Best capacitive stylus (for the asus) - Eee Pad Transformer Accessories

Hi,
I know the 'Adonit Jot' is quite popular on this area of the forum but I'll ask anyway
I've been looking at stylus's that would work well with the asus (handwriting ability would be helpful) and have come across the following stylus's in my search (that are easy to get hold of in the uk - aka amazon and ebay )
- Adonit Jot
- Media Devil Magic Wand
- Acase (2nd gen)
- Targus
- Griffin (both standard and slimline versions)
- Boxwave
- Dagi
- Samsung Capacative Stylus
have any of you tried out these stylus's and if so have you liked them or not (or is there a good stylus I have missed from my list?
Personally right now I'm leaning towards the griffin (as it is semi cheap and has good reviews) and getting one of each type (though as I could not find the slimline version on the griffin website i'm not sure if it is a fake or not) - it be nice if a nib type stylus existed but they don't seem to work on capacitive screens?!
Anyways, any opinion would be great on this

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I personally really dislike writing with "normal" capacitive stylus (like Griffin or the capacitive Wacom). It's like trying to write with a fat felt-tip pen.
Adonit is of course great for writing. It can have skipping problem - then you have to get replacement discs or even replace the stylus, but their customer supports seems quite good. Dagi requires strict angle of writing if I remember correctly.

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Adonit- Dont waste your time. you will be spending all of your waking hours getting replacement disks or a new stylus when it skips, or getting argued with from the cust service rep on the jot thread or waiting for days for cust service to respond to you. but other than that it was great for the 2 days it did not skip.
I have used both the griffin and acase genII- I recommend the acase- it works great on my TFR. but i also use rainx on my screen(it has not screen protector on it) aand that i think is what makes it not hang and respond very smoothly while handwritting. (Rainx- three coats about once every 3 weeks) Helps the stylus move smoothly and cuts down on finger prints.

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Adonit has great customer service... but mine has been skipping since day 1. However, I have found a temporary fix while I wait for the (free) replacement disks. I use saliva to lubricate and conduct between the metal ball and the disk... I would use some other thing but I haven't found a gel around the apartment .

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tonyz3 said:
Adonit- Dont waste your time. you will be spending all of your waking hours getting replacement disks or a new stylus when it skips, or getting argued with from the cust service rep on the jot thread or waiting for days for cust service to respond to you. but other than that it was great for the 2 days it did not skip.
I have used both the griffin and acase genII- I recommend the acase- it works great on my TFR. but i also use rainx on my screen(it has not screen protector on it) aand that i think is what makes it not hang and respond very smoothly while handwritting. (Rainx- three coats about once every 3 weeks) Helps the stylus move smoothly and cuts down on finger prints.
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Don't listen to this fool. Read the Adonit Jot thread, the customer service manager never argued and offered great service, replacing the product several times to try to make him happy. He's being a baby and complaining about anything he can think of to try to make the product look worse.
The Jot works great. I love it.

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Thanks for all the replies so far
I think it's comes down to a personal preference thing - some type of stylus's will work for some but not others!
I have to agree that the "standard" shaped stylus does look a bit difficult to draw and write with but it could be different once I try it out.................plus the transformer is not for me but my mum so it's what suits her.
The adonit jot looks like an interesting opinion - the major problem is that I'm located in the UK and that stylus is really marked up here ($33+ for the jot and $40+ for the pro) and the tip replacements aren't sold here and though can be bought via the official site costs $15.43 shipping per order which is mad........................... I wish we in the UK had as many opinions (and the same prices!) as those in the USA
i don't know if the following is UK only but the MediaDevil Magic wand looks interesting - same shape as the griffin, targus, etc................ but the reviews on amazon are really high and it's only about £10.
The acase 2nd gen looks interesting and easier to write with but i have read mixed reviews - many say that the material used for the tip is too soft so doesn't work so well but I don't know how true that is
Anyways thanks for the opinions and hope to hear more of peoples 2 cents on this topic so to speak
Edit: Rain x? - do you mean this stuff? (http://www.theultimatefinish.co.uk/rain-x/foaming-glass-cleaner.aspx) - is that safe to use on a tablet? (though it would be a tablet with a screen protector)

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Search YouTube for "eee pad transformer gorilla glass" and watch the video Asus put together. You don't need a screen protector, and most will have negative effects on the performance of stylus.

