I'm not gonna lie, Once an ARM release for Windows 8 gets released, I will put it on the Prime ASAP. Why?
I have been following the Build of Windows 8 for some time. I must admit, I am whole-heartily impressed at the awesome features that are coming. The developer tools that Microsoft released will also make it easy for developers to port their apps to x86 and ARM. The marketplace will open up a store that half a billion people could potentially look at.
Windows is the behemoth of the computing age and they are charging directly into mobile computing. I choose Windows over Android because I want more than what Android has to offer.
I want good browsers, application support, enterprise support, and a desktop OS with Metro integration.
If you want to see why I am excited for Windows 8, don't listen to me!
Watch the first Keynote and you will be wowed at what's coming:
http://channel9.msdn.com/events/BUILD/BUILD2011/KEY-0001
Also, here is the Build Blog, where Microsoft is actually taking advice on creating Windows 8.
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/
I hope everyone is as excited as I am for what's coming. Remember this: Even if you hate Windows-everything, you should be excited for it. Windows 8 will force Android and iOS to really push harder in creating a full-fledged mobile OS.
The Prime is the perfect tablet for both Android, and Windows 8.
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I'm not gonna lie, Once an ARM release for Windows 8 gets released, I will put it on the Prime ASAP. Why?
I have been following the Build of Windows 8 for some time. I must admit, I am whole-heartily impressed at the awesome features that are coming. The developer tools that Microsoft released will also make it easy for developers to port their apps to x86 and ARM. The marketplace will open up a store that half a billion people could potentially look at.
Windows is the behemoth of the computing age and they are charging directly into mobile computing. I choose Windows over Android because I want more than what Android has to offer.
I want good browsers, application support, enterprise support, and a desktop OS with Metro integration.
If you want to see why I am excited for Windows 8, don't listen to me!
Watch the first Keynote and you will be wowed at what's coming:
http://channel9.msdn.com/events/BUILD/BUILD2011/KEY-0001
Also, here is the Build Blog, where Microsoft is actually taking advice on creating Windows 8.
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/
I hope everyone is as excited as I am for what's coming. Remember this: Even if you hate Windows-everything, you should be excited for it. Windows 8 will force Android and iOS to really push harder in creating a full-fledged mobile OS.
The Prime is the perfect tablet for both Android, and Windows 8.
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how much is it going to cost to buy windows 8 for the transformer? if its anything like the current windows, you will have to pay for upgrade and all that.
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how much is it going to cost to buy windows 8 for the transformer? if its anything like the current windows, you will have to pay for upgrade and all that.
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That's a good question. Just like every other Windows release out there, if you are too poor; Piracy is just too easy. But I don't think I will resort to that. Something I have noticed is the lack of mentioning toward different versions of Windows 8. If feels as if there will be the consumer, server edition, and ARM edition(?).
I don't know.
Why don't you just wait and get a Windows tablet, if you want a Windows tablet?
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Why don't you just wait and get a Windows tablet, if you want a Windows tablet?
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Because why wait? Windows 8 works great on the Tegra 3 chip! 1GB of RAM is plenty as Windows 8 uses less memory than Windows 7. Also, I love the Transformer. I'm sure Asus will release the Prime for Windows variant, but I love Android as well.
In my opinion Ms has missed the train and that they did it twice,the first one being when they left the WM unsupported and went to WP7 there by giving up the lead to the emreging OSs with a very big margin,and now another grave mistake will be if x86 apps will not run on the ARM version,which will need a couple of years to develop new ones,well I can imagine the IOS and android with there aliready big advantage where will they be by than!!.
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In my opinion Ms has missed the train and that they did it twice,the first one being when they left the WM unsupported and went to WP7 there by giving up the lead to the emreging OSs with a very big margin,and now another grave mistake will be if x86 apps will not run on the ARM version,which will need a couple of years to develop new ones,well I can imagine the IOS and android with there aliready big advantage where will they be by than!!.
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Microsoft is making a painful transition. They are working hard at porting their full Windows OS onto ARM. I believe they see that ARM architecture will be the future of low-power, high performance computing. They will certainly support Windows 8, but what they will struggle with is convincing all x86 developers supporting the Windows platform to port their applications over to ARM as well. It is not Microsoft's fault that ARM will not run x86 applications; it is a necessity and Microsoft cannot afford to wait much longer.
ive actually been thinking about this. i love android and wouldn't replace it on the prime for the world but would it be possible without breaking some laws? i remember when the hd2 got wp7 there was a few threads in the evo forum saying that since we have the same hardware can we get it to. and apparently it violated "warez" or something so we couldn't. so... if this does come to the prime then it would be sweet but idk if it ever will... (p.s. i could be wrong so if anyone has anything to correct me on then please feel free)
I'm definitely interested in dual booting later.. hopefully win installation will be viable in some way.
