or a lighter device. The 10.1 is way lighter, the iPad 2's build quality is better.
As far as applications go... iOS tablet-centric apps blows Android out of the water. There is no denying this. You can still get any application you need on both platforms, but the higher resolution ones on the iPad are way more numerous. Here's to hoping this changes soon for Honeycomb.
As far as operating systems go... Honeycomb is ages beyond iOS in terms of a more desktop-like feel on a Tablet and less of a phone-like feel. iOS 5 does little to correct this. You will find the OS itself much more pleasant on a Honeycomb tablet.
Hardware: The processor in the iPad 2 is fast. The processor in the Galaxy Tab 10.1 is fast. I don't see any speed differences between the two, except for the browser. The lead Google put in Android 2.2 shows heavily with the UI optimized for Tablets. Also, the Tegra 2 processor is the first processor I can say having Flash is a definitive advantage. I can stream HD videos from Flash sources on the web (ABC, Crunchyroll, etc) with very little to no stuttering. Props to NVidia here. I could probably do a video for you, if you were interested.
The back camera on the Galaxy Tab 10.1 is far superior, though I don't think you'll be using it very often when cameras on phones are smaller and easier to use. Just my opinion.
Last but not least: I really dislike the iPad (iOS 4) and Google's default keyboard on Tablets. They are extremely hard to use while handling the device. I use Swiftkey Tablet X on my 7" and 10.1" Tab and LOVE it. If you keep your iPad 2 I really suggest you get iOS 5 on it to take advantage of the split keyboard effect. It makes typing far easier. If you do go back and get a Google-based Tab, drop their crappy keyboard and get Swiftkey X. It's in beta - I can send you the apk if you do end up going that route. Just PM me.
[Edit] Quick edit after reading Ravynmagi's post - not having Netflix is a HUGE HUGE bummer. There's no word on it coming to Honeycomb either, so don't hold your breath[/Edit]
I've had both. the iTampon 2 is riddled with screen problems. I wouldn't pay 500 bucks for it. It does have more apps... but let's be honest..... how many apps do you really need?
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I've had both. the iTampon 2 is riddled with screen problems. I wouldn't pay 500 bucks for it. It does have more apps... but let's be honest..... how many apps do you really need?
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That was the earlier batches though. I'm of the impression that has been resolved, hasn't it?
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That was the earlier batches though. I'm of the impression that has been resolved, hasn't it?
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Check the support forums at the Apple site. Sure hasn't.
I don't like Ipads. It feels like you are stuck into the app drawer forever.
Sure, there are tons of apps for tablets but everything else is below 10.1 standards.
It starts with the homescreen, over to multitasking abilities and ends in hardware.
And a 4:3 screen is a no go. Every media is made for 16:9 or 16:10, have fun watching movies on that. Ipad2 feels like an ancient TV.
And web without flash? Seriously? That also means no browser games which all are high resolution and made for PC !
Ipads are just for the fancy glamour aspect. The apps look better, for example ebook readers are nicer animated. But I am a purist, I don't want animations around my text, I want a nice and huge display. Why buy 10.1 if half of your screen is used up by showing virutal pages?
The fact that Honeycomb doesn't have many good apps and Tegra 2 seems pretty poor overall (poor video/codec playing, maybe be an OS issue though) I would get an iPad. It will just be a smoother/better experience.
When people say that the IPad has more apps, I kind of laugh at this.....
Its the quality of the apps, not the number of them. If Android has the apps that I want and are of good quality, than I am happy.
I was debating between these 2 devices and in the end I chose the IPAD2. I really wanted to go with Android, but right now its just not ready for "primetime" just yet. I may revisit this when ICS comes out and the Android Tablets and Apps have become more mature. Much like when Android came out, you are goign to ahve to do a lot fo work to get it to do what you want to do. I think the GTAB has great potential, its the OS that holds it back. App conversion\creation has been very slow so far, which is another drawback.
As others have said though, take account of what you want to do with the tablet and what apps you will use. Then go through both tablets and see what will suit your needs. You cant go wrong with either as both have their negative and positive attributes. Whichever is going to fit your needs the best is the one to get, everyone has different needs and wants, so everyone will have a differing opinion.
