I am looking at getting my first Android phone and my first data plan. I would like to sign up for the 200mb plan and use WiFi where I can. Have others done this successfully? I hear about programs that still use the AT&T network even though they are on WiFi. I hear that some software programs make help you manage your data use. I heard that you can have AT&T cut off the data stream if you hit your limit. Others say that you can not do this. AT&T told me at one place that you can not do this and another stated you can for $5 a month. They called it Smart Limits but looking at it on line it seems to be for kid use and not data limits.
Maybe I am better off paying $25 a month and getting 2gb? I really don't want to even pay $15 a month.
So what are others doing if you have a 200mb plan? Thx and I can't wait to get my GSII on Friday!
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I am looking at getting my first Android phone and my first data plan. I would like to sign up for the 200mb plan and use WiFi where I can. Have others done this successfully? I hear about programs that still use the AT&T network even though they are on WiFi. I hear that some software programs make help you manage your data use. I heard that you can have AT&T cut off the data stream if you hit your limit. Others say that you can not do this. AT&T told me at one place that you can not do this and another stated you can for $5 a month. They called it Smart Limits but looking at it on line it seems to be for kid use and not data limits.
Maybe I am better off paying $25 a month and getting 2gb? I really don't want to even pay $15 a month.
So what are others doing if you have a 200mb plan? Thx and I can't wait to get my GSII on Friday!
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Impossible. Just going on youtube and watching a hd music video will get you close to 200mb.
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I am using 200M and find it enough for me.
During the day I use wifi in office, at home I use home wifi. When I am using data, I try not to stream video, audio etc.
Man, once you get your phone you'll see that you go threw that 200MB so fast. ID suggest to AT LEAST get 2GB , if not more.
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Impossible. Just going on youtube and watching a hd music video will get you close to 200mb.
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I find that anything less than 5gb is crippling on a smart phone. then again I'm not a huge believer of WiFi. its just an inconvenience... I'd go with the 2gb plan.
My wife has been easily keeping it under 200mb.
There are apps on the market that can warn you about your limit like netcounter.
Juicedefender can be set to disable background internet and only check at certain intervals. Saves quite a bit on data.
As well as droidapn. That makes it easy to stop all mobile data.
So yes a 200mb limit is very do-able. Just be smart about it (wifi, wifi, wifi!) and don't do data intensive things while on mobile (like Pandora or YouTube) and leave sync off.
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My wife and I both have 200mb and have never gone over. I am just on wifi when I'm doing anything big on it really.
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Maybe I am better off paying $25 a month and getting 2gb? I really don't want to even pay $15 a month.
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I have 2.5GB i never go above 200mb, but only if i browse and ocasionally watch some youtube videos. If u wanna use tethering and to download music and watch a lot of youtube ur gonna need more MBs )
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Guess it depends on wether or not you believe in WiFi or not. XD
Start with the 2gb plan for the first few months, see how you do with data and get/keep the data plan that will best suit your usage.
Personally id go with the 2gig plan, no fun being out and about and having to think "hmm is this going to eat up too much data if i do this or that?". With 2gb you can just use without having to worry about usage (for the most part)
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I started with 200mb on my iPhone 4 and had to move to 2gb since every month I was getting near 200mb and I had to monitor my usage quite frequently. With 2gb, I usually consume about 1gb per month and I just switched to unlimited today (iPhone 2g loophole), probably will consume more now on since I would stream radio using Tunein
It depends on what you want to do. I TRY to use wifi as much as possible when I am around it but I also find myselfusing data quite a bit. If I am at work the wifi signal can be crappy in my office so streaming can be jerky. Plus I am almost daily downloading a nightly rom (except lately since nightlies haven't been available) and they are about 100Mb so I would use it up in two days for the month. Plus when I am away on weekends camping, or anything and away from the world so to speak as far as any wifi connections I still use my phone alot over the network and still update nightly when available.
I too would say fork over the $25 for 2Gb as I think it will be worth it compared to 200Mb a month. I am on the grandfathered unlimited data plan and I know I have used more than 2Gbs a month not even trying to.
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i use about 98 megs a month while my wife uses around 10 megs
sailador said:
i use about 98 megs a month while my wife uses around 10 megs
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How's this even possible?
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I am basically on wifi 99 percent of the time. I use My Data Manager to watch my data. You just have to be kinda careful that is it. As for my wife she never use the internet at all.
It really depends on what you plan on using the phone for. If you plan to use it alot for web browsing, email syncing, and other things that use data, then yes you will need 2gb,. If you are just getting it for a protable wifi netbook like thing, then 200mb is all you need, but you will blow through it quick if you aren't careful.
AT&T really needs a 1GB plan...
The market also now has an option that only downloads updates when on wi-fi, that should help save data too.
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That's ridiculous....
I usually avg. about 299mbs a day...
Youtube, mms pics, Netflix, Pandora, email
Gotta have something to do on my commute to work...
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I use wifi when ever I can. I almost use 200 MB daily. I generally see 6-7 GB monthly. If I was forced to the 2GB plan I would count down the days until I could cancel my contract and go to Sprint even though their coverage sucks where I live.
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My wife on her iPhone with basically Facebook and nothing else uses 800 MB monthly. She could live on 2GB. I think att is feeding everyone BS when they say 97% of smart phone users use less than 2GB.
Personally if you are using less than 200 MB I don't know why you would get a "smart" phone, especially a high end one. Att sells tons of "dumb" phones (or "quick messaging") that have web browsers and music players and touch screens etc that are cheaper.