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apple85 said:
The adonit jot looks like an interesting opinion - the major problem is that I'm located in the UK and that stylus is really marked up here ($33+ for the jot and $40+ for the pro) and the tip replacements aren't sold here and though can be bought via the official site costs $15.43 shipping per order which is mad........................... I wish we in the UK had as many opinions (and the same prices!) as those in the USA
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What prices do you see on our official site, http://adonit.net? If the prices there are ok, you can buy a Jot and a pair of replacement discs with it, to save you buying them separately later, and saving you an extra shipping cost.

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Something that I would consider, different styli are probably better for writing notes than for sketching drawings. I'd just use my finger for the former but a good stylus for the latter if possible. That's also why I've been watching this thread lol.
I'm not entirely sure capacitive = good idea for a stylus in general, but people seem to pull it off.
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Gary13579 said:
Don't listen to this fool. Read the Adonit Jot thread, the customer service manager never argued and offered great service, replacing the product several times to try to make him happy. He's being a baby and complaining about anything he can think of to try to make the product look worse.
The Jot works great. I love it.
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I always find it funny when the same 4 people are commenting 97% of the time ( as seen on the Jot thread) and it seems that if there is an opinion that they dont agree on then they attack that person.
Listen G I am glad you love your jot so much - you probably sleep with it under your pillow.
But unfortunately there are alot of people who have problems with the Jot and answering someone others question i gave that person my opinion. Who are you to even involve your self with criticising my answer.
I hope they do read the entire jot thread to see what i mean.
1 important point to look for is all the excuses that pop up about why the jot is skipping. bad batch of disks, even though some people have use like 6 of them, try using conductive grease, try using saliva, try using the packaging from the bag the extra disks were sent in, not enough conductivity- now thats funny, and the list goes on,
Uh, not sure about anyone else but when i spend $30ish on a stylus- I expect it to work out of the box and don't expect to return disks over and over, or stand on my right leg after i hocked a flem ball into it - to get it to work properly.
Buy it at your own risk....but there are many other options out there.
Not a baby but i expect a little more out of a product when i buy it.
Now i am not sure when it became acceptable on this forum for an employee of a company to push their product on every thread about a stylus. Perhaps that is why he is banned on the apple thread he mentioned.

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tonyz3 said:
I always find it funny when the same 4 people are commenting 97% of the time ( as seen on the Jot thread) and it seems that if there is an opinion that they dont agree on then they attack that person.
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Are you actually implying that I am connected to Adonit in some way? LOL. I just got it under a week ago. I just started posting in the thread under a week ago. I'm a retired moderator, ffs. But yeah, go ahead and question the reasoning behind my posts. They're clearly all spam for Adonit.
As for Adonit "pushing their product in every thread" -- this is most certainly a LIE in your behalf. I've already told Jon that as long as he keeps it in the few threads where CS is required, it's okay. Did you not pay attention to that part of the thread either?
Sent from my Transformer TF101

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Gary13579 said:
Are you actually implying that I am connected to Adonit in some way? LOL.
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No I understand you are a fanboy not an employee..... and yes i was speaking about Jon as an employee.
Bottom line the product is flawed. And if the best you guys can do is attack someone with an opinion for others who are thinking about buying this thing or nonstop excuses about how to make a broken one work....good luck
Yeah i know this thread was clearly screaming out for Jons help and that is why he took the time to plug his website...
Come on a retired Mod should understand this......well at least one who isn;t a fanboy.

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What I understand is that you said Jon had argued with you in that thread. Could you find the part where he treated you badly, and post it for us to see? Could you also find the part of the thread where Jon offered you several replacements in an attempt to make you happy, and eventually offered a full refund to you? Do you not understand that Adonit owed you *absolutely nothing* and went out of their way *and took a loss* just to make you happy? It's not like they get the stylus back, then resell them. So 4 stylus given away essentially, considering you got the refund.
I don't see how that's arguing with you.
Sent from my Transformer TF101