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ive actually been thinking about this. i love android and wouldn't replace it on the prime for the world but would it be possible without breaking some laws? i remember when the hd2 got wp7 there was a few threads in the evo forum saying that since we have the same hardware can we get it to. and apparently it violated "warez" or something so we couldn't. so... if this does come to the prime then it would be sweet but idk if it ever will... (p.s. i could be wrong so if anyone has anything to correct me on then please feel free)
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I could be wrong about this, but I don't think it's the same case. WP7 is proprietary to Microsoft, which doesn't distribute it freely like Google does with Android. I also don't think consumers can buy a license for WP7 to put on any device, so if the phone doesn't come with it natively, it would be illegal to put it on a non-WP7 phone.
Windows 8, on the other hand, is purchasable buy consumers, so one could legally buy it and put it on whatever device they chose to.
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I could be wrong about this, but I don't think it's the same case. WP7 is proprietary to Microsoft, which doesn't distribute it freely like Google does with Android. I also don't think consumers can buy a license for WP7 to put on any device, so if the phone doesn't come with it natively, it would be illegal to put it on a non-WP7 phone.
Windows 8, on the other hand, is purchasable buy consumers, so one could legally buy it and put it on whatever device they chose to.
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While i fail to see why you would WANT Windows 8, keep in mind that Microsoft may very well not release a purchasable version of Windows 8 ARM to consumers.
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While i fail to see why you would WANT Windows 8, keep in mind that Microsoft may very well not release a purchasable version of Windows 8 ARM to consumers.
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Yes, that's a very good point. But still, it was a legitimate answer to the question posed. But you're right that we shouldn't assume that Windows 8 will be purchasable.
Good luck on installing win8 on the transformer. My guess is that it wont be possible without heavy developer effort.
Just wait for the official win8 transformer and install android on it (dual boot):way easier i think
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Tempie007 said:
Good luck on installing win8 on the transformer. My guess is that it wont be possible without heavy developer effort.
Just wait for the official win8 transformer and install android on it (dual boot):way easier i think
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Perhaps. Tegra 3 'Kal-El' is the flagship processor for Windows 8 ARM. I think installing Windows on the Prime will be quite easy as its hardware matches what Microsoft has been demonstrating. I think the hardest thing would be getting the Keyboard Dock functioning.
Tempie007 said:
Good luck on installing win8 on the transformer. My guess is that it wont be possible without heavy developer effort.
Just wait for the official win8 transformer and install android on it (dual boot):way easier i think
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Agree. Unbelievably "heavy developer effort"... add the fact that WinRT on ARM does NOT include the Win8 Desktop stack.
Consider the Microsoft developer effort to:
(1) Port Office and any(all) other applications to WinRT so it can be used on ARM - nothing Win7 nor WP7 will directly port to WinRT except maybe hello world and trivial apps. Without Office on the ARM tablet who cares.
(2) Port WinRT to the Windows Phone replacing WP7.
(3) Perform a COMPLETE UX rewrite of any required applications to Metro touch to run under WinRT on ARM.
(4) Build, support, maintain developer tools for all the above.
(5) A million other things.
Unless Microsoft has infinite resources, I do NOT think they will be competitive with Android nor Apple for years (if ever) in the mobile space. This comment usually causes Microsoft zealots much discomfort and denial.
Without Office-Touch Version on WinRT the WinRT platform will FAIL worse than WP7 is failing now. Office on Windows 7 touch is an abortion, e.g. Samsung XE700t1a with Windows 7. It is a catch-22 for Microsoft to make WinRT Office run on ARM platform because that may not generate the *required* Windows 8 Ultimate Home Premium Standard Business Suite Server license revenues.
So, today, Microsoft has not seriously accomplished anything competitive in the mobile spaces. In the future, there is infinite work to accomplish any logical road map but no road map has been announced. The Windows 8 Desktop and WinRT bits from BUILD (and after) are pre-Alpha stage.
In the meantime, Android merged tablet & phone OS to version 4.0, and Apple is also busy with hundreds of million mobile phone and tablet customers.
Waiting for Microsoft to finish something is a great suggestion, but version 1.0 is a huge risk too. Maybe waiting until version 3 of the Microsoft phone and tablet? LOL
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Perhaps. Tegra 3 'Kal-El' is the flagship processor for Windows 8 ARM. I think installing Windows on the Prime will be quite easy as its hardware matches what Microsoft has been demonstrating. I think the hardest thing would be getting the Keyboard Dock functioning.
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Nope, everything regarding drivers must be written, kernel, sound, video, wifi, 3G if data version...one tegra 3 machine does not mean another loads. They must be done for each machine. Oh, I forgot touchscreen also. You just can't load it..it must be developed for it.
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Nope, everything regarding drivers must be written, kernel, sound, video, wifi, 3G if data version...one tegra 3 machine does not mean another loads. They must be done for each machine. Oh, I forgot touchscreen also. You just can't load it..it must be developed for it.