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I've gone back and looked at my usage since the day I got my G1 when they first came out. The highest data usage I ever reached was 190~ MB.
I always connect to wifi when available, and never listen to streaming music/youtube on cellular data.
Check out mydatamanager in the market. It's a nice clean app that watches your data usage, per app. Separately on wifi and cellular. You can also set alerts when you get close to your max.
Bottom line, if you stay off streaming video/audio sites/apps, only update apps on wifi, etc, you'll be fine.
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I am looking at getting my first Android phone and my first data plan. I would like to sign up for the 200mb plan and use WiFi where I can. Have others done this successfully? I hear about programs that still use the AT&T network even though they are on WiFi. I hear that some software programs make help you manage your data use. I heard that you can have AT&T cut off the data stream if you hit your limit. Others say that you can not do this. AT&T told me at one place that you can not do this and another stated you can for $5 a month. They called it Smart Limits but looking at it on line it seems to be for kid use and not data limits.
Maybe I am better off paying $25 a month and getting 2gb? I really don't want to even pay $15 a month.
So what are others doing if you have a 200mb plan? Thx and I can't wait to get my GSII on Friday!
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In my opinion, I think Sprint should do a 10GB or 5GB data cap before throttling.
Why?
We will NEVER have decent speeds due to thousands of people abusing the "Unlimited"
If there was a cap, the people that are using their phones for home internet and torrenting using well over 30GB of data a month and they got throttled it would help the network A LOT!
Most of us dont even use more than 5 Gigs a month anyways.
The whole unlimited thing just isn't realistic
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In my opinion, I think Sprint should do a 10GB or 5GB data cap before throttling.
Why?
We will NEVER have decent speeds due to thousands of people abusing the "Unlimited"
If there was a cap, the people that are using their phones for home internet and torrenting using well over 30GB of data a month and they got throttled it would help the network A LOT!
Most of us dont even use more than 5 Gigs a month anyways.
The whole unlimited thing just isn't realistic
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I'm actually starting to think the same, I'm tired of having to be dealing with horrible internet speeds due to people who constantly brag about torrenting/downloading/tethering 10GB's+ a month, if they are so desperate they should just pay for home internet.
Yeah, having a data cap of 10Gigs or even 5 wouldnt be a problem. There is NO way we could use that much data unless we are torrenting or doing something ridiculous. Plus, we would have WAY better speeds
10 I'd be ok with 5 not so much
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I Completely Disagree
If you want a data cap go to Verizon and pay for the more decent speeds, If you want to be throttled go to T-Mobile. Sprint is marketing its unlimited data which brings it its customers. I agree that people are using too much but to each his own since they paid for Unlimited
Let the flaming begin
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10 I'd be ok with 5 not so much
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Yeah I could handle 10GB when I was with tmobile i use 5+ in under 2weeks
Now I average 7-11GB
No torrents or teathering
Just YouTube and email/web browsing
My question to the OP and anyone who thinks this is a good idea... "have YOU ever been throttled?
It sucks and I've had it stick for a few months in a row with tmobile... They gave me some nice credits but it was garbage that they couldn't even fix/turn it off when it should be...
Time will come when Sprint will have throttled/tiered data... But not any time this year or first quarter so I'm good (contract ends in June)
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I am going to agree, tiered data plans are the only way we will ever see good speeds. The unlimited can stay but not at current pricing. You are completely right, because the people that abuse it are the ones too cheap to get separate internet plans for home and mobile. They are the ones destroying our speeds. At the same time, some of the problem is sprints network equipment, but when you can do a speed test and see higher upload speeds than download, that is a symptom of capacity, too many people using the download stream at the same time.
I do agree. Capping data would be great because
-It will stop people from using it as their primary connection
-It will make more people go on WiFi when they are at their homes
-People will stop using data like crazy
If they do cap it, it should be reasonable like 3-5GB cap or if you have 2+ people (family plan) 8-10GB cap. This will actually help data speeds a lot. Remember how you got 2000 kb/s that time at 3am in the morning? Data will basically be that fast all the time.
Well I'm a hoger but I also like a cap so it can make me stop using so much even if I try to use a bit I go over so I'm trying to cut back so other can have 3g I do have 4g and lately this month I've been using it more thoe
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or the best way to have fast 3g all of us is sprint to add evdo rev b and advance to it 4g so we can use to but we know sprint is stupid and follow the blue and red haters
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I'm pretty sure it would suck just as bad with a data cap...
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I'm pretty sure it would suck just as bad with a data cap...
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exactly. their slow data has more to due to congestion (in terms of amount of people) than people abusing the unlimited data. remember, every one had unlimited data 1.5 years ago and did not have these speed issues you see on sprint.
Sounds good to me.
But I really wish that USA had a GSM dominated cellular market. HSPA+ is just sooo much better than 3G on Sprint...The one thing I really like about ATT and T-MO.
As long as Sprint continues to offer unconditional unlimited data people will use it to the maximum capacity. That is the nature of anything unlimited. As a result, quality decreases for all.
You should also be taking full advantage of your data, you pay for it and Sprint prides itself on providing it. Think of it as a buffet.
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Sounds good to me.
But I really wish that USA had a GSM dominated cellular market. HSPA+ is just sooo much better than 3G on Sprint...The one thing I really like about ATT and T-MO.
