But everybody have overreacted. Ofc you have some work to do in priority but terminating the project was not everybody's goal... So I am sure of that everybody want you to continue this project. And even I didn't i am sorry for "cool sarcastic guys".
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12595261&postcount=2
Please read this post from 2. April 2011.
We can learn together... but this takes time.
Many time. Months, maybe years...
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1.
Android port needs extreme deep knowledge...
2.
Also you need time...
Result is.
Few of the Developers from this project now high skilled in Reversing Bootloader, FOTA, Hardware etc.
They are now much smarter then before.
Maybe 1 day in future project will continue...
Again.
This project is HARDEST task.
Project reached bottleneck and stopped now... temporary... like other Android ports before... many other ports never reached 100 % ... after few months...
Maybe finished in 2012, 2013 or maybe never.
Who knows.
Expect not to much.
If you need Android now, then buy Android handset now...
Porting is Education... And Education can take years.
Best Regards
after that time no one will need Android on Wave i think I know this is so hard. But after that far i think giving up is a bad thing. Why? Bc sarcastic morons? Who cares of them. They are just "trying to be badass or entertaining themselves like that ways". I m a student in high school. And in my country high schools are so much harder than other countries. So i wish (really wish) that i could help you but i can't.
Samsung wave de android kullanmak sizce uygun mudur?
KiTTy_xL said:
Samsung wave de android kullanmak sizce uygun mudur?
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Ne demek istediğini tam anlamadım ama anladığım kadarıyla söyleyim. Badadroid projesinin alpha versiyonu bile galaxy ace teki androidden daha stabil ve hızlıydı. Yani gayet de uygundur...
Btw even the alpha version of badadroid (or whatever its name is ) was so much faster than galaxy ace. So i think Android in Wave would be seem much better than Ace...
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after that time no one will need Android on Wave i think I know this is so hard. But after that far i think giving up is a bad thing. Why? Bc sarcastic morons? Who cares of them. They are just "trying to be badass or entertaining themselves like that ways". I m a student in high school. And in my country high schools are so much harder than other countries. So i wish (really wish) that i could help you but i can't.
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While reading this part, i've guessed that you may from Turkey, and on your next message it has been proved. =)
Anyway bro as far as i know and according to my searchings that project is almost impossible. The project really needs deep knowledge and much more time. So, galaxy s2 awaits ! =D
Letherin said:
While reading this part, i've guessed that you may from Turkey, and on your next message it has been proved. =)
Anyway bro as far as i know and according to my searchings that project is almost impossible. The project really needs deep knowledge and much more time. So, galaxy s2 awaits ! =D
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Haha you got me Well there is nothing to do with this "hard" thing at the moment Yeah I know this project requirements but there are dev's in xda who has so much better than you explained And unfortunately in Turkey electronic s and high ended devices are more expensive than other countries But still such a good country isn't it
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Haha you got me Well there is nothing to do with this "hard" thing at the moment Yeah I know this project requirements but there are dev's in xda who has so much better than you explained And unfortunately in Turkey electronic s and high ended devices are more expensive than other countries But still such a good country isn't it
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I've remembered my oldies but goldies university memories because of you thanks anyway ^^ ( but these memories does not consist mid-term and final examz =D )
Lets hope the other developer guys may focus on this, but after a year and the current status of the Bada os, to be honest well its not that shiny anymore for me and i suppose many of bada users too =/
Btw i suggest you to follow Vatan Computer. Once or twice per month, they're making about %20 or %25 discounts on products ( generally over website ).
Ah and for the last part yeah i'm proud of living in Turkey
Letherin said:
I've remembered my oldies but goldies university memories because of you thanks anyway ^^ ( but these memories does not consist mid-term and final examz =D )
Lets hope the other developer guys may focus on this, but after a year and the current status of the Bada os, to be honest well its not that shiny anymore for me and i suppose many of bada users too =/
Btw i suggest you to follow Vatan Computer. Once or twice per month, they're making about %20 or %25 discounts on products ( generally over website ).
Ah and for the last part yeah i'm proud of living in Turkey
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Actually I think everybody will use badadroid in their phones (Dual boot man just dual boot ) Btw if you are Turkish and I am Turkish why are we still speaking in english Well I think speaking in second language is much funnier than native one
furkey said:
Actually I think everybody will use badadroid in their phones (Dual boot man just dual boot ) Btw if you are Turkish and I am Turkish why are we still speaking in english Well I think speaking in second language is much funnier than native one
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Excatly, dual boot is good alternative way to use android on bada, but i cannot dare to build it on my phone
Two reasons for me to speak English; First one is, it's been looong time for me to speak in English with someone. So this is a good chance for me to make practice ^^
The second reasons is, we may get banned from here because of speaking with other language. Rules are rule !! =D
Hop hop hop, I'll point out that there's a great deal of people here in France who would love to see Android on their samsung waves...
I think the work that has been done is fantastic - Really fantastic work and much much further than for some other handsets. I'm convinced that the key to the problem is finding an android handset with the same modem chip. Surely samsung didn't go to the effort of creating a modem chip specifically for the WAVE & WAVE 2
Lets go looking shall we ?
Letherin said:
Excatly, dual boot is good alternative way to use android on bada, but i cannot dare to build it on my phone
Two reasons for me to speak English; First one is, it's been looong time for me to speak in English with someone. So this is a good chance for me to make practice ^^
The second reasons is, we may get banned from here because of speaking with other language. Rules are rule !! =D
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Oh i didn't realize that :S Actually you can dare it I tried and worked well. If you have a good class of sd card (even class4) you can use Android with dual-boot and believe me it's so much smoother than Samsung Galaxy Ace I couldn't dare try it on bada 2 betas too. But if somebody try it i will too And about the practice thing so am i But it's just ridiculous to speak english with a person who is from my country
duxxyuk said:
Hop hop hop, I'll point out that there's a great deal of people here in France who would love to see Android on their samsung waves...