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Yes. Windows 8 would most likely be an OEM-only OS. HOWEVER, The Eee Pad Transformer series will most likely have Windows 8 variants making this hell of a lot easier.
Not gonna like, the metro UI and thus WP7 can go die in a fire, and I mean a REALLY DEADLY one! The blocky TILE interface, with no respect for the ability to get lost in menu's/programs... really sad... I stopped helping friends/family with their WP7 devices after the second week they got them... thankfully most are on Android / Blackberry now... my hate is for the Metro UI, not necessarily the underlying CORE for Win8 and WP7 (the only hate that surpasses that which I have for the MetroUI is the iPhone OS/Software, because the iPhone 4/4S hardware is pretty premo)
However, to give you a counter balance for my above rant, I am currently running the Windows 8 Developer Preview on my desktop, as my ABSOLUTE HATE for Metro UI, it is indeed disabled, and no, that's NOT all there is to see in the Win8DP!
Besides MetroPOS, I love the rest of what they have done with Win8, AND to that effect I WILL be looking forward to DUAL booting (if possible), BUT only if some of the main programs I use see an ARM port since there will be no x86 emulation or back porting! Else the only thing that would even mildly interest me in Dual Booting is the bragging rights to say I have a desktop/laptop OS on a tablet...
So, to sum it up!:
Love Win8
Love DualBooting
Love Android
Love Transformer Prime
Love thought of Win8/Programs running on tablet device
HATE METROPOS (er i mean UI...)
i was thinking more on the line of having both android and windows 8 on the transformer with a dual boot option and when u boot up u pick ur poison
Further to my previous comment, I have been thinking about this, and I think if the opportunity to Dual-Boot came along, I would go for it.
Purely for a full Microsoft Office suite on the Tablet. Then I could leave my laptop at home and take my tablet only!
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I'm really excited about the Prime, but I'm reluctant to buy with Windows 8 closing. I like Android but I want it to be for more than just entertainment, I want to use it for a bit of work as well. I know Windows lets me do this because it's windows. So do you think I should wait for a W8 transformer or stick with ICS? Are there/will there be any good productivity apps coming? Also does anyone know if it will be released in the first or second half of next year? If its the second I might just get the TP and upgrade if W8 is worth it.
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I'm really excited about the Prime, but I'm reluctant to buy with Windows 8 closing. I like Android but I want it to be for more than just entertainment, I want to use it for a bit of work as well. I know Windows lets me do this because it's windows. So do you think I should wait for a W8 transformer or stick with ICS? Are there/will there be any good productivity apps coming? Also does anyone know if it will be released in the first or second half of next year? If its the second I might just get the TP and upgrade if W8 is worth it.
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win8 tablets won't be out before the middle of next year, and the rumor is win8 arm based tablets won't be out until 2013 even.
personally i'm buying the prime now and then i'll evaluate which win8 tablet i want to get (x86 or arm) and buy that when i find one i like.
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I'm really excited about the Prime, but I'm reluctant to buy with Windows 8 closing. I like Android but I want it to be for more than just entertainment, I want to use it for a bit of work as well. I know Windows lets me do this because it's windows. So do you think I should wait for a W8 transformer or stick with ICS? Are there/will there be any good productivity apps coming? Also does anyone know if it will be released in the first or second half of next year? If its the second I might just get the TP and upgrade if W8 is worth it.
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A word of caution. Windows just ain't going to be Windows anymore. Windows 8 on an ARM tablet is not going to run most Windows applications. It'll only run new Windows 8 Metro applications. So you will be buying into a brand new platform with not very many applications to start with (though devs do have a preview platform and are working on apps already).
If you want the full Windows 8 experience, you'll still need a tablet with an x86 processor. x86 tablets are available now, but pretty chunky and heavy. But MSI's Windows tablets with new AMD processors look good for a Windows tablet. Maybe by next Summer/Fall some of those x86 tablets can slim down a bit more and be more consumer friendly.
Unless you really don't want a tablet right now, I'd not wait for Windows 8. Get what you want now.
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A word of caution. Windows just ain't going to be Windows anymore. Windows 8 on an ARM tablet is not going to run most Windows applications. It'll only run new Windows 8 Metro applications. So you will be buying into a brand new platform with not very many applications to start with (though devs do have a preview platform and are working on apps already).
If you want the full Windows 8 experience, you'll still need a tablet with an x86 processor. x86 tablets are available now, but pretty chunky and heavy. But MSI's Windows tablets with new AMD processors look good for a Windows tablet. Maybe by next Summer/Fall some of those x86 tablets can slim down a bit more and be more consumer friendly.
Unless you really don't want a tablet right now, I'd not wait for Windows 8. Get what you want now.
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Ahhh yeah I forgot about that. Thanks for the help, I'll stick with the prime then and see how it turns out.
