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what should I buy and there is a big jump in performance??
I recommend you to wait for some time untill other tablets quad core processors are released and their comparison . asus tablets have allot of porblems in rooting and hardware defects also the prime may have quad core but i can't gurantee its quality , so wait
If you can wait, then wait. I've heard bad things about ASUS but I'm not a pro.
I have the Asus Transformer and have to admit it is better then the SGT 10.1, but I will let you make your own opinion. It has the micro sd card slot which makes rooting and custom rom installation much easier. Asus are know for their motherboard after all Asus is a computer company. I personally will be getting one when it comes out. Go to the Asus TF forum and check it out
I'm not sure is Asus has cleaned up their act but I went through 5 or so Transformers when they first came out and everyone of them ended up with light bleeding on the screen.
I'm on my one and only Galaxy Tab 10.1 and I haven't had a single problem. Throw Task650's latest ROM on a Galaxy Tab and you will be taken care of.
Not to mention I'm sure there are plenty of Ice Cream Sandwich builds being worked on.
I'm not sold on the quad-core yet. The iPad runs smoothly on less HW than the GT. I think Android will get there.
I used to have TF but i switched to GT, and have not been disappointed, i think GT is much better, but maybe you should hit a store and try them both out. Just remember that TF prime dosent have 3G.
yes asus transformer have problems root with last hw version
i will suggest wait for samsung's 2nd gen tablets with tegra 3.. i m playing with my 10.1 now while waiting for that..
I'd suggest that you WAIT! don't jump the gun on an extremely NEW Tech, give it some time to settle, and to see if its actually Ok!
Just an advice!
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My first tablet was the transformer TF101 but it suffered with build quality issues, so replaced it for a Galaxy Tab and haven't looked back.
I'm interested to see how the Prime performs but am suspicious of battery claims. I wouldn't buy unless the price was £349 or under and that goes for all android tablets - they are too expensive (but did pay £399 for SGT )
same here. i went through 4 faulty tf's. one was separating at the lower left corner after week, the second had tons of bleed, the third had bleed and started separating at the upper right corner, and the last one had bad bleed.
all 4 had the speaker balance issue too.
i like the new prime on paper, but asus left a bad taste with my first tablet with them.
I've had both and like the Galaxy Tab better. Had quality control issues with the Transformer and had to pay freaking shipping on a screen issue which was clearly not my fault to get it replaced. I'm now very skeptical on any tablets Asus releases from now on.
ordered one, tomorrow I will receive it
it will be my first android tab ,I wish there will be no issue
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i will suggest wait for samsung's 2nd gen tablets with tegra 3.. i m playing with my 10.1 now while waiting for that..
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That's Exactly, is what I'm doing!
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I've had both and like the Galaxy Tab better. Had quality control issues with the Transformer and had to pay freaking shipping on a screen issue which was clearly not my fault to get it replaced. I'm now very skeptical on any tablets Asus releases from now on.
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You see! ASUS will remain ASUS, they for sure has some stretch and their own innovations, but they actually keep forgetting a bit 'bout Quality Control, this might change in the near future, but till then, the Hardware just does not look as clean and QC'ed when compared to SGT 10.1 - at least - .
Then again, Who ever have guessed 8 years ago that SAMSUNG will be as it is today? it was literally a cheap brand like ... / ... / ... but look at it today, Big boys back then were Sony, Panasonic, JVC, Toshiba, etc.
OOpppps, almost forgot HP iPAQ (1999)! with Windows Pocket PC 2000 or was it 1999? I remember later that I upgraded it to Pocket PC 2002.
We are now going through a high-pace-technologies Race, never seen before, that's how I see it, and that's how I feel bout it too. We Win!
Not sure about everyone else but I'm into the do not jump onto the extremely new tech if you're just to enjoy the Tablet experience.
Will be getting my GT soon. Was considering TF Prime but now going against it due to the support an obvious quality issues that comes with it as GT is probably more "seasoned" by now with enough supporting ROMs
I had a ASUS Transformer, keyboard and all and I sold it for the Galaxy Tab. I'm liking the G Tab a lot more. However, I do miss the micro sd card slot I had on my Transformer. Easy upgrade to 48gigs of storage.
But if you're looking to just buy one now, I agree with a few other people in the thread. Hold off. There is a beautiful horizon of Terga 3 that looks mystical.
i was thinking of getting the prime due known reasons then learned it will not have 3g for another 5-6 months. i just said eeeh get the samsung and change it when prime 3g comes out. god knows what will be released from samsung when 3g prime comes out
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Then again, Who ever have guessed 8 years ago that SAMSUNG will be as it is today? it was literally a cheap brand like ... / ... / ... but look at it today, Big boys back then were Sony, Panasonic, JVC, Toshiba, etc.
OOpppps, almost forgot HP iPAQ (1999)! with Windows Pocket PC 2000 or was it 1999? I remember later that I upgraded it to Pocket PC 2002.
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wow, forgot about those. my first ppc was casio caiopeia(sp?). after that i got a toshiba something with some kind of 800mHz processor and a full color screen! and to think those cost just as much as tablets today!
i'm so tempted to get a prime just, but i think i'll wait a month or two for the initial tally on qc. plus that'll give time for the second batch to come out. last year i had to place orders with 3 companies to make sure i got 1 tf because of the demand.
if going by tegra 2 build quality among the makers, i do think i'll wait for a samsung also.
I won't bash Asus, from the reviews I've seen the Prime looks sweet, that screen sounds amazing.. BUT... at least one reviewer talked about a flaw that was also present on the Transformer.. the edges of the Prime are not smooth & gently curved like the Galaxy Tab & it isn't as comfortable in the hands.
I loved my Transformer, till I started using it to read in bed & it was practically cutting into my hands.. for $500 I want a device I can hold for a couple hours while I'm reading. I'll probably still get one but I'm in no rush to pre-order. I'm actually really happy with the GTab, it suits my needs quite nicely.
Ok, I keep hearing around here that the TF201 is NOT being discontinued. And it seems reasonable that it would stick around. However, at my company, we had ordered 1 for the CFO and he really likes his and they are talking about ordering 6 more for other managers. The lady that does ordering called our vendor and they are saying that they talked to Asus directly and the TF201 is discontinued now. They said we would have to wait for the TF300.
Has there been any OFFICIAL announcement from Asus either way on this?
Its been discontinued for a while now as far as i know...because of all the wi-fi and GPS problems this specific model has. I believe the TF300 will be out in June or Q3 of 2012...whilest the TF700t will be out shortly after the TF300.
