So I finally figured out how to root my phone. I've installed the google market and it's great to have access to that, as well as other google apps. But now I'm wondering- what's next?
What are the things I can (and should) do with a rooted Nook Tablet? Finding a way to block OTA updates is my number 1 priority, but I'm also curious about what else I can do now that I couldn't do before.
I've been browsing threads trying to find the answer, but there's so much dense info out there now that it's pretty baffling. I'm seeing a lot of words like "superuser" and "permissions" and stuff being thrown around, but I have no real idea what that stuff means.
Can anyone maybe briefly go over the essential stuff that newly rooted tablet users should be looking into? A jumping off point would be really helpful. There's just so much info out there and new rooters (such as myself) could use a entry point before jumping in the pool.
Also, I've heard that once you're rooted, you can remove usless barnes and noble stuff that slows your tablet down. Is this really recommended? The tablet seems pretty fast, but could it move faster if I took off the B&N stuff? And if so- can this be easily done?
Much obliged to anyone who may have thoughts on this.
jimmysuggs said:
So I finally figured out how to root my phone. I've installed the google market and it's great to have access to that, as well as other google apps. But now I'm wondering- what's next?
What are the things I can (and should) do with a rooted Nook Tablet? Finding a way to block OTA updates is my number 1 priority, but I'm also curious about what else I can do now that I couldn't do before.
I've been browsing threads trying to find the answer, but there's so much dense info out there now that it's pretty baffling. I'm seeing a lot of words like "superuser" and "permissions" and stuff being thrown around, but I have no real idea what that stuff means.
Can anyone maybe briefly go over the essential stuff that newly rooted tablet users should be looking into? A jumping off point would be really helpful. There's just so much info out there and new rooters (such as myself) could use a entry point before jumping in the pool.
Also, I've heard that once you're rooted, you can remove usless barnes and noble stuff that slows your tablet down. Is this really recommended? The tablet seems pretty fast, but could it move faster if I took off the B&N stuff? And if so- can this be easily done?
Much obliged to anyone who may have thoughts on this.
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See these threads for other programs people feel are essential:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1353040
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1348264
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1366024
And Indirect (I think) had a thread about removing B&N bloatware.
jimmysuggs said:
So I finally figured out how to root my phone. I've installed the google market and it's great to have access to that, as well as other google apps. But now I'm wondering- what's next?
What are the things I can (and should) do with a rooted Nook Tablet? Finding a way to block OTA updates is my number 1 priority, but I'm also curious about what else I can do now that I couldn't do before.
I've been browsing threads trying to find the answer, but there's so much dense info out there now that it's pretty baffling. I'm seeing a lot of words like "superuser" and "permissions" and stuff being thrown around, but I have no real idea what that stuff means.
Can anyone maybe briefly go over the essential stuff that newly rooted tablet users should be looking into? A jumping off point would be really helpful. There's just so much info out there and new rooters (such as myself) could use a entry point before jumping in the pool.
Also, I've heard that once you're rooted, you can remove usless barnes and noble stuff that slows your tablet down. Is this really recommended? The tablet seems pretty fast, but could it move faster if I took off the B&N stuff? And if so- can this be easily done?
Much obliged to anyone who may have thoughts on this.
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Hi, I am glad you took the leap to root your Nook Tablet, it is a wonderful device that can do a lot with app side loading and root enable.
However, please follow the forum rule for posting, this is a developer's forum reserved for discussion on Nook Tablet (NT) hacking and developments, and not for general user Q&A. There are the Nook Tablet General and Nook Tablet Themes and Apps forums that are setup for general Q&A purposes, please post in those forum with your question instead, you will get more helpful information and user support from those 2 forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1395
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1398
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And Indirect (I think) had a thread about removing B&N bloatware.
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The thread you're referring to is called "[WIP]Nook-Debloater[Dev]" and it's down the list of posts in this forum. I'd link, but as this is my second post, I don't have that ability yet. There is supposed to be a Bash script that will delete all the .apk files for you, but for now you'll either have to do that manually from the command line or wait.
