Hey guys:
I'm thinking about switching from my age-old HTC hero to the Photon, but since Moto has locked bootloaders (I see some threads about an unlocked with borked 4g, what is that?), and The Hero has good XDA support, what stuff can we do with this phone? I'd love to help, but ROM's, Kernels, Root, Unlocked Bootloader, and the issues with said stuff need to be known by me, and it's all over the place, so I don't really understand. Happy thanksgiving, and if you can let me know about this stuff it'd be great.
when you unlock the bootloader it breaks the 4G (so you won't be able to use it)
You can relock and get your 4g back.
Apparently devs are working on a solution for this.
I have owned htc inspire iphone 4 and the photon. The photon works great out of the box for me and only can get better. Right now i am unlocked with it overclocked to 1.2 ghz and the magnifier rom. But locked or unlocked to me its worth it. But it all depends on what you like in the phone. Battery life also is pretty good but i got the 3600mah mugen battery and lasts forever it seems now
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I just switched from my Evo 4G to the Photon this week. The OG Evo had a massive dev community, and it was great, but I am noticing that everything I used to need to hack my Evo to do, the photon does out of the box.
Now just because the bootloader is locked, doesn't mean you can't root. Root on this was actually incredibly easy with Photon Torpedo method. I haven't unlocked my bootloader, and currently, I don't see any reason to. I have root access, which lets me do things like run webtop without a dock, wifi tether, uninstall system apps, and anything else you need root for. As far as your interface, anything you don't like about motoblur can be remedied with a new launcher, like GoLauncher.
So far, I couldn't be happier with the Photon. This phone is amazing. I have 4G in my area, and if you unlock the bootloader you lose that, so for now, I don't want to. The only time I see it becoming a problem is if ICS roms start coming out and Sprint and Moto don't give us an official update.
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Root on this was actually incredibly easy with Photon Torpedo method.
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Um, hold up! Have you tried the AIO OCR? Once you go OCR, you'll never go back...
and yes, the Photon can't compare to the EVO, (except the kickstand of course!)
I had Evo 4G and got Photon 08/02/2011. 3 weeks later I rooted it, and 4 days later I put it back to stock. Even if they came out with unlocked bootloader, I'm staying put, lovely directly right out the box. I have SPB 3D Shell (which some claim it a resource hog. Maybe? I reboot maybe once a week?) but it gives me a unique look and feel and I like the organization with it. Battery is decent compared to others, I last a work day, but I really to play with mine.
As stated, up to you. Personally, almost any smartphone on the market today has a heck of alot of Pro's compared to Con's!
Thanks so much! Im pretty sure this is the one im going to buy, because my awesome hero has just gotten to old for my liking. Happy Thanksgiving!
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Hey everyone,
I'm currently planning on upgrading from my Samsung Captivate. I haven't dealt with custom ROMs (I would have with the Captivate if I weren't switching), but am definitely planning on using them with the next phone I get.
When reading about the Inspire v. Atrix I've seen a lot of support for the Inspire due to the fact that it can load customs ROMs and therefor run faster, while Motoblur slows the Atrix down.
I'm a bit hesitant to buy the Inspire because I'm worried in the next couple of years the dual cores in the Atrix will be useful (and I like the better battery life).
And so my essential questions are this:
What are the major issues with Motoblur?
Does Gingerblur fix the lag issues with the Atrix, or does the Inspire still run more smoothly?
Does anyone expect full custom ROMs to be run on the Atrix at any point?
Thanks a lot for you help!
MotoBlur slows down all as hTC Sense does the same.
I LOVE hTC and I'm writing from my blazing fast G2 @2GHz but...I've bought an Atrix, at least it's dualcore...Tegra2.
And remember that it's an interesting device so...I hope that someone will trick the Tegra2's security chain.
Another thing: nothing is uncrackable.
Ouh, synthetically, I'd go on the Atrix choice.
I have had all three phones and my choice is the Atrix. Battery life on the inspire was horrible and didn't have a front facing camera. Currently I am running Gingerblur 6.5 and it is smoking fast. The Inspire was not even close to this fast! Also, this is the best battery life I have ever had on a smart phone.
So I would recommend the Atrix 4G!
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First off this is the wrong place for this thread.
