AVG Antivirus battery drain? - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777

Has anybody checked their battery usage and noticed AVG anti virus just drains the crap out of the battey? I kill this app about 70 times a day because its running in the background always. I can understand running while installing an app or downloading something from browser. But why killing my battery while the device is idle? Anybody here not use anti virus at all? I thought about getting rid of it but I'm a frequently visit of "other" app markets not ran by google or Amazon. If it makes a difference, I'm running unnamed 1.3.1 with setcpu on conservative. Thanks all and have a nice Turkey day!
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Both my wife and I had an 'anti-virus' on our phones for a few months and nothing 'malicious' was ever found.
Nor have we ever had a 'bad' app. At least none that we had installed on our phones that got any news about it being malicious elsewhere on the internet.
Not saying it's not doing anything. But I haven't even heard of anyone being saved from a rogue app by having an anti-virus on their phone.
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I just checked, and it is at the bottom of the list. Did you set it to auto-scan daily our something? Or maybe you have a virus that it's trying to defend against.
My phone lasts 19 hours per charge with light-moderate use. I only see AVG when I install apps. I have never even see it do its weekly scan.
If you have AVG pro, maybe someone is using AVG's remote feature to track your GPS positions.
By the way, I hope that when you say that you keep killing it because it is running in the background, it is because you see it running in the task manager (hold down the home key), not in settings-> applications-> running services...because the items in the latter list are just services. Services are basically apps that get CPU time once in a while to see if anything needs to be done (they aren't using the CPU constantly like an app in the foreground would).

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Looking for an App

Hello all,
I went online to My Bell the other day to check up on my data usage, not at all concerned as I have a 6Gb/month plan & only used less than 1 Gb in my first month, even after downloading a ton of apps, do imagine my surprise when I used almost 4Gb so far! Fortunately, my month is almost over..... Obviously, there was an app that never closed properly and was constantly streaming data.... Over 2.3Gb in one session!
So, I was wondering if anyone knows of an app that will monitor how much data individual apps are using, so I can keep an eye on it, or perhaps get rid of it altogether...
Any help here would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
Polaris_999
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Did you try something as simple as typing "monitor data" into the Market? There are a ton of apps that do what you're asking.
-bZj
down8 said:
Did you try something as simple as typing "monitor data" into the Market? There are a ton of apps that do what you're asking.
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Of course I did...but so far, all I can find are apps that tell me the total data usage overall. What I'm looking for is an app that will break the data usage down by apps on my phone, telling me how much each individual app is using, so I can determine which one is hogging my data usage.....
So, if anyone knows of such an app, I would really appreciate a link to it!
Thanks!
Polaris_999
If you're running JI6 firmware you can long press the home button on your phone to pull up Samsung's task manager (it's in the app folder too). From there you can monitor what apps are running and kill off what's not needed.
What apps do you have installed that may be polling the net? Do you have sync on and polling every hour? Do you run Pandora/Slacker (those eat up a lot of bandwidth)? Any widgets that update news feeds/social status?
I know there's a few apps that monitor overall data usage but I'm not aware of anything that monitors individual apps and tells you what's using the most.
~SB
Thanks SB!
No, unfortunately, Bell hasn't pushed the JI6 firmware update out to its customers yet...I'm still on JH2....
Yeah...I know how to stop apps that way...I was just hoping that I could see which app has been hogging my bandwidth... Oh well...perhaps I have to keep track of what I'm doing & when I'm doing it, and see if that will work....a little archaic, but hopefully that'll work....
Thanks
Polaris_999
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[Q] Background launched/Running Apps

