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Does anyone know what the OTA does/changes? I would hate to apply it for no significant reason and cost myself a chance at root in the future.
Not until Leo, tmartin, toast, or haus says so. They are working on root
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So in other wordss, don't apply it??
HTC EVO = my best friend
Do not apply it unless you want to wait for root.
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Do not apply it unless you want to wait for root.
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You and anybody else saying that is just as useful as me saying if you take the OTA, you wont have to wait.
At this point everything looks like its just pure speculation, nobody knows for sure.
When would you ever apply an OTA~ I don't recall a situation where it was a good idea LOL
Can't watch the Green Hornet until I update the software. No thanks.
I didn't update mine yet and it played green hornet just fine. It's a shame they didn't put a better movie on here it actually looks pretty darn good. It's the most impressive 3d content I've seen so far on the 3vo
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Where did you get your phone, Best Buy?
I applied the update and now my phone shortcut is missing from the lockscreen and the app drawer. I searched online and apparently it's a common issue and HTC is working on yet another update to fix it. Apparently the first OTA update allowed you to connect to the phone via ADB.... so it looks as if they MAY be in the process of unlocking the bootloader for us.
Either way, there are a few small bugs to work out.
I wouldnt apply the OTA.. i know that its not confirmed it will do anything to affect root. However my understanding is the devs working on root didnt do it and im not going to either. Id like my phone to be as similar to the ones they are working on as possible just in case it matters.
On top of that i dont see any problems from not installing the OTA.
Too funny. You guys say you don't trust the OTA but you trust the software that came on the phone to begin with? Anyhow, HTC put out an update for a reason- it fixes things that are broken. If you want a partially functioning and buggy device, do not apply the update. If we had root I could see why people would be so concerned about losing it. However, we do not have root and who knows when we will. So, if until then you want a phone that works properly, apply the update which probably isn't going to change a whole lot in regards to your ability to root.
So if I did apply the update I'm f'ed??
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OTA - KIA my 3VO
The OTA has screwed up my phone. It is stuck in a boot loop; I was able to go to the bootloader but the factory reset did not fix it. I am headed to the store to swap out my brand new phone.
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So if I did apply the update I'm f'ed??
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Nope. Its all speculation at this point.
mine worked fine did you give it some time?
I'd hold off on updating for the simple reason HTC is trying to fix their last OTA lol
My phone arrives Monday but I'll wait unless theres a bug that is really bothering me, otherwise I can hold off. If you want to update for the sake of updating then don't whine if it prevents you from rooting later.
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Nope. Its all speculation at this point.
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I sure hope that i didn't just ruin my chances of getting root!
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S_rob7488 said:
I sure hope that i didn't just ruin my chances of getting root!
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not likely, they said they are giving us root .. i kinda believe them since i doubt they want another backlash like they had
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Too funny. You guys say you don't trust the OTA but you trust the software that came on the phone to begin with? Anyhow, HTC put out an update for a reason- it fixes things that are broken. If you want a partially functioning and buggy device, do not apply the update. If we had root I could see why people would be so concerned about losing it. However, we do not have root and who knows when we will. So, if until then you want a phone that works properly, apply the update which probably isn't going to change a whole lot in regards to your ability to root.
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But it could and often does patch up holes that COULD be used to rout root...
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Some have been saying that it was safe to take the ota... But there is another new one. I am betting it closes the hole. So be careful.
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Not taking it.....
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Some have been saying that it was safe to take the ota... But there is another new one. I am betting it closes the hole. So be careful.
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From what they've said, it's not recommended to take future OTAs, so a new one probably won't be safe... but I doubt it closes the hole as I would bet that they don't know what it is yet.
Just because someone discovered it, doesn't necessarily mean that HTC already knows where to find it.
I won't be taking anymore updates, because I don't want to lose the opportunity for root, but I bet this one wouldn't close the hole.
But, thanks for the heads-up about the new one. I haven't noticed it yet. Too busy tearing my phone apart lol.
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Too busy tearing my phone apart lol.
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whatudoin ? hmmmm?
Not taking any ever... Doesn't anybody ever learn?
Aside from the random FC i have absolutely no issues... Aside from a weak 3g radio, but, there have been no radio updates as far as I know.
Also sense blows. That is all.
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i just checked and their wasn't another OTA.
Nothing new sense the Launch Day Updates
That's odd because I certainly got a new OTA prompt. And it is the first time that when I decided... The prompt went away.
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What was the original one? Because I think this one that prompted me was 1.13.651.7
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I don't think that this a new OTA you are getting. There were 2 that were pushed so far, and that is all Sprint lists on their website.
Something even more interesting though, and looked for the Evo3D Support section and it doesn't exist... I know that it was there about a week ago, just seems odd that there isn't any support section and they don't even show a link for the Evo3D to select as a phone in the support section..
Don't jump to conclusions on the phone not being there, but I would guess that it isn't there for a reason.. Hopefully something good!