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That n phones could be used anywhere in the world lol
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i have a 30mb connection at my home that i pay for, i still use 20-30gb a month because I'm not home, I'm a truck driver. i vpn to my home network, i netflix, i YouTube. it is against the TOS to torrent but i don't on sprint because i can at home then download the tottered objects through tonido and subsonic.
there is a market for unlimited, i couldn't go to Verizon or att because i can't afford the $300 monthly bill
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My question to the OP and anyone who thinks this is a good idea... "have YOU ever been throttled?
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I was throttled on T-Mobile... I hated it with the passion of a thousand burning suns
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I use Netflix and YouTube and other various streams while I am at work, and when I need a program I download it on my phone and some tethering.... I use well over 8gb a month... and that's just me, there are three people on my plan (who use significantly less) Fastest connection I can get at home is a 768kbps and I'm too far away to use the WiFi on my phone (not that I use my phone at home anyways) but I tether when my sisters decide to rape our house connection. I don't torrent with it but I still use a ton of data.
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I use Netflix and YouTube and other various streams while I am at work, and when I need a program I download it on my phone and some tethering.... I use well over 8gb a month... and that's just me, there are three people on my plan (who use significantly less) Fastest connection I can get at home is a 768kbps and I'm too far away to use the WiFi on my phone (not that I use my phone at home anyways) but I tether when my sisters decide to rape our house connection. I don't torrent with it but I still use a ton of data.
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That's another point why it will suck when and if they throttle...
Netflix cannot be watch let alone youtube... And don't get me started on the lonely nights my girlfriend is out of town and I watch pRon..... It all would be impossible...
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I Completely Disagree
If you want a data cap go to Verizon and pay for the more decent speeds, If you want to be throttled go to T-Mobile. Sprint is marketing its unlimited data which brings it its customers. I agree that people are using too much but to each his own since they paid for Unlimited
Let the flaming begin
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I guess you didnt see the wsj about Sprints unlimited data today? I hope you all don't expect Sprint to still have unlimited data by the end of 2012.
I'm obviously an AT&T subscriber with unlimited data. I know that back in early October AT&T started throttling their "top 5%" heaviest data users. Me being the curious person I am, wanted to find out what it took to get yourself into the top 5% and the results were shocking.
Last month, I set my phone up to download ungodly amounts of podcasts, mostly video podcasts. I managed to get my data usage up to 27 gigs.
Proof:
http://i.imgur.com/R9hV7.png
http://i.imgur.com/2CWKH.png
I received no notice informing me that I was in the top 5%. During this same billing period, I was noticing users complaining on XDA that they were getting warnings from AT&T about being in the top 5%. When it was asked how much data it took them to get into the top 5%, it seemed to be right around the 5 gig mark. It was then asked what data consuming apps they were using. In their response it seemed to be that netflix was a common factor to get flagged to be in the top 5%.
This month, I started using netflix on my phone just to see if I would get flagged at the 5 gig mark...Low and behold, I received the warning yesterday notifying me I was in the top 5%, right at the 5 gig mark. All it took was for me to watch one movie.
Proof:
http://i.imgur.com/1A7Ne.png
http://i.imgur.com/k7mWx.png
http://i.imgur.com/kqcG1.png
So this is why I believe its rigged, out of all the unlimited data subscribers AT&T has, they're telling me from month to month there is a 22 gig difference in what it takes to be in the top 5%? It seems as though this is a major anti-net neutrality move on AT&T's part against netflix traffic.
Nice find. I'll be care about using Netflix over 3G.
edit: Good point Red.
Perhaps because you used 27 gigs last month, it red flagged your account and automatically dropped you into the top 5%?
Id be curious to see someone who has never been in the top 5% and start using Netflix alot to see if they get flagged... and then to have someone who has never been flagged and use 27 gigs of data and see if they are automatically dropped into the 5% bracket.
I am not advising, telling or suggesting anyone to use 27 gigs of data or to use Netflix!
Last month I used 4GB using netflix in a week. 2GB was tethering my phone to my TV and using Netflix on my TV, because its faster than my home connection. I ended the month with 8GB, using WiFi at home where I usually don't (Because its slower). I use occasional netflix, but last month was definitely more than usual. Normal for me is 6-7GB. I have never been notified that I was in the top 5%.
Maybe they use a moving average, or the calendar month instead of billing cycle.
There is a lot of mystery with the to 5%, just like tethering detection, I think we can guess at what we think they do, but I don't think we will ever know what they really do.
Plus they may focus on different markets, based on speed and congestion, I live in an area with HSPA+(according to AT&T), but never see faster than 3Mbps, usually see 1.5-2. Maybe top 5% is based on time/speed of connection vs MB downloaded.
Thanks for reporting your observances, but I don't think its just a Netflix based trigger.
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Last month I used 4GB using netflix in a week. 2GB was tethering my phone to my TV and using Netflix on my TV, because its faster than my home connection... I live in an area with HSPA+(according to AT&T), but never see faster than 3Mbps, usually see 1.5-2.
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You use your phone because its faster than your home connection, yet you only see 1.5-2Mbps? Damn.
Based on this info with Netflix involved, I bet the usage of 27Mbps red flagged his account and auto put him in the 5% category.
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You use your phone because its faster than your home connection, yet you only see 1.5-2Mbps? Damn.
Based on this info with Netflix involved, I bet the usage of 27Mbps red flagged his account and auto put him in the 5% category.
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So why would they choose to throttle me this month when last month was the one that was excessive? You'd think they would try to be proactive and never let me get to 27gigs rather than reactive and wait until the next month when I'm only at 5gigs.