Hello,
Searched in this forum but couldn't find answer, so thanks for your expert feedback:
I'm using SGS2 since 2 weeks now and I'm happy with it. Except I can't stand one full day with a fully charged battery with a "normal" usage. But batterie matter is not my question
I installed some application, like news, games, etc, as well as "advanced task killer". When I open "Avanced Task Killer", I see so many apps that I didn not even opened: Gallery, Search, Maps, MI, Social Hub, and some games...
Do you know why such applications are running (or launched) itself? Checking RAM, still have enough free ram, but I really don't know why all those apps are lauched.
Doesn't matter, they are not what is causing your drain. If it's really bad it's either the wifi sharing issue or the router issue. Could you post a screen shot of your battery usage. Also atk does more harm than good for the average user.
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TheGhost1233 said:
Doesn't matter, they are not what is causing your drain. If it's really bad it's either the wifi sharing issue or the router issue. Could you post a screen shot of your battery usage. Also atk does more harm than good for the average user.
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Well, most of battery usage is due to display+Android OS+Android system (a total of 78%). But battery drain was not my question
Just wandering to know why I have so many apps running (or only launched) in background without I launch them (social hub, maps, gallery, game hub, and some games)
Because the galaxy s II has a massif RAM, once they are running there is no reason to kill them. If you check active services most of them should be cached and not actually running. Atleast the games, stuff like social hub will run always.
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These apps are running because that is how the android OS works. It opens things so they load faster next time. They ate supposed to be suspended so not using any resources in the background unless its a badly coded app.
Nothing you can do about it really.
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Anti-virus/malware

Anybody use an anti-virus or anti-malware app like Lookout or Kaspersky Mobile? Is it even necessary and do they have any adverse affects on functionality or battery life?
Never used any anti-virus apps in the 2 years I've been rooting my android phones. I've literally downloaded hundreds of zip files and flashed them onto my old moment and my current shift. Also I never use task killers.
Edit: Forgot to mention the effects on battery life, I cannot say for anti-virus on my phones but that is the reason I stopped using task killers, even if u kill the application it will keep trying to run in the background, same thing happens with the anti-virus apps. Plus the anti-virus app will pop up a notification asking you permission for everything, and scans every single last file you download. Correct me if I'm wrong just the experience I had bc i had to convince my gf family to take the anti-virus/task killers off their phones bc it was just wasting their battery life.
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Edit: Forgot to mention the effects on battery life, I cannot say for anti-virus on my phones but that is the reason I stopped using task killers, even if u kill the application it will keep trying to run in the background, same thing happens with the anti-virus apps. Plus the anti-virus app will pop up a notification asking you permission for everything, and scans every single last file you download. Correct me if I'm wrong just the experience I had bc i had to convince my gf family to take the anti-virus/task killers off their phones bc it was just wasting their battery life.
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That's what I'm wondering. I don't mind the pop-ups every time you download something but if it saps battery life, that would be a deal-breaker for me.
No noticeable difference with battery life. I use lookout only for locating phone and to make phone alarm from a secure web site. Once htcsense fixes/ improves their beta program of performing these same tasks I will use that
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Lookout is a must have
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I have used lookout several times and have not noticed any effect on battery life.
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I'm using NetQin Mobile Security Pro (it's free in the market)... Haven't really tested it much but seems really smooth and has a lot of positive reviews. It gives you a lot of options like managing data traffic, backup contacts, and phone finder (some extra features require pro membership). But yeah... It's not all that important with Android but there is always a slim chance you download a malicious app or something, never know.
I have lookout running and haven't noticed any real extra usage in battery because of it.
I used to use Advanced task killer but found it more of a nuisance. Never worried about anti-virus since everything is screened by google before being hosted in the market and if something gets by the can remotely uninstall it, then a hard reset will fix anything that the app could have damaged.
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I used to use Advanced task killer but found it more of a nuisance. Never worried about anti-virus since everything is screened by google before being hosted in the market and if something gets by the can remotely uninstall it, then a hard reset will fix anything that the app could have damaged.
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I thought Google let anything on their market, but screened apps brought to their attention by users or companies like Lookout. In fact, Lookout has reported many malicious apps in Google's market.
Plus a co-worker's wife was a victim of a malicious app from Google's market. It started making unwanted calls and texts. I think the extra safety net is worth the minor battery drain. I notice no difference in battery or performance. I still get well over 16 hours of battery (I still have 40% at that time). I use Lookout too since they seem to be the one reporting most malicious apps found.
So I've been using Lookout since yesterday and haven't noticed any difference in my battery life.
Just a quick tip for Lookout - you can schedule when you want it to scan all of your files in the settings. (for those concerned with battery life impact due to scanning).
Yup. I just have it set to scan once a week.
I use lookout and still get great battery life.
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Lookout is awesome. the way i see it, it scans my apps to make sure no bad app slipped through the cracks and most importantly i can "scream" my phone anytime from the website. also, the wipe feature is for premium customers but my thinking is that you could purchase at the time of losing the phone and still be able to lock and wipe the phone. definitely a must-have.
I use Lookout, I've used a few other anti malware apps and didn't like them. To many malicious apps on the Market to not have it.
Google only checks apps if they receive complaints.
Anybody have experience with Antivirus Free from Creative Apps? Seems to be less of a memory hog but I'm not sure how effective it is.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.zrgiu.antivirus
Anyone tried Super Security Standard? I've seemed to have good luck with it and it only scans when I tell it to or when I dowloadan app.
Kaspersky is developing a great mobile solution as well. One of the, if not the best desktop antivirus solutions next to NOD32
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Kaspersky is developing a great mobile solution as well. One of the, if not the best desktop antivirus solutions next to NOD32
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They already have one. It's a paid app.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.kms