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Ok, I keep hearing around here that the TF201 is NOT being discontinued. And it seems reasonable that it would stick around. However, at my company, we had ordered 1 for the CFO and he really likes his and they are talking about ordering 6 more for other managers. The lady that does ordering called our vendor and they are saying that they talked to Asus directly and the TF201 is discontinued now. They said we would have to wait for the TF300.
Has there been any OFFICIAL announcement from Asus either way on this?
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I believe ASUS posted on their facebook page that the TF201 was not being discontinued and this was just a rumor. However this has been a couple months ago now so things may have changed. I also believe Gary Key stated a while back on the forums that the discontinued talk was merely a rumor.
As of March they are still manufacturing the TF201 as we have seen C3 serials show up in stores. It will be another week or two before we see C4 serials. If we don't start to see C4 serials after a couple of weeks then this would most likely indicate that it is being discontinued.
However, I strongly believe that ASUS is not and will not be discontinuing the TF201 any time soon. This is just speculation. And to answer your question as far as whether or not ASUS has provided an official statement, they have but it has been a couple of months since they did so.
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Ok, I keep hearing around here that the TF201 is NOT being discontinued. And it seems reasonable that it would stick around. However, at my company, we had ordered 1 for the CFO and he really likes his and they are talking about ordering 6 more for other managers. The lady that does ordering called our vendor and they are saying that they talked to Asus directly and the TF201 is discontinued now. They said we would have to wait for the TF300.
Has there been any OFFICIAL announcement from Asus either way on this?
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It is definitely discontinued and has been for several months, and this is evidenced by the VP of marketing on this site saying that it hasn't been discontinued. There are too many problems evidently (1% of all primes have issues).
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Its been discontinued for a while now as far as i know...because of all the wi-fi and GPS problems this specific model has. I believe the TF300 will be out in June or Q3 of 2012...whilest the TF700t will be out shortly after the TF300.
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I was not aware it had been discontinued. Why do you think this is still here?
usa.asus.com/Tablet/Transformer_Pad/Eee_Pad_Transformer_Prime_TF201/
Not this rumor again..lmao. Prime is not being discontinued. PERIOD. End of story. The Asus representative, Gary, even said in his Unofficial thread here just recently that it wasn't going to be discontinued. They still sell it online and at Gamestop, Best Buy, and other brick n mortar stores.
Look at his more recent updates in the op of that thread and you will see. Tell your boss he needs to find another retailer selling it..lol. there are still new people popping in xda everyday with new primes. Plus there's already C3 models out now. Soon we will see C4 ones.
Plus Prime is still heavily advertised on official Asus website. If it were to be discontinued, they would've quickly and easily of removed that info from website. People overreacting..lol.
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Its been discontinued for a while now as far as i know...because of all the wi-fi and GPS problems this specific model has. I believe the TF300 will be out in June or Q3 of 2012...whilest the TF700t will be out shortly after the TF300.
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Actually the tf-700 might not release in the u.s. at all. Plus now they are saying it won't be released anywhere until end of year more than likely. Check out the other thread where someone posted an email from Asus on the infinity pad.
Plus if it were discontinued, we would constantly see new model serial numbers pop up. Don't believe all the negative discontinued hype.
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Not this rumor again..lmao. Prime is not being discontinued. PERIOD. End of story. The Asus representative, Gary, even said in his Unofficial thread here just recently that it wasn't going to be discontinued. They still sell it online and at Gamestop, Best Buy, and other brick n mortar stores.
Look at his more recent updates in the op of that thread and you will see. Tell your boss he needs to find another retailer selling it..lol. there are still new people popping in xda everyday with new primes. Plus there's already C3 models out now. Soon we will see C4 ones.
Plus Prime is still heavily advertised on official Asus website. If it were to be discontinued, they would've quickly and easily of removed that info from website. People overreacting..lol.
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Actually the tf-700 might not release in the u.s. at all. Plus now they are saying it won't be released anywhere until end of year more than likely. Check out the other thread where someone posted an email from Asus on the infinity pad.
Plus if it were discontinued, we would constantly see new model serial numbers pop up. Don't believe all the negative discontinued hype.
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Yeah I hear you... however, best buy apparently is no longer carrying it. They don't ship it online, and no Best buy within a 200 miles radius of me has it in stock. That includes most of the Twin Cities, Minneapolis/St. Paul area... I think that if they were still actively in production don't you think that somebody would have them in stock? This all seems a little fishy to me... I even looked at bigger cities for Best Buy stock and nothing in Chicago or California area either... The only reason I got mine was because it was a open box that I got at my local Best Buy about a month ago. And mine is one of the older S/Ns, BCOKAS.
Just an observation...
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Yeah I hear you... however, best buy apparently is no longer carrying it. They don't ship it online, and no Best buy within a 200 miles radius of me has it in stock. That includes most of the Twin Cities, Minneapolis/St. Paul area... I think that if they were still actively in production don't you think that somebody would have them in stock? This all seems a little fishy to me... I even looked at bigger cities for Best Buy stock and nothing in Chicago or California area either... The only reason I got mine was because it was a open box that I got at my local Best Buy about a month ago. And mine is one of the older S/Ns, BCOKAS.
Just an observation...
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That's a good observation. I think its more of Asus retooling or adding new components to newer/future primes to eliminate possible issues. We have seen other similar letters like in op stating that. Plus prime can still be found online and at Gamestop. I know the one in my area has them in stock because I called the other day looking for a dock. They said they had no docks ATM, that they only had the tablet itself in stock at that store. Plus there are alot more places than best buy online that would have it. Still doesn't explain the flood of new owners showing up in prime forum everyday. Still doesn't explain why Asus still advertises it on their official u.s. and global website. Which is always updated with new info on products they carry.
I don't feed into the negative stuff as it tends to come more from past complainers and trolls. They love to stir up stuff in prime forum for others. Looking at everything in a negative way and put some crazy spin on things.
I had my Prime since 12/22. An early BCOKA model and works great. Haven't had any real problems with it. Wifi works great on it as I compared it to my Ipad wifi and atrix wifi. Prime is right on par or better than my other units.
It is not being discontinued but im sure if it weren't for the Prime owners complaining, they would've discontinued it. There are clear wifi/gps problems with the Prime due to the aluminum back (hence why their new line has a rubber/plastic strip). There is no reason for ASUS to have so many lines of products with such little differences.