I can say though that I have not been disappointed with my decision. I still come here and lurk to see what the current state of the GTAB is though as it still sparks my interest and I want it to succeed.
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When people say that the IPad has more apps, I kind of laugh at this.....
Its the quality of the apps, not the number of them. If Android has the apps that I want and are of good quality, than I am happy.
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My experience is quality has usually been lower on the Android side. Either the Android version has fewer features or is less stable or not even compatible with your device. Fragmentation is a real ***** on Android right now and quality is suffering because of it.
I really don't see an argument for Android having an advantage on the app side. That's going to be the iPad's strong point for quite some time.
But I do agree, plenty of people can find good quality apps that suit their needs and be completely happy.
honeycomb really suck balls! i have to have 3 different browsers installed to do what a normal browser does
firefox to download stuff (if u disagree, try using some other browser to download from filesonic/hotfiles)
skyfire to view flash sites
and the ever temperamental stock browser
why am i able to do the above with any browser froyo/gingerbread but not honeycomb?
typing in username/password is a nightmare, tap a key --> wait for the character to appear --> type the next key.. honestly if u want to try out android, get yourself an android phone, avoid honeycomb tablets for the time being
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When people say that the IPad has more apps, I kind of laugh at this.....
Its the quality of the apps, not the number of them. If Android has the apps that I want and are of good quality, than I am happy.
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ipad has a lot of useful and quality apps compared to the less than a hundred apps that honeycomb offer.
I'm not talking about games because the tablet optimized games that honeycomb/tegra have are awesome but when it comes to apps for specific tasks they have very limited selection and not a lot of them are comparable to the ipad app counterpart.
I'm talking about finance apps like iReconcile for iPad and portfolio apps for photographers.
I have not seen one portfolio app for honeycomb and ipad have a color calibration app made by datacolor called SpyderGallery but non existent on the honeycomb.
I'm just saying that honeycomb might be good for someone that want to do basic stuff on their tablet but if you want a task specific app, the ipad has them and honeycomb desn't have them but doesn't mean they're not going to have them in the future.
I think that we're going to see a lot of apps ported to honeycomb by the end of the year.
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I've played with the ipad & currently own a GT 10.1. For me (& I think Rayvnmagi summed it all up nicely), the two greatest advantages of Honeycomb are media (ability to play Flash & higher resolution video) and the mod-ability (I just bought an Epic 4G -- $30 on Amazon! -- and I haven't stopped playing with ROMs since; something I could never do with my iphone 3GS).
Yes, the apps are decidedly not there. Yes, the keyboard lag is awful when typing in forums, etc. I'm willing to put up with that for now because I know two things: 1) the fellas here at xda are awesome & will most likely come out with a fix in the near future & 2) Google handed out GT 10.1 developer editions to everyone at its developer conference. That can only be a good thing in terms of app development for the GT 10.1.
All that being said, I actually recommended my dad (NOT a techie) get an ipad 2. He's not as tech-savvy, and he's of the mindset that things should just work. The ipad has established itself as a very stable platform that works (usually) without a hitch & I have a feeling if he'd gotten a GT 10.1, he would have had several headaches & never used it.
So, I feel like in the end, it really depends on your usage preference--do you want an established tech with a little bit lower specs or do you want the newer tech with more bugs but better specs?
My problem with the tab right now has nothing to do with apps etc etc. That stuff will eventually come, just a little time.
My problem is with lag, video playback issues, and the fact that samsung does not like to update their products to push you to buy new ones. Even if google fixes all the issues currently with the tablets, there is no guarantee samsung will give us that update.
Samsung's flagship phone (galaxy s) has yet to get the ota froyo update. If you send your phone back in for a warranty repair, yes you will receive a refurbed one with froyo or you can get it through kies if you are aware of it's existence. Yet the new $70 samsung exhibit is just a replay of the vibrant but with gingerbread!
I don't know about the other manufacturers, but I don't expect the tab to improve much more than it has now. There will most likely be a new tablet from samsung in the fall to winter season sporting icecream sandwich...if that happens, forget updates!
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SR45 said:
When people say that the IPad has more apps, I kind of laugh at this.....
Its the quality of the apps, not the number of them. If Android has the apps that I want and are of good quality, than I am happy.