Screen turns on by itself...

Hi,
I've noticed in the past couple of days that my screen turns on by itself for about 3 or 4 seconds.
Phone information in picture attached.
On the weekend I did an OTA update via Kies, on Wednesday I flashed This Kernel (SpeedMod S3) via Odin.
Anyone got any advice?
Thanks for your help
this usually happens when u have a certain app or a live wallpaper that does advertise on your phone ... try removing some apps that are for free but ad-supported or remove some live wallpapers and it should go away
Yeah thanks "striving-to-survive", I had noticed some notification adverts since the OTA update. I haven't added any apps. Unless its an app I updated. "AirPush Detector" used to tell me what was sending those notifications, however that detects nothing when I scan. Can anyone recommend something that does a similar job that might tell me where the notifications are coming from? I don't fancy just deleting a bunch of apps on the off chance they are the offender.
I do not think it is kernel related.
Download adfree and run it.
Also here in xda search for the app called
"Anti spy mobile free"
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I wasn't sure if it was kernel related, just wanted to give as much info as possible about what I had done recently with my phone.
I have Ad Free, but just realised I hadn't hit the "download and install hosts" button since my OTA update.
I got Anti Spy Mobile Free, after scanning that said I have no spywares, 4 suspicious apps: Contapps, Phone Backup (HChina), ooVoo & MyBackup Pro. None of which I think would be responsible.
Hopefully Ad Free will sort it out.
Thanks for your help
Same issue for me with stock fw and kernel. I have a battery brain since two days and I can see my screen on time up to 4 hours per day without using my phone.
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I wasn't sure if it was kernel related, just wanted to give as much info as possible about what I had done recently with my phone.
I have Ad Free, but just realised I hadn't hit the "download and install hosts" button since my OTA update.
I got Anti Spy Mobile Free, after scanning that said I have no spywares, 4 suspicious apps: Contapps, Phone Backup (HChina), ooVoo & MyBackup Pro. None of which I think would be responsible.
Hopefully Ad Free will sort it out.
Thanks for your help
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Update your hosts then and keep an eye on it. Check for hosts daily
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I have similar issue. My phone also turns screen on by itself, but it looks like it stays on until I turn it off. This have happened about 4 times during week or two...
I have tried AirPush detector. Didn't find anything.
Anti Spy Mobile found 0 Spywares and 2 Warnings. Light Flow Lite and TrustGo Security. I have had Light Flow Lite for a long time, so I doubt it can't be it. TrustGo is quite new, but I think it's trusted app. Could it be the reason..?
AdFree is working and I don't see ads.
What should I try next?