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As the title，I really wish it is impossible to install windows 8 on ASUS Transformers Prime。
it has 1GB memory，over 16GB storge，powerful GPU，and it has a keyboard dock，perfectly use as a laptop pc if could use windows 8。
No! When microsoft will release windows 8 for ARM not x86 or x64 then port of win 8 will be possible. Not now atm...
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No one knows, Windows 8 isn't even released.
I'm starting to think we need a sticky for this question...along with a few others. Or just replace the general forum with a giant search button.
I think alot of people misunderstand Windows 8^^ Windows 8 x86/x64 is just an update for Desktop PC's & Laptops. It has the optional Metro UI so you can have a more "apple-ish" feeling on you PC.
Microsoft also announced they will make a ARM version of Windows 8. And this is the only version interesting for us. It maybe possible to port it to the Transformer, but i think we have to see how closed up it is. Microsoft maybe builds in barriers to prevent it. In recent news i heard that it will probably only have the Metro UI mode. No regular desktop.
Also and this is the main point: x86 apps are NOT compatible with ARM cpus. So you thought about running your normal windows legacy office applications on your transformer? Not going to happen. The code cant be run the Tegra3 cpu. Microsoft may offer a ARM version of Office in the future. But who knows how that will look like or if its any better than the apps we have for android atm.
Windows 8 ARM tablets will be in the same state as android for tablets was one year ago. And its not even out yet. Android has come along way. Windows8 ARM has this way still in front of it.
Of course their will be Tablets for the x86 version of windows 8. But i dont think that will work any better than it does now with windows 7 on tablets. x86 cpu's need alot more power and alot more ram to run smoothly which all results in bad batterylife. And i dont think i want to use Wordx86 in its current state on a touch screen device. Its built for a mouse.
thank you,guys,and specially thank to cloulds5.yeah, cpu differences decide it cound run windows app on pc now.
I am a little fool about that.
ASUS will likely only allow their other tablet, the EP121 Slate to run Windows 8, the tablet currently runs Windows 7 which poorly handles multi-touch, but the Slate device itself has a multi-touch LCD and until the arrival of Windows 8 in late 2012 it will be a unusable feature.
The Transformer is for the Android operating systems, and as it looks the only OS upgrade you'll likely be upgrading the Transformer Prime to will be from Android 3.2 Honeycomb to Android 4 Ice Cream Sandwich.
I don't think Microsoft is going to be successful with Windows 8 in the tablet market, in part because they waited too long and let Google Android build over a hot market.
The current Windows based tablet PCs uses outdated touch screen technology that require a stylus, they have poor battery life and they are huge, 12.1" being the minimum which will be pretty big to carry and use in one hand. Oh and they are expensive. ASUS retailed the Slate EP121 for $1399.
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No, the prime has an andrioid bootloader so without 3rd party attention you won't get Win8 on there. Also windows boot locking probably means you won't be able to load it on the slate without much difficulty anywho. For these reasons and the restricted HDD space Asus are releasing a windows 8 version of the Transformer Prime in Q2/Q3 2012 with windows 8 preinstalled on a larger capacity drive. Also note that the beta of the ARM windows 8 will not be available till late jan / early feb and as stated previous older desktop apps will not run on an ARM chip only those specifically programmed fully in .NET > V3.5. This should be OK for most modern apps though.
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ASUS will likely only allow their other tablet, the EP121 Slate to run Windows 8, the tablet currently runs Windows 7 which poorly handles multi-touch, but the Slate device itself has a multi-touch LCD and until the arrival of Windows 8 in late 2012 it will be a unusable feature.
The Transformer is for the Android operating systems, and as it looks the only OS upgrade you'll likely be upgrading the Transformer Prime to will be from Android 3.2 Honeycomb to Android 4 Ice Cream Sandwich.
I don't think Microsoft is going to be successful with Windows 8 in the tablet market, in part because they waited too long and let Google Android build over a hot market.
The current Windows based tablet PCs uses outdated touch screen technology that require a stylus, they have poor battery life and they are huge, 12.1" being the minimum which will be pretty big to carry and use in one hand. Oh and they are expensive. ASUS retailed the Slate EP121 for $1399.
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With processors such as the Tegra 3 chipset you'll be seeing windows tablets wipe out most competition by late 2015 and most phones will be running reduced windows OS capable of being docked and run as full desktop PCs by 2017.
Can somebody help me understand why Windows 8 is so anticipated? From what I understand, applications will have to be written specifically to be run on windows 8 tablets/mobile phone chipsets, just like Android/iOS apps. In other words, it's not like all the applications I have running on my desktop right now are going to seamlessly run in windows 8. They'll have to be re-written to run in windows 8 on a tablet/phone. In which case it's just another mobile operating system, but this time much better integrated with desktop computers.
I'm genuinely curious; don't know enough about it to know if I should be excited or not.
