Motorola and VZW both state 16 GB internal but I'm seeing 8.....anybody else??
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jrobi25 said:
Motorola and VZW both state 16 GB internal but I'm seeing 8.....anybody else??
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8 gb of internal storage, 4 gb for applications and the rest for android system.
16GB is the size of the whole eMMC.
Since the eMMC is (obviously) partitioned, the available space for you is <16GB.
Anyway, that's called "smart advertising".... :°)
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hi i just got my razr and when i checked internal storage it was 8GB only,isn't razr supposed to be 16 gb?is there a 8 gb version?
thanks.
There is 16GB, only 8GB is user-accessible. The rest is partitioned for webtop and app data.
Heaps of topics about this, search if you need further info.
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Thanks, sorry for the confusion.
This makes me crazy. Why do they claim 8gb when there is not even 5gb usable? Be honest, say 5gb so we are able to gauge what we are getting. At least when you get an SD card almost all of it is there.
You forgot 2 gb internal storage for apps..yes its not full 8 gb ..its 7 point something but it never is.
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It is the same reason for your hdd on your pc. The drive does have 8gb total but some of it is used up by the system's OS. Your usable space is actually 5.5gb with 1.3gb being used for apps. Any storafe medium does this. If you notoce on sd cards it may say 16gb but the user only has access to 14 gb
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-sigh- because there really is 8gb of memory and they would be lying if they said 5gb. Think about it; all tech companies list the memory as the total amount of internal memory, not just available memory. If Samsung had a guilty conscience and said the galaxy player had 5gb, how could you compare to the iPod, that still said 8gb? There really is 8gb, but only 5gb available. Life tends to not be perfect.
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iJimaniac said:
-sigh- because there really is 8gb of memory and they would be lying if they said 5gb. Think about it; all tech companies list the memory as the total amount of internal memory, not just available memory. If Samsung had a guilty conscience and said the galaxy player had 5gb, how could you compare to the iPod, that still said 8gb? There really is 8gb, but only 5gb available. Life tends to not be perfect.
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I didnt understand why there is 2gb od system storage,why when i install an app the size storage is taken from the usb storage and the system storage?why do we need the system storage
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kfirbep said:
I didnt understand why there is 2gb od system storage,why when i install an app the size storage is taken from the usb storage and the system storage?why do we need the system storage
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System storage is for apps..some aps can be instaled on sd (usb) but you can move and them to system..be happy that SGP has a lot of system memory..i had phone with just 200mb of system memory and 8 gb card and that was nightmare.
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DZonikg said:
System storage is for apps..some aps can be instaled on sd (usb) but you can move and them to system..be happy that SGP has a lot of system memory..i had phone with just 200mb of system memory and 8 gb card and that was nightmare.
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but what is the different if i have 2 GB of system storage and 5 GB of usb storage?i prefer that it will be 7 GB of storage that apps will be installed because right now when i install an app it takes place in the system storage and the usb storage i think that it just make things more complicated.
kfirbep said:
but what is the different if i have 2 GB of system storage and 5 GB of usb storage?i prefer that it will be 7 GB of storage that apps will be installed because right now when i install an app it takes place in the system storage and the usb storage i think that it just make things more complicated.
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Most apps can not be instaled on usb storage so you want be able to install them at all with out it ..also almost all aps have some librarys and they all go to system storage..also dalvic cache is on system storage..and every app that is on usb storage you can move it to system..just go to menage aplications in settings ..click on app and click on move to device
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caseyatbt said:
This makes me crazy. Why do they claim 8gb when there is not even 5gb usable? Be honest, say 5gb so we are able to gauge what we are getting. At least when you get an SD card almost all of it is there.
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Just buy a 64gb MicroSD and swap the internal with the external, then you'll have 64gb for apps to be installed on.
Simple fix.
ZaIINN said:
Just buy a 64gb MicroSD and swap the internal with the external, then you'll have 64gb for apps to be installed on.
Simple fix.
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I agree,i have done it with 32 gb.
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DZonikg said:
I agree,i have done it with 32 gb.
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I have 32gb too,how I do it?
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kfirbep said:
I have 32gb too,how I do it?
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Modify your hold.fstab file in /system/etc
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Hello
I just got the LG Optimus G AT&T, I thought the specification for phone memory is 16 GB, but it only has about 11 GB available to start with?
Is that correct? Just want to confirm.
Thank you,
YYW
yewai said:
Hello
I just got the LG Optimus G AT&T, I thought the specification for phone memory is 16 GB, but it only has about 11 GB available to start with?
Is that correct? Just want to confirm.
Thank you,
YYW
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That's all I ever had as well on internal.
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Yup 11GB usable to the user. The OS is installed on the other 5 GBs.
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Joecascio2000 said:
Yup 11GB usable to the user. The OS is installed on the other 5 GBs.
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WTF is in there? How can it possibly take up that much memory? That's more than a complete Windows 7 install including Office 2010 Pro Plus!
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The system partition is 1.4GBs alone but there are a couple of other partitions that vary in size. A lot of the reserved space is unused.
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Joecascio2000 said:
The system partition is 1.4GBs alone but there are a couple of other partitions that vary in size. A lot of the reserved space is unused.
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Can it be reclaimed or do you know if there is a valid reason for the unused, reserved space? Thanks in advance for your feedback.
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Jank4AU said:
Can it be reclaimed or do you know if there is a valid reason for the unused, reserved space? Thanks in advance for your feedback.
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Not sure. I guess technically speaking Yes is could be reclaimed but I doubt it would happen. When CM 10 came out for the Captivate they kept tweaking the partition layout because at first they allowed too much space and then they changed it again to allow less space. The big problem is when they kept changing it, it would wipe the whole device including internal SD. We may see a new partition layout when CM 10.1 comes out but again I doubt it. If you download SD Maid and click Advanced on the first screen you can see a list of locations and the allotted storage for each (see screenshot).