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funny I actually got a text too about 5% thing.. from watching netflix. I before netflix I would about the same amount of data and no notice. If they do it we you use netflix wouldn't that counts as spying
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This thread just proves my theory: Canceling Netflix a couple weeks back was the right thing to do!
In all seriousness, I'm interested to see how this plays out. Seems pretty lame for them to throttle your speed after the fact - unless like Red said, you got 'flagged' first and then they took notice.
I just recently moved and have been with-out home internet for a week and a half. (time warner is coming tomorrow). I have been tethering for that time watching netflix and anything involving using the internet. I was am generally a lite data user 2gb or less a month. This past week I have 5gb, so I will let the community know if I get a text or I get throttled.
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I use Netflix at work all the time just to watch old series I miss.
I usually hit around 3GB around the middle of my Billing cycle not month. Last month I hit over 7GB and never got a text from att
I attached my last one. Shows i'm only 2 Weeks into my Billing cycle
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colbynmeghan said:
I use Netflix at work all the time just to watch old series I miss.
I usually hit around 3GB around the middle of my Billing cycle not month. Last month I hit over 7GB and never got a text from att
I attached my last one. Shows i'm only 2 Weeks into my Billing cycle
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Data unlimited and data deactivated?
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Data unlimited and data deactivated?
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Upgrade most likely. Or plan change.
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There is a lot of mystery with the to 5%, just like tethering detection, I think we can guess at what we think they do, but I don't think we will ever know what they really do.
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You'd think that with the enormous community we've got here at XDA, we'd have SOMEONE who knows. Or maybe someone does but figures they'll get canned if they spill the beans.
I'm thinking about bringing this info up with at&t on Facebook or twitter. They have fairly decent support through social media and i wont have to give my account info (hopefully) which would probably put a huge flag on my account.
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I just got the "top 5%" text.
My data usage last billing cycle was my highest so far: 1.2 GB.
I have an unlimited plan, and I've only tethered to download a few emails then disconnect.
I feel like this is pretty messed up. I'm paying for unlimited but they are going to throttle me after 1.2 gigs?
What can I do? This just feels outrageous and wrong.
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I just got the "top 5%" text.
My data usage last billing cycle was my highest so far: 1.2 GB.
I have an unlimited plan, and I've only tethered to download a few emails then disconnect.
I feel like this is pretty messed up. I'm paying for unlimited but they are going to throttle me after 1.2 gigs?
What can I do? This just feels outrageous and wrong.
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That is insane when they have a plan that is capped at 2GB. You should have access to a significantly greater amount than 1.2GBs
switters1 said:
I just got the "top 5%" text.
My data usage last billing cycle was my highest so far: 1.2 GB.
I have an unlimited plan, and I've only tethered to download a few emails then disconnect.
I feel like this is pretty messed up. I'm paying for unlimited but they are going to throttle me after 1.2 gigs?
What can I do? This just feels outrageous and wrong.
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Just document everything in case they try bs'ing you into losing unlimited. Go into a corporate store and lay everything on them. There's no way they can agree with at&t saying you're in the top 5%.
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kletiz said:
So why would they choose to throttle me this month when last month was the one that was excessive? You'd think they would try to be proactive and never let me get to 27gigs rather than reactive and wait until the next month when I'm only at 5gigs.
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As others have said - their metering system may not be synced to billing cycles, or based on a moving average (ignores brief "spikes" but does not ignore sustained high usage).
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I upgraded my line in early November
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I actually had a similar thing but Netflix wasn't the issue.
In October I used 10GB data, which is the most I've ever used, yet I can't see how I pulled it off. Last month I used a bit over 5GB of data (According to AT&T yet my data logging app (Onovo) showed me using 4.2GB, I was flagged and warned by AT&T stating that next time I will be throttled, it probably takes 2 months to do it. First month is a "Grace Period" then the second month you hit high numbers it warns you, 3rd month, BAM throttled. Sucks, so what I'm trying is to see if I can keep my usage down for 2-3 months, and then test higher usage to see if I get flagged, there probably is some sort of counter that resets the warning.
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I'm obviously an AT&T subscriber with unlimited data. I know that back in early October AT&T started throttling their "top 5%" heaviest data users. Me being the curious person I am, wanted to find out what it took to get yourself into the top 5% and the results were shocking.
Last month, I set my phone up to download ungodly amounts of podcasts, mostly video podcasts. I managed to get my data usage up to 27 gigs.
Proof:
http://i.imgur.com/R9hV7.png
http://i.imgur.com/2CWKH.png
I received no notice informing me that I was in the top 5%. During this same billing period, I was noticing users complaining on XDA that they were getting warnings from AT&T about being in the top 5%. When it was asked how much data it took them to get into the top 5%, it seemed to be right around the 5 gig mark. It was then asked what data consuming apps they were using. In their response it seemed to be that netflix was a common factor to get flagged to be in the top 5%.
This month, I started using netflix on my phone just to see if I would get flagged at the 5 gig mark...Low and behold, I received the warning yesterday notifying me I was in the top 5%, right at the 5 gig mark. All it took was for me to watch one movie.
Proof:
http://i.imgur.com/1A7Ne.png
http://i.imgur.com/k7mWx.png
http://i.imgur.com/kqcG1.png
So this is why I believe its rigged, out of all the unlimited data subscribers AT&T has, they're telling me from month to month there is a 22 gig difference in what it takes to be in the top 5%? It seems as though this is a major anti-net neutrality move on AT&T's part against netflix traffic.
