CM7 vs. Custom Rom - Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi
I'm wondering which rom is smoother and faster:
CM7 @ Clemsyn's 1.4Ghz OR Custom Rom with EXT4 FS (like aura or the dark side) with Clemsyn's 1.4Ghz
TY

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Great answer ><
I'm already tried it, and its seems that aura faster than cm7, that's weird because most of the people prefer CM7.
Did i missed something?

I'm curious too... Which one does the community feel it's better and why?

No one will agree on what the best ROM is

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No one will agree on what the best ROM is
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Alright let me rephrase then, from an objective standpoint (or as objective as anyone can be on matters like this) what are the pros and cons of each ROM (Say DarkSide and CM7), I know this would help a ton for me to decide which to choose personally.

The smoothest ROM I ever used, is CM7 the the 1.45 ghz kernel hands down. The blur ROMs can be smooth depending on the kernel or other modifications you use.
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I have been happier with TheDarkSide than CM7. CM7 gives some excellent benches but TDS seems snappier, I don't know. It takes longer to boot but I am quite all right with that.

Alright that sounds really good... it might come down to the flip of a coin for me then!
One last question that I didn't find featured in any of the instructions. For the Xperia X10, it was a bit of a nightmare having to mix and match kernels with the ROMs to make sure things worked properly (especially since the devs assumed you had the correct one or knew where to get it). I guess what I'm asking is, do the necessary kernel comes included with the ROMs as long as I have 4.5.91 (CM7 Ba2tF and TDS) or do I have to hunt down and flash different versions?

littleemp said:
Alright that sounds really good... it might come down to the flip of a coin for me then!
One last question that I didn't find featured in any of the instructions. For the Xperia X10, it was a bit of a nightmare having to mix and match kernels with the ROMs to make sure things worked properly (especially since the devs assumed you had the correct one or knew where to get it). I guess what I'm asking is, do the necessary kernel comes included with the ROMs as long as I have 4.5.91 (CM7 Ba2tF and TDS) or do I have to hunt down and flash different versions?
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Faux's kernel is pretty standard, he has a Gingerbread version for any Blur based ROM out there, and a CM7 version for, well, CM7.

To decide wich Rom is best for you, you first have look at your usage of the phone!
If you use Webtop than CM7 is a no-go for you since it has none. If you don´t need or use all the blur-bloat and want a functional, highly customizeable Rom, then CM7 is the right choice.

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To decide wich Rom is best for you, you first have look at your usage of the phone!
If you use Webtop than CM7 is a no-go for you since it has none. If you don´t need or use all the blur-bloat and want a functional, highly customizeable Rom, then CM7 is the right choice.
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You're right, but i didnt ask for the BEST rom becasue i know that every rom have his own pros and cons. i asked who is the smoothest and fastest rom
On CM7 i have lags when i move between home screens and its didnt happen in Aura.

asafba said:
You're right, but i didnt ask for the BEST rom becasue i know that every rom have his own pros and cons. i asked who is the smoothest and fastest rom
On CM7 i have lags when i move between home screens and its didnt happen in Aura.
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i use CM7 with the 1.0 ghz enhanced kernel, and i get no lag between home screens. heavy widget user, almost all animations disabled though. i'm not a big fan of them, i don't need my phone to look fancy, i just want it to be a hub for all of my information.
honestly, i can't tell any difference between performance in a ROM like Aura or Darkside and CM7. at this point, it's just pure prefence. do you like Blur? go with Aura or Darkside. do you like AOSP and lots of ways to customize your phone? go with CM7

Thank you for your answer!
You use Scrollable Widgets like pure news widget or FB widget? the lags appear only when i use them.
and which launcher do you use?

asafba said:
Thank you for your answer!
You use Scrollable Widgets like pure news widget or FB widget? the lags appear only when i use them.
and which launcher do you use?
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ADW Ex, and a heavy mixture of Android pro widgets and beautiful widgets.
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Best Rom Galaxy S II ???