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WTF is in there? How can it possibly take up that much memory? That's more than a complete Windows 7 install including Office 2010 Pro Plus!
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Idk what win7 you have but mine is about 20gb. Lol
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its420oclock said:
Idk what win7 you have but mine is about 20gb. Lol
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Depends on what you install. Mine was like 9 gigs.
The storage device won't have 16GB of space anyway, not after it's formatted. You get 14.7GB. Then the stock ROM is about 1.2GB -- before installing it on the drive. The OS gets a partition of several gigabytes to reserve space and keep knuckleheads from stuffing the drive with crap.
The AT&T version comes with a blank 16GB SD card pre-installed, in addition to the 16GB of internal storage. If that's not enough space, you can buy a 64GB SD card separately.
Is that the biggest memory card you can use in OG, 64GB?
yep. havent tried a 128gb one (if they exist) but with 64gb it works fine and it's the max specified in specs.
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Is that the biggest memory card you can use in OG, 64GB?
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If you find a bigger one, let me know. :laugh:
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If you find a bigger one, let me know. :laugh:
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o_o; Do people really need all that space..? I think the ~27-32 is fantastic. Hell, I was fine with 8 on my Inspire 4g. Now people are talking about 128gb? Ya'll are nuts..
Be glad you get that much. the AT&T One X only had 9.7 GB free out of the box. HTC/AT&T used up almost HALF of the storage.
I'm about to buy a new phone to replace my aging and decrepit A885 OG Droid. 3 devices currently have my attention: Note II, Droid Razr MAXX HD, the Motorola DNA, all on VZW.
There's one thing I have been unable to find about these devices, and that's how the SD card is handled by the OS. I've learned, from the Asus tablet I have, that virtually mounted SD is a HORRIBLE idea, and want to make sure my new phone has directly mounted SD (so utils like App2Sd function properly, and system storage uses all available internal storage).
TL;DR: Does the DNA mount the external SD as a virtual or directly as a physical storage device?
cross-posted to RazrHD, VZW Note II, and VZW DNA
It symlinks the physical nand as as card you can't physically access it.
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Their isn't a external sd...
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Bigandrewgold said:
Their isn't a external sd...
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Hmph. Knocks that off the list. Thanks for correcting me.
I'm going to clean install Beans 17 and use the sd card swap option; however, I'm trying to figure out what precautions I should take or what I should do to prepare and not lose data. I copied all my card over to my PC.
Should I delete everything on the card now or just let it on there and complete the swap?
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I'm going to clean install Beans 17 and use the sd card swap option; however, I'm trying to figure out what precautions I should take or what I should do to prepare and not lose data. I copied all my card over to my PC.
Should I delete everything on the card now or just let it on there and complete the swap?
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As long as you have everything backed up, and there are no instructions telling you to have a empty SD card when you set up Beans with SD swap, you should be fine. I don't think having it full or empty will cause issues either way. Just make sure you read all the instructions and info on SD Swap in Beans thread.
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OK. I've flashed and am running swapped sd. No issues.
Thnx!
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grimloktt said:
OK. I've flashed and am running swapped sd. No issues.
Thnx!
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Good deal! No problem
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Hey guys, I'm running Beans 17 with sd swap and I've been installing all kinds of apps with no problem but I noticed that the memory is being sucked up from the sd card and not the internal memory where I have 30 gigs. Weird, because without sd swap apps are downloaded into the internal memory and with swap downloaded to external sd where the measly internal memory is now. Kinda thought everything will be downloaded to internal all the time. How is everyone elses downloads going?
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Bill Idol said:
Hey guys, I'm running Beans 17 with sd swap and I've been installing all kinds of apps with no problem but I noticed that the memory is being sucked up from the sd card and not the internal memory where I have 30 gigs. Weird, because without sd swap apps are downloaded into the internal memory and with swap downloaded to external sd where the measly internal memory is now. Kinda thought everything will be downloaded to internal all the time. How is everyone elses downloads going?
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I'm wondering and believe I read that it shows apps going to phone memory but are actually going to sd card? I haven't installed enough to find out...
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I'm wondering and believe I read that it shows apps going to phone memory but are actually going to sd card? I haven't installed enough to find out...
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Thats supposed to be how it works. It is supposed to trick your phone into thinking your external is your internal I believe.
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shangrila500 said:
Thats supposed to be how it works. It is supposed to trick your phone into thinking your external is your internal I believe.
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Let me clarify. If you go to applications manager, it only shows memory equal to your phone memory; however, for the new user, we'd think it'd show whatever is left on your sd card--now that your sd card is "internal" memory. So, instead of it saying I have 30GB left, it says I have like 1 GB left out of 11...or whatever the total is...
If I go to storage under settings, it shows phone storage as 64 and sd storage as whatever the phone storage amount is.
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Let me clarify. If you go to applications manager, it only shows memory equal to your phone memory; however, for the new user, we'd think it'd show whatever is left on your sd card--now that your sd card is "internal" memory. So, instead of it saying I have 30GB left, it says I have like 1 GB left out of 11...or whatever the total is...
If I go to storage under settings, it shows phone storage as 64 and sd storage as whatever the phone storage amount is.
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What I was getting at was that it tricks the phone, and the app market, into installing into the external card by making the external show up as internal to the app that are being installed. Thats my understanding of how it works and seeing as how i have never used it I know nothing of how it shows up just the general principle behind it and why it works the way it does. I may be completely wrong too, thats how I have seen it explained.
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Thanks for your reply, that shed some light on the matter.
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