I think the work that has been done is fantastic - Really fantastic work and much much further than for some other handsets. I'm convinced that the key to the problem is finding an android handset with the same modem chip. Surely samsung didn't go to the effort of creating a modem chip specifically for the WAVE & WAVE 2
Lets go looking shall we ?
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Yes it's pretty much harder. We just need to driver creator developer but if even that kind of developer exist he is in Samsung or else company. So it became so harder
Ridiculous ? That was mean
Better it is an android to be bought
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I have to say that the rest of the guy's on the Touch Dual board really suck.
All these wanabee rom cookers and beta tester abusers need to be shot.
DON'T POST UNTIL IT WORKS, OR SAY IT IS JUST AN BETA WHEN IT ISN'T!
RESPECT THE PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD!! ALSO TESTERS!
Wasted a lot of time on these defective rom's.
monx® you suck for not supporting use here!
No wonder everybody deserts WinMo in favor of the iphone! I hope you developers choke in your abuse, you are the ones that kiled windows mobile.
Bardok said:
I have to say that the rest of the guy's on the Touch Dual board really suck.
All these wanabee rom cookers and beta tester abusers need to be shot.
DON'T POST UNTIL IT WORKS, OR SAY IT IS JUST AN BETA WHEN IT ISN'T!
RESPECT THE PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD!! ALSO TESTERS!
Wasted a lot of time on these defective rom's.
monx® you suck for not supporting use here!
No wonder everybody deserts WinMo in favor of the iphone! I hope you developers choke in your abuse, you are the ones that kiled windows mobile.
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Hi Bardok, I'm not very happy you wanted me to be shot, I made a couple of roms an as far as I can remember I didn't get any feedback from you.
So if you have guts try my rom or leave the forum and go playing with your Iphone.
Hope you make the right choice.
Regards and have fun.
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Hi Bardok, I'm not very happy you wanted me to be shot, I made a couple of roms an as far as I can remember I didn't get any feedback from you.
So if you have guts try my rom or leave the forum and go playing with your Iphone.
Hope you make the right choice.
Regards and have fun.
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lol how cheeky are some people!! 5 posts since joining in 2009 and the nerve to start demanding people be shot.
Bardok said:
I have to say that the rest of the guy's on the Touch Dual board really suck.
All these wanabee rom cookers and beta tester abusers need to be shot.
DON'T POST UNTIL IT WORKS, OR SAY IT IS JUST AN BETA WHEN IT ISN'T!
RESPECT THE PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD!! ALSO TESTERS!
Wasted a lot of time on these defective rom's.
monx® you suck for not supporting use here!
No wonder everybody deserts WinMo in favor of the iphone! I hope you developers choke in your abuse, you are the ones that kiled windows mobile.
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I think i found your dummy over by the door.
Bardok said:
I have to say that the rest of the guy's on the Touch Dual board really suck.
All these wanabee rom cookers and beta tester abusers need to be shot.
DON'T POST UNTIL IT WORKS, OR SAY IT IS JUST AN BETA WHEN IT ISN'T!
RESPECT THE PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD!! ALSO TESTERS!
Wasted a lot of time on these defective rom's.
monx® you suck for not supporting use here!
No wonder everybody deserts WinMo in favor of the iphone! I hope you developers choke in your abuse, you are the ones that kiled windows mobile.
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Total disagree.... Ive not seen any roms make by you..instead of running off make one and see if you can do better..
Ive tryed and its hard but with the help of this forum im getting there...
i have the up most respect to all the cookers out there weather its for the touch dual or the g1 (G1 died but the touch dual is better)
To take time out of there lifes to make my phone a little bit better Thank you all.
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Bardok said:
I have to say that the rest of the guy's on the Touch Dual board really suck.
All these wanabee rom cookers and beta tester abusers need to be shot.
DON'T POST UNTIL IT WORKS, OR SAY IT IS JUST AN BETA WHEN IT ISN'T!
RESPECT THE PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD!! ALSO TESTERS!
Wasted a lot of time on these defective rom's.
monx® you suck for not supporting use here!
No wonder everybody deserts WinMo in favor of the iphone! I hope you developers choke in your abuse, you are the ones that kiled windows mobile.
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For update your iphone, you need to paid.
Here, they are old phone running first in winmo5 and now in winmo6.5.3 (why not in winmo7) And all for "FREE" (donation is better)
Thanks For ALL XDA Dev
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Yeah, me 2! But isn't that what it's all about here? If we wanted just a phone to, well, make phone calls and stuff like that we would probably all be better off using some stock phone.
Most people here develop/flash/test/play for fun, because they are bored and because they can, after all the forums name has a 'developer' in it, not a 'user'. So if you expected some kind of 24/7 tech support here, well that is the wrong forum here, sorry. This also isn't supposed as a free 'make my phone flashy, shiny and new' service. Sure it's fun to check out some new stuff on your old touch dual, but to be honest, if you expect a release from one of our (very able) cooks, where everything works at first shot, well, the guys at htc are not that good either. If you dislike winmo, go buy yourself another toy, but don't waste everyones time here flaming around.
Bye bye
I don't think he isn't that wrong at all. A ROM needs to work, period.
It's the core of you device where all your other stuff runs on. Most of us use our device trough the day, not just in emulators.
Its very important that it works before you roll it out to the public. If you want beta testers, then say so and don't just drop it on the users and leave.