I have an atrix and I love it. Yeah blur sucks, but I never used sense either. That's the beauty of android your not stuck like ios. If you want a big screen then go with the inspire, but keep in mind you have far less memory and only a single core and no tegra. The only thing really holding this phone back right now is the fact that development for apps and games don't fully utilize all of the power it has to offer. But that'd about to change bowe that the bionic is about to come out on verizon, it's pretty much the same phone. The catch is there are more devs on verizon phones. So inevitably there will be a butt load more support coming for dual core phones, especially moto.
That's my 2 cents.
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I've used Both. I loved the inspire. From HTC sense to the screen size everything was right. Then the reality started kicking in. I would use the phone for 20 minutes with the screen on checking twitter emails ect and the battery would loose 25%. Even when I didn't touch it it would drain about 10% an hour. Its an awesome phone but it would always have to be on yhr charger for me and this got really annoying. Now with the atrix I do miss the bigger size of the inspire screen but I get thru all day with this thing. And it has HDMI out and if you install the webtop hack like me you get hulu or whatever on your HDTV and you know what? Webtop is great for videos. It completely replaced my need for Google TV. That being said I do miss sense UI and the large screen but at the end of the day when you look at what's most important and a better long term investment atrix wins hands down.
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Yea, I agree, this probably belongs in the general area.
But a few quick words from a former Captivate user. Yea, they are super simple to hack, and that was cool. Especially since the phone had so many bug when released. Hacker/devs really cleaned it up and made it a good phone. But there are many things the Atrix can do that the old captivate cant, and the Inspire as well. For me, HDMI out is a huge deal, and webtop (with hack) is the icing on the cake. I love playing Emus on this while its hooked up to my TV. Its like having a NES,SNES,N64,GBA,Sega,PS1 in my pocket at all times.
The potential of this phone is HUGE. Hopefully as things progress more things will come, and be developed to put all this power to good use. I am sure that the badass Devs that are dedicated to this phone will come up with some very exciting things (as they have already!) If I had the know how, I'd certainly be in that ring coming up with cool things to do with this sucker.
Just out of the box, simply using a different launcher like LauncherPro will solve most of the motoblur issues. I used it that way for the first few weeks with no problem, and no lag. I just recently got the courage to flash gingerblur (I flashed the HELL out of my old Captivate) and so far it is awesome, and even faster. I am very happy I made the switch to Atrix. But if I had the $$ I'd prpbably have kept the Captivate too just to play with custom roms and tinker with.
Anyway, I would probably choose the Atrix over the Inspire just because of features and power potential.
Well if your worried about which phone will be more usefull in a couple years don't get either one. With the progression we've seen lately both phones will be considered dinosaurs by late summer.
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That's true. The price of the Atrix is already dropping, and with word/specs of the HTC Sensation 4G (Pyramid), as well as the EVO 3D, the Atrix will be old hat very soon it seems.
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That's true. The price of the Atrix is already dropping, and with word/specs of the HTC Sensation 4G (Pyramid), as well as the EVO 3D, the Atrix will be old hat very soon it seems.
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Looking at the ATT site, the price has not dropped. $199 for new contract is still normal.
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Well if your worried about which phone will be more usefull in a couple years don't get either one. With the progression we've seen lately both phones will be considered dinosaurs by late summer.
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That's true. The price of the Atrix is already dropping, and with word/specs of the HTC Sensation 4G (Pyramid), as well as the EVO 3D, the Atrix will be old hat very soon it seems.
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Dont know what inside info u got but i dont see any phone smoking atrix this year... Apart from slightly better camera, screen or 3D (which are personal tastes), i dont see any specs that atrix can't match .. and when u throw in the accessories (which no one else is even working on), atrix becomes a unique phone solid enough to last till the Quadcores come NEXT summer.
Here is post comparing atrix & sensation and most users still prefer atrix. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1032403
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You can get it for $129 or $99 from Amazon.com as well as Costco (if you are a member).
Hello forum,
I've read about 9 hrs worth of info on here in 2 days. I am stuck between a rock and a hard place. I will try and keep this short, I might fail.
I came from an org d1 with cm7, great phone. Its old hardware and I was due for an upgrade.
I just got the HTC Thunderbolt 2 days ago. I'm not very impressed with it AT ALL. I realllllly hate the HTC SENSE gui. I've never liked HTC to begin with. But the TB had 4g (which I just found out I wont get untill 2013) and a FF Camera. I don't really care about 4G anymore, any good crap I do over WiFi anyways. As far as the FF Camera, it was fun, im over it.