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I laugh at this comment because androids tablets apps are lacking in BOTH QUALITY and QUANTITY. Seriously dude you set ursrlf up for that.
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The problem with the iPad is that once you buy into the Apple infrastructure if you buy a decent quality of apps you're locked into them forever unless you want to start over again. Personally I love the flexibility of Android and will never go back to having an iPhone (which I used to have).
When Exchange didn't work with my corporate server with my iPhone I was out of luck. With my Droid X I had the same problem but was able to download Touchdown which works fine. To me, that flexibility makes it more worthwhile to stay with Android and lose out on the over abundance of "fart apps" in the Apple app store.
That's the title of a review from the quite large news-station in Denmark
Link for danes:
http://ekstrabladet.dk/kup/elektronik/gadgets/article1667847.ece
Link for non danes:
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The reviewer says it's better than ipad in all ways.
EDIT: How can i get an infraction from beign racist, when i'm a dane?
It's like saying "**** all americans" when you are born and raised in america.
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That's the title of a review from the quite large news-station in Denmark
Link for danes:
http://ekstrabladet.dk/kup/elektronik/gadgets/article1667847.ece
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The reviewer says it's better than ipad in all ways.
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Well, to be honest, that sounds like the reviewer is a total Android fanboy in that case. Prime does not beat 'ipad in all ways'. Even the biggest fanboys in this forum would not say that Prime is better than an iPad is in every way.
It's actually more like a preview
So what do you think of Benny Feilhaber?
I would. Only people who haven't owned or owned for very long would say that. ios is crazy locked down. There isn't much to do other than play games. Its like a prison rec yard with razor wire and little Steve jobs guards with whistles..
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Android vs. iOS is like religion and politics - you just don't go there. I'd never buy an Apple product because I can't stand their Orwellian control over both the h/w and s/w. But, for people who like things simple and thought out for them, iOS is a safe bet. Also, look at the price of a used TF1 vs. an iPad1. Apple sells more iPads in a week than Asus is projecting for all of 2012. Whether you like Apple or not they've built up quite a little empire of loyal fans. I just bought my niece a 32GB iPad2 because Garage Band doesn't exist for Windows or Android. So there are examples of things you can do on iOS that you can't on other platforms.
Gaming: ipad 2
Office stuff: push
Personalization: Android
Quik learning curve: ios
Transitions to apps: ios
All of this might/ should change with tegra 3 and ICS coming out, but we dont know what ipad3 will bring either.
What i chose in those "catagories" might make you think i would be a Apple fanboy, but i put personalizatio/customization as 88% of my personal scoring. I own an ipad and ipad 2 and theyre great for my wife and 3yo. But i love my a500 and my asus when it gets here.
pizza and beer ...
Android on a tablet is damn near all anyone needs for their daily computer needs. I FULLY believe android is the future of computing. Hands down blowing the doors off of ios. Its laughable really....
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banderling said:
So what do you think of Benny Feilhaber?
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he plays in new england, and probably does ipad
g0t0 said:
Gaming: ipad 2
Office stuff: push
Personalization: Android
Quik learning curve: ios
Transitions to apps: ios
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You forgot to mention:
OS Functionality: Android
iOS is essentially a glorified app launcher. Which fine as far as it goes, because iOS has lots of good apps. But I like being able to use my tablet without needing to launch apps, and there's quite a bit I can do with my Transformer right from the home screen (see recent emails, Tweets, Facebook updates, calendar events, tasks, etc., create Evernote notes, etc.).
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Quik learning curve: ios
Transitions to apps: ios
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By that standard, we should have never outgrown Megablocks or Tonka trucks. LOL
I like my widgets, and not a glorified shortcut screen.
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Gaming: ipad 2
Office stuff: push
Personalization: Android
Quik learning curve: ios
Transitions to apps: ios
All of this might/ should change with tegra 3 and ICS coming out, but we dont know what ipad3 will bring either.
What i chose in those "catagories" might make you think i would be a Apple fanboy, but i put personalizatio/customization as 88% of my personal scoring. I own an ipad and ipad 2 and theyre great for my wife and 3yo. But i love my a500 and my asus when it gets here.
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Not so sure about the gaming verdict there. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think the iPad supports game controllers. Also it seems that I'm able to get a lot of the iTunes paid apps free in the Android Market.