And I'm gonna make a bold guess here, but I think they would much rather replace the Prime with the TF700 and make it $500 instead of $600. The reason they are making it $600 is so that it will seem like a "premium" Prime instead of a Prime replacement. Placing the TF700 at $600 would mean that it surpasses the price of the iPad that has a even higher res display and LTE. And frankly, the general consumer is unlikely to buy a Android tab that is as expensive as the iPad let alone more expensive.
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It is not being discontinued but im sure if it weren't for the Prime owners complaining, they would've discontinued it. There are clear wifi/gps problems with the Prime due to the aluminum back (hence why their new line has a rubber/plastic strip). There is no reason for ASUS to have so many lines of products with such little differences.
And I'm gonna make a bold guess here, but I think they would much rather replace the Prime with the TF700 and make it $500 instead of $600. The reason they are making it $600 is so that it will seem like a "premium" Prime instead of a Prime replacement. Placing the TF700 at $600 would mean that it surpasses the price of the iPad that has a even higher res display and LTE. And frankly, the general consumer is unlikely to buy a Android tab that is as expensive as the iPad let alone more expensive.
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I second that. I believe tf700 will completely replace TF201.
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i want to see the tf300 already! didn't it already go through the fcc?
My honest opinion is..
Why when the new models come out would they carry on making a Tablet that even Asus admits is flawed due to all Aluminium back.
Think Logically if the new models were available now & after reviewing options, would you purchase the TF201 ?
I do not think when new models are released there will be very little, if any demand for the Prime, so the Prime really is living on borrowed time.
As for Demandarins statement
Plus Prime is still heavily advertised on official Asus website. If it were to be discontinued, they would've quickly and easily of removed that info from website
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Surely you are not that naive, Asus would not admit to prime being discontinued untill it has replacement in shops, they want to keep selling primes untill replacement is in shops. Admitting it was discontinued now would greatly affect Sales.
Within 2 or 3 months of the TF300/700 being released the Prime will meet a quiet quick demise.
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I own a prime & dock which I am quite happy with apart from useless GPS
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Yeah I hear you... however, best buy apparently is no longer carrying it. They don't ship it online, and no Best buy within a 200 miles radius of me has it in stock. That includes most of the Twin Cities, Minneapolis/St. Paul area... I think that if they were still actively in production don't you think that somebody would have them in stock?
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Just your area. Prime is still available from Best Buy, not online, you just have to search local stores for inventory. Several around me are in stock atm.
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My honest opinion is..
Why when the new models come out would they carry on making a Tablet that even Asus admits is flawed due to all Aluminium back.
Think Logically if the new models were available now & after reviewing options, would you purchase the TF201 ?
I do not think when new models are released there will be very little, if any demand for the Prime, so the Prime really is living on borrowed time.
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Surely you are not that naive, Asus would not admit to prime being discontinued untill it has replacement in shops, they want to keep selling primes untill replacement is in shops. Admitting it was discontinued now would greatly affect Sales.
Within 2 or 3 months of the TF300/700 being released the Prime will meet a quiet quick demise.
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I own a prime & dock which I am quite happy with apart from useless GPS
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I would easily purchase the prime over those 2. here's why. I don't want a lower spec 300 model. its less powerful, less battery life, display not as good. its regular ips, not ips+ like on prime. plus FCC report already shows 300 wireless performance can't be expected to be better than prime. especially with wifi/BT used at the same time. I don't want a tf-700 model because it will cost more. has less battery life than prime. plus, according to an email posted by another member is from Asus VP of technical whatever states no plans for u.s. release of infinity pad and it won't be released anywhere till the end of the year likely. check it out. so I have no reason to wait. fully satisfied with my prime.
we are still seeing new serial number Models pop up. we had Asus publicly and on this forum stating Prime will not be discontinued. AND YES, ASUS ADMITTED TO LESS THAN 1% OF UNITS HAVING ISSUES AND BEING RETURNED. It was stated on Cnet interview, which they said makes sense, and Gary explained it on this site. So no real concrete proof pointing to them discontinuing it. Come with some better info to back up the claim and then maybe me n others might believe it also. till then, just speculation and false rumors just like the other stuff floating around.
all their tablets now fit a particular price range including the prime. so I would easily take it over the others. its the thinnest and lightest. plus performs great all around. Plus Asus wouldn't happen to be working on a big announcement concerning prime if it were to be discontinued. they wouldn't even have bothered spending the money or research behind a fix to a product to be discontinued. they would just focus on future products instead and let prime die off.
better luck next time. Prime will live on. We will continue to knock all these false rumors down one by one..lmao
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We will have to wait and see who is right
For me the I'm in the Prime is on its Way Out Camp. My guess is TF700 will come out costing $100 more & within very short time primes funeral & TF700's price will drop to what prime is now to compete with that fruity competitor.
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@demandarin
We will have to wait and see who is right
For me the I'm in the Prime is on its Way Out Camp. My guess is TF700 will come out costing $100 more & within very short time primes funeral & TF700's price will drop to what prime is now to compete with that fruity competitor.
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You have my $5 on that.
Dem, if you look at it, there is definitely no place for TF201 in the pad line up. 3 of them overlap each other too much.
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You have my $5 on that.
Dem, if you look at it, there is definitely no place for TF201 in the pad line up. 3 of them overlap each other too much.
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I do agree, the devices are spec similar. BUT at least its more of a major difference compared to Samsung lineup of tablets. they have all different lineup and spec similar. except for one thing, all their stuff is highly overpriced. at least Asus has a more reasonable priceline.
I can see prime ending around next winter or so. but by then that's the natural cycle of tablets ending anyways. Tf-700 has already been stated to not release till the end of the year. check the letter from Asus VP of something thread. so that gives prime plenty of time to still sell. by the time tf-700 finally comes out, it'll be the natural ending cycle for prime anyways. that's how technology is.
with the specs of the prime, it still has a place that fits in the lineup. regardless what some may believe. then you have the Asus built Google nexus tegra3 7in. tablet said to come out. ill say prime won't be discontinued anytime soon. for any product, there always come a time down the road when its discontinued. Wait till the announcement is released then tell me again does it make sense that they will discontinue the prime.
lets say they do discontinue it soon, so what..lol. it won't stop my Prime from functioning or performing great. it won't stop the major developement we already have for it. it still won't stop up getting updates, at least for a good while. So prime owners good either way. they already discontinuing the tf-101 less than a year from being released. to have it replaced by 300 model. tf-101 model just got ICS so it's still receiving support. Discontinued or not, Asus supports their products down the road. So I'm not worried anyways. I already plan on keeping my prime till Tegra4 releases at the end of the year. So once people finally able to buy infinity pad, Asus will announce the new Tegra4 powered Transformer pad..lmao. tegra4 is worth the wait if you already own a prime, IMO. nothing else announced to come out really grabs my interest. except to tegra3 powered Google nexus tablet built by Asus. that'll be so cheap ill get one anyways. most other new tablets coming out for android will be tegra3 powered anyways. there's like over 12 tablets announced and set to release eventually that will be tegra3 powered. they all are listed in another thread.