I have 14 days (12) to change my mind and was told I can switch phones. I really wanted the X2 in the first place, but I went with the TB. What I really want is just a beast phone that can last 2 years with upcoming tech. Everyone I hear talking about the dual core stuff says its over rated because no OS or APPs use it yet. I've been watching some Videos on the X2 and Im liking it more.
What I wonder is if its going to have any development? The HTC TB already has tons of custom ROMs and CM7 is about there. Do you guys think the X2 will get any attention? Will there be custom ROMs? I really dont like MOTOBLUR but I would be able to put up with it for 6 months over the sense.
How is the battery? Without 4G even turned on I cant even get a full day off this TB.
Is it pretty smooth and fast? I'm a little worried about the RAM .... 512 vs 768? I mean coming from the D1 512 should be fine..... but does it feel smooth?
Are there ways right now (I know you can root) to debloat it and take off MOTOBLUR ? I really just want a clean AOSP, but I'm very willing to wait for development. I just wonder if the X2 will get any attention.
Any thoughts or suggestions are greatly appreciated. Sorry so long.
If you want custom roms then stick with the Thunderbolt. Until the Motorola bootloader gets unlocked you won't be able to fully flash a custom rom.
Also the X2 does not have MOTOBLUR on it. And yes it is possible to root using gingerbreak and remove any bloatware.
I just got my X2 yesterday and the UI seems to be a lot smoother with the dual core processor compared to my old X. If you don't get 4G coverage then I would definitely go with the X2. Also in my experience Motorola phones tend to have better battery life over HTC.
The X2 does have MOTOBLUR but it is the updated version they use normally with gingerbread which is not as bad as the version they had before.
As for development like the previous poster said, until Motorola unlocks the bootloader and an sbf is found/created. ROMs are out of the question at the moment..
Personally I came from the TB and although the TB had all the custom ROMs th X2 has made me happy with the smooth UI, after some tweaking, and the battery life is alot better.
It's going to be a trade-off. If you like to root/ mod you're going to have to wait on the X2 for a while. I read they just cracked the Droid X for CM 7, so there's hope but no idea on when we might have a full range of option for the X2.
On the other hand, the DX2 works great out of the box and my only major complaint is no Gingerbread yet. I've used both and, given the TB's battery life sucks and I'm not around a 4G area at work or home and won't be for a while, the X2 is the better option in my opinion. The TB is not a bad phone over all, but without the 4G it's not a compelling device to need right now IMO.
I'd recommend you go with the X2 and wait until 4G LTE is both widespread and all the bugs are worked out in the system.
I've tried all of Verizon's 4G phones within my 14 day return period. (I'm paying full price, so I didn't just want to settle with playing with a floor model for a few minutes to make a decision.) Anyway, it was something about each one that made me not want to keep them. (Although I saw the Charge received an update that made the phone 2-3 times better from what I'm reading from users across different forms.) But I settled with the DX2. Far better signal than any of the others I had. Much better battery life. Better build quality by far. As smooth as the Thunderbolt, even with 512 of RAM. And it has the Dual Core processors, which will eventually be beneficial once more phones get them and more developers start working around them, software and app wise. I get 4G in my area in 2 months and I still choose to go with a 3G phone, because a page loading a few seconds faster on 4G than mine does on 3G, has absolutely no importance in my life. I think ffc's are kind of overrated right now, but will be the norm in the future when almost everyone has a phone with a camera on it. We can only hope Motorola will unlock the bootloader. I doubt Verizon would approve of that, but still, the original Droid X received some pretty good attention from dev's. As you can see, it was thought of enough that someone worked hard to get CM7 on there. So the dev attention will be there.
Thanks for all your help guys..... still a tough choice...
But since the X2 has a "locked bootloader" that means there will never be custom ROMs untill MOTO themselfs release an update to unlock it or what? Did the ORG droid X have a locked bootloader? Wasnt there custom roms on it?
I had a thunderbolt but the battery life was just to bad for me to keep it when i was near stl and had 4g it went from 100% to 25 in no time flat so i couldnt handle that. the droid x2 with all the bloat ware ran decently fast but once u take off bloat ware its great phone with much better battery but if you want 4g id say go with lg revolution it seems to be better i only played with in store but i liked it also
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Thanks for all your help guys..... still a tough choice...