People will not come back! And a lot of new users don't know what the forum is about. but they are WM users.
@ mblaster: I am here too, I am not bored at all.
Sure the forums says 'Developers' and not 'Tinker-bells', but most of the developers here are 'Real Pro's', they develop for the real world, not just to tinker of boredom. They have an plan, and make great thing that works. You will find there stuff on new released devices all over, including the iPhone!
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I say this again, a ROM is the core of your device where other software runs in/on.
Its not an piece of software like an games you just install.
ROM development is a lot of work, its not just switching some graphics and putting in some already-applications an not care about the rest. It is an art and an profession, and real cook is an master of devices
I think what Bardof means is that the quality-of-service needs to go up again, not the volume of ROM's, even on the new devices.
An ROM that doesn't work right, gives a bad taste to the Windows Mobile platform. We all know the effects..
I love this forum and WM, I have been in and out sinds the release of the MDA, it think needs to grow in quality, not shrink.
Where is the poll option "Complete Disagree!" ???
ebsbow said:
I don't think he isn't that wrong at all. A ROM needs to work, period.
It's the core of you device where all your other stuff runs on. Most of us use our device trough the day, not just in emulators.
Its very important that it works before you roll it out to the public. If you want beta testers, then say so and don't just drop it on the users and leave.
People will not come back! And a lot of new users don't know what the forum is about. but they are WM users.
@ mblaster: I am here too, I am not bored at all.
Sure the forums says 'Developers' and not 'Tinker-bells', but most of the developers here are 'Real Pro's', they develop for the real world, not just to tinker of boredom. They have an plan, and make great thing that works. You will find there stuff on new released devices all over, including the iPhone!
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I say this again, a ROM is the core of your device where other software runs in/on.
Its not an piece of software like an games you just install.
ROM development is a lot of work, its not just switching some graphics and putting in some already-applications an not care about the rest. It is an art and an profession, and real cook is an master of devices
I think what Bardof means is that the quality-of-service needs to go up again, not the volume of ROM's, even on the new devices.
An ROM that doesn't work right, gives a bad taste to the Windows Mobile platform. We all know the effects..
I love this forum and WM, I have been in and out sinds the release of the MDA, it think needs to grow in quality, not shrink.
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I agree with the most of what you are saying. I haven't been replying on most of the posts on this forum but I've been reading a lot and testing a lot of ROMS, and it's a shame that only few of them work OK. Always need to install this and that CAB to get your phone working.
But....I know that cooking a ROM isn't that easy and it can take a lot of work and many of the good cookers don't get the respect they should, or help.
Hey, you probably heard that WP7 has been ported on HD2.
Well, that's a great start. But I think we can try it out... Even it would be a lot buggy or slow or anything else... I think if we contact DFT (Dark Forces Team) they might help us out... I know it's near impossible (because of our ARMv6 CPU. == WP7 needs an ARMv7 CPU which HD2 has it.) But it's not impossible completely... Let's do something about it... What do you say devs?
I'm just waiting for the hackers team is to discuss about this. Because I am only new person in the world PHONE.
im will suporter to u all
Come on ,it will be great to run wp7 on topaz
Oh golly, because you demanding it will sure make them motivated.
When you say "Lets do something" you must mean, "I cant do it, can you do it for me?". Why not learn reverse engineering, and then doing something yourself? Because realy, if you want dev's to do all the work for you, you obviously should stick to the Windows-GUI manipulation level, doubt being spoof-feed will help you.
Desert Storm said:
Oh golly, because you demanding it will sure make them motivated.
When you say "Lets do something" you must mean, "I cant do it, can you do it for me?". Why not learn reverse engineering, and then doing something yourself? Because realy, if you want dev's to do all the work for you, you obviously should stick to the Windows-GUI manipulation level, doubt being spoof-feed will help you.
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First of all, I don't see any reason to answer you directly. In second, I'm a developer but can't do it alone. I'm asking for help. So just keep learning things. You may someday understand what I was asking for.
Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing a port for the Topaz, and I'd probly try it out... But I'm looking forward to the cracking of WP7 on WP7 phones so that I can upgrade to a new phone and not be stuck with that horrible start screen
Black.Heart said:
First of all, I don't see any reason to answer you directly. In second, I'm a developer but can't do it alone. I'm asking for help. So just keep learning things. You may someday understand what I was asking for.
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I know you have some developing skills, although I dont know if it goes beyond changing the registry and gui-manipulation, but the system-level developers are unlikely to port the Windows 7 to the Topaz, mainly because its a old device now, outdated and slow.
(And I know that you've got some knowledge because I used eclipse for few days, good ROM)
Desert Storm said:
I know you have some developing skills, although I dont know if it goes beyond changing the registry and gui-manipulation, but the system-level developers are unlikely to port the Windows 7 to the Topaz, mainly because its a old device now, outdated and slow.
(And I know that you've got some knowledge because I used eclipse for few days, good ROM)
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I appreciate that... But as I mentioned above, it's near impossible... Not completely. Your'e right... Topaz has ARMv6 processor... WP7 requires ARMv7. But i'm talking about experiencing it on Topaz... By the way, I agree with oldness of Topaz... I'm gonna buy a Desire HD
It's wishfull thinking and never going to happen. The best us topaz owners can expect to get for our outdated phones is a 100% working Android.
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The best us topaz owners can expect to get for our outdated phones is a 100% working Android.
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And wouldn't that be great!!!!
That ain't true I find that the ui from wp7 is lite and simple. This can easily be ported to our devices with a little magic. But The part of windows live games or xbox live is the part that our devices cant handle. Our devices aren't old they where made cheap by htc and att to cover some sectors of the market. But our devices could have been easily been made with the same stuff as hd2, as few months passed since each launched.