Downloading from anywhere you want.......Android
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Funny how every thread here turns into an android vs ios discussion I think that just shows that both systems are very good and really competing. Best situation for us the users. They race each other with new features and lower prices and we profit!
Anyways it all comes down to personal preference. For me the Prime beats the iPad in all ways. But there are so many reasons why people get tablets and everyone is looking for something slightly different...
-There is the "i buy every apple product" guy
-There is the "i have all other products from apple so i buy my tablet from them as well" guy
-There's the "everything must be shiny and sparkling" guy (that obviously buys apple products)
-There's the "i would never buy an apple product" guy
-There's the "omg i love the keyboard dock idea on the prime" guy (me)
-There's the "i wont buy a tablet without full sized USB port somewhere" guy (me)
-There's the "i want to use my tablet for more than media consumption" guy (me)
-There's the "i dont want to jailbreak my device to be able to use it properly" guy (me)
and so on and on... I think in the end Apple will have about the same spot they have in the PC market now. Why? They've put those great ideas out there with the iphone and the ipad and no one else had any comparable products at the time. This situation is called "Monopoly". You get huge sales by that. Imagine there would be only one car manufactor...
But while other companies like ASUS improve this idea by adding new stuff, Apple somehow keeps to the original idea. So many gamers are screaming for a hardware control method. Apple says you have touchscreen its awesome. Having a keyboard dock and full sized ports is awesome but Apple says you have touchscreen and cloud thing - thats better. Etc.
i find that old people, women, and kids are more suited for ios. While its a "glorified shortcut screen" its all they really need. Oh yea, and non nerdy guys too.
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i find that old people, women, and kids are more suited for ios. While its a "glorified shortcut screen" its all they really need. Oh yea, and non nerdy guys too.
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I guess anyone who does not like/ want to spend time on customizing the OS would love the iOS experience. Similar to what happens with Mac vs. PC. You want to customize and be able to change everything that you could possibly think of but with the possibility of messing up your system, get a PC/Android. You want an out of box experience which is pretty much smooth while only safely letting you stay within the virtual walls the engineers developed, get an Apple.
Android tablets slowly chopping away iPad marketshare
Not sure if this is a correct place to post it, but I saw this article this morning
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/26/strategy-analytics-apple-still-owns-tablet-market-but-android/
According to numbers, Android is slowly eroding Apple's hold on tablet market. And I believe numbers do not show Transformer Prime yet. Wonder how long until we see the same thing here that happened with phone market, when Android overtook iPhone.
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Not sure if this is a correct place to post it, but I saw this article this morning
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/26/strategy-analytics-apple-still-owns-tablet-market-but-android/
According to numbers, Android is slowly eroding Apple's hold on tablet market. And I believe numbers do not show Transformer Prime yet. Wonder how long until we see the same thing here that happened with phone market, when Android overtook iPhone.
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iPhone hit back strongly last quarter though, impressive for one company to out-perform every other company out there put together. But yeah it is inevitable, Android will chip more of that market share away in upcoming years as long as companies produce great phones and tablets.
I cannot resist pointing out that quality control plays a huge role in it though. If Android phones and tablets become known for quality hardware and build wise as much as Android itself has become a very solid and stable operating system, this will happen quickly. But if the 'best Android tablet' launch, like that of TF201, is continuously full of problems in the future, then it's basically Android shooting itself in the foot.
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iPhone hit back strongly last quarter though, impressive for one company to out-perform every other company out there put together. But yeah it is inevitable, Android will chip more of that market share away in upcoming years as long as companies produce great phones and tablets.
I cannot resist pointing out that quality control plays a huge role in it though. If Android phones and tablets become known for quality hardware and build wise as much as Android itself has become a very solid and stable operating system, this will happen quickly. But if the 'best Android tablet' launch, like that of TF201, is continuously full of problems in the future, then it's basically Android shooting itself in the foot.
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Excellent points. I totally agree.