But since the X2 has a "locked bootloader" that means there will never be custom ROMs untill MOTO themselfs release an update to unlock it or what? Did the ORG droid X have a locked bootloader? Wasnt there custom roms on it?
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No, Yes and Yes. The bootloader on the original X is still locked. That just means that you don't have complete control over the kernel. Custom roms can certainly still be added once root is established. Also, if anybody's been watching the blogs, CM7 has been release for the original X. It's a bit of backwards magic of loading overtop and after the original kernel, but it's reported to be working great.
Indeed, I'm really keeping my fingers crossed that CM7 on the DX means we're in line for it on the X2!
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Haha, me and you are both in the same place
I'm leaning towards returning the X2 and getting the Tbolt, but the extra $135 I'll have to pay is making me unsure..since I have no income.
The good thing is, is that I read earlier today that the new Nexus phone is supposed to have a LTE radio. (Verizon maybe?!) Either that or the Galaxy S 2..both seem like good choices.
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Haha, me and you are both in the same place
I'm leaning towards returning the X2 and getting the Tbolt, but the extra $135 I'll have to pay is making me unsure..since I have no income.
The good thing is, is that I read earlier today that the new Nexus phone is supposed to have a LTE radio. (Verizon maybe?!) Either that or the Galaxy S 2..both seem like good choices.
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Have you played around with a charge at all?
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Have you played around with a charge at all?
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I would, but I can't afford $300 for a phone .. I mean after trading in my X2, I'd have to pay like $150 dollars, unless its "lowest promotional price" is less than $299.
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I would, but I can't afford $300 for a phone .. I mean after trading in my X2, I'd have to pay like $150 dollars, unless its "lowest promotional price" is less than $299.
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Besides, the Charge is still a single core phone.
OMG ! Some of you people are so picky! If I could have my X2's babies I would! I love this phone and I'm in the same situation as the OP. I won't get 4G til around until 2013 and I'll be eligible for an upgrade in January 2013. By then, I'm hoping to get whatever new multi-core, 4G, 3D display, FFC phone they have because I'm sure all of that will be more of a standard *AND* hopefully there will be better battery life for those kinds of features. Until then, gogo Droid X2!
FFC isn't all that great without 4G anyway and even if it was great on 3G, I still don't see myself using it until video calling becomes much more popular. I don't even know anyone else with an FFC for video calling, so how useful is that?? You gotta ask yourself: Who do I know with FFCs? and: Are we really gonna video chat a lot? Unless you're a hardcore SKYPEr or you are on business trips away from your wife and kids a lot, why not just stick to the casual video chatting you may or may not do on your PC?
Minus the custom ROM this is still a great phone and handsdown a top choice if you're gonna be outside the 4G bubbles for a while! Just sayin'.
You won't see any custom development until both an SBF file and the first update to the phone release. For the record, I'm quite surprised neither have leaked yet. Usually the SBF leaks in the first week or two and there is an update within the first couple weeks to fix stability issues. The X2 has so many stability issues that I think they're just going to push GB to the device rather than try to fix all the Froyo problems. That being said, it could still be a while before we see GB. I also wouldn't own this phone without being willing to root it. Too unstable without being able to fix the memory allocation problems.
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Besides, the Charge is still a single core phone.
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That's a good point. Now that I think about it, a single core phone isnt worth $300 dollars , even if it has 4G... I just rooted my X2, and now I going to try to uninstall the bloat, but it already feels faster.
lol, i have a brand spankin new dx2 i am willing to trade for a tbolt!!
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OMG ! Some of you people are so picky! If I could have my X2's babies I would!
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I'll second the comment that nearly all the VZW phones involve compromises of some sort. The compromises on the X2 are the lack of 4G, the not-quite-top-tier screen, and the fact that we might not see custom ROMs for a very long time.
That said, my phone is my lifeline, and the X2 meets my need for good build quality, good reception, a loud speaker (I'm a little hard at hearing), and that can get me into and out of my work-related apps quickly.
I feel like I got a good PHONE that's solid, loud, reliable, and pretty quick. Good enough for me for now. If I get Cryogen on it, then all the better, but it won't kill it for me.
Chris
I had the TB and it was a POS. Bad gps, light leaks, horrible battery, terrible speaker, kickstand started peeling after a month. I'm not saying my DX2 is perfect, but it kicks the TB's ass. Love my dual core monster.