I get my S II tomorrow and I've been looking around alot to see what the best rom out is, but there's loads of roms available.
What I'm asking is instead of spending multiple hours going through every rom to find out whats good, whats peoples favorites or what would you recommend,
Stuff I need working -
Camera
Onboard Storage
GPS
(These are musts)
I would preferably like things like overclocking stuff that utilizes the dual core 1.2ghz processor.
Any ideas and thanks in advance
With multiple exact same posts as yours .
One their is no bests rom .
Two read the individual rom threads and make up your own mind.
Three if unable to make up your mind stick with stock .
Four posts belongs Q&A
Stuff I need working -
Camera
Onboard Storage
GPS
You should find they come with the phone not the rom .
jje
Firstly sorry for not noticing the many other posts dedicated to this subject.
Secondary, camera etc may come with the phone but it doesn't specifically come with the rom, I have a Xperia Arc at the moment and the freexperia project doesnt have the camera up and running, so I feel like that was a valid question.
All I was asking is what people are using? What you prefer?
Not an index to what you hate and love about every rom
yusuo said:
Firstly sorry for not noticing the many other posts dedicated to this subject.
Secondary, camera etc may come with the phone but it doesn't specifically come with the rom, I have a Xperia Arc at the moment and the freexperia project doesnt have the camera up and running, so I feel like that was a valid question.
Camera is hardware it works on every rom always has .
All I was asking is what people are using? What you prefer?
Home brewed .
jje
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Coming from HTC Desire, I would of asked exactly the same questions. When new ROMS came out on HTC Desire, or the X10, not everything was working right from the start. Even on the ROMS on this phone it seems not everything is working, so surely the question is valid.
most are just themed roms and don't offer much over a rooted and tweaked stock rom.
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The most famous roms have all the features your looking for i believe, Better Camera, overclock 1.6 Ghz, Better GPS etc.
But you can't say which one is best cause they all are different in their own way, specially in themes and so on.
Cm 7
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@JJEgan, you were right in the other thread... this is getting ridiculous
@OP: there's really not much difference between them. The different ones are probably CM7, MIUI and Oxygen (they're not stable), the rest just have some modifications, and they mostly are stable with everything working. Just see which one has more views and pick one you think you like. Creating a thread like this has absolutely no point, you will get zero information out of it... even if people start answering you, you'll just get a random sample of what some people are using.
Stock
Just root it and add a kernel like niphetamine - get juicedefender too.
Simples.
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Villain Rom 2.4.2 best for me. It's based on stock firmware so gps, camera etc is working fine. Browser is laggy though so use Dolphin HD or another one from the market.
You get Villain tweaks too!
Flash the Ninphetamine kernel as its overclocked to 1.6ghz.
Sorted
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troffers said:
Villain Rom 2.4.2 best for me. It's based on stock firmware so gps, camera etc is working fine. Browser is laggy though so use Dolphin HD or another one from the market.
You get Villain tweaks too!
Flash the Ninphetamine kernel as its overclocked to 1.6ghz.
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True, villain rom is nice - but some of us prefer the stock browser too much. :/
If it wasnt for that, id probably use villain too.
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I agree with some of the others in this thread, just stock is best. Samsung polished the firmware really well and its amazing. Id say just flash a custom kernel if you want to do extra stuff like oc/uv or something. Really the only time i ever switch from stock is to try CM7 then or something. Other than that imo stock is best.
GS2 is the first phone where stock meet all my needs. Ive played with a couple of different roms and usually something happens after the first week.
Most roms in dev section give you a all in one package. So must of the tweaks that you would normally install manually are already preinstalled. This is the fun part about android with so many choices, try a couple out first and see what fits your needs.
This is a valid question, the more popular the phone the more hours of searching it takes. CM7 is buggy as hell. Stay away. Stick with stock and just flash a kernel. Samsung did a good job actually with this phone, especially with the skinning in my opinion. It amazes me people buy a super specd phone like this the install ROMS that strip the phone of it's power. CM7 is taking way too long honestly and it's absurd how buggy it is at this point in the phones release history.
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Revolution 2.6 is the best,it has a kitchen which makes life easier.
LonelyJourney said:
This is a valid question, the more popular the phone the more hours of searching it takes. CM7 is buggy as hell. Stay away. Stick with stock and just flash a kernel. Samsung did a good job actually with this phone, especially with the skinning in my opinion. It amazes me people buy a super specd phone like this the install ROMS that strip the phone of it's power. CM7 is taking way too long honestly and it's absurd how buggy it is at this point in the phones release history.
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Just a little rectification for OP and others: CM7 is an unstable nightly build officially, but it's usable. I have it for a week now, and I haven't had any serious problems. It's stable and I can use it just like the stock ROM, with very few limitations. I'm not going back to other roms for now
Leomar's revolution is amazing. Lots of customised stuff.
VillainROM for a stock look which allows for easily added tweaks. Friendly thread as well.
Ninphetamine kernel works great with both roms...
I atlculay lvoe my sumnasg glxaay s2 wtih VliaRionlm mroe tahn my xobx
I am using Lite'ning 6.1 with speedmod kernel T32 but it has not BLN so I will change kernel.
For me, the rom is perfect but anyway I have not tried more (in GT-i9000 I tried too much)
Cyanogenmod ofcourse
I dont have a rooted SGS2 but Cyanogenmod is on the vids very good and smooth.
There are a few issues but there are not major bugs.
Only A2DP dont work ... And a few another things !