So ill take that bet also. if I lose, ill gladly admit I was wrong. but people make it seem like this will happen in the next month or something...lol. prime will be discontinued on its natural cycle ending date for tablets.
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I do agree, the devices are spec similar. BUT at least its more of a major difference compared to Samsung lineup of tablets. they have all different lineup and spec similar. except for one thing, all their stuff is highly overpriced. at least Asus has a more reasonable priceline.
I can see prime ending around next winter or so. but by then that's the natural cycle of tablets ending anyways. Tf-700 has already been stated to not release till the end of the year. check the letter from Asus VP of something thread. so that gives prime plenty of time to still sell. by the time tf-700 finally comes out, it'll be the natural ending cycle for prime anyways. that's how technology is.
with the specs of the prime, it still has a place that fits in the lineup. regardless what some may believe. then you have the Asus built Google nexus tegra3 7in. tablet said to come out. ill say prime won't be discontinued anytime soon. for any product, there always come a time down the road when its discontinued. Wait till the announcement is released then tell me again does it make sense that they will discontinue the prime.
lets say they do discontinue it soon, so what..lol. it won't stop my Prime from functioning or performing great. it won't stop the major developement we already have for it. it still won't stop up getting updates, at least for a good while. So prime owners good either way. they already discontinuing the tf-101 less than a year from being released. to have it replaced by 300 model. tf-101 model just got ICS so it's still receiving support. Discontinued or not, Asus supports their products down the road. So I'm not worried anyways. I already plan on keeping my prime till Tegra4 releases at the end of the year. So once people finally able to buy infinity pad, Asus will announce the new Tegra4 powered Transformer pad..lmao. tegra4 is worth the wait if you already own a prime, IMO. nothing else announced to come out really grabs my interest. except to tegra3 powered Google nexus tablet built by Asus. that'll be so cheap ill get one anyways. most other new tablets coming out for android will be tegra3 powered anyways. there's like over 12 tablets announced and set to release eventually that will be tegra3 powered. they all are listed in another thread.
So ill take that bet also. if I lose, ill gladly admit I was wrong. but people make it seem like this will happen in the next month or something...lol. prime will be discontinued on its natural cycle ending date for tablets.
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last i heard they were debating on tegra 3 vs something else for the nexus tablet. something changed?
also kindle fire 2 will be coming out around the end of the year with tegra 3. i guess we'll see how the battery life measures up. but if you are in the market at present for something with good battery life..the acer iconia a510 contains a 13 hr video playback battery life according to its specs.
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I would easily purchase the prime over those 2. here's why.
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Didnt you say a while back, that the 300 would have been your pick if it was available back then when the prime came out?
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last i heard they were debating on tegra 3 vs something else for the nexus tablet. something changed?
also kindle fire 2 will be coming out around the end of the year with tegra 3. i guess we'll see how the battery life measures up. but if you are in the market at present for something with good battery life..the acer iconia a510 contains a 13 hr video playback battery life according to its specs.
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hold up..First thing is first..lmfao. where in da world did you hear kindle fire2 will have tegra3 also? I've never seen any hint of that. could be possible but very shocking. I doubt they will use that chip as its out of their league..lol.
To your first statement, they were debating ln it at first. now this is all according to tech sites rumors and speculations. at first it was said to have tegra3. then we heard to cut down on price they were going to use a lesser spec chip. then just recently, all reports show them going back with tegra3 and they will city costs elsewhere, which I think is good idea. Google nexus tablet needs to be powerful and low priced. this is to look more enticing than kindle fire or nook. so the latest spec on nexus tablet is that it will be made by Asus and still will use tegra3.
I heard about that Acer battery life. we will have to see what the real battery life performance will be once it releases. Prime + Dock still has best battery life of all. 18+ hrs. estimated battery life combined. plenty of people came in this forum and said if you think Asus has problems, Acer is alot worse. it'll be like going from jumping into a small fire to jumping into a volcano..lol. so I'm very skeptical on Acer products based on what other Acer owners that passed through here have said.
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Didnt you say a while back, that the 300 would have been your pick if it was available back then when the prime came out?
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if it was before prime was ever announced or released. sure. its cheaper priced. but I have no regrets on my prime purchase at all. it has performed to well for me. I wouldn't downgrade or get rid of my prime to get a lower spec 300. I do love the new colors though. I think the whole Asus line of tablets will be good. it will just depend on how much you can afford or willing tl spend. not everyone wants to dish out $500-700 for a prime or infinity pad. only reason I spent this much on a prime because I bought it as a Christmas gift to myself. plus I know its more than powerful enough that I won't need another tablet for a long time. Tegra4 powered Asus tablet is what I'm waiting for next. till then, prime does everything I ask of it just fine. This really is a great tablet. I never use my Ipad anymore. Prime is soo sexy Sleek n lightweight. lol
So, I want a tablet. I bought my wife a nook color, but by then, my phone was already superior to it. I bought her an iPad 2, she loves it. It is pretty sweet. My 5 year old thought all tablets were nooks, now she calls them all iPads, she says,"what's a tablet?" I tell her it's a portable device that does everything a NetBook does but not as well. Enter the Transformer Prime. I've read the spec sheets, I've read the reviews, and I've read many of the threads here. I still believe, its the nicest Android tablet on the market today. I think the keyboard dock is just the absolute s#it, and for the most part, it seems like everyone that has one is ready to jump ship. But to where? The Transformer Prime S (T301)? I guess after owning a Tegra 2 phone, and feeling ready to upgrade at Christmas, I wonder if this summer won't hold other options. The Tegra 3 uses an A9 cortex, a dated architecture, the Galaxy Tab is due for a new rendition, Jelly Bean will be out soon, and many other factors make me wonder, is this a bad time to buy a Transformer Prime? So I'm asking those who own one, what are you looking at? If you needed to/could afford/whatever other hypothetical/ a second tablet (or 3rd or 4th, whatever) today, what would you get?
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You should wait for prime infinity. It seems to be better with the krait.... but if you want raw power go for the tegra 3. I have the 1 with t3 and its fantastic..