OP: The one you were prompted for was the 2nd one.
no new ota atm
No new update for me either.
Is there a way to see the change log for HTC updates?
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Is there a way to see the change log for HTC updates?
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I think the closest you will get is on Sprint's website. Like I said a few posts back HTC doesn't have the EVO 3D listed anymore on there support section. That is where they used to show you what was in it, a little more detailed than Sprint..
Whats going on there... We can only wonder.
Any word on the ota
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Any word on the ota
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There wasn't one.
Please read through a thread before posting a question that has been answered 5 times already.
In the long run you will find that reading and searching work much better than asking a question that has been answered already.
Anyone else having issues with slow ota download speeds. I'm using wifi and it only got 5 mb done total after leaving it to download overnight.
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Anyone else having issues with slow ota download speeds. I'm using wifi and it only got 5 mb done total after leaving it to download overnight.
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Nope, I just installed the OTA (1.13.651.7 from the 24th.)
downloaded fast over WiFi.
No new OTA here. Last time the 3vo had an OTA was the day of public release.
Mike
I was wondering if there was one in the making or not
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felacio said:
Nope, I just installed the OTA (1.13.651.7 from the 24th.)
downloaded fast over WiFi.
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So how is ur phone running with the update?
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So... my phone was updated by someone who was playing with my phone. how screwed am i with the permanent root status?
I'm pretty sure you aren't screwed at all, it has been said by the the devs working on S-OFF for our devices that it won't affect it at all
Omg u screwed turn it ur phone and get a new one!!!
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In*
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Fdavila you can long press and edit your post, seen you post again to fix a mistake a couple times .
I could care less not complaining just letting you know
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LOL
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Its toast man just get back in your car and take it back to the store... :/
vinc3stylez said:
So... my phone was updated by someone who was playing with my phone. how screwed am i with the permanent root status?
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To date none of the ota updates close the hole so your fine.
zone23 said:
Its toast man just get back in your car and take it back to the store... :/
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Those guys are just messing your fine. Almost all the temp roots still work with the ota's and the perm roots and s-off should as well, although i dont know for sure. not much you can really do now anyway. mine is updated as well
So I'm trying to do the ics update and when I tell it to check for updates, it says "your phone is up to date, there are no updates availabe"
Why won't it give me the update? I tried restarting the phone. Also tried turning off WiFi and doing it on 4g.
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Now or never
Update for "HTC Watch" but no ICS...it worked before dammit! I just didn't know I was rooted so it didn't work. Now I'm back to STOCK unrooted/locked and it won't get the OTA. Going to try manually...
just to add, I got the phone 9 days and its bone stock never rooted.
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Update for "HTC Watch" but no ICS...it worked before dammit! I just didn't know I was rooted so it didn't work. Now I'm back to STOCK unrooted/locked and it won't get the OTA. Going to try manually...
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This seems to be happening to a lot of people including me. Can't find a clear answer, all anyone says is to flash the leaked Rom. I dont wanna flash the leak Damn it! Lol. And the thread will probably get deletes like all the others...
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Keep checking for software updates, it'll tell you there is no update when the server load is high, after all, everyone is updating. If you're s-on just make sure you're on complete stock, if not flash the stock ruu via hboot, if you used the leaked ICS, well your chances are nada unless you s-off.
what is s-on and s-off?
Had to manually update from hboot. Got a little scared as the phone turned off when I was updating. Pressed the power button and it came back to hboot then it updated from there.
Security ON or Security OFF, if you're off, you can downgrade and flash the official ICS or upgrade to any of the leaked or official files, while on the other hand if you're on, well you have to do everything officially and there's no downgrading allowed.
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Keep checking for software updates, it'll tell you there is no update when the server load is high, after all, everyone is updating. If you're s-on just make sure you're on complete stock, if not flash the stock ruu via hboot, if you used the leaked ICS, well your chances are nada unless you s-off.
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Hey Dark, remember you said yesterday about flashing the stock recovery and relocking my BL via Hasoon? Will it all went as planned last night, dies that mean I'm back to stock, or will I still have to flash the GB RUU?
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papeshfoo said:
Hey Dark, remember you said yesterday about flashing the stock recovery and relocking my BL via Hasoon? Will it all went as planned last night, dies that mean I'm back to stock, or will I still have to flash the GB RUU?
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Everything is stock, so you should be clear. Just make sure your software version corresponds with one of tmo's stock software id's for GB.
You don't have to relock the BL by the way, you just have to be on stock recovery/software.
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Everything is stock, so you should be clear. Just make sure your software version corresponds with one of tmo's stock software id's for GB.
You don't have to relock the BL by the way, you just have to be on stock recovery/software.
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Ok good, mine is the same as the OPs...thanks for all the help.
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papeshfoo said:
Ok good, mine is the same as the OPs...thanks for all the help.