Difference between CM7 and Aura?

i am currently using CM7 and really like it, but i would like to have my fingerprint scanner back, and some of the motoblur i actually quite liked (though it seems im in a minority XD )
what i'd like to know is: what features would i lose/gain from flashing to Aura? from reading their specs they seem quite similar. is either significantly better (i realise CM7 is only beta, and i will probably go back to it when it has a full release if i do change for now)
thanks a lot
I had cm7 previously, then just flashed aura. Aura (the debloat version) is a bit faster and smoother, however you have to download the 3rd party browser and gallery for the full effect. I'm liking it so far and will jump back into CM7 once it is stablized.
ishamm said:
i am currently using CM7 and really like it, but i would like to have my fingerprint scanner back, and some of the motoblur i actually quite liked (though it seems im in a minority XD )
what i'd like to know is: what features would i lose/gain from flashing to Aura? from reading their specs they seem quite similar. is either significantly better (i realise CM7 is only beta, and i will probably go back to it when it has a full release if i do change for now)
thanks a lot
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The devs of cm7 go for the slimmest fastest rom they can come up with, cm7 is beta, but it is solid no doubt, it is the fastest rom for the atrix hands down.
with cm7 you boot up with 800-600mb ram aura 500-300. cm7 rom file is more the 50% smaller then blur roms.
with cm7 you curently loose the fingerprint scanner and webtop, but they have fp scanner working and it should be in the next build. for webtop who knows =p
ohhh cm7 has some sick themes that are mad easy to apply
theres more but yea enough said

New to Android. Researched and narrowed. Cm7 vs unnamed? Feedback?

Can someone tell me a few differences between unnamed and cm7? I've scoured the Web and narrowed it down between these two mods. I'm looking for features and good battery life. I webbrowse and listen do music a lot.
I'm Hoping there are people who have used both
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re: CM7 or unNamed
crewxp said:
Can someone tell me a few differences between unnamed and cm7? I've scoured the Web and narrowed it down between these two mods. I'm looking for features and good battery life. I webbrowse and listen do music a lot.
I'm Hoping there are people who have used both
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I have used and extensivly tested both of them, if you want the
full features of your camera to remain intact you should select
the UnNamed 1.0.4 rom. CM7 lacks many of the features in the
camera part of the phone and it does not give you the full 30fps
framerates while recording videos as well as other issues.
Not only that, but the cosmetic appearance of the camera's lcd screen looks
like some cheapy camera phone and lacks many of the options which are found
in all the stock and custom roms except in CM7.
Hope this helps.
CM7 is good, but still has some rough edges.. I would suggest unnamed as your option being a new Android user. unnamed is based on the stock ROM and enhances on the stock rom. So basically everything works out of the box as it was intended to be
Okay thanks guys! Exactly what I needed. I thought since CNET was bigger, it would be better. good thing I asked!
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As stated above there are a lot of difference between the two roms you mentioned above. I would say try them all out as it is very easy. Get a rom working THE WAY YOU LIKE IT, then make a nandroid backup, try out another rom and set it up the way you like it and then make a nandroid backup. Then you can easily go between roms or stick with what you like best. As far as CM7 goes (I have been using CM7 since my captivate) and have found I like it the best. Due to integrated modifications and such it has everything working great. I do see that the camera works well but is not the same as the stock camera as far as settings and the CM7 camcorder (haven't noticed any issues personally) framerates not working as good as stock/stock based roms, and speed dial is not built in. Those are the ONLY things that can use some work in my humble opinion. But if your like me and want to customize easier, switch to different themes on the fly without any problems other than opening up the built in theme Chooser app. For stock roms I always had to wait for the theme developer to update his theme between rom updates due to framework changes, sometimes this would be the same day to a few days in between. Just trying to share some of the benefits CM7 may have. I have also tried different roms as UnNamed rom and they do work really well, the speed and fluidity of the stock based roms is as good as CM7 right now (wasn't the case on my captivate as CM7 worked smoother and faster than stock based roms). Plus CM7 will PROBABLY have ICS working before it is working on the stock roms. There are many things to look at and try out, so that is why I recommend trying them all out and find what you like.
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Simply put, do you want it to be smooth or not? UnNamed is liquid butter smooth for me, cm wasn't. I have a very picky eye for this kind of thing being a pc gamer
tried both... Preferring CM7 at this point...
Although it's nice that the Stock-based firmwares (unNamed) work 100%, I know that development for CM7 is not far behind, and will soon surpass anything stock-based can offer.
The only real upside to unNamed over CM7 at the moment is the fully working Wifi Hotspot feature. (Which will of course be fixed soon in CM7) as well as the MHL (USB to HDMI adapter)...
Again... Both are good roms. But if you want to get on the Ice-cream truck sooner; go with CM. If you want things working %100 without a lot of trouble... Go with unNamed.
monsieurtalbot said:
tried both... Preferring CM7 at this point...
Although it's nice that the Stock-based firmwares (unNamed) work 100%, I know that development for CM7 is not far behind, and will soon surpass anything stock-based can offer.
The only real upside to unNamed over CM7 at the moment is the fully working Wifi Hotspot feature. (Which will of course be fixed soon in CM7) as well as the MHL (USB to HDMI adapter)...
Again... Both are good roms. But if you want to get on the Ice-cream truck sooner; go with CM. If you want things working %100 without a lot of trouble... Go with unNamed.
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I like CM7 as well however the Camera is one of the main feats of the phone, and if there was a good alternative whether 3rd party or not i would keep CM7 (its still on a NAND backup) but there isnt. Not even the MIUI Camera works (which is kinda nice). Also, the MHL out doesn't work as you mentioned, and battery life is fairly close to one another.
I personally bounce back between serendipity and Cm7, However IF there was a way to run a i9100 rom on our phones, then i would run gingerMOD all the way.