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At 2.9 gb for the month. In 3g area I usually get about 1.4 upload on speed test. Now in getting .19 consistently ....
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At 2.9 gb for the month. In 3g area I usually get about 1.4 upload on speed test. Now in getting .19 consistently ....
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You had probally reached your data plan limit, now you are running in a lower donwload speeds. Thanks
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Have grandfathered unlimited data plan so. I couldn't have reached limit on plan
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I have grandfathered unlimited data as well. I have not noticed this and I often go over 200/300 gigs a month as I use my phone as my sole internet source.
I am curious if they ever do throttle grandfathered unlimited data users.
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...I often go over 200/300 gigs a month as I use my phone as my sole internet source.
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This is why carriers have gone to tiered data.. just sayin'
Touch-ee said:
I have grandfathered unlimited data as well. I have not noticed this and I often go over 200/300 gigs a month as I use my phone as my sole internet source.
I am curious if they ever do throttle grandfathered unlimited data users.
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Me too... At work streaming pandora & at home playing FPS games & downloading videos, movies... lol I dont use that much though... damn
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This is why carriers have gone to tiered data.. just sayin'
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No, they went to tiered data so they can bill the end user for more money while instilling the belief that people are using too much data and they can't support it.
It reminds me of the early 80s when the gas prices climbed to .75¢ a gallon and the gloom and doom prophets said the outrageous price increase was because of a limited supply, and the world would be completely devoid of fossil fuels by...wait for it...1987. Now, I have looked around, and I see that people, nearly 30 years after the world ran out of gas, are still buying the same old BS and paying upwards of $5 a gallon...while the price in Venezuela on Monday was...get this...18¢ a gallon after converting to USD.
So, don't buy the whole limited bandwidth BS. My school has multiple Gigabit connections and probably runs through more data than the average small country because its a super computing node for some high end government cluster. I asked one of the EE professors how close they were to maxing out the fiber optic line coming in and he said "oh, occasionally we will hit half a percent of total capacity".
Moral of the story: they charge you more for tiered data because you will pay it.
Now, calling someone a ****ing moron because you believe the utter BS that a greed filled multinational conglomerate feeds you about why they want to charge you more dollars for less product is somewhat odepian in nature don't you think?
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This is why carriers have gone to tiered data.. just sayin'
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Hey, I pay the $30 a month for the wireless tethering even though I know there are ways around it. I always pay my bill on time and I have been a loyal Verizon customer for years... So you bet I'm going to use the crap out of my grandfathered in unlimited data!!! Why would I pay another $100 a month to Verizon for Fios which would just give me what I already have through my phone...? INTERNET ACCESS!!!
While ATT truly throttles their customers based on TOTAL download, VZW's stance as I'm told prior to switching a few days ago, is: If you're on a particular tower and it is congested and you've used over 2 Gigs, your traffic will be "optimized" at a preferable speed to allow other users to use the service. So, they throttle based on tower congestion.. much fairer. If you connect to a different tower, then all the "throttling / optimization" goes away and you should be back to your normal 3g/4g speeds..until you return to the throttled tower.
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Have grandfathered unlimited data plan so. I couldn't have reached limit on plan
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Yep! Unlimited data plans are not that much unlimited. you have probably a caped internet, complain about it. :/
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Good day you used over 300GB and you still get good speed?
Do you drop data and if so does it happen more then 1 time a week?
I would like to know, becuase I have had some isuses and I don't know how/if I can fix it.
Thanks
Well I was at about 72GB yesterday and I downloaded a 13GB torrent file and was getting over 1.5MB down... So no I don’t think I was being throttled.
Complete ameture or "noob" as you guys say. Are these razrs simply not meant for 3g? I mean it works, but I had an iphone before and it took no time for a song on pandora to buffer. it takes an eternity on my razr.. Obviously the phone isn't firing on all cylinders in 3g but let's just say Iphone 3g > RAZR 3g. Somebody care to call me out and explain?
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Droped data 3 times today in two places with -69dbm to -86dbm or 3-5 bars. It's really starting to bug me.
Me too, I came into android with the impression that everything was supposed to be more open and free, well I definitely feel tied down when I'm in 5 bars 3g blue lettering, and I start an app and it goes white lettering. It's ridiculous. I didn't understand what Sprint was talking about in those commercials talking about other companies slowing your data down, I fully understand what they mean now. I like android a lot, but this pisses me off.
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Me too, I came into android with the impression that everything was supposed to be more open and free, well I definitely feel tied down when I'm in 5 bars 3g blue lettering, and I start an app and it goes white lettering. It's ridiculous. I didn't understand what Sprint was talking about in those commercials talking about other companies slowing your data down, I fully understand what they mean now. I like android a lot, but this pisses me off.
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I really think this has more to do with your location than a blanket policy. I'm in Boston and the coverage is great here and I never have any of these issues.
You guys are seeing data-dropping and 3G/4G hand-off issues (not throttling). I see this often on the west side of Indianapolis. I spoke to VZW about it today:
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/97c770a3e8
I have been reading a lot in to it and I think thats it. It falls inline with what I was told about the phone geting an update. (He said it could very well be ICS too, but that seems unlikely now.)
This is the last thing that I would ever think to go bad with a motorola phone. I could see the GPU or CPU sucking or the FC all over, but I ever would have guessed data droping. Now I am starting to wish I got the 720p HTC phone.
I have a high degree of confidence that the issues will be resolved and that Motorola will remain the best hardware choice going forward on USA CDMA networks.