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About to purchase this phone. How do you guys like it? Is it a good quality device? About to get for one of my family members? Also is the bootloader unlocked? Lol thanks
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Bootloader is not unlocked. Those phones are not coming out till about Septemberish.
I love my Thunderbolt. No complaints.
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I've had about 12 phones in the last 2-3 years, and the Thunderbolt has been the best phone I've ever owned, development is nuts, not a single problem with it, great performance stock even better rooted/rom'd
I am a recent convert to the Thunderbolt, with a whopping three weeks of ownership.
I originally wanted to support the Sensation on TMobile. But, for various reasons, not the least being the AT&T merger which I suspect will happen (this reducing the quality of TMobile's service, IMHO) and price, I came over to the Thunderbolt and verizon.
Previously I had the Samsung Captivate on AT&T and Evo on Sprint.
It was the commitment and speed of the independent developer community that won me over. The hardware is pretty decent. LTE speeds are extremely impressive when in optimal coverage. Battery is getting better after tweaking the ROM, startup applications and services and usage patterns.
I am definitely happy with it at this time, and upcoming Gingerbread will be very interesting.
Of course, it seems like the Thunderbolt is already being treated as "dated" and something newer and "better" is always around the corner. I would guess that we'll see the $49 price point for new contract in the not too distant future.
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Bootloader is not unlocked. Those phones are not coming out till about Septemberish.
I love my Thunderbolt. No complaints.
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It is unlocked...assuming one has the common sense and patience needed to unlock it through the tutorial stickied in the developer's forum (or one can ask detailed questions that don't involve people having to play 20 questions to help the said person). However, it is not unlocked out of the box or through official channels.
My experience only.
I came over because of an accidental drowning of my Incredible. Honestly, I didn't stay with the Inc2 because I knew we had 4g here and I wanted the speed. I also like HTC phones. I also thought the Bolt would be better.Truth is though, after flashing all the ROMS, I still miss my incredible.
The bolt is a good phone. However, I use my phone for business and reliability is key for me. This phone has been nowhere as reliable as my inc. Random reboots before root and the battery issues since rooting. If it weren't for the Development Community for the Bolt, I would have traded back in for something else. I realize there are plenty of things I could do different to get more battery, but I like 4g, sense 3 elements and GB. I'm stuck with it until Feb. 1, so I will make do until then.
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Ok so it is unlocked or you can unlock it. Is htc sending out an ota update to unlock the bootloader? I think they are doing it for the sensation sometime mid august. But if you can follow a tutorial and do it yourself. Thats not so bad i guess. Sounds like its a great phone according to all you guys. Was looking at the droid 3 just because it has dual core. But the over all screen and build quality of thunderbolt is so much better im sure. Plus its android
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Ok so it is unlocked or you can unlock it. Is htc sending out an ota update to unlock the bootloader? I think they are doing it for the sensation sometime mid august. But if you can follow a tutorial and do it yourself. Thats not so bad i guess. Sounds like its a great phone according to all you guys. Was looking at the droid 3 just because it has dual core. But the over all screen and build quality of thunderbolt is so much better im sure. Plus its android
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The bootloader does NOT ship unlocked. If you want to root your bolt, the goto the Devs section and follow jcase's tutorial. It's the first sticky.
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The bootloader does NOT ship unlocked. If you want to root your bolt, the goto the Devs section and follow jcase's tutorial. It's the first sticky.
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That wasn't what the ??? was about. I believe it was about saying "Plus its android"
since both are android phones, heh.
I've been very happy with the Thunderbolt. The first few days on Android with the phone stock I was extremely disappointed with the battery life. So I went to Verizon and ordered the extended battery. I got home from the Verizon store and started playing with my settings. The next day I thought something was wrong with my battery meter because it was lasting so long but nope, battery life really had improved that much.
One of the biggest things I see among people new to the Thunderbolt is the same problem that I had. I was running 4G enabled and there is no 4G in my area yet. It was eating battery searching for a signal that didn't exist. I typed a few numbers into the dialer and it toggled 4G off, that alone doubled battery life.
The developer support is amazing, there is so much going on right now and the full capabilities of this phone have not even been let off the leash. I was new to Android and I unlocked my bootloader and rooted my phone before the sim card arrived that Verizon had to mail. It was completely painless.