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Gary13579 said:
What I understand is that you said Jon had argued with you in that thread. Could you find the part where he treated you badly, and post it for us to see? Could you also find the part of the thread where Jon offered you several replacements in an attempt to make you happy, and eventually offered a full refund to you? Do you not understand that Adonit owed you *absolutely nothing* and went out of their way *and took a loss* just to make you happy? It's not like they get the stylus back, then resell them. So 4 stylus given away essentially, considering you got the refund.
I don't see how that's arguing with you.
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Listen this is my last response to your pettiness..... What in hell makes you the spokes person for them.
Lets start off by saying i sent the jot back to them and got my refund, they did not just give me a refund and let me keep it.....that was after 5 disks did not work.
If you read my post i said nothing but good things about the jot and that i was even interested in buying it again after the issues were fixed. My issues with cust service were through their official site with the long delays in comminucation and deliverery.
On the jot thread and their site I mentioned i needed a working stylus for the amount of work i do on my TFR each day and did not have the time to wait a week +each time. I thanked Jon numerous times for his efforts but the time when i started to get annoyed is when he like you felt the need to comment on every thing i posted when i was giving feedback to others who asked questions.
Stop pestering me with your fanboy crap. I am entitled to my opinions especially when someone asks for it....I think that if someone asks for an opiniion on a thread they are entitled to hear good experiences and bad experiences without either opinion getting attacked.
We get it....you love it...GREAT . i wish i had a better experience with it but i didn't.....by the way it has only been a week...i hope it doesn't starts to skip on you.
This is not the only thread about the jot that Jon is spamming.....One he already got kicked off.

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I'm no moderator here but will you guys (and or gals) take this outside? I'm interested in this thread not in your semi-related discuession, and odds are it's better to have one thread for "Best capacitive stylus (for the asus)" and one for y'all to give us something we can pop corn and read.
It's certainly more a pop corn eater than on topic in my honest opinion.
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Spidey01 said:
I'm no moderator here but will you guys (and or gals) take this outside? I'm interested in this thread not in your semi-related discuession, and odds are it's better to have one thread for "Best capacitive stylus (for the asus)"
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Thanks that is exactly the point i am trying to make.

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Gary13579 said:
What I understand is that you said Jon had argued with you in that thread. Could you find the part where he treated you badly, and post it for us to see?
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You didn't do this. Probably because you know you can't. So you should probably go edit your post about this, as it clearly isn't true. Lol'd at you accusing Jon of spamming, though. Are you seriously delusional/idiotic enough to believe that what Jon is doing in that thread is spamming? The thread is already made. He's answering peoples questions and helping customers. You're really, really thick if you think that is spamming, period.
I'm done, now. Apologies for the off-topic bickering, just can't stand some of these self-entitled people.
Sent from my Transformer TF101

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From what I can gather there is 3 sort of capacitive stylus's availiable to buy:
- The bog standard rounded end stylus made out of rubber/foam (such as boxwave, griffin, targus, etc....) - good for general tablet navigating (these come in normal 9mm? nib ends or the 'slimline' versions with about a 6mm end)
- The 'precision plastics' (the adonit jots and Dagi) - probably the best sort for precision/detail work such as handwriting and perhaps sketching but perhaps not so great for general navigation things
- The conductive fiber cloth stylus (Aponyo and Kosella (don't know if these are the same people but their are 2 different websites!) - these look similar to the bog standard stylus's just they use conductive fiber in their nibs instead of rubber. On the downside the nib looks softer/easier to press into itself which may annoy some people. Plus side though their seems like there would be less friction with the screen with the fiber tip than with a rubber tip and less likely to scratch. It looks like it be good for doing artwork/mimicking a paintbrush
I don't think after all i've read that there is (currently) a stylus type out there that can tick all the job boxes (unless you only need one box ticked like just using the tablet to take notes or surf the web)
Any (or at least the majority) of artists out there would need more than 1 type of pencil or one type/size of brush and perhaps that is the way that stylus's should be looked at for the time being at least.
I'm thinking that it may be a good idea to try out one of all 3 and hopefully at least one will suit. At the moment i'm leaning towards:
- Griffin for the bog standard stylus (cheap and very good reviews) - I just can't decide between the normal or slimline sizes
- Adonit Jot for the precision/handwriting stuff (I take what everyone has said on this - pos and neg stuff alike but if it works as it should it it would tick a few of those boxes the griffin can't (or at least as well) and I've managed to contact a couple of UK retailers that have excellent customer service (and direct links to adonit themselves) - i still wants to double check a few things but all in all it looks promising)
- At time of writing i'm contacting Aponyo and Kosella to find out more about the stylus's and see if they sell/have retailers in the uk. However there is a seller on ebay selling a mock or oem/factory direct of the Kosella stylus's (looks exactly the same apart from lack of logo) - the price is good and sometimes the fake's/oem's can be just as well made as the official ones without the price tag - I'm interested in comparing it to the rubber nib stylus.
I'm still not sure whether I'll get a screen protector or not - I've always been a 'better safe than sorry' person and if the protector doesn't affect the stylus much then it's worth having in my book.
I have a couple of spare screen protectors for my dsi xl around the house (and I believe screen protectors of any gadget are designed not to leave a mark when taken off) - I was thinking about putting one of those on and compare the stylus's functionality with and without a screen protector side by side before deciding whether to purchase a screen protector or not..................well I thought it was a neat idea
Anyway keep the opinions coming and I hope the above post may of helped some other