I am curious about what is "a lot" of data to one person compared to another. I have heard 2 GB described as "a lot" of data before, and I have also head 150 GB described as "a lot."
So what is "a lot" to you? How much data in a month do you go through? (Or, since you've owned the phone)
How much do you think is "too much" data to be using in a month?
What do you do that uses a lot of Data? (Downloads, Online Videos/Netflix/Youtube, Tethering?)
What do you do the most on your Sprint phone you feel you couldn't on other providers?
How much data in a month would you go through on a previous Sprint WiMAX phone? (If applicable)
How much data in a month would you go through on a previous non-Sprint smartphone? (If applicable)
How much data in a month would you go through when using a different phone?
Discussion welcome. I think this will be interesting to see from different users' perspectives. Also if anyone has had their account terminated for excessive data on Sprint or any other provider, please pipe in
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I am curious about what is "a lot" of data to one person compared to another. I have heard 2 GB described as "a lot" of data before, and I have also head 150 GB described as "a lot."
So what is "a lot" to you? How much data in a month do you go through? (Or, since you've owned the phone)
How much do you think is "too much" data to be using in a month?
What do you do that uses a lot of Data? (Downloads, Online Videos/Netflix/Youtube, Tethering?)
What do you do the most on your Sprint phone you feel you couldn't on other providers?
How much data in a month would you go through on a previous Sprint WiMAX phone? (If applicable)
How much data in a month would you go through on a previous non-Sprint smartphone? (If applicable)
How much data in a month would you go through when using a different phone?
Discussion welcome. I think this will be interesting to see from different users' perspectives. Also if anyone has had their account terminated for excessive data on Sprint or any other provider, please pipe in
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My Data Average usage is with:
Pandora ( modded ) ~ 11gb/mo
Netflix ~ 4gb/mo
FB, and others 1.5gb/mo
So nearly 17gb is a lot for me
How much do you think is "too much" data to be using in a month?
-2+GB/month
What do you do that uses a lot of Data?
-Google Music,Navigation,Youtube(when im actually in a good svs area,which is never.F YOU SPRINT)
What do you do the most on your Sprint phone you feel you couldn't on other providers?
-Nothing,really close to going to Verizon
How much data in a month would you go through on a previous Sprint WiMAX phone?
-Same because i never turned 4G on because Wimax sucked(980MB/month)
How much data in a month would you go through on a previous non-Sprint smartphone?
-same because their network has been **** for well over 4 years now(980MB/month)
How much data in a month would you go through when using a different phone?
-Same because no matter what phone I had the network was still the same(read above)
I use about 980MB/month
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How much do you think is "too much" data to be using in a month?
-2+GB/month
What do you do that uses a lot of Data?
-Google Music,Navigation,Youtube(when im actually in a good svs area,which is never.F YOU SPRINT)
What do you do the most on your Sprint phone you feel you couldn't on other providers?
-Nothing,really close to going to Verizon
How much data in a month would you go through on a previous Sprint WiMAX phone?
-Same because i never turned 4G on because Wimax sucked
How much data in a month would you go through on a previous non-Sprint smartphone?
-same because their network has been **** for well over 4 years now
How much data in a month would you go through when using a different phone?
-Same because no matter what phone I had the network was still the same(read above)
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You seem a littler butthurt that you live in a bad coverage area. Thanks for coming in my thread and contributing though :good:
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You seem a littler butthurt that you live in a bad coverage area. Thanks for coming in my thread and contributing though :good:
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That's the thing...I don't.This is just Sprints network.
Data usage
The last month I had my EVO 3D, I did about 13GB on 4G and 350MB on 3G. I had a lot of podcasts and I have a media server for streaming my recorded TV. I can only imagine that was a regular occurance. I never looked before. I was worried what no 4G would be like. Since I am on the EVO LTE without a network, I am wifi for most of my data now.
So what is "a lot" to you? How much data in a month do you go through? (Or, since you've owned the phone)
How much do you think is "too much" data to be using in a month? 125GB
What do you do that uses a lot of Data? (Downloads, Online Videos/Netflix/Youtube, Tethering?) Netflix, Pandora, tTorrent
What do you do the most on your Sprint phone you feel you couldn't on other providers? Use actual unlimited data
How much data in a month would you go through on a previous Sprint WiMAX phone? (If applicable) This is from this month on my 4G tablet, I have 17 days left in the billing cycle.
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How much data in a month would you go through when using a different phone? I plan on going through about the same amount on my EVO LTE (when I get LTE) that I do with my WiMax tablet.
^Using that much data per month is part of the reason why no one else is unlimited anymore.
I get the whole "Hey man it says Unlimited,yeeeeHaw Bandwidth here I come"
But 40GB/month is abuse.
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I get the whole "Hey man it says Unlimited,yeeeeHaw Bandwidth here I come"
But 40GB/month is abuse.
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I've been using ~80GB a month for the past almost 3 years now. That much data usage is honestly nothing. It's not my fault that you people only use your phone once maybe twice a day and listen to maybe one song off of Pandora. I work 10 hour shifts 4 days a week and like to listen to music/have movies playing while I work. It's not my fault that it burns through a decent amount of data.
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I've been using ~80GB a month for the past almost 3 years now. That much data usage is honestly nothing. It's not my fault that you people only use your phone once maybe twice a day and listen to maybe one song off of Pandora. I work 10 hour shifts 4 days a week and like to listen to music/have movies playing while I work. It's not my fault that it burns through a decent amount of data.