Own a iPad just curious to your reasons I'm not hating and not a fanboy I actually have 2 iPads in my house but I had them before I got into android and for me android is far superior to apple and it just seems to me if you like the iPad why wouldn't you just get a iPhone I plan on getting a tablet maybe the note 10.1 and was wondering why android users choose iPads over tabs because I see a lot of mentions of iPad around before I go out and purchase my android tab
Simplicity, that's why I think others get an iPad. I love Android for its customization but some people just want the directness of an iPad. You can get to things quicker with a custom Android when you know what you like but the iPad has a simple UI that anyone can understand.
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I have no interest in any Apple products. I have the Galaxy Tab 10.1 and now the Note. To me there is no comparison between Android devices and anything Apple has produced thus far. This is just my preference but I am strongly against Apple for various reasons.
I plan on getting the note tab it seemed weird to hear about all the pad owners around here i was getting second thoughts on getting the note tab it only seems natural i would love it since i like my note so much
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Simplicity, that's why I think others get an iPad. I love Android for its customization but some people just want the directness of an iPad. You can get to things quicker with a custom Android when you know what you like but the iPad has a simple UI that anyone can understand.
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Well here are my observations:
Android phones are superior in some ways the biggest is the ability to customize the user experience.
Android tablets are far inferior to iPads. I don't believe this to be a hardware function of the devices. THe issue is the OS.
Gingerbread for a tablet FAIL
Honey Comb for tablet is 70% there huge improvement
Ice Cream Sandwich for tablet TBD
I simply think its the OS of Android that has held the device back from major acceptance. I believe we are just a few steps away from making the choice pure choice. For today Android is almost there.
IOS will always win for the basic user who wants consistency and that where Apple excels. Consistency and simplicity gives the win yet in the end (a few versions away) the Power User will be Android unless Apple revises its vision.
Just my opinion.
Easy, I have a wife and kids. The iPad is just so easy to work my 4yr old daughter knows how to use it (though she can't spell). Apple products allow little to no customization so the experience is the same for anyone picking up an Apple product, so it is just easier to use.
I personally don't like Apple because of that but I need something for the rest of the family to use or it becomes a major headache for me
I have an ipad. It has just about been gathering dust since I got the Note.
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Personally i own one because i originally came from the iphone over a year ago. I had built up such a large amount of ios apps that i needed a device to use them on so i didnt feel they were wasted.
The second reason is because i do ios development and it is nice to have a device to test on.
Like the others have said, apple products are easy to use and are consistent. They release an update and unless youre on a device they no longer support you know you get it. Everything just works and the simplicity of installing apps, music, video, and even backups are easier.
I tried as hard as i could to talk my dad into switching to droid but i lost and he got a 4S. He is so familiar with ios he is afraid to change.
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Easy, I have a wife and kids. The iPad is just so easy to work my 4yr old daughter knows how to use it (though she can't spell). Apple products allow little to no customization so the experience is the same for anyone picking up an Apple product, so it is just easier to use.
I personally don't like Apple because of that but I need something for the rest of the family to use or it becomes a major headache for me
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Bingo. I agree. For me I have the Note and a string of Android phones and the Xoom.
But my 8 ye old son has an ITouch and so do I and they love it cause there's not much they need to do it and its the same thing if he plays with mine his or his friend.
But my 5 yr will steal my Xoom and play games and likes watching my movies on there.
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I have a iPad 3G , iPhone 4s , iPod touch, apple TV, and a Mac book pro, and love all of them , but that's not gonna make me hate android. I am a proud owner of a Galaxy Nexus, and Galaxy Note , and my 4s is currently in its box in the drawer for the past 2 months. Android is really pushing the bar in terms of specs and devices. When I look back at my 4s it really looks like a little glass toy... Still works great but I just got too bored with it. I love big giant vibrant screens and ics is so smooth and stable now, I just love it! Can't wait to get it on my note.
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The iPad 2 is the only good tablet on the market. Regardless of which Android tablet you get, you're getting a laggy product that has no apps. End of story. Not spending $500+ for a product that has no apps.
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The iPad 2 is the only good tablet on the market. Regardless of which Android tablet you get, you're getting a laggy product that has no apps. End of story. Not spending $500+ for a product that has no apps.
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You are too funny. i used to be an ifan boy before. But i never make any comment like that.
sweetboy02125 said:
You are too funny. i used to be an ifan boy before. But i never make any comment like that.
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lmao and he is a senior member here
bman17 said:
Bingo. I agree. For me I have the Note and a string of Android phones and the Xoom.