GF has Vibrant, wants best stock like rom with best performance...

the girls phone is still stuck on 2.1 (ew)
im looking for something close to stock that is quick, optimized and up to date if possible.
looking for better battery life as well.
i rooted and installed cwm tonight, so its ready to go.
id prefer to keep it with touchwiz as she likes TW.
any ideas on what to look at as a good rom?
she likes landscape mode to reply to texts and stuff, ive seen how some can be buggy with that, so thats a feature i need to work correctly.
is gingerbread out for this phone?
thanks everyone.
We have CyanogenMod for this phone (2.3.7) - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1061889
Not an official Gingerbread release.
If you want a 2.2, stock-like but tweaked to run smooth phone, I'd go with Bionix; http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=925548
Do note, it's sort of outdated, because of a bunch of new stuff that's come out. But it's the closest to stock (In the way things run.) It's just been optimized and it's really responsive. It comes with a gingerbread theme, so that's nice.
And you can always update apps and whatnot, install a newer modem, kernel, etc.
I would suggest trigger 3.2 final it is what i am currently running and i havent had any problems with it
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When it comes to TW roms I found Trigger 3.2 to be very good. Although Bionix is another good choice as well.
However, my favorite rom by far is MIUI. It's based on android 2.3.7 (gingerbread) and CM7. It's super user friendly and one of the best overall built roms I've ever used. Plus it is extremely customizable and smooth. However, it has no app drawer, that's it's flaw. Still you should have your girlfriend look at it and see if she would like it, even though it's not really TW.
Here's a guide to flash it & everything else you'll need to get started... "Guide- Easily Flash MIUI for Vibrant + Themes/Modems/Kernels/ and more!"
Project-V all the way. You won't find a better 2.2 rom
Seeing as its not your phone i wouldn't suggest any 2.3 roms. Even tho they are great and have great devs working on them they still have bugs due to a lack of source code.
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Seeing as its not your phone i wouldn't suggest any 2.3 roms. Even tho they are great and have great devs working on them they still have bugs due to a lack of source code.
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thanks,
yes i prefer not to have any bugs since she isnt really a dev when it comes to stuff and wouldnt know what to do if something started messing up lol.
thanks for the heads up everyone, ill be checking out every rom that was mentioned, perhaps a link included would help me faster access them.
ill show each one to her and see what she prefers.
I ended up with trigger, will let you all know how it goes for her.
she is very happy with how snappy it is, along with the visual voicemail lol