Perhaps a mod can move this to the proper forum.
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The thread you're referring to is called "[WIP]Nook-Debloater[Dev]" and it's down the list of posts in this forum. I'd link, but as this is my second post, I don't have that ability yet. There is supposed to be a Bash script that will delete all the .apk files for you, but for now you'll either have to do that manually from the command line or wait.
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Here you go:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1366386
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However, please follow the forum rule for posting, this is a developer's forum reserved for discussion on Nook Tablet (NT) hacking and developments, and not for general user Q&A.
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Sorry, I actually thought I was in the general Q&A section when I posted this question but I see I was wrong.
Can the thread maybe be moved?
In the meantime, many thanks to folks who have provided input thus far, I really appreciate it.
A few things I did after rooting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdHITAD4M3Y
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A few things I did after rooting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdHITAD4M3Y
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Where can I download that home/back button you have on the right? Seems pretty handy for the Nook.
Thanks in advance
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blackbird 80 said:
Where can I download that home/back button you have on the right? Seems pretty handy for the Nook.
Thanks in advance
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You can find it on Android Market, search for com.smart.swkey (I'm still a noob, so the forum doesn't let me post links)
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You can find it on Android Market, search for com.smart.swkey (I'm still a noob, so the forum doesn't let me post links)
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Thanks allot! Works perfect for me.
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150pilot said:
A few things I did after rooting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdHITAD4M3Y
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Very nice. Which version of Crackle did you install? I found an apk and installed but kept getting a "not compatible with your device" message.
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jimmysuggs said:
Sorry, I actually thought I was in the general Q&A section when I posted this question but I see I was wrong.
Can the thread maybe be moved?
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Thread moved to general
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Thanks for post - helped me out a bit when I customized my tablet
Any time someone says " I rooted my device, now what do I do?", the best answer is to unroot it. Superuser Permissions is a tool used to bypass the safeties built into Android OS. The whole point of root is to bypass all security measures. If you don't know why you need root, then you don't need root. It's a security risk. Once you're rooted, it's easy for a malicious app to screw up your device.
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Any time someone says " I rooted my device, now what do I do?", the best answer is to unroot it. Superuser Permissions is a tool used to bypass the safeties built into Android OS. The whole point of root is to bypass all security measures. If you don't know why you need root, then you don't need root. It's a security risk. Once you're rooted, it's easy for a malicious app to screw up your device.
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+1 Totally spot on. Most people *don't* need to root. If it's confusing, don't do it! Install whatever applications you want from an SD card - the majority *will work.* You bought a media device so have fun with it! The ones that don't work tend to be other tools to help you manage rooted devices, heh (and keyboards, bah!). The default for most apps isn't too bad though on this device (including keyboard).
AdamOutler said:
Any time someone says " I rooted my device, now what do I do?", the best answer is to unroot it. Superuser Permissions is a tool used to bypass the safeties built into Android OS. The whole point of root is to bypass all security measures. If you don't know why you need root, then you don't need root. It's a security risk. Once you're rooted, it's easy for a malicious app to screw up your device.
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Ever try running zergRush on a device rooted with zergRush, just to get adb running under root?
You can't, you have to su to do it. At least I can't on my nook.
Usually rooted devices are more secure imho ;-) If they were secure to begin with then they couldn't be rooted, odds are rooting plugs at least one security hole. A good rootkit will plug it's own exploit anyhow.
Of course that depends on the user not to blindly click yes whenever it asks for superuser permission, but the requirement of having rooted your device to begin which likely weeds a bit of that out....maybe...
AdamOutler said:
Any time someone says " I rooted my device, now what do I do?", the best answer is to unroot it.
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I find this to be a rather closed minded statement. It's like telling someone they shouldn't ever try to fix their own car. This is how we LEARN things. Asking questions, taking chances. Granted there's a learning curve and granted you take risks when you root your tablet, but the fact remains that if you don't take risks, you gain nothing. And I think the "you don't know what you're doing so don't even try" attitude is pointless and slightly offensive.