The ui is simpler than ours and faster I think it could be done......just that I need to finish studying by then to make this. And I don't think of waiting is another great idea. As we are shadowed by what could have been if we had a twin processor to hd2's. But, we bought this and I find it great!
And please respect each other!!!!!
I think it's NOT possible because of hardware requirements.
mahra said:
I think it's NOT possible because of hardware requirements.
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our device was made of tinking on this.. As I read before it was tought to be ported in form of an upgrade. But it was left in the clouds. And our device have the custom buttons on a new device like android and wp7. Ram can't be a prob. If the UI was made for speed and simplicity. Just the xbox live games won't run properly.
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our device was made of tinking on this.. As I read before it was tought to be ported in form of an upgrade. But it was left in the clouds. And our device have the custom buttons on a new device like android and wp7. Ram can't be a prob. If the UI was made for speed and simplicity. Just the xbox live games won't run properly.
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I agree... But no one is taking TD2 seriously. Because there are at least 2 similar devices (TP2, THD) no one is focusing on TD2. That's why we don't see any salient improvement on Android development. HD2 devs focused on it and made the progress finished soon. I think the best way we can do right now, is contacting Cotulla from DFT. He could help me and other devs. I just don't know how to contact him!
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I agree... But no one is taking TD2 seriously. Because there are at least 2 similar devices (TP2, THD) no one is focusing on TD2. That's why we don't see any salient improvement on Android development. HD2 devs focused on it and made the progress finished soon. I think the best way we can do right now, is contacting Cotulla from DFT. He could help me and other devs. I just don't know how to contact him!
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AH man! I've been focussing on another site. WWW.htc-pure.com, which I am a moderator. And for years I've been here quietly. but I think I will try to move here to help. Lets see what I can do.
wp7 requires ARMv7 instruction set on cpu. but topaz is just ARMv6 i think. that's why I think it's not possible
Moreover, why would you want WP7? The only thing it has going for it is that it runs smoothly and doesn't crash, which it would NOT do if someone did manage to port it. Better off building skins over 6.5.x; that way you could at least retain functionality...
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AH man! I've been focussing on another site. WWW.htc-pure.com, which I am a moderator. And for years I've been here quietly. but I think I will try to move here to help. Lets see what I can do.
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I am waiting, good luck man
Black.Heart said:
I agree... But no one is taking TD2 seriously. Because there are at least 2 similar devices (TP2, THD) no one is focusing on TD2. That's why we don't see any salient improvement on Android development. HD2 devs focused on it and made the progress finished soon. I think the best way we can do right now, is contacting Cotulla from DFT. He could help me and other devs. I just don't know how to contact him!
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actually, hd2 had devices that only need to be (partially) reverse-engeneered. hell some libs etc worked directly from Desire, cotulla took half of its radio SW to get rmnet data working and ...HD7...well it's hd2 without hardware buttons!...
magldr is child's play and development was over in 2 months but they kept it testing for that time to see how phone will respond to tottaly diffrent os.
now find something like that for Touch(something).
htc was lazy with hardware at the time and hackers took advantage of that.
but these devices nature is so much different that every piece of system would have to be homebrew-and devs struggle with android for a long time with sources and inch from their nose. imagine rewriting even basic parts of kernel to support armv6 without any proper source. i truly can't imagine wp7 being done...
even with few developers, reasonable timeframe would be over year or two!
i own 3 htc phones and one td2 just for fun of it, to see evolution of htc's over the years.. go buy yourself hd2 if you really wish to hack the hell out of your phone. they go really cheap - around $200 - and save yourself time
stirkac said:
actually, hd2 had devices that only need to be (partially) reverse-engeneered. hell some libs etc worked directly from Desire, cotulla took half of its radio SW to get rmnet data working and ...HD7...well it's hd2 without hardware buttons!...
magldr is child's play and development was over in 2 months but they kept it testing for that time to see how phone will respond to tottaly diffrent os.
now find something like that for Touch(something).
htc was lazy with hardware at the time and hackers took advantage of that.
but these devices nature is so much different that every piece of system would have to be homebrew-and devs struggle with android for a long time with sources and inch from their nose. imagine rewriting even basic parts of kernel to support armv6 without any proper source. i truly can't imagine wp7 being done...
even with few developers, reasonable timeframe would be over year or two!
i own 3 htc phones and one td2 just for fun of it, to see evolution of htc's over the years.. go buy yourself hd2 if you really wish to hack the hell out of your phone. they go really cheap - around $200 - and save yourself time
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I agree. I'm moving to iPhone 4 or Sensation or EVO 3D...
I am sorry but we won't get android wave, it is not a popular device and people are happy with only bada.
For sure !
Bada is a good OS but Android is even better.
And it is always a pleasure to have a dual boot device and to switch between OS.
I'm outta here. having just got a Sony Ericsson ray which is roughly equivalent in hardware terms I've discovered a wonderful new mobile life where the OS really works.
random lagging totally not present on android 2.3.4. on BADA this is still present and there are even random crashes (insufficient memory). I've seen Android baulk when doing Facebook + Google navigation + music + just pictures. when returning to the home page some icons take a second or two to fill. that's it.
Web browser : woah! at last a browser that properly handles full desktop sites complete with flash. even chatroulette works! oh and it doesn't forget passwords too.
gps : hot lock in under 10 seconds EVERY TIME
cold fix in under 1 minute using agps. around 3 minutes without data. admitted the phone probably has a more recent chipset but then I've seen a Samsung galaxy S work nearly as well, why not the wave!?
navigation : Google navigation built in. perhaps this is a gadget so I tried igo and sygic.. no stuttering whatever. finally a phone with gps that just works without worrying if it has crashed or is still stuttering at the last junction. Why does bada stutter whereas android doesn't and on similar hardware?!
oh the apps! enough said
Customisation on android is unbelievable. hey I think I'll swap out the keyboard for something better, no problem! Samsung please unlock the OS.
and on a final note, I video skyped my family today using the phone. Samsung, unlock voip now or better dump BADA and give the wave a well deserved android rom please.