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Also the tf700(infinity) has better gps and wifi connection .. you should wait a few weeks to see how things play out... but if you want a tablet right now tf201 is your best option
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If money doesnt and some time dont matter wait for the Infinity Tab. Its the next best thing, but who knows when its actually available.
If money and time do matter there is nothing better than the prime. Its seriously awesome. Its the best package there is, combination of everything for the smallest price possible. So I'd say go for it. I'd never buy a tablet without a dock. There are sooo many times where i think ah just plug it in. And if its only when im lying on the couch to use it as a stand
You'll always be chasing technology if you sit & wait for what's just around the corner. The Prime is great. Buy one, use it & enjoy it now. Or wait for the better tegra 4/5/6/7/8, ipad 4/5/6 that'll be here tomorrow
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I own the Prime and I'm very happy with it, keyboard included, will buy the 700 when the T43 chip from Nvidia is out somewhere next year (Q3?) Tegra 4 at 2.0GHz sounds very sweet indeed.
Maybe you should wait? Or maybe buy the mighty Prime meanwhile?
Decide wisely!
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You'll always be chasing technology if you sit & wait for what's just around the corner. The Prime is great. Buy one, use it & enjoy it now. Or wait for the better tegra 4/5/6/7/8, ipad 4/5/6 that'll be here tomorrow
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Ain't that the truth. I've been chasing technology in the form of building my own PC's for years. If you wait you'll never get anything. You just gotta do it if it feels right.
BTW the Prime is a beast.
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You'll always be chasing technology if you sit & wait for what's just around the corner. The Prime is great. Buy one, use it & enjoy it now. Or wait for the better tegra 4/5/6/7/8, ipad 4/5/6 that'll be here tomorrow
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Don't be a ****. Also, the iPad will always be behind hardware wise I mean look at the iPad 3, I only wait for the next one so I can by the previous one (my wife likes apple, and my kids probably will too).
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Ain't that the truth. I've been chasing technology in the form of building my own PC's for years. If you wait you'll never get anything. You just gotta do it if it feels right.
BTW the Prime is a beast.
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Its true, but let's face it, you can upgrade your PC, if you build it right. A tablet, is more like a laptop you buy it and it looks pretty much the way its always gonna look.
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ray3andrei said:
You should wait for prime infinity. It seems to be better with the krait.... but if you want raw power go for the tegra 3. I have the 1 with t3 and its fantastic..
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So the prime infinity us going to have krait? Dual or quad core?
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So the prime infinity us going to have krait? Dual or quad core?
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The wifi-only version will have Tegra 3, the 4G version will have the S4.
Right, because Tegra doesn't support LTE...The benchmarks I've seen show the S4 out performing the Tegra even with only 2 cores, but rendering graphics is still better given the Tegra's better GPU. So, anyone know anything from the Samsung camp tablet-wise?
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So, I want a tablet. I bought my wife a nook color, but by then, my phone was already superior to it. I bought her an iPad 2, she loves it. It is pretty sweet. My 5 year old thought all tablets were nooks, now she calls them all iPads, she says,"what's a tablet?" I tell her it's a portable device that does everything a NetBook does but not as well. Enter the Transformer Prime. I've read the spec sheets, I've read the reviews, and I've read many of the threads here. I still believe, its the nicest Android tablet on the market today. I think the keyboard dock is just the absolute s#it, and for the most part, it seems like everyone that has one is ready to jump ship. But to where? The Transformer Prime S (T301)? I guess after owning a Tegra 2 phone, and feeling ready to upgrade at Christmas, I wonder if this summer won't hold other options. The Tegra 3 uses an A9 cortex, a dated architecture, the Galaxy Tab is due for a new rendition, Jelly Bean will be out soon, and many other factors make me wonder, is this a bad time to buy a Transformer Prime? So I'm asking those who own one, what are you looking at? If you needed to/could afford/whatever other hypothetical/ a second tablet (or 3rd or 4th, whatever) today, what would you get?
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So ... you don't want the Transformer Prime and are asking in the Transformer Prime forum for what tablet to buy
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So ... you don't want the Transformer Prime and are asking in the Transformer Prime forum for what tablet to buy
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No, he might want a prime, but he's not certain, and is asking for opinions to help him come to a decision.
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No, he might want a prime, but he's not certain, and is asking for opinions to help him come to a decision.
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exactly this.
im in the same situation, as i bet many others are, not sure wether to get a prime now, or wait 1/2/3/4 weeks/months for the Infinity
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No. I totally want the prime, what I don't want is buyers' remorse. But I really just wanted a discussion with owners, how they are feeling on the eve of their purchase becoming "outdated".
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No. I totally want the prime, what I don't want is buyers' remorse. But I really just wanted a discussion with owners, how they are feeling on the eve of their purchase becoming "outdated".
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outdated? maybe on someone else's terms/point of view.
my prime is better than some machines i use at my place, and they still work as they are intended too. meaning, just get the device if you like it. devices are all becoming more powerful, it's an always-accelerating process until it hits a wall that's too high to jump.. like it happened to desktops. we had to use more cores. one core cpus evolution stopped @P4/Athlon. same with mobile devices. we're using more cores. chips are getting smaller yes, and that allows for... more cores.
now i think ok, so i've got enough power on a tablet..how about linux on a tablet? for that i would need a keyboard. waaaait.. asus transformer prime, powerful specs+dock/qwerty kb+touchpad.. with an "2" batteries.. got to get my hands on that!
edit: of course, i also read the threads around here before buying it, but i thought that i should just go for it, because i liked the device. plus, nvidia has been a good supporter for linux software, but i won't go into further details into that (the nvidia relation with linux os on the desktops). the first i got the tablet didn't charge, dock was fine. returned it, got a new one. wifi seemed nice (5/10 dBm less than my nexus prime ), gps too (13 locks/14in view on my balcony, inside the house forget it), so i kept it.
so i did and never looked back. now, i've got to, my display has light-bleed issue, but hey, i've kept it more than 15days untouched , the issue appeared, i'm entitled by warranty terms to have my device repaired. if they cannot, i'll will ask for a replacement. if not available, a refund.
i love it.
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I bought the Prime cause I wanted a device that would last at least 5 years. And from what I had seen about the specs the prime fit the bill. Down side is all the problems poor wifi unstable browser Bluetooth unstable if using wifi. But even so out of the box on HC it was awesome until I upgraded to ICS Gps went to **** and wifi started to flake out. Update to .15 killed my TP had to keep it plugged in so the battery would not die sudden restarts the next update fixed the battery drain. Even so when they get the ICS stable it will be a tablet that lasts. With the keyboard station it gets 12 hours battery live for me. I was able to get close to the listed 18 hours but that was with it set up to preserve the battery. Works good for movies but not for games and browsing the web.