Someone more familiar with Verizon will have to let you know about what competition is coming in the next six months and if you should wait for it. With what's available right now, I'd definitely choose the Thunderbolt again.
The Tbolt has its quirks, just like any other phone. The battery life isn't the best, but I think the whole issue has been overhyped. You can expect 8-10 hours with the stock rom & battery with 4G always on and typical usage. You can double that time with a custom rom & kernel. You get even more time with the extended battery. I have really enjoyed my Tbolt and I wouldn't trade it for anything except maybe the SGS2 (only if it gets LTE)
Yeah the guy at the verizon store said my family member should get an iphone4 cause the battery life sucks on tbolt. But whatever so what you buy an extended battery. No biggy. Guy at verizon an apple fan. Lol. Trying to make my family members one of the sheep. F_ck apple!!!!!!
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After being a long time BlackBerry owner, for the better part of a decade. I switched to the Motorola Pro, to have Android and a physical keyboard, and then a month later while adding a line for my wife, I saw the thunderbolt. Having already used my upgrade, I purchased it at full retail price.
Even with paying a little shy of $600 for this phone, I don't regret it one bit. The only complaint I had was the battery life. After rooting, flashing decent ROMS/kernels, and choosing the right settings, battery life has improved signifigantly. And 4G LTE is the best hands down in my opinion. Plus its nice to be able to talk on the phone and surf the web at the same time, which iPhone can't do on Verizon's 3G.
I'd just get the tbolt if I were you. If you don't like it, you have 30 days to exchange it for a different phone.
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Thanks for all the help
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This thread strikes me as being similar to walking into the Corvette museum and asking the guys bumming around in there if the like their cars. I've got 3 gripes. First, I have yet to run a ROM on this thing that didn't have some annoying quirk I just had to live with, the LTE coverage and technology still seems to have some kinks that need ironing out, and for whatever reason my digitizer has come loose on the bottom left side and it clicks when I tap the screen sometimes. I'm thinking super glue if it keeps annoying me. The Samsung Charge is the only other one I'd consider, buy no where near the custom development for it.
Im coming from the HTC evo from sprint. Im on my way over to Verizon. Im interested in both the Rezound and the nexus...
Is there a reason to choose the REzound over the nexus? It doesnt seem like the Rezound has full root/s-off etc etc right? Is it a matter of time, or do they have this thing locked down?
Rezound have radio lock thats all
Rezound is faster and has alotttt stronger signal. Basically, HTC owns samsung
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I was all about the nexus but after being burned so often by buying and trying to justify my purchase waited and was about to buy a rezound till I got it as a replacement and its awesome. I love this phone so far. Great camera, It's really quick, screen is amazing and its the perfect size
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I came from the EVO as well. It was this or nexus, I chose this for the better camera and beats, which I can't go without now. Plus the free headphones. Only selling point of the nexus is ics but a senseless Rom gives a close experience which should get better in time. Plus sense 3.6 is cool and miui is in progress as well as sense 4.0
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Came from Evo 4G on Sprint as well. Went through 2 Nexus's before giving up and getting the Rezound. Signal and call quality on the Nexus was horrendous. I would hear about every third word the caller was saying which made for some pretty interesting conversations.
The ONLY advantage to the Nexus is the ease of "tweaking" it but I un-locked, flashed a recovery, and flashed a rooted ICS Rom on my Rezound in about 10 minutes.
Get the Rezound ... NO BRAINER
IMHO
Edit: BTW ... The return rate of the Nexus is upwards of 20% according to my Verizon Rep. She told me she wished they would pull it off the market.
I came on over from the Evo 3d and I love the Rezound and coverage so much I've yet to root it. This phone has almost cured my flashism. Though I'm on vacation this week, I might get in on the rooting and madness on this side of town soon.
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Thanks guys.. Im hesistant with the Nexus because IVe heard about samsung not rolling out updates etc etc as fast as they should.
Rezound vs GNex
I poured over this decision back in December. I opted for the rezound because it has an sd card slot and the GNex doesn't. The camera and processor are also superior. I have mine OC's to 1.8 GHz. It is saddled with s-on though. HTC allows users to unlock the bootloader but we cannot flash radios and kernels directly via recovery. It must be done in the bootloader or via fastboot. Not the end of the world but not as easy as an s-off device. This nut seems to be a tough one to crack too. A few devs have been at it since December but no joy
Once we get cm9 the nexus will be a thing of the past.
mighty_markus12 said:
Once we get cm9 the nexus will be a thing of the past.