Thank you and goodbye BADA.
A lesson in how not to do it.
The project has failed because of pig headedness and neglect. People asking the questions they where told not to, leading to developers getting irate and walking away (this however, is something which any developers must face with a grin and bare it so they don't have any excuse either). In my opinion the Wave community don't deserve Android on their devices.
Sorry if I've offended anyone with this but i have been following this section for many months and over that time the above has become painfully obvious to me.
I hope the developers involved go off to be successful with projects on other devices.
All the best.
While the project could've been handled better, I wouldn't say it has failed yet. Rebellos and Oleg are still working on it AFAIK.
Hope to get android rom for Wave soon! Thank you developers! We only use normal phone for Call/Msg features but we need more than that with a smart phone. Bada is not so bad but i think samsung must do so much to improve it, apps, memories manage etc...
tydaikho said:
Hope to get android rom for Wave soon! Thank you developers! We only use normal phone for Call/Msg features but we need more than that with a smart phone. Bada is not so bad but i think samsung must do so much to improve it, apps, memories manage etc...
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Trust me on this, they won't, but I've been using it like you, the dual boot isn't much of an inconvinience to me. The only problems I've had are lack of 3G, accelerometer and some apps not working due to Froyo/Filesystem.
I've got round all the other problems ^^
Are you kidding me? We can't reaching Android level because of you and you-like HUMANS. Please stop demotivating us and get the hell out of here...
Yeah i'm looking forward for it patiently ^^
what a silly and useless thread... closing this is the only sensefull thing about stuff like that.... i does not help anyone-.- demotivating developers is the only effect of threads like that
all said. i'm in for android on wave2.
well,
sitting in a chair for 10 hours daily... working on some IT **** is making me suffocate.
BADA has no release of v2.0 for my region and i'm stuck with v1.2.
im just a jughead.. a lazy bastard who wants to have fun with this new toy called S8530.
I hope all the devs round here help each other and do some real cool things with their brains.
all said. i'm in for android on wave2.
It's a shame that this excellent hardware cannot yet run Android complete with modem chip drivers. I am still waiting for android on Bada as I have a number of people around me who like me have been decieved my BADA. If I can help, please feel free to contact me on the forum
p.s. I point out that I'm by no means a dev but I'm capable of flashing firmwares on my GT8500.
no, sold it!
The Wave isn't as good as you think. I hated the pentile screen, the round edges that made it slip out of my hands all the time, the ****ty OS and the small screen.
Bought the HD2 and it is a whole different class. Sorry guys, but the bada phones are literally cheap crap. The OS is at least as important as the hardware. Bada is crap, no matter what you say.
Get an Android smartphone, you'll be much much happier!
433Mhz said:
Get an Android smartphone, you'll be much much happier!
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I think that this thread have to be closed, it is not the spirit of xda.
All member sould support all developments as it is the goal of xda.
Also the hardware of the Waves are really good ,and as you said the os is very important, porting android will make of the Waves a wonderful device.
By buying a new device and to tell all the xda community that you think that the Waves phones are crap you just actually said that you are weak (for the xda community).
I can say I've now given up waiting.
I'm tired of the Wave, it's boring me and I can see no Android port coming around anytime soon. I have the resources to buy a new phone, hopefully going to be a Tegra 3 monster.
I will make sure the damned thing does all I want this time!
I respect the work that the people here at XDA are doing, but I think even they know this will never be finished, I guess it's a learning curve.
I tried to get some interest built up and succeeded in some ways, but oh well.
Bada is dead, but wave is superb!
Ok, i want an android phone with basically same specs with wave and in any case hardware call buttons and not touch. I cannot find anything like that!
I sold my wave 2 n bought a samsung galaxy advance i9070
and i request to All DEV plz start new project samsung galaxy advance i9070 run to Jelly Bean it's possible
Rebellos,Tigrouzen,fire855,Oleg_k, mijoma, nbates66, anghelyi, mikegapinski
will miss this forum and all member thanks for corporate i miss you all
You can install this : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1917929
That post is like: "Hey I just wanted to tell you that I am sick of waiting so I bought another phone and to all developers, you are coming with me and make an android port for me right?"
If you are a girl, i will missing you.. :silly:
ps : wave is my first phone i bought with my own money, and i will never trade it even with new-rumored-100-core-android-prototype
singhdharmendra48 said:
I sold my wave 2 n bought a samsung galaxy advance i9070
and i request to All DEV plz start new project samsung galaxy advance i9070 run to Jelly Bean it's possible
Rebellos,Tigrouzen,fire855,Oleg_k, mijoma, nbates66, anghelyi, mikegapinski
will miss this forum and all member thanks for corporate i miss you all
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Welcome to the club! I also got a Galaxy S Advance i9070 some weeks ago, which to me is like somewhat an "updated Wave": a bit bigger screen size but same resolution, same superAmoled, some more memory and a dual-core processor but same camera resolution (for pictures and video); also its lighter but at the same time feels cheaper because of the plastic case... I somehow miss my Wave because of the alluminium case (I accidentally threw it to the floor several times and it's still alive! feel like this new one won't resist that much!) and because the pixel density made the Wave screen look better to my taste, and it can fit the same contents in less space, and overall it fits better to my small hands :silly:...