But my 8 ye old son has an ITouch and so do I and they love it cause there's not much they need to do it and its the same thing if he plays with mine his or his friend.
But my 5 yr will steal my Xoom and play games and likes watching my movies on there.
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I completely agree. I love Android... and I love iOS, but it's just not for me. I personally bought an Iphone 4s for my father (72 years old) because I know he will enjoy it more than my Galaxy Note. Point being, he wants things to be simple that "can't break"... at least minimal chance of messing up by him. So to each his own. I love Android because I can play my classic SNES games hooked up to a HDTV using a Wiimote and A2DP sound to my headset through my Galaxy note. Try doing that with an Iphone/Ipad =D
yea i understand the kids liking ipads and the itouch i was talking about us the people that use android i cant see anyone using there android device then go and pickup a ipad lol
phillyrican said:
yea i understand the kids liking ipads and the itouch i was talking about us the people that use android i cant see anyone using there android device then go and pickup a ipad lol
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I'd love the have an Android Tablet I currently own an iPad 1 and 2. I have owned and returned the Xoom and Samsung 10.1. Honestly the current OS for Android is like a beta or alpha version compared to IOS (which I hate). IOS is smooth and responsive I wish I could say that for Honeycomb. In the end Android will be superior and when that happens I will be the first to buy one.
My next attempt to go Android with a Tablet will be the 10.1 Note. I have high hopes.
i have a ipad2 because it was free, my boss gave it to me for christmas and he also pays for the data plan, i could of chose a android tab but i knew i was going to mainly be using my ipad for work, the battery life on the ipad is nuts, i dont charge it more then twice a week if that and i use it all day while working. thats why i have a ipad.
but when im home im either on my note or my photon.
Earthsdog said:
I'd love the have an Android Tablet I currently own an iPad 1 and 2. I have owned and returned the Xoom and Samsung 10.1. Honestly the current OS for Android is like a beta or alpha version compared to IOS (which I hate). IOS is smooth and responsive I wish I could say that for Honeycomb. In the end Android will be superior and when that happens I will be the first to buy one.
My next attempt to go Android with a Tablet will be the 10.1 Note. I have high hopes.
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yea i never had a adroid tab but i am gonna try the 10.1 note and i think it comes with ics do you know if there is a release date
The word from MWC was 2Qtr.
Arcadia310 said:
The iPad 2 is the only good tablet on the market. Regardless of which Android tablet you get, you're getting a laggy product that has no apps. End of story. Not spending $500+ for a product that has no apps.
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Now this is funny. I have zero lag on my tablet and it had all that was needed for someone to start out new on a device like that in terms of apps. I quickly connected to the Android Market and voila ... apps galore. End of story.
I went to "Best Buy" yesterday.
I saw the Galaxy Note, Galaxy Player (didn't know about it), and 4 different Galaxy tablets.
They were nothing but different size versions of our SGS2!
In my opinion: as far as functionality we have the best dealio! The Galaxy note is useless to me. It's just our phone, but larger! The player is our phone, but larger and without the phone part! Of course, the tablets are our phone, but larger! If I really want larger, I'll just connect my phone to a TV via HDMI!
What are others' opinions, and what did I miss?
I personally think its cool to see so many different variations of Samsung devices and encourage them to continue to CRUSH Apple with something that Apple cant provide, which is choice, and continue on their path to world domination.
side note...the I777 is unique in many ways to these other devices.
I mean, Samsung is showing off stuff at different price ranges for different people.
We got a large range of stuff like Samsung Galaxy 5 and Fit and etc. for people who want cheap Android phones, but not looking for the strong power but just for something to make calls on, text, something compact, and something they can play Doodle Jump on.
We got stuff like the Galaxy S II and SkyRocket for people who really want the raw power on their phone, but still, appeals to a large audience with mass advertising, promises fulfilled, and not that incredibly high of a price.
We got the Galaxy Nexus as an attempt to show off their best phone, the top of their line-up, as well as with pricing. If Samsung had anything to show as their work done beautifully, it would be that with Google backing it up completely.