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I like this guy haha. 40GB is awesome. I would love to see ATT and Verizon offer this. They can't. That's why Sprint is the best and will be the best as long as they offer unlimited data.
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I get the whole "Hey man it says Unlimited,yeeeeHaw Bandwidth here I come"
But 40GB/month is abuse.
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If Sprint wasn't hanging on by a thread already, they would most definitely cap their data. There are more people who abuse the crap out of the network than you think. You can use any excuse you want, it's lame. When Sprint cleans their network up and they can roll with the big boys, we will be capped....and you can thank people who "Stream movies and pandora" all week while at work, but hey, it's not their fault
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I am curious about what is "a lot" of data to one person compared to another. I have heard 2 GB described as "a lot" of data before, and I have also head 150 GB described as "a lot."
So what is "a lot" to you? How much data in a month do you go through? (Or, since you've owned the phone)
How much do you think is "too much" data to be using in a month?
What do you do that uses a lot of Data? (Downloads, Online Videos/Netflix/Youtube, Tethering?)
What do you do the most on your Sprint phone you feel you couldn't on other providers?
How much data in a month would you go through on a previous Sprint WiMAX phone? (If applicable)
How much data in a month would you go through on a previous non-Sprint smartphone? (If applicable)
How much data in a month would you go through when using a different phone?
Discussion welcome. I think this will be interesting to see from different users' perspectives. Also if anyone has had their account terminated for excessive data on Sprint or any other provider, please pipe in
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How much do you think is "too much" data to be using in a month? 30+ if on 3g otherwise if your on wimax then go nuts, no limit from me. (but seriously if you get 100+ then damn, get some sunlight haha)
What do you do that uses a lot of Data? (Downloads, Online Videos/Netflix/Youtube, Tethering?) youtube probably the most don't do much else other than check xda every 5 minutes haha
What do you do the most on your Sprint phone you feel you couldn't on other providers? actually use the internet haha damn them other carriers and their throttling
How much data in a month would you go through on a previous Sprint WiMAX phone? (If applicable) on my og evo i would tether on that slut like it was my day job when anywhere on vacation so if out of town 20gb give or take but thats if im there a whole month. otherwise the same as this phone, maybe 2 just xda, general browsing, and some youtube.
How much data in a month would you go through on a previous non-Sprint smartphone? (If applicable) been with sprint forever
How much data in a month would you go through when using a different phone? like i said above with my og maybe 2gb or 20gb if out of town for forever and a half haha
15gb so far
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If Sprint wasn't hanging on by a thread already, they would most definitely cap their data. There are more people who abuse the crap out of the network than you think. You can use any excuse you want, it's lame. When Sprint cleans their network up and they can roll with the big boys, we will be capped....and you can thank people who "Stream movies and pandora" all week while at work, but hey, it's not their fault
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I don't see why a guy can't stream music at work all day if he wants to. That's like saying you can't use your unlimited texts, you should only send like 100 a month or it is abuse. That's silly. You pay for unlimited, you do what you want.
PS I use less than a gig a month.
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PsiPhiDan said:
I don't see why a guy can't stream music at work all day if he wants to. That's like saying you can't use your unlimited texts, you should only send like 100 a month or it is abuse. That's silly. You pay for unlimited, you do what you want.
PS I use less than a gig a month.
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We pay for unlimited but we still have to operate within reason. Sprint may be pushing their unlimited data now, but they may not in the future, and users who abuse the unlimited data plan aren't going to help them make a decision.
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I don't see why a guy can't stream music at work all day if he wants to. That's like saying you can't use your unlimited texts, you should only send like 100 a month or it is abuse. That's silly. You pay for unlimited, you do what you want.
PS I use less than a gig a month.
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I get that, but texts aren't back loading and taxing the bejesus out of the network either. I mean, 80 gigs in a month when the other carriers are offering like 5gb a month plans? How long do you honestly think sprint will be unlimited with that mess?
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I get that, but texts aren't back loading and taxing the bejesus out of the network either. I mean, 80 gigs in a month when the other carriers are offering like 5gb a month plans? How long do you honestly think sprint will be unlimited with that mess?
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That's like saying I should use as little internet as possible at home as well. No, I'm sorry but I'm giving Sprint $130 a month (Phone and tablet) I should be allowed to use as much 4G data as I want. Limit the 3G use because that is what 99% of people use, sure. But for the amount of money they rake in every month we should be able to use all the 4G we want. End of story.
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That's like saying I should use as little internet as possible at home as well. No, I'm sorry but I'm giving Sprint $130 a month (Phone and tablet) I should be allowed to use as much 4G data as I want. Limit the 3G use because that is what 99% of people use, sure. But for the amount of money they rake in every month we should be able to use all the 4G we want. End of story.
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Lol
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I'm looking for the actual contract text, not someone's summary. This is because someone said that even unlimited data was capped at 5gb and that this fact was well known. The agreement I've found here only says that " if you use an extraordinary amount of data and fall within the top 5% of Verizon Wireless data users we may reduce your data throughput speeds periodically for the remainder of your then current and immediately following billing cycle to ensure high quality network performance for other users at locations and times of peak demand." I can't find the 5gb number anywhere. That was updated in February, so that may be why. I joined Verizon after unlimited was ended for new subs, so I can't look at mine. Thanks.
There are people here that use 10-20GB+... was even one person that had a little over 1TB of data used...