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Can somebody help me understand why Windows 8 is so anticipated? From what I understand, applications will have to be written specifically to be run on windows 8 tablets/mobile phone chipsets, just like Android/iOS apps. In other words, it's not like all the applications I have running on my desktop right now are going to seamlessly run in windows 8. They'll have to be re-written to run in windows 8 on a tablet/phone. In which case it's just another mobile operating system, but this time much better integrated with desktop computers.
I'm genuinely curious; don't know enough about it to know if I should be excited or not.
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The interface is beautiful and it has some nice features like the multitasking
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Can somebody help me understand why Windows 8 is so anticipated?
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Main reason : Microsoft Office.
Right now android tablets are only good for media consumption. There are no usable office suits out there. I don't know why google doesn't do anything about it. Even their google docs doesn't fully work with the Honeycomb browser, how stupid is that ???
Windows will bring productivity to tablets, and I'm pretty sure its going to be a big threat to Android. furthermore, things like Internet Explorer, Windows networking support, seamless integration with desktop Windows 8, better and smoother UI are going to make it even more attractive.
Bump!!!!
Windows 8 has just been released for a CONSUMER preview, the ARM support looks pretty good. The X86 desktop and office etc are all still there! We've all probably seen videos of Tegra 3 running W8 so we gotto port this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQe11XKkJlY
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Main reason : Microsoft Office.
Right now android tablets are only good for media consumption. There are no usable office suits out there. I don't know why google doesn't do anything about it. Even their google docs doesn't fully work with the Honeycomb browser, how stupid is that ???
Windows will bring productivity to tablets, and I'm pretty sure its going to be a big threat to Android. furthermore, things like Internet Explorer, Windows networking support, seamless integration with desktop Windows 8, better and smoother UI are going to make it even more attractive.
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i'm using OfficeSuite Pro & Documents To Go
Both are quite good. while it doesn't have the full capability of Microsoft Office. But for simple stuff, it's pretty good.
Got both free from Amazon's free app of the day
Just something that might need to be mentioned, the snap feature that allows you to split the screen and display two apps at a time is only currently specified to be supported by hardware with a minimum resolution of 1366x768. Correct me if I am wrong by the TF201 only has a resolution of 1280x800.
Hi,
This has been discussed:
Here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1512963&highlight=windows+
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Here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1475281&highlight=windows+8
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Here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1444247&highlight=windows+8
and
Here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1435059&highlight=windows+8
and
Here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1432005&highlight=windows+8
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Here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1493829&highlight=windows+8
I definitely missed some,
but that is just the QnA section alone!
I would imagine that every other tablet forum on XDA has similar threads.
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Main reason : Microsoft Office.
Right now android tablets are only good for media consumption. There are no usable office suits out there. I don't know why google doesn't do anything about it. Even their google docs doesn't fully work with the Honeycomb browser, how stupid is that ???
Windows will bring productivity to tablets, and I'm pretty sure its going to be a big threat to Android. furthermore, things like Internet Explorer, Windows networking support, seamless integration with desktop Windows 8, better and smoother UI are going to make it even more attractive.
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This goes to the OP too. You are better off waiting for a working and usable port of Ubuntu.. which is a desktop environment. Not as easy to use as windows for a novice user, but it is definitely user friendly enough to use a good word processor and the likes.
http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/features
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This looks good..
http://www.techpowerup.com/mobile/1...ice-Makers-With-Tegra-3-Powered-Test-PCs.html
I think it might be possible...
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/microsoft_giving_tegra_3_snapdragon_s4_test_pcs_woa_developers
Ok, just wanted to put this up here.
I come from the legendary HTC HD2 so I know nothing is impossible from win6.5 to android is huge
Do you guys think a port of win8 will be possible? i mean they said 1gb of RAM is enough to run win8... and 1.5GHz should not be a problem if Atom is 1.6GHz, since we can overclock it and stuff..
so, is it possible, or whats talking against it?
Technically, its "possible". But nobody is going to take the time to port Windows8 to the Flyer. Windows is closed source, making porting it over extremely difficult. Plus, there would be no drivers to make the hardware work with the OS. I'm no developer, but the enormous amount of work to overcome these obstacles make them infeasible, compared to simply buying a Windows 8 device (when they become available).
On the other hand, there are developers who will try just for the fun of it. Will it be usuable to the general public? I doubt it....
Somebody tell Microsoft!
Hey this thing is already running a version of Linux, you see any ports to a full blown linux tablet?
Nice idea thou, the new Windows 8 looks to be finger friendly
yeah i know it will be a pain in the arse, but hey - some people like to do this just for the fun and recognition - you know, be the one who finally managed to hack win8 and port it to a android device.
its been done before, and i think many will be donating to help.
its a fun thing.. imagine dual boot
You could install Ubuntu on the Flyer, but for what , I don't know.