The idea is to LEARN and GROW and gain insight into the inner workings of the android system. Not only for our own benefit, but for the benefit of others, so we can pass that knowledge along. If the only people allowed access to that info are the people that already have it- this little circle of friends is going to die out rather quickly.
Instead of assuming people are too stupid to learn how and why to root, why not lend a helping hand to those seeking knowledge and guidance?
Just something to consider.
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I am very Noob in this, but I have questions that I am sure that are gonna help a lot of people.
I am going to buy a cheap e-reader/tablet, and I have seen that the two best options are Nook Tablet and Kindle Fire.
The difference between the prices is 50USD, and I accept them. But I want to permanent root my device, so, the question is:
If I permanent root the Nook Tablet, will I be able to access all the device memory? Because without rooting it is limited to 1GB.. Will I be able to put for example 4gb of video without MicroSD?
Because if I cant access all the storage, I will have to buy a 16gb microSD.. So the difference between the two devices will be about 80USD, which is quite a lot.
The other questions are: Can you really access the Android Market and download apps if you root the Nook Tablet?
What does that means that the bootloader in the Nook tablet is locked? Is the rooting going to be unstable for that?
Thank you very much.
All these questions have been answered to other threads. Please read or search for them.
xdahgary said:
All these questions have been answered to other threads. Please read or search for them.
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I have been in a lot of forums, and I know perfectly that before you ask, you have to search for your questions. I have been about half hours looking for them, and I have found different answers, so I need the real one.
Some answers say that you can only access all the memory for the installed apps, but not for all the medias.. others say that you always need a MicroSD card.. so, tell me please, which of those threads is the truth?
skipped said:
Some answers say that you can only access all the memory for the installed apps, but not for all the medias.. others say that you always need a MicroSD card.. so, tell me please, which of those threads is the truth?
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The first one. You install to the internal, and can make folders (I suggest putting them in data or media, and not anywhere in the main directory) anywhere. Downloads from other app stores and ebook stores save all over the place, but usually by default to an SD card. Just learn to use a file manager and expect to root it.
It's easier to get every other application/store/video to run on a rooted Nook Tablet (compared to a KF), but it'll be much easier to make custom roms for a Kindle Fire due to the bootloader. What this means is that: if you have a kindle, you will sit around fiddling with rooting and unrooting if you want their Instant Video to work, until a whole new rom (entire OS overhaul) is available. In comparison you can root a Nook Tablet, and put whatever you want on it and run it and most things will work (if they're tablet apps, and depending on what stores you use), but it will be much harder to load a new OS on it, if ever. For someone who wants to hack and mod a tablet, they will want to do it on a device that is supports it (KF). For someone that wants to read books, play games, watch videos, read comics, very easily right off the bat (with 10 min of work), the Nook Tablet is better (and has a few important higher specs).
And the suggestion to find the many threads that answer your question wasn't "go out there and find other forums with lots of conflicting answers" but *SCROLL DOWN.*
skipped said:
I am very Noob in this, but I have questions that I am sure that are gonna help a lot of people.
I am going to buy a cheap e-reader/tablet, and I have seen that the two best options are Nook Tablet and Kindle Fire.
The difference between the prices is 50USD, and I accept them. But I want to permanent root my device, so, the question is:
If I permanent root the Nook Tablet, will I be able to access all the device memory? Because without rooting it is limited to 1GB.. Will I be able to put for example 4gb of video without MicroSD?
Because if I cant access all the storage, I will have to buy a 16gb microSD.. So the difference between the two devices will be about 80USD, which is quite a lot.
The other questions are: Can you really access the Android Market and download apps if you root the Nook Tablet?
What does that means that the bootloader in the Nook tablet is locked? Is the rooting going to be unstable for that?
Thank you very much.
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There are definitive answers, so I don't know that you've searched all that much. However, to answer some of your questions:
Yes, you can install the market once rooted, and the bootloader being locked means that the simplest solutions for installing new ROMs will not work. People are trying workarounds at the moment, but there is no ETA. This has no bearing on having the device rooted.