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No prob buddy, just keep spamming that software check button now lol.
papeshfoo said:
This seems to be happening to a lot of people including me. Can't find a clear answer, all anyone says is to flash the leaked Rom. I dont wanna flash the leak Damn it! Lol. And the thread will probably get deletes like all the others...
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[Rant]It gets deleted because there are like 50 threads opened up every time a noob has an issue. This site is not www.noobsupportRus.com. It's a site for development. If u screw up your phone because you didn't read or know what you're doing, its not worthy of opening a new thread begging for help.
Now, if someone were to get the Amaze, they wouldn't know where to start because of all the clutter yapping about the same **** over and over.
If you're a noob unwilling to read, then leave ur phone stock or pay someone. Moderators have been asking for this over and over and over... It gets old.
Has anyone wondered where most of the regular senior members went lately? I've never seen any forum like the Amaze forum... Where noobs actually run people away from xda with stupidity. [/Rant]
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For the record, it was proven by mrmako earlier that the leak and official updates are the very same version, etc.
papeshfoo said:
I dont wanna flash the leak Damn it!
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this is odd to me. why wouldnt you flash the leak? do you think t-mobile magically cooks up ota's to send out to its subscribers? ota's come from the manufacturer (with the exception of GED's) and are sent to carriers for testing. the carrier then decides whether it will accept the ota or reject it. this is why you saw a revision in the build number from .1 to .3. .3 was accepted and pushed out to amaze owners, over-the-air.
the leak is just an earlier release of the final product. im not sure whats so hard to understand about that? you guys that were waiting, couldve been running the ota ics like 2 weeks ago...
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this is odd to me. why wouldnt you flash the leak? do you think t-mobile magically cooks up ota's to send out to its subscribers? ota's come from the manufacturer (with the exception of GED's) and are sent to carriers for testing. the carrier then decides whether it will accept the ota or reject it. this is why you saw a revision in the build number from .1 to .3. .3 was accepted and pushed out to amaze owners, over-the-air.
the leak is just an earlier release of the final product. im not sure whats so hard to understand about that? you guys that were waiting, couldve been running the ota ics like 2 weeks ago...
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Just give up... I'm starting to think we are the only ones whobread each other's posts. People are gonna be their own "experts."
Good luck waiting for ICS. When mt4g got ota gingerbread, my stock unrooted glacier never got the update. I had to flash it in bootloader (which nobody here will do since its not ota... Amh)
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Well before I start, let the trolls/thread closing mods have it...
Now anyway, the evo 3d got it's update it looks like today, now this was a little earlier then anticipated for the users, think ours will come any earlier then the anticipated time frame????
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Hard saying not knowing.
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Well before I start, let the trolls/thread closing mods have it...
Now anyway, the evo 3d got it's update it looks like today, now this was a little earlier then anticipated for the users, think ours will come any earlier then the anticipated time frame????
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The atrix is projected to get it a month or two before we do, so that's what were waiting for. What we need is for anyone on complete stock to use cheesecake to check the moto servers every couple of days as that is where we normally get leaked updates.
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The atrix is projected to get it a month or two before we do, so that's what were waiting for. What we need is for anyone on complete stock to use cheesecake to check the moto servers every couple of days as that is where we normally get leaked updates.
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By complete stock do you mean, a non rooted, non unlocked bootloader photon, or could it be a photon that is rooted but does not have the bootloader unlocked
Direct me to the cheesecake... I have a bone stock photon.
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Direct me to the cheesecake... I have a bone stock photon.
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Here you go.
Installed... Now what
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By complete stock do you mean, a non rooted, non unlocked bootloader photon, or could it be a photon that is rooted but does not have the bootloader unlocked
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Im not entirely sure. I know that users of MOFs 2.3.5ish rom are unable to hit the server appropriately and that is as close to stock as possible (ie, no custom kernel, no unlock) except for being rooted. Then again, MOF could have made other changes im not aware of that could possible break the ability. I would say, if you are stock and rooted, try it. If that doesnt work, we know you must be completely stock.
Read this to start.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18965072&postcount=1
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Read this to start.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18965072&postcount=1
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And perhaps this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1226664
yes my thread made a difference!
Every little bit helps.
So we need a non rooted stock phone for this but you hafta root to use it?
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Root is okay, but has to be running the stock ROM.
So if I'm doing this right, and an update becomes available, I should get a notification other than "should be good" when i check... Right?
Also, I'm staying non rooted. For now.
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It will state that something new was found.
Good. And then I download it and put it in a link to share with the class?
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That's where you have to be careful. Sometimes updates will download and want to automatically install.
There are a few threads here explaining how to download and extract the updates. I've never gone that far myself.
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That's where you have to be careful. Sometimes updates will download and want to automatically install.
There are a few threads here explaining how to download and extract the updates. I've never gone that far myself.
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Well I will do this and If anything comes up Ill be sure to post it in a thread or here. Probably a new thread and a link here.
Does it matter that i am still on 2.3.4 because i don't want to update the firmware and lose the ability to unlock the bootloader if i please.