So even though it has problems, I would say grab one. Asus has been so far acting in good faith even though at times it may seem otherwise. If you are getting one make sure it is a C3 or C4 serial number avoid the C0,C1,C2 ones due to the problems I have listed and others have posted here.
I picked up my TF201 after looking around for a while and thinking "What is cost-effective, able to play games, do office work, and be a source of entertainment" and there I have the Prime....
Thank you to all who participated, that's all I really wanted, to start a conversation. I learned a lot here, I have decided to and see wait is around the corner. I thank you all for a great and lively discussion.
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I got word today from a source. Not sure if it is really reliable, but it certainly sounds like Asus to me.
Asus has NO plans at all to release their 700 model until winter/Christmas holidays so they can reap in the big sales. Of course they had a couple at the electronics show, but that was just a prototype model and Asus wanted to make some headlines to boost sales. This is why they are very quiet about release time during the electronics show because they didn't want to tell anyone it would be months and months away. Bad publicity if they were to do that. It does kind of make sense a little. They completely failed on the release of their TF201 which never made Christmas/winter holiday and has been difficult to buy ever since. Asus just doesn't want that many TF201's out there, hence the very slow production rate. It was difficult to buy an TF201 3 months even after it came out. That should tell you something. I was told they released the 300 model just to be available for the potential customer's that didn't want all the issues and problems with the TF201. This is why they are almost identical. What to believe? Who knows. I do believe we won't see the TF700 until late, late this year. It does make a little sense to me and I never did understand why the TF201 was so hard to get 3 months after release.
some of it makes sense, alot doesn't. if Asus didn't want to sell prime, they could've easily stopped producing and stopped selling them. its hard for some people to get a hold of. for others its easy. Prime is still being sold. The 300 wasn't released to mask problems of prime. they always had this 3 tablet lineup in mind. I agree the 700 won't be out anytime soon, at least here in U.S.
take everything with a grain of salt. for the simple fact that people were speculating prime being discontinued only a week or 2 after release, and here we are over 6months later and its still available and being sold says alot. people working at Bestbuy here said they have plenty of them and shipments still coming in. it would probably be better if Asus were to wait to the holidays to release, they should release it with new android jellybean firmware and possibly a newer tegra3 chip. Last thing Asus needs to do is to rush a product again. they will release once they feel confident in the best timing for it.
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so they can reap in the big sales.
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And the couple of hundred thousand they could sell before that would somehow prevent them from selling them for the holidays? If people are buying tablets now regardless of brand their off the market for the holidays anyway.
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I got word today from a source. Not sure if it is really reliable, but it certainly sounds like Asus to me.
Asus has NO plans at all to release their 700 model until winter/Christmas holidays so they can reap in the big sales. Of course they had a couple at the electronics show, ....
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Engadget are reporting that the Asus Transformer Pad Infinity has hit the FCC.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/21/asus-transformer-pad-infinity-series-hits-the-fcc/
Wouldn't Asus wait a bit before applying for FCC approval if Christmas was the release date in NA? What about back to school/college market in August?
The cheaper 300 is aimed for students and back to school market.
The tf201 seems extremely hard to get, even at this point I live in NL and very few shops have it In stock, and if they have it they have very few, luckly I got one of the last ones, I sent it back to Asus because the camera didn't work , 3 weeks in not a word from them, and tbh releasing the tf700t in winter is kind of bad, the iconia tab a700 is around the corner, so I may just get that instead
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Ya it makes more sense to me to release it sooner than later, look at the playbook, they waited too long with their dual core tablet and gave samsung and HTC a chance to catch up. If RIM had released the playbook before christmas like they should have they would have stolen a lot of sales from sammy and HTC.
As long as they can get a decent supply down i see no reason for Asus to wait. Just as long as they take control of their QC issues.
Later would definitely be bad news, granted the 600 nit screen is a selling point for a lot of people, but knowing that the a700 isn't going to have the lightbleed problems AsusQC has missed out on allot of the time may be what pushes me that way. I can handle the heat with a case. You'd think Asus would want that tablet out sooner than later, because the note10.1 will appeal to more of the mass public as well.
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The tf201 seems extremely hard to get, even at this point I live in NL and very few shops have it In stock, and if they have it they have very few, luckly I got one of the last ones, I sent it back to Asus because the camera didn't work , 3 weeks in not a word from them, and tbh releasing the tf700t in winter is kind of bad, the iconia tab a700 is around the corner, so I may just get that instead
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Excellent point, if the problems that the prime has are not completely taken care of I will have to consider other tab makers should I choose to update. The screen and form factor kept me with Asus so far, but the reboots on a machine that's 500+ dollars is unacceptable at this point for any reason. And I'm sure the infinity will retail for more, so it might be in the same price range as a W8 tab. Point is if I'm dropping over half a grand at the very least the basic functions better be flawless.
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I got word today from a source. Not sure if it is really reliable, but it certainly sounds like Asus to me.
Asus has NO plans at all to release their 700 model until winter/Christmas holidays so they can reap in the big sales. Of course they had a couple at the electronics show, but that was just a prototype model and Asus wanted to make some headlines to boost sales. This is why they are very quiet about release time during the electronics show because they didn't want to tell anyone it would be months and months away. Bad publicity if they were to do that. It does kind of make sense a little. They completely failed on the release of their TF201 which never made Christmas/winter holiday and has been difficult to buy ever since. Asus just doesn't want that many TF201's out there, hence the very slow production rate. It was difficult to buy an TF201 3 months even after it came out. That should tell you something. I was told they released the 300 model just to be available for the potential customer's that didn't want all the issues and problems with the TF201. This is why they are almost identical. What to believe? Who knows. I do believe we won't see the TF700 until late, late this year. It does make a little sense to me and I never did understand why the TF201 was so hard to get 3 months after release.
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Hmm, a lot of it doesn't make sense.
1.) Releasing a product for Christmas is traditionally one of the worst time of the year to launch a new product.
2.) Acer A700, product with similar spec to Asus Infinity 700 just went through FCC....
3.) Even if Infinity 700 gets released with Jelly Bean, I doubt it'll be the flagship Jelly Bean tablet (unless the rumored 7 in. Google/Asus tablet is scrapped)... And by releasing late in the yr for "Christmas"... Asus is looking at competition from W8 tablets, possible Apple 7in. variant iPad .. & already released Android tablets with very similar spec with the possibility of discounted price.