I think it is also important to mention that until a verified means of preventing OTA updates to the system is created, it is possible your device to become un-rooted after it updates itself.
So far, I have seen no sure-fire ways to prevent the NT from updating itself - only guesses. So your "permanent root" may not be so permanent for the time being.
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Means custom roms can't be created as of yet. Give it time.
Why do so many people keep repeating "over the air updates may remove root..." Maybe it will, maybe it won't. You must accept an OTA update. If you are worried about root, don't accept the update until you know what it will do. Seems simple to me.
Is there even a patch for the zergrush expolit?
dkb218 said:
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Means custom roms can't be created as of yet. Give it time.
Why do so many people keep repeating "over the air updates may remove root..." Maybe it will, maybe it won't. You must accept an OTA update. If you are worried about root, don't accept the update until you know what it will do. Seems simple to me.
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For the KF at least, its coming in the form of silent updates. Once you're on wifi, the update is pushed down.
Honestly its a hazard of the game until we have different roms. If they plug the hole, they plug it. I'm holding out for the ROM solution, regardless of elegant/inelegant the solution proves to be.
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JoeM01 said:
For the KF at least, its coming in the form of silent updates. Once you're on wifi, the update is pushed down.
Honestly its a hazard of the game until we have different roms. If they plug the hole, they plug it. I'm holding out for the ROM solution, regardless of elegant/inelegant the solution proves to be.
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True enough. Often inelegant=most effective. Same when I first rooted my TF101. Used the ADB root. Which meant I had to self-teach ADB. Best thing that happened as not only I achieved root but learned something new that has helped with other devices.
dkb218 said:
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Means custom roms can't be created as of yet. Give it time.
Why do so many people keep repeating "over the air updates may remove root..." Maybe it will, maybe it won't. You must accept an OTA update. If you are worried about root, don't accept the update until you know what it will do. Seems simple to me.
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If the NT does OTA updates like the NC there is no prompt to accept the update, just a message that the update occurred. It is not the same as a phone.
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Hey everyone, I figured I’d start this thread as a one stop shop for anything major related to the Nook Tablet. Use it, like it, hate it… it’s up to you. I’ll add more as they come out. I’m going to put this in the General forum since it’ll contain a little bit of everything. I'll clean this up as more happens but for now, it is what it is. Oh, and if you don't like this post, go somewhere else... no need to hate in here.
General Information
Wallpaper Size is 840x1024
Press N and volDown for a screenshot
Amazon App Store will only download apps to an SD Card.
Factory reset - Turn off, turn on while holding N
Factory restore - Power down, then power up and interrupt boot cycle 10 times.
The Nook Tablet can't connect to Ad-hoc networks so if you're trying to wireless tether to your phone, go to /system/app and remove tetheringmanager.apk. Then go to Settings > Wireless and Network > Mobile AP and use the stock program. I tested it with my NT and a Samsung Infuse and it works.
Links
Rooting
Full Permanent Root (TY Indirect) - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1354487
One-click Unroot (TY Indirect) - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1380235
Mac and Linux Nook Automated Rooting System (TY Loglud) - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1383480
Apps/Tools
Build.prop Mods (TY diamond_lover) - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1390093
HomeCatcher Tool – Redirects N button to any Launcher (TY gojimi) - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1356206
Side-loaded App APKs - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19485574&postcount=5. I've also added them at http://nooktabletapks.com/
Google Apps and Google Market Install Directions - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1354887
Installing Alternative Keyboard (Requires Root) (TY robertely) - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1360036
How to Sideload Apps (TY akaCat) - http://liliputing.com/2011/11/how-to-sideload-apps-on-the-nook-tablet-amazon-appstore-go-launcher-ex.html
How to add apps to the stock app and home screens (use App Manager - link is to APK) - http://suipre.com/c49e34
Driver fix for nook tablet (for when you follow instructions exactly) (TY indirect) - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1363652
[FIX] adhoc wifi Nook Tablet 0.6.10 tiwlan0 (allows NT to connect to adhoc networks) (TY zambien) - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1370955
Block OTA Updates (TY indirect) - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1405418
How to install Live Wallpaper - http://forums.techarena.in/portable-devices/1441887.htm
Walkthrough Videos
Coming soon...