[APP]"Greenify" your battery

I already posted about this in the NRG ROM because that's the ROM I'm using, but I am so impressed with the battery improvement after using this app for a week that I had to cross post to a larger audience. I know the battery is the one major drawback on the Amaze. This is just not a problem for me anymore since I started using Greenify.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oasisfeng.greenify
I've been getting over 24 hours regularly with 3-4 hours screen time. I'm using NRG with stock kernel, but I see no reason why this app wouldn't offer improvement for any configuration. It enables effective hibernation of apps without freezing them. They'll run but only in the foreground. It cuts out all background processes of the apps you select.
You have total control over which apps you want running in the background and allows you to keep the aggressive battery hogs at bay. You select which apps should hibernate. For instance, now Google maps will really stay asleep when it's not being used, no constant wake locks, but unlike with freezing it, you can conveniently launch it when needed. However any apps with background processes that are actually useful are free to do their thing, eg, widgets you want to auto update. It's taming the beast that is android.
And not only is my battery improved, but my phone is more responsive too. Highly recommended. Here's the xda thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155737
thanks a lot for sharing this, will try it out, always wanted an app like this, the maps kill the battery for no good reason.
My pleasure. I hope your experience is as satisfying mine.
dosnt kill maps most apps remain in idle, pending hibernation mode.
EDIT, opened my eyes and read the FAQ. - maps not gonna die :|
Q: Some of my greenified apps (e.g. Google Maps) seems not hibernating.
A: In short, don't worry about frequently awake apps. It will still hibernate in minutes after screen goes off, thus hardly add observable battery consumption. Use battery statistics in settings or "BetterBatteryStats" to confirm that.
While most greenified apps will stay in hibernation quietly, some apps do break hibernation, due to being waken up by others. Some known cases include enabled account sync, backup agent, and explicit launch by other app.
Since version 1.45, Greenify will now automatically turn off directly involved account sync of greenified apps when going to hibernate, to avoid the periodic account sync wake them up. For backup agents, Greenify will NOT disable them, to ensure your backup of app data is always up-to-date. As backup usually does not perform often, they are thus unlikely to be waken up often.
Google Maps is a typical example of explicit launch by other app. Some Google apps, including Google Now (a.k.a Google Search), will start the NetworkLocationProvider of Google Maps for its proprietary implementation instead of the public Android one if Google Maps is installed.
Since Greenify is designed to not break any explicit usage of greenified apps, these behaviors are considered "normal", and will NOT be "fixed". To clear out your unease, Greenify will still put them into hibernation when standby to protect your battery consumption.
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dosnt kill maps most apps remain in idle, pending hibernation mode.
EDIT, opened my eyes and read the FAQ. - maps not gonna die :|
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You can manually put them into hibernation mode by selecting them, and hitting the pause button at the top of the screen. To help control maps make sure you don't have Google Now running or have it on in a very limited mode. (Google Now sucker punches battery. Honestly, I just presume that anyone interested in battery preservation has abandoned Google Now.) The other anti-maps tactic I use is to go to System Settings>>Location and disable "GPS satellites" and "Location & Google search." I can easily re-enable these through a widget I have set up when I need Maps capability, but it keeps the program quiet for the most part and Greenify does the rest.
The proof is in the screenshots. I never got any battery life like this before Greenify.
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The proof is in the screenshots. I never got any battery life like this before Greenify.
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but in those pics i also see juice defender running, so that may be playing a part too. also there are no phone calls, phone calls take a lot of juice.
regarless of that i have witnessed significant battery improvement with this app, i think i'll be giving a donation to this guy. he deserves it.
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but in those pics i also see juice defender running, so that may be playing a part too. also there are no phone calls, phone calls take a lot of juice.
regarless of that i have witnessed significant battery improvement with this app, i think i'll be giving a donation to this guy. he deserves it.
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Lol yea juice defender
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I've had Juice Defender going as long as I've had my phone. I use the customization in ultimate, but before Greenify, I was getting around 17 hours battery life. So JD has not been a variable for me in evaluating the app.
I'm not a big phone call maker, but I do use bluetooth for music streaming a lot. I think it was so minor in comparison to the screen usage that day that it probably didn't even register 1% battery usage.
So I'm giving it a try. This a pretty much a light app that kills the app you select when you aren't using it.
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Trying this out now but just thought I'd pass along some info that really helped me with maps. Using Autorun manager (free on playstore) I killed any process under map that had the word friend in it and it has made a big difference even though Latitude has been disabled since day 1. There are lots of other battery saving and wake lock preventing things you can do with this app.
Justin
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mestguy182 said:
Trying this out now but just thought I'd pass along some info that really helped me with maps. Using Autorun manager (free on playstore) I killed any process under map that had the word friend in it and it has made a big difference even though Latitude has been disabled since day 1. There are lots of other battery saving and wake lock preventing things you can do with this app.
Justin
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I did the same and it helped my battery life dramatically.
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mestguy182 said:
Trying this out now but just thought I'd pass along some info that really helped me with maps. Using Autorun manager (free on playstore) I killed any process under map that had the word friend in it and it has made a big difference even though Latitude has been disabled since day 1. There are lots of other battery saving and wake lock preventing things you can do with this app.
Justin
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Thanks for the tip. I am trying this out as well and after 2 days, my battery life has doubled. :good: Even works very well on my wife's GNex, where the battery life is worse than the Amaze

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