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apple85 said:
I'm still not sure whether I'll get a screen protector or not - I've always been a 'better safe than sorry' person and if the protector doesn't affect the stylus much then it's worth having in my book.
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There isn't really a need for a screen protector on the Transformer. There's no chance a stylus could scratch it.
Check out this vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUcJnwyCtes

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tonyz3 said:
I always find it funny when the same 4 people are commenting 97% of the time ( as seen on the Jot thread) and it seems that if there is an opinion that they dont agree on then they attack that person.
Listen G I am glad you love your jot so much - you probably sleep with it under your pillow.
But unfortunately there are alot of people who have problems with the Jot and answering someone others question i gave that person my opinion. Who are you to even involve your self with criticising my answer.
I hope they do read the entire jot thread to see what i mean.
1 important point to look for is all the excuses that pop up about why the jot is skipping. bad batch of disks, even though some people have use like 6 of them, try using conductive grease, try using saliva, try using the packaging from the bag the extra disks were sent in, not enough conductivity- now thats funny, and the list goes on,
Uh, not sure about anyone else but when i spend $30ish on a stylus- I expect it to work out of the box and don't expect to return disks over and over, or stand on my right leg after i hocked a flem ball into it - to get it to work properly.
Buy it at your own risk....but there are many other options out there.
Not a baby but i expect a little more out of a product when i buy it.
Now i am not sure when it became acceptable on this forum for an employee of a company to push their product on every thread about a stylus. Perhaps that is why he is banned on the apple thread he mentioned.
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Well, the problem some people (such as myself) have with someone like you is not that you have a negative opinion on a product. The problem is you go above and beyond in your criticism. Allow me to explain.
So, you started out with having skipping problems. So, adonit sent you 2 replacement discs (or more than that). You claimed to still have skipping problems so adonit was more than willing to take your jot back and gave you a full refund. Listen, I'm in my late 20s and I can assure you that based on my experience that's as good as customer service can ever get in this world. Be glad that there's a CS rep here who is very interactive with their customers. Most companies would just ignore your inquiries. I often make this comparison.
Would you rather adonit be like most other companies where all your complaints fall on deaf ears?
You're also ignoring the vast majority of us who have never had a problem with the jot. This is why when my friend asked me which stylus he should get I showed him the jot. For me, I barely have to put any pressure on it when I write. The response is simply put phenomenal for me. But when my friend tried it on his TF, it skipped like a mofo. When I tried it on his TF, worked just fine.
We then tried did a series of experiments. Same TF, same jot, same angle, different user. Each and every time when I use the jot with barely any pressure the response is instantaneous. But when my friend tried to use it, it skipped like a mofo.
Our experiments are perfect proof that different styli work for different people. Our working theory is different people have different electrostatic potential.
You, sir, are the reason why so far I've turned away more than half the people who have contacted me for modifying the dock and soldering in a 500 gb hard drive. You're also the reason why I quit my job as a cop. When you whine, you really really whine.
One person even demanded some kind of warranty from me for the mod of his dock. Am I glad I didn't even consider his offer, which was like $30 below my offer to college students. I just told him I was no longer doing it so he could go away. Thankfully, he did go away.
So, I don't mind you criticize the adonit jot. I really don't. I think it is healthy that we have choice in our lives. So, criticize all you want. What I have a problem with is you exaggerate the problem, ignore all the customer service that you received, and then whine nonstop.
You remind me of that Judge in DC that sued the Korean couple who supposedly lost his pants in their dry cleaning business for $54 million. In fact, perhaps that is you.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/25/AR2007062500443.html
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And no, I don't work for adonit. I don't think they'd have any use for a structural engineer like myself.
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tonyz3 said:
This is not the only thread about the jot that Jon is spamming.....One he already got kicked off.
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Spamming? Are you like rain man or something? You can't tell the difference between answering an inquiry and spamming? Someone stated he was wondering about something or other and Fort answered his inquiry. How is that spamming?
Again, would you rather deal with a company that responds directly to you when you ask for something or would you rather deal with a company that acts more like god? Pray all you want, god works in mysterious ways...