It's not capped at 5GB, the 5GB number was for tethering if you paid the extra $30 for the tethering application.
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It's not capped at 5GB, the 5GB number was for tethering if you paid the extra $30 for the tethering application.
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No in the contract it says if u use over 5GB they CAN terminate you contract. Apparently they don't but the can
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There are people here that use 10-20GB+... was even one person that had a little over 1TB of data used...
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I know that, that's actually why I'm looking for this. I think unlimited is unlimited and these people are not abusing anything. (I'm not saying VZW ending unlimited is wrong, just the justification they gave, namely abuse and network congestion [since they throttle the heavy users during that time anyway])
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It's not capped at 5GB, the 5GB number was for tethering if you paid the extra $30 for the tethering application.
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That would make sense as well, though that's an awfully low number. What's the point of tethering if that's all you can get?
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No in the contract it says if u use over 5GB they CAN terminate you contract. Apparently they don't but the can
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Can you link to the contract? Or scan one, or send a pdf? I'd like to actually see that instead of someone just telling me. Because someone else saying "no it doesn't" is just as valid an argument.
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I'm looking for the actual contract text, not someone's summary. This is because someone said that even unlimited data was capped at 5gb and that this fact was well known. The agreement I've found here only says that " if you use an extraordinary amount of data and fall within the top 5% of Verizon Wireless data users we may reduce your data throughput speeds periodically for the remainder of your then current and immediately following billing cycle to ensure high quality network performance for other users at locations and times of peak demand." I can't find the 5gb number anywhere. That was updated in February, so that may be why. I joined Verizon after unlimited was ended for new subs, so I can't look at mine. Thanks.
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There is no set number for unlimited data. That 5 gb is just an arbitrary number people have been throwing around here for a long time as to what was the top 5% number Verizon would use to slow down your data speed. I've exceeded it without any problems many times as have many others so its baseless.
I may have my receipt with the contract on it in the box for my Rezound, I'll see what I can come up with.
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There is no set number for unlimited data. That 5 gb is just an arbitrary number people have been throwing around here for a long time as to what was the top 5% number Verizon would use to slow down your data speed. I've exceeded it without any problems many times as have many others so its baseless.
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That's what I thought, but had no proof. I just get tired of people criticizing other people for using their bandwidth as much as they want. And, as it turns out, Verizon shouldn't've even been able to stop them from tethering, according to the FCC. I just wish Verizon would come out and say "we think we can make more money by ending unlimited data, so that's what we're doing". They won't, but I wish they would.
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There is no set number for unlimited data. That 5 gb is just an arbitrary number people have been throwing around here for a long time as to what was the top 5% number Verizon would use to slow down your data speed. I've exceeded it without any problems many times as have many others so its baseless.
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It was on Verizon's website it said if you have an unlimited plan you cant use it excessively. Excessive things include streaming video and downloading large files etc. If you use over 5 GB in a month you are using excessive amounts of data and your account can be terminated at our descretion basically. I read that from the Verizon website awhile ago, so its not arbitrary
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Interesting thread
*popcorngif*
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It was on Verizon's website it said if you have an unlimited plan you cant use it excessively. Excessive things include streaming video and downloading large files etc. If you use over 5 GB in a month you are using excessive amounts of data and your account can be terminated at our descretion basically. I read that from the Verizon website awhile ago, so its not arbitrary
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Link?
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This is an message my sister has been getting yesterday and today. She had been watching the Olympics at work. We have "unlimited data" on 3 lines.
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Idk if Its there anymore that was a while ago...
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I'm constantly over 10 GB worth of data per month. Last month was like 16+. Can they really terminate you for "excessive" use? Better start using WiFi more lol got spoiled with unlimited data.
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I'm constantly over 10 GB worth of data per month. Last month was like 16+. Can they really terminate you for "excessive" use? Better start using WiFi more lol got spoiled with unlimited data.
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I guess they could but they haven't done it at all yet. Maybe in a year or so they'll do that to get rid of unlimited data forever tho
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This is an message my sister has been getting yesterday and today. She had been watching the Olympics at work. We have "unlimited data" on 3 lines.
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That looks like a feature of the ROM, you can change the limit, or just leave it alone. It's designed for people with an actual cap to avoid overages.
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AshtonTS said:
I guess they could but they haven't done it at all yet. Maybe in a year or so they'll do that to get rid of unlimited data forever tho
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You know I've been worried about that ever since they got rid of truely unlimited and went to data packages. They better not do away with the grandfathered in plans. Wouldn't be surprised if they did tho.
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That looks like a feature of the ROM, you can change the limit, or just leave it alone. It's designed for people with an actual cap to avoid overages.
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She is running the stock ICS OTA for her Droid Raze MAXX. I'll look to see if there is an option to disable this feature when I get home from work. Otherwise Verizon will be getting a phone call from me. from my ADR6425LVW using Tapatalk 2
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Idk if Its there anymore that was a while ago...
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I guess they could but they haven't done it at all yet. Maybe in a year or so they'll do that to get rid of unlimited data forever tho
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So far I haven't seen anything beyond hearsay that there was an actual limit to unlimited.
But if there was, that's crap. A company shouldn't be allowed to call it unlimited if it's got a limit. That seems like a truth-in-advertising issue.
And by the way, if streaming video is excessive, why did they get the rights to NFL mobile whose main draw is streaming video? It's just disingenuous to advertise something if you're not going to allow people to use it.
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unlimited doesnt mean its capped at 5g. but in the older contracts they defined "unlimited data" as 5gb