4.) Finally, showing off Infinity Pad 700 as prototype pissed off Prime owners & it sets up for major failure if the initial plan was to launch the product a full year later (a year worth of PR can have very negative effect).
The only possibility based on this rumor is...
1.) Tegra 3 version of Infinity 700 is scrapped for US at least..
2.) Asus will release S4 dual-core 3g/4g LTE version at the end of the year through US carriers... this sort of makes sense.
Actually, the Infinity 700 just went through the FCC as well. There's no way they did that 6 months ahead of time.
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I got word today from a source. Not sure if it is really reliable, but it certainly sounds like Asus to me.
Asus has NO plans at all to release their 700 model until winter/Christmas holidays so they can reap in the big sales. Of course they had a couple at the electronics show, but that was just a prototype model and Asus wanted to make some headlines to boost sales. This is why they are very quiet about release time during the electronics show because they didn't want to tell anyone it would be months and months away. Bad publicity if they were to do that. It does kind of make sense a little. They completely failed on the release of their TF201 which never made Christmas/winter holiday and has been difficult to buy ever since. Asus just doesn't want that many TF201's out there, hence the very slow production rate. It was difficult to buy an TF201 3 months even after it came out. That should tell you something. I was told they released the 300 model just to be available for the potential customer's that didn't want all the issues and problems with the TF201. This is why they are almost identical. What to believe? Who knows. I do believe we won't see the TF700 until late, late this year. It does make a little sense to me and I never did understand why the TF201 was so hard to get 3 months after release.
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The TF700 will be released by the end of Q2, in fact it just passed FCC approval. As to the other points, your source is severely messed up.
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Actually, the Infinity 700 just went through the FCC as well. There's no way they did that 6 months ahead of time.
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That's basically what I said in an earlier post.
Thanks to Gary for confirming a late Q2 release. I hope this is all of NA and not just a USA release.
Who still skeptical now? Lol
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The TF700 will be released by the end of Q2, in fact it just passed FCC approval. As to the other points, your source is severely messed up.
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Thanks for the clarfication. it was like I said before. [email protected] sources being severely messed up.
to the doubters lol
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That's basically what I said in an earlier post.
Thanks to Gary for confirming a late Q2 release. I hope this is all of NA and not just a USA release.
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Its for overseas first, I believe. Na release will follow afterwards. this can change though. they call the shots. could surprise everyone and release all at once.
I'm ok with the Prime right now.They just need to fix these dang browser issues. Tegra 3 (Quad Core) should be just as fast a laptop..if not faster at browsing web pages.But the next update better be the answer I've been waiting on or it's hello W8 tablet,Samsung tablet. They actually have 2 speakers on their new budget tablet facing the user (brilliant). Yet the TF700 will still have the same design as the TF201 with the speaker facing away from the user which makes you have to put your hand near it to hear it good. Asus needs to take some damn notes on design for 1 thing !!
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I hope this is all of NA and not just a USA release.
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The TF700 will be released by the end of Q2, in fact it just passed FCC approval. As to the other points, your source is severely messed up.
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Thank you Gary! Your confirmation will be appreciated by many here just itching to get their hands on this table....myself included
Already pre-ordered the Infinity 64GB + Dock in Norway, so I'm glad to see it's confirmed for Q2.
To put it this way, if the Infinity delays to Q3 or Q4, I will most likely buy a Win8-tablet instead. And I'm pretty sure I'm not alone with those thoughts
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Ya it makes more sense to me to release it sooner than later, look at the playbook, they waited too long with their dual core tablet and gave samsung and HTC a chance to catch up. If RIM had released the playbook before christmas like they should have they would have stolen a lot of sales from sammy and HTC.
As long as they can get a decent supply down i see no reason for Asus to wait. Just as long as they take control of their QC issues.
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People are buying new Primes today with QC issues.
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The TF700 will be released by the end of Q2, in fact it just passed FCC approval. As to the other points, your source is severely messed up.
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Apparently my source is "messed up", so lets move on to an more important issue.
Assuming the TF700 will be about $600-$700 (it is a step up from the Prime) can you confirm there finally will be quality control on these products and all the features work like intended? I've had 5 Prime tablets. All with QC issues. If I would ever consider buying another Asus product again I'd like to hear from the source itself. If not, I'll just make a half mortgage payment.
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assuming the tf700 will be about $600-$700 (it is a step up from the prime) can you confirm there finally will be quality control on these products and all the features work like intended? I've had 5 prime tablets. All with qc issues. If i would ever consider buying another asus product again i'd like to hear from the source itself. If not, i'll just make a half mortgage payment.
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I do like my Prime very much, don't love it but like it. I'm hoping Asus would give Prime owners a discount or rebate or something so we can purchase the Infinity (whats after Infinity for the next tablet? Infinity plus 1?) I'm sure there will be quiet a few Primes on Ebay and Craigslist mine included.
I'm not a troll, don't go down that track...
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I do like my Prime very much, don't love it but like it. I'm hoping Asus would give Prime owners a discount or rebate or something so we can purchase the Infinity (whats after Infinity for the next tablet? Infinity plus 1?) I'm sure there will be quiet a few Primes on Ebay and Craigslist mine included.
I'm not a troll, don't go down that track...
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Just forget about it.
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I do like my Prime very much, don't love it but like it. I'm hoping Asus would give Prime owners a discount or rebate or something so we can purchase the Infinity (whats after Infinity for the next tablet? Infinity plus 1?) I'm sure there will be quiet a few Primes on Ebay and Craigslist mine included.
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Why would you want a tablet with the same problems? From the Infinity benchmark, it seems the I/O is just as poor on it as the Prime.
If you are not happy with the Prime, I doubt the Infinity will make you feel any better about it.
Why buy another Asus product? After reading a few threads the other day i feel that is a general consenous. The true question is with the ever so changing tech in our world. You are willing to buy another Asus tablet? Me personally im not sure. Mine isnt bad but i deff have my quirks.
No chance.
Heh. In a perfect world...
However, in a perfect world, the Prime wouldn't be as screwy as it is. I'm personally done with their products.
Prime isnt perfect, but its still the best Tablets for my needs Its a complete laptop replacement for me.
The infinity is cool but the resolution isnt an issue for me and wifi is perfect for my needs. GPS was never needed in my situation.
Show me Tablet that offers the same or more functionality as the prime/infinity for the same price?