And finally, the Galaxy Note is Samsung's way to step out of the crowd and show something that no one has yet, so it's just just a mess of 3-4 inch smart phones that are just thinner and lighter than the model before, holding most of the changes under the hood, which doesn't concern the majority of buyers.
They pretty much got all the different levels of consumers down, as opposed to Apple, which tries their best to hit all of them with one phone that lies in the middle of all of that, but in the end, the size of the phones is the main thing separating all of the Galaxy phones.
So I wonder how many galaxy players were sold... probably like 2 or 3.. I would rather have an iPod touch
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So basically, you just want to say that you love your SGS2, right?
Why not just say directly?
There are absolutely no need to brag down other devices.
Same concept as iPhone, iPad, iPod Touch. Different flavors for everything.. That is all...
LOL!
Is your period button broken, or do you just exclaim more than most? Lol
I agree, we've got it good. My mom is ordering a galaxy player 5.0 for my cousin. It looks really cool.
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votinh said:
So basically, you just want to say that you love your SGS2, right?
Why not just say directly?
There are absolutely no need to brag down other devices.
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Oh lord we have an iPhone fanboy . I actually looked at getting one because yes they do just WORK. But I need the choices that the android operating system offers.
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Picked up two Galaxy 4.0 players for my daughters, and they love em. They are really nice , cameras work great etc. Pretty much all the capabilities of our phones minus the "phone".
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Even though I have a full-blown phone, I have a Player 5.0 - really nice device thanks to the large screen and ginormous battery.
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I personally think its cool to see so many different variations of Samsung devices and encourage them to continue to CRUSH Apple with something that Apple cant provide, which is choice, and continue on their path to world domination.
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Although I am exclusively an Android user (which you can see from my sig), I have to say that the strategy of "crushing" Apple with "choice" did not pan out that well. Samsung is kinda ok on the phone front, especially with SGSII, but everything else is essentially lost. Tablet front was lost from the get go, because they "fought" IPad form factor instead of putting all resources into 7" one, and they lost even that battle because Amazon stepped in. It is unfortunate, but I personally do not know a single person who owns something that is 10" and is not an IPad, or 7" and is not a Kindle Fire...
I know plenty of people with Tab 10.1 units...
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I know plenty of people with Tab 10.1 units...
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Yeah, I've got an iconia A500 tablet, my wife does as well. They are both 10.1" tablets.
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Well, I have 2 7" Galaxy Tabs, does not change anything. Entropy has one, you have some other, but I was mainly talking about what I see in physical world, among friends, at work, even while commuting...Apple everywhere :-(
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Well, I have 2 7" Galaxy Tabs, does not change anything. Entropy has one, you have some other, but I was mainly talking about what I see in physical world, among friends, at work, even while commuting...Apple everywhere :-(
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I also have two 7" Galaxy Tabs and love them. They seem to be more like my captivate on the inside with the looks of our phone on the outside. Now the GENERAL POPULATION are definitely sheep and is why they choose apple for the most part. I know apple is good for the GENERAL populace but I think our phones would fair well even with these that don't modify them to their liking. And sitting at Starbucks with my Galaxy 7" tab I have gotten more WOW WHAT IS THAT because most GENERAL people just don't really KNOW about the other options when all they hear about is crapple. So my point is taken when they comment on the tab about how nice it is. Apple has done their job to blindfold many people. I think within the last year i have started to see some people switch over to Samsung GS or GS2 and never look back.
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Although I am exclusively an Android user (which you can see from my sig), I have to say that the strategy of "crushing" Apple with "choice" did not pan out that well. Samsung is kinda ok on the phone front, especially with SGSII, but everything else is essentially lost. Tablet front was lost from the get go, because they "fought" IPad form factor instead of putting all resources into 7" one, and they lost even that battle because Amazon stepped in. It is unfortunate, but I personally do not know a single person who owns something that is 10" and is not an IPad, or 7" and is not a Kindle Fire...
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That's weird .....only person I knew with a iPad was my sister in-law, who bought one without seeking my approval(because she knows I hate Apple) and within two days of owning it she brought it back to best buy and exchanged it for a 10" Galaxy.