Read lots of issues and complaints about W8. Its a ubuntu mini wannabe. Its a nightmare on a pc and probably going to be classified as a cousin to vista. Windows is a mess structuraly compared to Linux, which is Android.
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There are a few reasons why it will never work, most of them people already mentioned
1. You can't compare a 1.6Ghz Intel x86 processor to a 1.6Ghz ARM one, the Flyer is well below the minimum specs.
2. Microsoft will not publicly release their ARM builds, they will only sell them directly to OEMs unlike the desktop version of Windows 8.
3. It's closed source.
4. If someone does miraculously manage to get it running (hey this is xda), functionality will be extremely limited as there is no legacy app support for ARM.
You could install Ubuntu like DigitalMD said and put Win8 on a VM in there.... doubt it would boot though and you would have to find chuck norris and make him round-house kick the lag.
From ALL of the Tablets on the Market, I have checked out ALL of them. The one that I'm the happiest with is the Sprint HTC EVO View Tablet. It's the LOUDEST of ANY & ALL Tablets on the market. Anywhere from a little bit to a lot louder. I know that it's just a 7" screen, but it has the best sound. I would like to get Windows 8 on the HTC EVO View Tablet. i hope that ANYONE can come up with a solution to this. If anyone can come up with a solution to this, then I would put it on the HTC EVO View Tablet ASAP!
It's not possible. Doesn't meet min specs.
We installed it at work on an HP Slate that was running Win7, and it constantly freaked out about the resolution not being high enough. If a device that was meant to run Windows OS is unable to run Win8, it's not going to happen on an Android device. At least not officially.
And considering we can't get an ICS build running, it's a pretty good bet we'll never get Win8 to run.
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It's not possible. Doesn't meet min specs.
We installed it at work on an HP Slate that was running Win7, and it constantly freaked out about the resolution not being high enough. If a device that was meant to run Windows OS is unable to run Win8, it's not going to happen on an Android device. At least not officially.
And considering we can't get an ICS build running, it's a pretty good bet we'll never get Win8 to run.
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I have a slate 500. Did you set it to the higher resolution? Win 8 should work, although the screen is a bit off at the higher resolution.
A bit off topic, I know...
Well that was just one aspect of it.
We weren't able to set the resolution any higher then the max 1024x600. It just wouldn't allow anything higher. It *runs* but anytime you click/swipe etc it vomits error messages.
Still, so many challenges keeping it from happening on the view/flyer. It's a pipe dream.
Yeah this ain't gonna happen. Already got a very good , usable OS.
I"d spend my time improving that and creating better apps
Is it possible looking at hardware? Yes, I think so. The architecture should be fine, as there is an ARM version.
However, what do we need?
-Drivers for Windows 8, and if we want to make this work out correctly, we do need the ability to write drivers ourselves, which is a lot of work.
-A custom bootloader. I hope that, after we get ICS to boot on the Flyer correctly, we can work on a bootloader, as it would be really nice for a real tweakers-tablet, so there might be a possibility for this (not giving an ETA, as I don't know how much work it is and it will take a lot of time, don't get excited on this at all...)
And besides, when we can work on a native Linux-distribution, I don't think it's worth it to work on W8, especially because every way we get it running is not legal. Oh, and let's not forget the work it takes to get it to boot, as it would take quite some magic to get a Windows kernel booting.
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Technically, its "possible". But nobody is going to take the time to port Windows8 to the Flyer. Windows is closed source, making porting it over extremely difficult. Plus, there would be no drivers to make the hardware work with the OS. I'm no developer, but the enormous amount of work to overcome these obstacles make them infeasible, compared to simply buying a Windows 8 device (when they become available).
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and what do you think about windows phone 7 on the HD2? i believe it was extremely hard, but people made it
Big_O said:
Read lots of issues and complaints about W8. Its a ubuntu mini wannabe. Its a nightmare on a pc and probably going to be classified as a cousin to vista. Windows is a mess structuraly compared to Linux, which is Android.
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f**k you... don't write total bull****s here... it's not a noob forum. i didn't see any other complaints except people's noobiness.. they'll get used to the new controls. they're just awesome.
Naysayers always say nay. I'm amazed at the accomplishments @ XDA thus far and have learned never say never. I for one would love to see this happen.
Some people do things because their told it can't be done.
im using the rtm windows 8 right now i gotta say its pretty good ...early builds had issues but they did good quicker smother would be awesome if they could get windows 8 on my VIEW cuz its def built for mobile ...splashtop for now
Big_O said:
Read lots of issues and complaints about W8. Its a ubuntu mini wannabe. Its a nightmare on a pc and probably going to be classified as a cousin to vista. Windows is a mess structuraly compared to Linux, which is Android.
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Technically possilbe, but it's extreemely unlikely to happen. Especially since windows is in no way open source, and the flyer doesn't have that many modders.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/05/01/us-barnesnoble-microsoft-idUSBRE83T0E120120501
Windows 8 in next Nook? Or is MS just adding B&N ebooks to their Windows 8 platform?