Rooting my phone today

With a buddy. I have stock gb 2.3.4. I dont like radical change but would like to add speed, teathering, batt life & keep the use of the camara. To confused with all the roms out there. What is going to be a simple....wont stray too far away from Sence rom to get me started. Thx
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ddemara said:
With a buddy. I have stock gb 2.3.4. I dont like radical change but would like to add speed, teathering, batt life & keep the use of the camara. To confused with all the roms out there. What is going to be a simple....wont stray too far away from Sence rom to get me started. Thx
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IMO Sense sucks ass and whenever you switch to an AOSP based rom you will never want to go back to sense. I've been using the latestet builds of the ICS rom which works...kinda but you may want to stay away from it if you are not to fimarlier with flashing roms and such.
I would install this ROM if I were you: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/13354-cust-thundershed-v16-cm72-ics-ish-june-4/
I ran that rom for months and loved it, much faster then stock, more features and better battery life when used with IMO's leans kernal found here: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/1258-kernel-aosp-leankernel-minimalistic-kernel-v621-52012/
I'd say something BAMF. SkyRaider maybe. I personally love Sense. I love the widgets, mainly the picture album widget.
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IMO Sense sucks ass and whenever you switch to an AOSP based rom you will never want to go back to sense. I've been using the latestet builds of the ICS rom which works...kinda but you may want to stay away from it if you are not to fimarlier with flashing roms and such.
I would install this ROM if I were you: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/13354-cust-thundershed-v16-cm72-ics-ish-june-4/
I ran that rom for months and loved it, much faster then stock, more features and better battery life when used with IMO's leans kernal found here: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/1258-kernel-aosp-leankernel-minimalistic-kernel-v621-52012/
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Once I switched to asop I will never go back to sense
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I'd agree with the skyraider suggestion if you are new to this and want to stay close to what you have now. Use that and once setup make a backup, then you cam experiment with others til you find what you like and you'll always have the backup to restore if you don't like what you are trying out. I'd definitely give worksheds cm build a run as well to check out the aosp side and decide if its for you. He is an excellent dev and I personally have had the privilege to use his work when he first started and he played a big part in getting me started as well. You can't go wrong with either of those builds.
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CondemnedSoul said:
I'd agree with the skyraider suggestion if you are new to this and want to stay close to what you have now. Use that and once setup make a backup, then you cam experiment with others til you find what you like and you'll always have the backup to restore if you don't like what you are trying out. I'd definitely give worksheds cm build a run as well to check out the aosp side and decide if its for you. He is an excellent dev and I personally have had the privilege to use his work when he first started and he played a big part in getting me started as well. You can't go wrong with either of those builds.
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I agree with the recommendations. Of the Sense based ROMs SkyRaider and Son of a Bliss (SOAB) are the best. The best AOSP ROMs are ThunderShed (what this poster refers to as "WorkShed's CM build") and SFK's CM7 build (it is based on ThunderShed). I have tried the newer ROMs based on the ICS leak and while it is cool to think you are getting ICS on your phone the kernels are not ICS and so there are small issues that seem to pop up. Santod's NuSense is perhaps the most stable and best looking of these if you want to investigate.
Most people find that every phone is different and what works best on my phone isn't necessarily what works best on yours. Add to that, different kernels and radios work better on individual phones. So while starting with a recommended combination (eg, ThunderShed, using Zoom kernel and .9 radio works well on my phone), you may find a different combination works best of yours. So prepare to try out different ROMs, with different kernels, and different radios. Part of the fun, in fact, is trying them out. Good luck.
Nomad1600 said:
I agree with the recommendations. Of the Sense based ROMs SkyRaider and Son of a Bliss (SOAB) are the best. The best AOSP ROMs are ThunderShed (what this poster refers to as "WorkShed's CM build") and SFK's CM7 build (it is based on ThunderShed). I have tried the newer ROMs based on the ICS leak and while it is cool to think you are getting ICS on your phone the kernels are not ICS and so there are small issues that seem to pop up. Santod's NuSense is perhaps the most stable and best looking of these if you want to investigate.
Most people find that every phone is different and what works best on my phone isn't necessarily what works best on yours. Add to that, different kernels and radios work better on individual phones. So while starting with a recommended combination (eg, ThunderShed, using Zoom kernel and .9 radio works well on my phone), you may find a different combination works best of yours. So prepare to try out different ROMs, with different kernels, and different radios. Part of the fun, in fact, is trying them out. Good luck.
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Nomad1600 said:
So prepare to try out different ROMs, with different kernels, and different radios. Part of the fun, in fact, is trying them out. Good luck.
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I agree! I'm trying to decide what features I like most. It's good to try different ROMs to see just that.
FloatingBusError said:
I agree! I'm trying to decide what features I like most. It's good to try different ROMs to see just that.
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if you want to go the cyanogenmod route, use CM7.1.1 unofficial for the thunderbolt. its lying around this forum somewhere, CM7 uses android open source (AOSP for short) and it installs with only 88+MB of data, leaving LOTS of room. talk to me about how to majorly speed up the phone as i have and you will not regret it. i have used cm7.1, plus other tweaks involving sd-ext and cache boosts to speed up this phone 300%.using sense roms is nice, but if you want speed long term, then dont use sense. it clogs the memory with extra visuals that just arent needed.

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