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Redundant information. People should learn to use the search function that is in the upper right corner of the page. That is what is wrong with society today. They expect someone to hand them the answer.
Wow. The air must be thin up there on your high horse.
Sorry, but i don't agree with your position on this. Search can be very clunky and you may have to wade through pages to find what you need. And a relative noob like me needs to know WHAT to search for. I find this post to be pretty useful and I applaud the OP for taking the time to do it.
Searching is good, but I appreciate one stop shops. Good effort.
hwong96 said:
Redundant information. People should learn to use the search function that is in the upper right corner of the page. That is what is wrong with society today. They expect someone to hand them the answer.
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Whoa, throttle back a little hwong, he's just helping people out.
When I bought my phone last year, it had already been out for 6 months. And when I looked to learn about rooting, I was a year behind the development crowd. It took me two months to sift through 12 months of threads to gather all the relevant information.
We need a reference thread so that us little people can come along and find all the up-to-date information. You know as well as I, hopefully, that in 6 months much of this "redundant information" will be out of date information and we need a way to keep it straight.
So thank you spoland.
Uphill both ways in the snow!
Seriously, the problem with search is that it only works if you know the answer! Really.
Posts like this should be stickied. Good work.
dmoisan said:
Uphill both ways in the snow!
Seriously, the problem with search is that it only works if you know the answer! Really.
Posts like this should be stickied. Good work.
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I know a lot of the cell phone threads have them and even though we're not super far into pushing what the Nook Tablet is capable of, we'll get there eventually and this is a great starting point.
hwong96 said:
Redundant information. People should learn to use the search function that is in the upper right corner of the page. That is what is wrong with society today. They expect someone to hand them the answer.
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Does anyone else think it ironic that hwong96 comes to XDA to get answers that are pretty much handed to him? Did he have to do the work? No. Someone else did and he was spoon fed the answers. Yet for some reason, "Mr. Whats Wrong With The World" here feels that having a thread like this will destroy the world. Seems every single device has a thread like this. Information is fragmented. Its a good thing to have it all in on place.
Here's a suggestion. Instead of capitalizing on the world of XDA developers, figure it all out on your own. No teachers. No Schools. No books - I guess having knowledge in books will destroy the world also. Just get a device and figure it all out.
dkb218 said:
Here's a suggestion. Instead of capitalizing on the world of XDA developers, figure it all out on your own. No teachers. No Schools. No books - I guess having knowledge in books will destroy the world also. Just get a device and figure it all out.
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Maybe hwong lives in a Fahrenheit 451 world, his info is orthodox and ours is heresy. That reminds me of how Steve Jobs operated.
dkb218 said:
Just get a device and figure it all out.
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I did it without a device, teacher, books, or school. Problem??
Indirect said:
I did it without a device, teacher, books, or school. Problem??
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Sure you did. You were born into the world with knowledge of how Andorid works. Must have been a long flight in your space orb from planet Krypton there Indirect. I realize you rooted a NT at a B&N location. Still you had to get some understanding of Android from someplace. If you can look at a device and know exactly how to root it, then where is my unlocked bootloader, tuff guy? [and before the little indirect groupies jump all over me for daring to talk to you in such a way - humor people!]
A couple odds and ends that might be useful:
Wallpaper size is 840x1024
Press n and volDown for a screenshot.
The amazon app store will only download apps to an SD card.
How to sideload apps: http://liliputing.com/2011/11/how-t...ok-tablet-amazon-appstore-go-launcher-ex.html
App Manager makes it possible to add sideloaded apps to the stock app and home screens. (Someone linked to their copy here, but maybe it should be uploaded elsewhere as well.)
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Sure you did. You were born into the world with knowledge of how Andorid works. Must have been a long flight in your space orb from planet Krypton there Indirect. I realize you rooted a NT at a B&N location. Still you had to get some understanding of Android from someplace. If you can look at a device and know exactly how to root it, then where is my unlocked bootloader, tuff guy? [and before the little indirect groupies jump all over me for daring to talk to you in such a way - humor people!]