Me too. I'm done with them. I was having problems with their mobo that lasted a year; RMAed it and got sent a replacement with 2 dead RAM slot; special RMAed that, my replacement was late and 1 dead RAM slot and BIOS issue. deciding whether I wanna try again. Essentially i believe they sent me un-"fixed" mobo that other people sent in. I mean QA that crap. It's not that hard to test. Sorry I digressed. But between that and the Prime fiasco, they lost me. The sad thing is they USED TO BE really good b/c years ago I didn't have a problem.
Ain't gonna happen.
Sorry, there is no Santa Claus. :crying:
Well what other options are there? please don't say Toshiba or worse Apple, we are here because we don't want to be dictated too from Apple. Maybe Samsung has something up their sleeve? Hoping Google I/O will have something for us to get excited about.
I'll be getting a Samsung next
There's nothing Asus can do at this point to make me a return customer. Nvidia can go f¥ck themselves too they're the real problem
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Its not happening. I already checked, several times actually. no upgrades, no discounts, no deals, no nothing.
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Well what other options are there? please don't say Toshiba or worse Apple, we are here because we don't want to be dictated too from Apple. Maybe Samsung has something up their sleeve? Hoping Google I/O will have something for us to get excited about.
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Galaxy Note 10.1 my friend, Galaxy Note 10.1.
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Its not happening. I already checked, several times actually. no upgrades, no discounts, no deals, no nothing.
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I for one think you deserve a "free" Infinity for all the dmg control & marketing you do for Asus. Of course, if you do receive one.. I hope you don't tease everyone of the privilege you are receiving.... no matter how "daring" e.mote is. =P
Well stated. Let Gary know..lol
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I for one think you deserve a "free" Infinity for all the dmg control & marketing you do for Asus. Of course, if you do receive one.. I hope you don't tease everyone of the privilege you are receiving.... no matter how "daring" e.mote is. =P
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I know right..lol thanks...if I did I wouldn't tease. id more then likely take requests on testing things people would want to know.
Maybe if IM lucky they would look out for me like that but I wouldn't hold my breathe on it. Lol
Send Gary a pm or email saying what you said here
By tease ... I meant... Not revealing any info on you receiving one. This forum isn't going to take that well if you received one for free...
Thus, if you do receive one... ANY info. (even if you wanted to do testing for others) on it should be disclosed & keep it personal to yourself.
I'll pass, only motherboards from ASUS from here on out. It's too bad they're making the nexus tab.
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Maybe Samsung has something up their sleeve?
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I have to say: Forget Samsung. I've got a S+, the device itself is good, but Samsung's support is the worst I've ever seen. You believe Asus is a bad company? They shipped out free GPS-dongles for at least *some* customers and they really seem to try to sort issues out (although they obviously fail).
Now to my experience with Samsung: The S+ is offered by Amazon since the 1st July '11, what has Samsung done since then? They added more bloatware to their ROM and managed to decrease the performance. I also bought the S+, because I thought it would get an Update to ICS, and I was not alone with that opinion. Well, Samsung has not updated to ICS, because our device "can't handle it", instead they released a "Value Pack", which adds the look of ICS. Arco ported ICS9 to the S+ and it runs better than all GB versions from Samsung. And remember, Samsung also "wants" you to flash through Kies.
If you want something that works out-of-the-box, then pick everything but Samsung.
My experience with Asus is definetley better than with Samsung.
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By tease ... I meant... Not revealing any info on you receiving one. This forum isn't going to take that well if you received one for free...
Thus, if you do receive one... ANY info. (even if you wanted to do testing for others) on it should be disclosed & keep it personal to yourself.
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point taken. honestly, IM interested in their win8 talerts now. I can't imagine infinity pad experience being much different than prime. aside from higher resolution screen. that transformer book or 600 or 800 is what I really want. I wouldn't mind getting back into windows scene again.
Theres a ton of tablets about to drop soon. font know if its a good idea to get one of these new ones or wait till 2013. by then these new tablets will have newer upgraded processors. Android or win8 with tegra4 is what IM really waiting for. even quad core exynos would be good. ibe seen some articles stating new T3+ will likely be used in new tablets and not just phones. I see nvidia milking tegra3 or T3+ till tegra4 is ready. I think tegra4 might pop up end of q1 2013 or q2 if we lucky.
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point taken. honestly, IM interested in their win8 talerts now. I can't imagine infinity pad experience being much different than prime. aside from higher resolution screen. that transformer book or 600 or 800 is what I really want. I wouldn't mind getting back into windows scene again.
Theres a ton of tablets about to drop soon. font know if its a good idea to get one of these new ones or wait till 2013. by then these new tablets will have newer upgraded processors. Android or win8 with tegra4 is what IM really waiting for. even quad core exynos would be good. ibe seen some articles stating new T3+ will likely be used in new tablets and not just phones. I see nvidia milking tegra3 or T3+ till tegra4 is ready. I think tegra4 might pop up end of q1 2013 or q2 if we lucky.
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You do realize that Tegra 3+ and even Tegra 4 (grey) is based on A9 right? Which .. like you said.. is basically milking Tegra 3 & nothing more... without significant improvement... except.. drop to 28nm, increase clock speed & increase GPU core to make it sound like it is vast improvement. All the issues & bottlenecks being found in Tegra 3 will persist as it shares the same architecture.
Tegra 4 (wayne).. if it is even Tegra 4 anymore .... most likely will be delayed even further to late 2013.
Jake Y. Tweet said:
I have to say: Forget Samsung. I've got a S+, the device itself is good, but Samsung's support is the worst I've ever seen. You believe Asus is a bad company? They shipped out free GPS-dongles for at least *some* customers and they really seem to try to sort issues out (although they obviously fail).
Now to my experience with Samsung: The S+ is offered by Amazon since the 1st July '11, what has Samsung done since then? They added more bloatware to their ROM and managed to decrease the performance. I also bought the S+, because I thought it would get an Update to ICS, and I was not alone with that opinion. Well, Samsung has not updated to ICS, because our device "can't handle it", instead they released a "Value Pack", which adds the look of ICS. Arco ported ICS9 to the S+ and it runs better than all GB versions from Samsung. And remember, Samsung also "wants" you to flash through Kies.
If you want something that works out-of-the-box, then pick everything but Samsung.
My experience with Asus is definetley better than with Samsung.
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You do realize you are comparing Smartphone support to Tablet support. Can't compare the two...
Smartphone.. due to "carrier" restrictions.. have pathetic support throughout the whole sector. Even the "Nexus" devices have craptastic support in s/w....
Also, Samsung devices are released with unlocked bootloader & nvflash....
Asus devices aren't....