...so I didn't rid off of my old Wave and I expect to continue using it for testing and who knows - maybe if a modem working Badadroid finally comes out maybe I would ever take it back again for normal use.
Anyway, an official Jelly Bean update is announced by Samsung to be available before the end of the year.
PS: also, as far as I know all the moddem roms for i9070 like the one linked by hero355 ara still kernel 2.3.6 based, so they are of no use for me. I probably will stick to the official firmware until a real version update.
thanx fo reply :laugh:
hero355 said:
You can install this : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1917929
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i flesh this rom so warranty loos yes or no ???
singhdharmendra48 said:
i flesh this rom so warranty loos yes or no ???
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Just ask to author of thread.
hero355 said:
Just ask to author of thread.
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thanx for reply
Very important, but I have no WhatsApp nor Facebook...
Good Night To All BADA Member
I go now to bed.
Best Regards
OMG...Kya nautanki hai...weren't you the one crying for LCD driver for 8530?! and now you sold it when they finally have 8530 LCD driver??
Anyways enjoy your new phone!
NHS2008 said:
OMG...Kya nautanki hai...weren't you the one crying for LCD driver for 8530?! and now you sold it when they finally have 8530 LCD driver??
Anyways enjoy your new phone!
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background music : don't cry - gun n' roses
enjoy.. xixixixi
You know rebellos and tigrouzen,
at the one side i love you!
at the other side i hate you!
i love you because you make a dream come true
i hate you because you not working together, what rom shall i use?? Aokp FnF nand (when fin) or cya rom?
Nand:
Ultimate Fast
cyanogen:
Led flashlight
29mb ram more
work togheter and make a good rom, please! (not saying that you guys do bad work here, this is great)
GreekBlood said:
You know rebellos and tigrouzen,
at the one side i love you!
at the other side i hate you!
i love you because you make a dream come true
i hate you because you not working together, what rom shall i use?? Aokp FnF nand (when fin) or cya rom?
Nand:
Ultimate Fast
cyanogen:
Led flashlight
29mb ram more
work togheter and make a good rom, please! (not saying that you guys do bad work here, this is great)
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I think in one way they are working together.. Rebellos fix a lot of things.. and tigrouzen makes the rom faster etc.. :good:
frank151995 said:
I think in one way they are working together.. Rebellos fix a lot of things.. and tigrouzen makes the rom faster etc.. :good:
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yes, but they dont combinate the roms!!
sure i want a working flash light, but i dont want to have a rom that has painfull lag (non of those has, but for heavy games it has lagg, like mc3. it works only with chainfire 3d at fire v1, otherwise too much lagg).
so it will be better if they combinate them AND make different roms.
so its actually the same rom specs, but other builds like MIUI, AOKP, CYANOGEN
GreekBlood said:
yes, but they dont combinate the roms!!
sure i want a working flash light, but i dont want to have a rom that has painfull lag (non of those has, but for heavy games it has lagg, like mc3. it works only with chainfire 3d at fire v1, otherwise too much lagg).
so it will be better if they combinate them AND make different roms.
so its actually the same rom specs, but other builds like MIUI, AOKP, CYANOGEN
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STOP!
if you want to said something like this again.
use private message straight to to them.. okay, buddy?
don't start a war that u didn't know the problem is.
eatandpeace said:
STOP!
if you want to said something like this again.
use private message straight to to them.. okay, buddy?
don't start a war that u didn't know the problem is.
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at private messages, they never respond.
they look here sometimes.
and if you know the problem, why dont you tell us everything??
GreekBlood said:
at private messages, they never respond.
they look here sometimes.
and if you know the problem, why dont you tell us everything??
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You want story?
Read all their post since fisrt joining XDA!
I had read that years ago.
that keep me not to asking and asking again.
And the problem?
much of us cant help them with the code!
that's is the main problem here.. XD
I'm expecting all buddy here to :
-Report a new bugs (not repeating what has been known)
-Become a dev (if you know how to code)
-Polite (like say sorry if you suck at english)
I'm NOT expecting us to :
-Pushing Dev
-Baby Crying for something
-Request A to Z (OMG, dev know what to do)
ps : i'm sorry if i said a wrong thing, expressing my feeling in english is kind of difficulties. again, i'm not have a bad feeling for you.
eatandpeace said:
You want story?
Read all their post since fisrt joining XDA!
I had read that years ago.
that keep me not to asking and asking again.
And the problem?
much of us cant help them with the code!
that's is the main problem here.. XD
I'm expecting all buddy here to :
-Report a new bugs (not repeating what has been known)
-Become a dev (if you know how to code)
-Polite (like say sorry if you suck at english)
I'm NOT expecting us to :
-Pushing Dev
-Baby Crying for something
-Request A to Z (OMG, dev know what to do)
ps : i'm sorry if i said a wrong thing, expressing my feeling in english is kind of difficulties. again, i'm not have a bad feeling for you.
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well, i know the fully begin of android 4.0.4 on wave, but a bit of the 2.2
i wasnt intrested in the 2.2 rom because the screendrivers didnt work at my wave 1. only that buggy feel, i thought that even bada was better than that rom.
now i use every day badadroid.
only thing what i want (maybe others too) is that if they work togheter on 1 rom, the desteny will be seen earlier
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well, i know the fully begin of android 4.0.4 on wave, but a bit of the 2.2
i wasnt intrested in the 2.2 rom because the screendrivers didnt work at my wave 1. only that buggy feel, i thought that even bada was better than that rom.
now i use every day badadroid.
only thing what i want (maybe others too) is that if they work togheter on 1 rom, the desteny will be seen earlier
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Working together is not all about working in one thing. With differencies, they could have their own idea free with possibilities. And then inspiring each other. It worked the same as together.