If the next nook is win8, I'm glad I got the last good one.
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I would be really surprised if B&N completely abandoned Android immediately. They've put way too much infrastructure into it. Of course, if MS gets involved, that may be the long term plan, money may not be a big object.
B&N history to date has been to release an E-Ink something about now, then a tablet something right before Christmas. If they continue that this year, that means the next tablet is nearing production. I doubt they'll make a change as big as the operating system at this point, so i would expect to see at least one other Android tablet.
If they release an x86 windows 8 tablet for less then $300 then I may upgrade to that as there are a lot more applications for x86 windows compared to the 0 for windows 8 ARM version. Means I could use a bunch of my windows apps on my tablet which would help me out tremendously. I will of course leave the gaming to my pc but I will be able to move some lighter work ot the tablet over the pc.
that means NT will be no longer support? or will be upgraded to win8?
Yeah...I'm done, B&N got my last purchase with the Tablet. Maybe this is just the excuse I needed to go iPad...sell my Nook Tablet. Though I may purchase the Kindle Fire now, strip the DRM off all my purchases and move them over. At least this way I can leverage my Amazon Prime subscription...
I hate MS that much! Why can't they just fade away!? Bastards....
I'm looking forward to what this partnership has to offer. I plan to purchase a Win8 tablet in a year or so. I think they'll have a winner on their hands.
Whats with all the Microsoft hate in here?
JRam13 said:
Whats with all the Microsoft hate in here?
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Look at macrumors, similar thinking processes.
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Were not all Mac lovers, but the fact that Microsoft is intruding into android territory is a ****-move.
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I hate to burst everyone's bubbles but you pretty much can't buy an Android product that Microsoft doesn't make money on. They make more money off of Android than their own mobile OS.
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I don't care if Microsoft makes money, they're better than apple. But the thou of them trying to replace an Android tablet with windows just sucks. I don't think 7" windows 8 tablets will work very well. Too small for a work space to be effective.
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I hate to burst everyone's bubbles but you pretty much can't buy an Android product that Microsoft doesn't make money on. They make more money off of Android than their own mobile OS.
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I think Motorola products are free of msofts royalties and will continue to be with Google's acquisition of them.
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I've long since given up my hate of MS. I have a MacBook, an aging PC that I will soon be replacing XP with Ubuntu, a media PC with Win 7, and two Android devices (including the Nook Tablet). Sure, there are plenty of things I dislike about the Windows platform but as a company, Microsoft has long since shed its "Big Bad Wolf" clothes. They are not the untouchable monopoly they once were.
First, to clear some misconceptions, Windows 8 is not exclusive to x86. They will support the ARM architecture as well, which would include the NT. Second, Windows 8 appears to be more a convergence of PC/tablet functionality; a tablet version would give you much the same look and feel as the PC version but, like iOS vs. OS X, the two will not necessarily offer the same capability for running software. You should be under no illusions that you will be productive with your NT as you would a PC. Third, no chance MS will force this on existing Nook Tablet users with root or with a custom ROM. As with other investments, MS was looking for a viable, ready-made hardware platform that was struggling so they could easily work their way into the tablet marketplace.
Potentially cool things about this - more options for OS. You may hate MS but no biggie - just keep Android. You like MS? You may have an opportunity to place Win8 on your Nook. Also, MS will look to have a feature-rich platform - I wouldn't be surprised if they coax B&N into exposing Bluetooth functionality (with the undeniable limitations in range) or expanding peripheral offerings.
Should you expect huge changes with this? No, not any time soon. Should you be worried? If you like B&N, likely no. This could be the move that saves them as they struggle against the likes of Amazon. The Nook Tablet is a fantastic piece of hardware but don't delude yourself into thinking they can take over the Kindle Fire in their current state. B&N has a pitiful app marketplace, rotten support for their hardware, and klunky software. MS could help that, despite what you think of them as a company.
Abandon the Nook if you so choose - you will have no effect on MS. Honestly, though, I'm more disgusted with the culture of Apple than MS at this point (even though I like my Mac and OS X).
Happy arguing!
SilentStormer said:
I don't care if Microsoft makes money, they're better than apple. But the thou of them trying to replace an Android tablet with windows just sucks. I don't think 7" windows 8 tablets will work very well. Too small for a work space to be effective.
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This makes a lot of sense. I don't like Windows 8 tablets/mobile OS. Whoever thought that it looked good during development needs to get their eyes checked.