I know alot of people with tabs.....none of those people own iPads. You see heavier concentrations of them....especially in the work place where co-workers do ruthless things like suggest you get an iPad. Same goes for Android.....everyone I know.....and I mean almost EVERYONE has some kind of android device.....most likely because everyone they know has one. I will buy an iPad as soon as there is no more iTunes, its completely themeable without jailbreaks, when.......ah forget it....ain't gonna happen.
Side note reguardless of Samsungs sales.....they still don't remove choices.
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Well, there are many differences...
The Note has Wacom baked in so that can use electromagnetic pens for precise input.
The player is more of an SGS1 variant.
There are several tablets and they are different...Also you cannot carry your TV during travelling isn't it?
Will Sony respond to the Ipad 3, or leave the tablet market altogether? Interesting times...
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Will Sony respond to the Ipad 3, or leave the tablet market altogether? Interesting times...
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Did you read something to make you think Sony would leave the android tablet market?
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They will probably do a new tablet either late summer or before Xmas. I just hope they stick with Android and don't do anything stupid like use their own OS or even worse Windows 8.
non-concerned
I don't see this as a big concern.
The new IPad HD is simply an updating, and not a huge change. It is getting a better processor and HD screen. Stuff the IPad 2 should have had in the first place.
While I absolutely love my Sony "S" it has a few quirks I would like straightened out. It will be interesting to see what the next generation looks like and hopefully it will be more successful.
I was just wondering if the tablet s was Sony dipping their toes in the market, and if they consider it to be worthwhile continuing to develop a successor, or if they didn't sell that many and so will give tablets up as a bad job. I have no idea either way. As far as I can see, the problem Android tablets have is that there are so many different ones by different manufacturers, whereas the Ipad is made by only one company and seems to be the better integrated product overall. I don't know of any Android tablets with comparable specs that the new Ipad has?... And it seems that some developers have given up on Android altogether - Sky, for example have said that they aren't developing Sky Go for Android tablets, and the same with their Sky Sports Ipad App. If this is how major companies are thinking, then it's going to be tough to convince companies like Sony to carry on with trying to make a rival tablet.
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I was just wondering if the tablet s was Sony dipping their toes in the market, and if they consider it to be worthwhile continuing to develop a successor, or if they didn't sell that many and so will give tablets up as a bad job. I have no idea either way. As far as I can see, the problem Android tablets have is that there are so many different ones by different manufacturers, whereas the Ipad is made by only one company and seems to be the better integrated product overall. I don't know of any Android tablets with comparable specs that the new Ipad has?... And it seems that some developers have given up on Android altogether - Sky, for example have said that they aren't developing Sky Go for Android tablets, and the same with their Sky Sports Ipad App. If this is how major companies are thinking, then it's going to be tough to convince companies like Sony to carry on with trying to make a rival tablet.
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Well that's the problem with all android products. Way too much choice, occasionally makes me wish I had an iPhone so I knew my phone wouldn't turn old in a month lol. But back to the main point I can't say whether Sony will or will not make a new tablet this year, however what with them releasing (IMO) some really nice phones it seems like they are trying to reassert themselves in the market, so its very possible they will. Better question is what will they upgrade/change ignoring processor and screen resolution
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I think they're going to have to look closely at the form of the thing - I really like the way that the Tablet S looks and feels with it's wedge shape, but it was like they designed it and then struggled to think of how to design a case for it. Whereas the Ipad has the clip on cases where you open it and the thing turns itself on. The whole thing is integrated better somehow. It's little details like this that Sony has to get right if it's going to compete. And it may have to swallow it's pride and lower the price too. I'm sure the mindset of a lot of people will be "Why pay £399 for this Sony when I can have a proper Ipad for the same money?".
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2401278,00.asp
This article should provide some answers.
Looking forward to seeing what Sony has up their sleeves in the future.
Sounds positive.
But they do need to get companies like Sky on board, or what's the point? A tablet really is only as good as the apps that are available for it.
I just hope this is not some kind of VHS/Betamax (or blu-ray/hd-dvd to be more modern...) face-off where there will only be one winner. Because if that's the way it goes, then it will be Apple.
Im sure by the fact that they say they hit their sales expectations they understand just where they are in terms tablets. Really though just gonna have to give it time android is still evolving. And I kinda disagree that a tablet is only as good as the apps you can get. But I mostly use mine to read news, watch YouTube and listen to music so I can't say I know what every user does.
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