Because it is not a job, they dont get paid, consider it as an art.
ps : Employer do what their boos said . XDA Devs are not employer..they are artist
Link. : http://chn.ge/1oAvQ5E
Well well well...
we have completed above 100signs of our petition
So its time to mail them :
Process
Firstly go to : http://opensource.samsung.com/reception/receptionSub.do?method=inquiryView
then fill all the informations ( Ive provided Screen
Shot for reference )
then fill all things as asked and copy paste the
message ive written (confirmed with @T3snake )
here you go :
Requester : Your Name
ID(E-mail) : Your email adress
Country : select Your Country
Inquiry Type :
Model : Enter your phone model
Message :
Dear Samsung
, the development community, are striving very
hard to achieve that objective. Many users of
Android based Samsung devices want to make the
phones released by you truly inspirational and
surpass any competition. These powerhouses will
achieve its true potential only when the
development community get the Rom Source Codes
will not only benefits the end user but will also be
highly beneficial forSamsung in the long run, as
these customers will then get utmost satisfaction
with their device and will then help in the word-of-
mouth publicity of Samsung products all over the
world.
A truly inspirational product is born when it
inspires the masses and is able to mesmerize the
entire world. With great phones like Samsung Galaxy Star Duos Gt-S5282, we are witnessing a paradigm shift in the
mobile industry and need your little help in making
this turning point even more monumental.
We request you to release the source code for the rom(and not just the kernel) as well as drivers for the different hardware components that require it.
We hope we will not be disappointed by a customer
centric company like yours. Hoping for a positive
response.
Warm regards,
A true Samsung fan.
Add petition link
send it ; Done!
Also..
One thing is signing the petition but we also need the proper email address for the samsung people to know that the petition is growing....
Also ill update more specific info for that petition..
If u have mail address for any one who is responsible for the source code.... pls give that here or pm me
I will update it in the petition.
Thank YOU!
DONE...!
Done..
Signed it
Share it to your friends
we have to do it...
share it to your friends who will help you and us so that we can goal our target to 100
anyways thanks.
how the fubba uubba cubba kubba do i sign it? ¯\(°_o)/¯
psych.half said:
how the fubba uubba cubba kubba do i sign it? ¯\(°_o)/¯
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if you have then thanks..
and happy to see you back on xda
( i still remember your humorous jokes O.0
psych.half said:
how the fubba uubba cubba kubba do i sign it? ¯\(°_o)/¯
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Some1 updated the device tree and added some patches..
All ur dev records gone....... U r strange or crazy (whatever u wanna take as a compliment)
Also help me with some content in that petition
Dont even know what im asking for
T3snake said:
Some1 updated the device tree and added some patches..
All ur dev records gone....... U r strange or crazy (whatever u wanna take as a compliment)
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oh, you mean this github.com/codekidX/android_device_samsung_gt-s5282 ?
that tree is not even half complete.. and sorry but half of the commits there are ******** >_>
the only complete tree is cm-10.1 by unjust. however he did a blind update for cm11, but that needs a lot of reworking :|
and as for the patches, you can see my post in the other thread.. :s
i'll take that as a compliment, thank you ._.
Om! Lp ChazZ said:
and happy to see you back on xda
( i still remember your humorous jokes O.0
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i'm Back! with a capital B and an exclamation mark
i don't remeber joking about anything :/
and screw petitions.. if you think samsung will release anything (other than the kernel which they have to if they don't wanna get ***** because it's GPL), then you all need take your head out of samsung's ****
samsung doesn't want people to make custom roms.. if their 1 year old Galaxy Star 4.1.2 is running a smooth and stable 4.4.4, who the hell is gonna buy their new Galaxy Sh!t 4.4.4 with their new and improved Touchwiz?
psych.half said:
oh, you mean this github.com/codekidX/android_device_samsung_gt-s5282 ?
that tree is not even half complete.. and sorry but half of the commits there are ******** >_>
the only complete tree is cm-10.1 by unjust. however he did a blind update for cm11, but that needs a lot of reworking :|
and as for the patches, you can see my post in the other thread.. :s
i'll take that as a compliment, thank you ._.
i'm Back! with a capital B and an exclamation mark
i don't remeber joking about anything :/
and screw petitions.. if you think samsung will release anything (other than the kernel which they have to if they don't wanna get ***** because it's GPL), then you all need take your head out of samsung's ****
samsung doesn't want people to make custom roms.. if their 1 year old Galaxy Star 4.1.2 is running a smooth and stable 4.4.4, who the hell is gonna buy their new Galaxy Sh!t 4.4.4 with their new and improved Touchwiz?
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Even if we dont get anything ill do all i can to annoy them
I really want to tdo the best to annoy them
Btw did they release sources for y ? If they did maybe well have a chance
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T3snake said:
Even if we dont get anything ill do all i can to annoy them
I really want to tdo the best to annoy them
Btw did they release sources for y ? If they did maybe well have a chance
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it's of no use, they will just ignore it.. just take exynos for example :|
nope not that i know of.. samdung only releases source for kernel, cause that's what they need to release anyway..
the source was released by broadcom for their gpu videocore iv for raspberry pi, which iirc turned out to be not so helpful for galaxy y..
looking at the gerrit review of androidarmv6.. it looks like they are modifying sources to work with proprietary blobs and modifying other sources to work with the device.. and that's for audio, gpu etc...
those, work in this device.. camera can be fixed on further looking.. the HAL was working but crash is due to some memory heap error..
the only problem is of ril.. and i already have said about ril in other thread
Done
Done
I dont think samsung cares about releasing source other than kernel which is why this friday I'm buying Moto G and leaving Samsung for good. You guys should do the same since samsung wont care and keep making bull**** phones.
ironman38102 said:
I dont think samsung cares about releasing source other than kernel which is why this friday I'm buying Moto G and leaving Samsung for good. You guys should do the same since samsung wont care and keep making bull**** phones.