I agree wholeheartedly with the above post, I have nothing against Microsoft and yeah me too I'm disgusted as hell with apple's aggressive court cases and patent claims. I don't any problem with windows 8 or with them partnering with B&N, I just know that ive tried the windows 8 beta, and I tried using it in the mindset of a tablet and quite honestly I didn't like it all that much. If Microsoft coaxes B&N into Bluetooth support, great! If they coax them into more peripherals, great! I just don't want Microsoft coaxing them into dropping all their current devices because they run android and running away with them to make windows 8 e-reader tablets. Do I think that will happen, probably not but you never know what Microsoft will do to get a foot up in the tablet industry, they're so far behind.
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I agree wholeheartedly with the above post, I have nothing against Microsoft and yeah me too I'm disgusted as hell with apple's aggressive court cases and patent claims. I don't any problem with windows 8 or with them partnering with B&N, I just know that ive tried the windows 8 beta, and I tried using it in the mindset of a tablet and quite honestly I didn't like it all that much. If Microsoft coaxes B&N into Bluetooth support, great! If they coax them into more peripherals, great! I just don't want Microsoft coaxing them into dropping all their current devices because they run android and running away with them to make windows 8 e-reader tablets. Do I think that will happen, probably not but you never know what Microsoft will do to get a foot up in the tablet industry, they're so far behind.
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Windows mobile cannot be compared to the android OS. It will be a shame if their goal is to replace that platform. MS... just stick to hardware R&D- I know they're trying to get touchscreen lag down to 1ms (from 100ms). That would be really sweet.
JRam13 said:
Windows mobile cannot be compared to the android OS.
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Are you referring to windows 8? Because, its kinda supposed to be a direct competitor for android and tbh, with proper app support, it may be able to do what webOS failed to do with the touchpad.
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Having a choice is awesome.If I can install Win8 on ARM devices, or Android, what's not to love about it? MS haters should get a lige or wait until they are out of junior high. Win7 is an exvellent OS, Office is basically untouchable. MS does many things right. Having them on ARM can only mean good things for us.
And if yoi dont like them, nobody will force you to use them, anyway!
SilentStormer said:
Were not all Mac lovers, but the fact that Microsoft is intruding into android territory is a ****-move.
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They are just acting like a buisiness, putting money into emerging markets so they have a stake in future business opportunities. It isn't like they are the Antichrist.
Hi,
is there any solution to get Windows 8 ony the Xperia Tablet?
DJ_Mic said:
Hi, is there any solution to get Windows 8 ony the Xperia Tablet?
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Seriously, why would you want to ruin a perfectly good tablet?
Cat McGowan said:
Seriously, why would you want to ruin a perfectly good tablet?
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Exactly.
Have you ever compared what can get with android tablet and windows 8
I would rather have android 2.0 tablet then a windows 8 tablet even.
Really? Is Win8 so bad?
Okay than thank you
Where can i contact a serious developer, who can unlock the developer? I have something, what could help.
As i said in another thread:
if you want to put a windows RT on the sony tablet, you would have a lot of the stuff unworking, because there are no windows side drivers for them. Lets say you can get Tegra 3 drivers, but IR remote, sound etc. probably wouldnt work on windows. Also bootloader isnt unlockable on the Sony tablets (as far as i know).
And i really dont see why would one put windows RT instead of Android
Plus windows 8/rt takes up a lot of space ( about 10g for rt and 40g for 8)
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Cat McGowan said:
Seriously, why would you want to ruin a perfectly good tablet?
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I couldn't have said it more eloquently myself
Android tablets are far from perfect, sure some of the current applications are good but many are lacking and no where near the lever of current iOS tablet apps. I don't hate apple nor do I like them but I will give apple credit where it is due, for now the iOS has the upper hand in the apps game.
I'm a PC guy so I've used windows since almost forever. Windows will never be perfect but windows 7 is very close to being a good OS. Arm is still not that powerful as the intel atom, and once it goes to 22nm, I feel the 28nm adv snapdragon pro now has may fade, I feel that might be CES 2014 though sadly, so perhaps CES next year will be the year of the windows tablets.
One big advantage windows RT has over android right now is true multitasking. I know samsung claims they have it on their note 10,1 but it is not as responsive as in windows RT I feel.
I wouldn't mind though seeing either windows RT or windows 8 in a tablet from Sony, especially one like the tablet Z with full HD and the uber sexy design. I'm sure it will be thicker probably, but if it came with a keyboard dock with an extra battery inside that would also be nice.
I'm looking forward to MWC but feel I will be disappointed, perhaps computex will have something new from Sony, if not then perhaps CES next year.
DJ_Mic said:
Really? Is Win8 so bad?
Okay than thank you
Where can i contact a serious developer, who can unlock the developer? I have something, what could help.
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App store offers nothing tiles are way to big show little usefull stuff apart that its big.
Their no usefull widgets and everything is bloated.
If you think tile acts like a widget your sadly mistaken.
Windows 8 feels like masive step back
I run it on my computer i'm thinking off going back windows 7 and uninstalling this junk unless find way to disable the slow autorun because i run on ssd in windows 7 its instant and boots faster.