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Haha, i was kidding. I did learn in silence for a year before i started being a dev so yeah. I learned from somewhere. Most of it was self taught through experimentation also, good job on making me laugh.
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One-click Unroot (TY Indirect) - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1380235
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This is no longer available . Now if we need to unroot, how do we do that? Other than doing a factory restore...
It might be useful to add info on how to do re-image/factory restore: here and here.
tkanne said:
This is no longer available . Now if we need to unroot, how do we do that? Other than doing a factory restore...
It might be useful to add info on how to do re-image/factory restore: here and here.
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Unroot application is back without the issue of having another developer make it. You can just thank me this time around. But yeah, I recreated the app and now it even reboots properly.
The first post needs to be fixed. It mentions a factory restore as power off then power on + hold N. That is actually factory reset (data wipe) and is not a factory restore.
Factory restore is power down, then power up and interrupt boot cycle 10 times. This takes it back to a stock NT. I think people need to know the difference as a factory reset does not fix most problems people are having, whereas a restore does.
And, would be good to have a thread like this stickied
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The first post needs to be fixed. It mentions a factory restore as power off then power on + hold N. That is actually factory reset (data wipe) and is not a factory restore.
Factory restore is power down, then power up and interrupt boot cycle 10 times. This takes it back to a stock NT. I think people need to know the difference as a factory reset does not fix most problems people are having, whereas a restore does.
And, would be good to have a thread like this stickied
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Fixing it now. Sorry about that. I put that in right before going to bed and was a little out of it.
Hi you guys,
This is a great thread, but seems like you forgot the "2nd-init" ?
I just wanna know what we can do with this method until now ?
sorry for my bad english
have a nice day.
insafon said:
Hi you guys,
This is a great thread, but seems like you forgot the "2nd-init" ?
I just wanna know what we can do with this method until now ?
sorry for my bad english
have a nice day.
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I considered putting the link to 2nd-init in but because it will only help a smaller portion of ppl in here (primarily devs), I'll leave it out for now.
Added adhoc wifi fix to the list. If there is anything else major that I am forgetting, please let me know.
I had rooted my Nook Color and then was running CM7 off the SD card. Eventually, the screen had issues, so I returned it (still under warranty) and got the Nook Tablet. I'm pretty much liking it stock, but would like to root it. (Ideally, I'd like to run an OS off the SD card again, but I understand that's not available yet.) I'm a little lost with all the different threads and links floating around. I want to be sure I'm using the latest, and most problem-free, method.
Can someone point me to the latest, and easiest, rooting link? Indirect's, yes?
Thanks, Lori
loribuono said:
I had rooted my Nook Color and then was running CM7 off the SD card. Eventually, the screen had issues, so I returned it (still under warranty) and got the Nook Tablet. I'm pretty much liking it stock, but would like to root it. (Ideally, I'd like to run an OS off the SD card again, but I understand that's not available yet.) I'm a little lost with all the different threads and links floating around. I want to be sure I'm using the latest, and most problem-free, method.
Can someone point me to the latest, and easiest, rooting link? Indirect's, yes?
Thanks, Lori
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use indirect's root if you still want to keep the B&N experience (apps, books, etc)
use snowball mod if you want an almost pure android tablet (B&N is basically removed)
i like snowball mod cause i don't really use B&N services and it gets rid of bloatware which is always nice...
There is a thread that was just created for Noobs...just read that thread, very informative.
Edit: core is for...sorry spell checker
Core noobs? What does that mean? Obviously, I know what noobs mean, but not sure what you're referring to. Do you have a link?
loribuono said:
Core noobs? What does that mean? Obviously, I know what noobs mean, but not sure what you're referring to. Do you have a link?
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There is a sticky thread in this forum with FAQ's.
jesus people provide the link at least without it, its not helping...
they might be referring to this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1415812
also this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1363334
I'm sure he meant "for noobs"
and I think this is the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1415812
you beat me to it Doctorword..
ha! no biggie glad there was another person helping
Fixed it with spell checker....Noob means newbie or someone who is new to a particular thing.