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Only because they *must*, unless they only want to sell their phones where copyright does not exsist. They are not by required by the apache license to give the source. Just take a look what they did and are doing with the exynos.
I don't know what the f**k is samsung doing, they could have just updated this old device, but no they release new ones with basically just a little hardware improvement which could have been done firstly in the old one. :|
Speaking about hardware the sc8810 board used this device can handle 640x480 resolution and 1gb of ram just fine. And the new star ii they are going to release is supposed to use sc8815 board which can handle 800x480 resolution.
But no, they have to cripple it down to no good and make people think spredtum is ****ty. though not good as the big games out there. spreadtrum makes considerable SoC for the price it is offered.
And you can find far better spec'd spreadtrum devices produced by other companies. But many people won't even look at those devies and buy the crippled samsung ones, cause it's samusung duh. >_>
And oh, they also say, the 1gb galaxy s3 is not able to handle kitkat. and here people get kitkat running on 3 year old armv6 device with 290mb of ram :3
Good, thing my star broke, i wanted to throw it anyway. =|
By the way welcome back. and thanks for contributing to this device. if it was not for you and others this device wouldn't even imagine of making a place in xda.
And have fun with your new Moto G =)
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Only because they *must*, unless they only want to sell their phones where copyright does not exsist. They are not by required by the apache license to give the source. Just take a look what they did and are doing with the exynos.
I don't know what the f**k is samsung doing, they could have just updated this old device, but no they release new ones with basically just a little hardware improvement which could have been done firstly in the old one. :|
Speaking about hardware the sc8810 board used this device can handle 640x480 resolution and 1gb of ram just fine. And the new star ii they are going to release is supposed to use sc8815 board which can handle 800x480 resolution.
But no, they have to cripple it down to no good and make people think spredtum is ****ty. though not good as the big games out there. spreadtrum makes considerable SoC for the price it is offered.
And you can find far better spec'd spreadtrum devices produced by other companies. But many people won't even look at those devies and buy the crippled samsung ones, cause it's samusung duh. >_>
And oh, they also say, the 1gb galaxy s3 is not able to handle kitkat. and here people get kitkat running on 3 year old armv6 device with 290mb of ram :3
Good, thing my star broke, i wanted to throw it anyway. =|
By the way welcome back. and thanks for contributing to this device. if it was not for you and others this device wouldn't even imagine of making a place in xda.
And have fun with your new Moto G =)
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hmm waiting for mine to break. But ill have to break it with perfect timing to get a new mobile.
And they released 4 new phones just when better mobiles were crushing the market. The biggest noobs here might be better than samsung at such things. Uhhh!
Well this 1 was the gud 1(At its price) when i bought it so really cant complain on the better mobiles but if they just paid a bit of attention on this phone No-one wud be mad
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Only because they *must*, unless they only want to sell their phones where copyright does not exsist. They are not by required by the apache license to give the source. Just take a look what they did and are doing with the exynos.
I don't know what the f**k is samsung doing, they could have just updated this old device, but no they release new ones with basically just a little hardware improvement which could have been done firstly in the old one. :|
Speaking about hardware the sc8810 board used this device can handle 640x480 resolution and 1gb of ram just fine. And the new star ii they are going to release is supposed to use sc8815 board which can handle 800x480 resolution.
But no, they have to cripple it down to no good and make people think spredtum is ****ty. though not good as the big games out there. spreadtrum makes considerable SoC for the price it is offered.
And you can find far better spec'd spreadtrum devices produced by other companies. But many people won't even look at those devies and buy the crippled samsung ones, cause it's samusung duh. >_>
And oh, they also say, the 1gb galaxy s3 is not able to handle kitkat. and here people get kitkat running on 3 year old armv6 device with 290mb of ram :3
Good, thing my star broke, i wanted to throw it anyway. =|
By the way welcome back. and thanks for contributing to this device. if it was not for you and others this device wouldn't even imagine of making a place in xda.
And have fun with your new Moto G =)
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I really tried to get CM in this device but due to limited source code it is impossible. Thanks for your contributions too and it is good to be back!
T3snake said:
hmm waiting for mine to break. But ill have to break it with perfect timing to get a new mobile.
And they released 4 new phones just when better mobiles were crushing the market. The biggest noobs here might be better than samsung at such things. Uhhh!
Well this 1 was the gud 1(At its price) when i bought it so really cant complain on the better mobiles but if they just paid a bit of attention on this phone No-one wud be mad
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well, they didnt update star,pocket neo, young, :|
i havent checked what 4 devices are.. but if those devices are getting 4.4.2, i doubt they will even update those to 4.4.4
ironman38102 said:
I really tried to get CM in this device but due to limited source code it is impossible. Thanks for your contributions too and it is good to be back!
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ril would have worked without source if they had not modified the API too much, the audio, hwc and others work pretty well..
if star 2 will use standard api, there is a chance it can be portred for star, too.. as the board is similar
anways, this device has no developer for now, at least a bootable build of cm11 could be made if any one was working on it :3
welcome back bro
i checked with the htc devs but to no avail none of them are ready to touch a stupid samsung device(u can see why)
@superuser tried to help but naa it dint work out.
and are u gonna develop 4 dis device?
and ur star broke?
so darn lucky:laugh:
@T3snake reply my post
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@psych.half good to see you back XD
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