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What do you mean by that?
editeD: lolwut I got it now haha fail.
Look, I'm not expert by any means, but I feel I need to chime in. I have owned both phones. The Nexus was probably the sweetest phone I thought I ever had.. Everything seemed to work flawlessly. After a few days I constantly had problems with the Battery, Signal strength and SOUND. Let me explain. ICS was awesome IMO. It worked great and was a really nice change. But that was the only thing that was nice on it. The roms that are coming out now for the Rezound by far make this the best phone I've ever owned. Speed, picture, ICS and I personally like Sense. SO for me to give anyone advice it would easily be GO REZOUND!!
BTW.. Ask this question in the Nexus forum, and I guarantee you'll get a different response. So basically, you need to go in the store, and give yourself 20 minutes to mess around with both phones. Just keep in mind that Samsung has a reputation as having terrible radios. Be sure to listen to the sound on both. And take a look at the resolution and clarity.. A few youtube videos should do it for ya! ALSO, the fact that you get a nice set of ear phones.
I just got the rezound last week and love it. I'm coming from a sensation 4g this is a lot better phone than that is. Plus now we have an ics leak that your phone doesn't have to be rooted is sweet. And when the official ota drops you can still update
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Don't think. Just buy a rezound.
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I faced the same decision, and I went for the Rezound. The camera, reception, and overall build quality of this phone is better than that of the Nexus. I really don't like Sense, and that almost made me go for the Nexus, but software is upgradable and hardware isn't. I'm currently running a senseless ROM (XTreme's), which isn't AOSP, but it's close. It seems like there is being progress with ROMs completely lacking sense (MIUI is being worked on and apparently has RIL in-tact), and once CM9 gets its RIL issues fixed, my phone will feel complete. Even without that, I am very happy with this phone. The screen is amazing, even when compared to a Samsung device (Nexus). The battery life isn't great, but it is an LTE device... I never get signal drops, and I'm always on 4G.
okay well with that being said, what do you guys loose not having s-off?
mroneeyedboh said:
okay well with that being said, what do you guys loose not having s-off?
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Not much. It makes it more difficult to flash kernels, but it is still relatively easy using adb or just your phone. You can't flash radios (well at least without being relocked), which I think is the major downside of s-off. Also, unlocking through the HTCDev method won't let you go back to complete factory stock (without the bootloader saying relocked), so if Verizon happened to check, they can see that you MAY have voided PARTS of your warranty (not a big deal).
hmm Seems like its too much bull**** to deal with...
mroneeyedboh said:
hmm Seems like its too much bull**** to deal with...
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It's really not that bad. Choose the phone you want to go with, but don't let that sway you too much. We may not have as many developers and ROMs as the Nexus, but we have some really great devs. And flashing ROMs and kernels really doesn't take noticeably longer without s-off, and becomes second nature
If you want stock ICS go Nexus.
If you want better screen, eventual Sense ICS (AOSP probably won't be possible until we can get s-off I think), and removable SD card go Rezound.
I've been a stock Android fan since the original Droid, but I've really grown to like Sense and Sense 4.0 looks even better. I do want an eventual AOSP.
Hey all ssup
Well wanted to ask, my photon is in shipping and I am likely to get it early next week, ain't got no clue which version its been shipped with.
But suppose its. 2.3.5 then what ROM options and/or optimization option I have after rooting and of course the process of rooting.
Its shameful on part of moto to ditch us and on top freakin locking the boitloader, I have tried my bit by getting more than 30 odd people to sign the petitions.
Let's hope this great phone giant abandoned by moto and the devs .
Thanks
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I'm using Peetr's hybrid rom with planter's ics theme and it looks badass and runs perfectly. I also have the beats audio installed along with the bravia engine. Other than no 4G (which I don't have to begin with here), I have zero complaints. I'm sure there are a few other locked roms that work great as well, but this is simply my opinion.
No doubt looks badass
And 4g is a no go from where I am so it can stay f*****.
gonna try this for sure.
Although I have rooted the photon before but which is the easiest for
2.3.4 and 2.3.5
regards
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If it comes with 2.3.4 you are lucky man cause then you can unlock your own bootloader and run whatever you want. If you get 2.3.5 use the torpedo method to root. Do a quick search and you'll find it easily.
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