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Doctorword said:
jesus people provide the link at least without it, its not helping...
they might be referring to this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1415812
also this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1363334
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I don't like to hold hands for anyone. Yes we were all new to things but before you jump in the water you should learn how to swim. People get on these forums, see root files and jump in and when they are drowning or have drowned expect to get a quick fix which isn't fair to those who do their homework and research...just saying. If I'm posting from my phone or tablet, I don't go out of my way to provide links; hence the reason I say search.
If I post asking a question it's after I did all my homework and once I don't locate, I'll ask because no one knows all the anwers.
man, sometime i think it is more effort for us to copy and past a link than it is for noobs to just take the initiative to read... ><; Not to take it out on this one poster, but i have seen many people post a question like "hey everyone I am new, update me on whats going on"... instead of just reading.
First, let me say, "Thank you," for your video, which was very helpful.
In response to what you wrote, I do read. I read quite a bit. Perhaps you've forgotten what it's like to learn something in a language you don't speak. When you're new to this stuff, every single thing you read contains something you don't understand. And you look things up and look things up, until you've got 20 windows open on different topics, in the hope that you can piece it all together, and remember what you were looking up in the first place. If I've spent more than 45 minutes merely trying to "find" the information I need, which is no small task with a search feature that doesn't let you search phrases, and another couple of hours sifting through the confusing information, I don't think it's a stretch to then turn to those in the know, on a newbie forum, for help.
Again, I appreciate very much what you guys (and girls) do. But you post it up here for people to use.
I don't know about other newbies, but sometimes I feel like I'm going to be flogged if I don't word things the right way or perform the prerequisite quantity of searching beforehand. I do my best.
Again, thanks to those of you who have helped me out.
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man, sometime i think it is more effort for us to copy and past a link than it is for noobs to just take the initiative to read... ><; Not to take it out on this one poster, but i have seen many people post a question like "hey everyone I am new, update me on whats going on"... instead of just reading.
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I'm posting from my phone and providing a link would be a LOT of work, so excuse my lack of linking.
There was a new method posted up that allows you to keep root and update to 1.4.1. The problem is that 1.4.1 will not allow sideloading from the browser, and the author doesn't hold your hand through the whole process. Its nowhere near as nooblet friendly as Indirects root method.
The learning curve is STEEP, some of us are still working on it. The faq sticky is AWESOME and has a ton of link to helpful stuff, incuding my own ADB guide.
Thanks for the new info!
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I'm posting from my phone and providing a link would be a LOT of work, so excuse my lack of linking.
There was a new method posted up that allows you to keep root and update to 1.4.1. The problem is that 1.4.1 will not allow sideloading from the browser, and the author doesn't hold your hand through the whole process. Its nowhere near as nooblet friendly as Indirects root method.
The learning curve is STEEP, some of us are still working on it. The faq sticky is AWESOME and has a ton of link to helpful stuff, incuding my own ADB guide.
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This is in reply to the message, "[ROM] Stock 1.4.0 & 1.4.2 + Root + Mods - GO Launcher [Yes/No B&N|Rebloat Pack]" in the Dev forum. I can't get the file, "NT_stock_1.4.0_Ribbon_Root_v2 .zip", I get a message that "d3.minus.com" is down. If someone could look at this, I'd appreciate it.
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Is there a particular reason you want this particular root? I know it has some extra perks, like some "debloating", but it's not a huge difference from the other root methods.
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Is there a particular reason you want this particular root? I know it has some extra perks, like some "debloating", but it's not a huge difference from the other root methods.
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Why do I have to have a reason for wanting it? This thread is near the top of the non-sticky threads in the Dev section, and yet the main file referenced in the thread is inaccessible. Kind of defeats the purpose of the whole thread.
Of course you don't have to have a reason. I was just trying to be helpful by pointing out that there are alternatives. You're asking for oldish rather big file and it would mean someone would have to make a bit of an effort to help you and maybe they'd be more inclined if they know you had made an informed choice and just not jumped on the first train you saw. Believe me, it happens way to often here!
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Just throwing this out there but it seems this Vroot program works to root the MJ7 build, but some say it may be harmful. Isn't there a way to look at the program to see how it is accomplishing root and make a "safe program" that isn't Chinese? No idea here cause i'm to noobish but just saying.
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Just throwing this out there but it seems this Vroot program works to root the MJ7 build, but some say it may be harmful. Isn't there a way to look at the program to see how it is accomplishing root and make a "safe program" that isn't Chinese? No idea here cause i'm to noobish but just saying.
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There's already plenty of threads discussing this. "Noobish" is not a valid excuse for not reading first.
A little reading goes a long way.
k1mu said:
There's already plenty of threads discussing this. "Noobish" is not a valid excuse for not reading first.
A little reading goes a long way.
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lame
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lame
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Most of the people who could answer that for you know the answer because they read the forums
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Yup, I agree. It was. Hopefully you'll avoid tripping over banned topics in the future.
Pretty sure the topic of vroot isn't banned, just links.
Also the latest version isn't chinese.
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Most of the people who could answer that for you know the answer because they read the forums
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Can either of you smart folks post a link to a thread where someone is using a dissassembler or sniffer like softice, ida pro, diver to look at what vroot is requesting on the pc side? Seems that these two root programs have found a usable exploit that gets around knox, selinux, etc, but have been found to request a little too much during the process. I've been reading the forums and searched around, but if you know where this is being discussed please link. Thanks in advance
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Can either of you smart folks post a link to a thread where someone is using a dissassembler or sniffer like softice, ida pro, diver to look at what vroot is requesting on the pc side? Seems that these two root programs have found a usable exploit that gets around knox, selinux, etc, but have been found to request a little too much during the process. I've been reading the forums and searched around, but if you know where this is being discussed please link. Thanks in advance
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OK, I'll try to be more helpful.
The issue is that vroot is pulling things from the network over an encrypted connection, so it's going to be hard to grab the content of what it's downloading to the phone. I don't know if it's downloading directly to the phone or creating temporary disk files with the exploit. If the latter, then it would be possible to keep it from deleting those files and disassemble them. However, the only way you're going to know is to let it run and that's a bit too scary for me.
Another possibility - probably more useful - would be to capture all of the USB traffic between the PC and the phone. I've looked into software that supports that and just need to find some time to play around. Once we know what's being pushed to the phone, it's possible to reverse engineer it.
There's a few threads discussing vroot, but nothing so far that I've found where there's an organized effort to reverse it.
So far, my attempts at rooting not using vroot have been failures. I'm still trying to get something to work, but I fear that SELinux is going to defeat me.
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The issue is that vroot is pulling things from the network over an encrypted connection, so it's going to be hard to grab the content of what it's downloading to the phone. I don't know if it's downloading directly to the phone or creating temporary disk files with the exploit. If the latter, then it would be possible to keep it from deleting those files and disassemble them. However, the only way you're going to know is to let it run and that's a bit too scary for me
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Thanks, didn't think about that
I used it myself on an S4 from ebay (came with mj7). Used the following
Factory reset on s4
No sim inserted
No wifi credentials given
d/l vroot and ran in sandboxie
after root I actually used a burner gmail for play store instead of mine
probably could have sideloaded the terminal apk instead, doh
moved the mrw folder over and ran the terminal commands from the video
If I had sideloaded the terminal emulator, I could have kept the phone from any network connection the whole time. Didn't actually need to connect to wifi until after reboot and superuser replacement with supersu
Only point being, whatever it pulls in goes through the computer as I had no connection on the s4 whilst running it, so usb sniffing should go a long way
Thanks again for the clarification
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Only point being, whatever it pulls in goes through the computer as I had no connection on the s4 whilst running it, so usb sniffing should go a long way
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Thanks - that's helpful information.
If I ever do this, it's going to be with wireshark capturing all of the network packets and something capturing the USB traffic. Hopefully that would be enough to reverse engineer whatever it's doing.