I am very Noob in this, but I have questions that I am sure that are gonna help a lot of people.
I am going to buy a cheap e-reader/tablet, and I have seen that the two best options are Nook Tablet and Kindle Fire.
The difference between the prices is 50USD, and I accept them. But I want to permanent root my device, so, the question is:
If I permanent root the Nook Tablet, will I be able to access all the device memory? Because without rooting it is limited to 1GB.. Will I be able to put for example 4gb of video without MicroSD?
Because if I cant access all the storage, I will have to buy a 16gb microSD.. So the difference between the two devices will be about 80USD, which is quite a lot.
The other questions are: Can you really access the Android Market and download apps if you root the Nook Tablet?
What does that means that the bootloader in the Nook tablet is locked? Is the rooting going to be unstable for that?
Thank you very much.
All these questions have been answered to other threads. Please read or search for them.
xdahgary said:
All these questions have been answered to other threads. Please read or search for them.
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I have been in a lot of forums, and I know perfectly that before you ask, you have to search for your questions. I have been about half hours looking for them, and I have found different answers, so I need the real one.
Some answers say that you can only access all the memory for the installed apps, but not for all the medias.. others say that you always need a MicroSD card.. so, tell me please, which of those threads is the truth?
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Some answers say that you can only access all the memory for the installed apps, but not for all the medias.. others say that you always need a MicroSD card.. so, tell me please, which of those threads is the truth?
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The first one. You install to the internal, and can make folders (I suggest putting them in data or media, and not anywhere in the main directory) anywhere. Downloads from other app stores and ebook stores save all over the place, but usually by default to an SD card. Just learn to use a file manager and expect to root it.
It's easier to get every other application/store/video to run on a rooted Nook Tablet (compared to a KF), but it'll be much easier to make custom roms for a Kindle Fire due to the bootloader. What this means is that: if you have a kindle, you will sit around fiddling with rooting and unrooting if you want their Instant Video to work, until a whole new rom (entire OS overhaul) is available. In comparison you can root a Nook Tablet, and put whatever you want on it and run it and most things will work (if they're tablet apps, and depending on what stores you use), but it will be much harder to load a new OS on it, if ever. For someone who wants to hack and mod a tablet, they will want to do it on a device that is supports it (KF). For someone that wants to read books, play games, watch videos, read comics, very easily right off the bat (with 10 min of work), the Nook Tablet is better (and has a few important higher specs).
And the suggestion to find the many threads that answer your question wasn't "go out there and find other forums with lots of conflicting answers" but *SCROLL DOWN.*
skipped said:
I am very Noob in this, but I have questions that I am sure that are gonna help a lot of people.
I am going to buy a cheap e-reader/tablet, and I have seen that the two best options are Nook Tablet and Kindle Fire.
The difference between the prices is 50USD, and I accept them. But I want to permanent root my device, so, the question is:
If I permanent root the Nook Tablet, will I be able to access all the device memory? Because without rooting it is limited to 1GB.. Will I be able to put for example 4gb of video without MicroSD?
Because if I cant access all the storage, I will have to buy a 16gb microSD.. So the difference between the two devices will be about 80USD, which is quite a lot.
The other questions are: Can you really access the Android Market and download apps if you root the Nook Tablet?
What does that means that the bootloader in the Nook tablet is locked? Is the rooting going to be unstable for that?
Thank you very much.
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There are definitive answers, so I don't know that you've searched all that much. However, to answer some of your questions:
Yes, you can install the market once rooted, and the bootloader being locked means that the simplest solutions for installing new ROMs will not work. People are trying workarounds at the moment, but there is no ETA. This has no bearing on having the device rooted.
I think it is also important to mention that until a verified means of preventing OTA updates to the system is created, it is possible your device to become un-rooted after it updates itself.
So far, I have seen no sure-fire ways to prevent the NT from updating itself - only guesses. So your "permanent root" may not be so permanent for the time being.
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Means custom roms can't be created as of yet. Give it time.
Why do so many people keep repeating "over the air updates may remove root..." Maybe it will, maybe it won't. You must accept an OTA update. If you are worried about root, don't accept the update until you know what it will do. Seems simple to me.
Is there even a patch for the zergrush expolit?
dkb218 said:
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Means custom roms can't be created as of yet. Give it time.
Why do so many people keep repeating "over the air updates may remove root..." Maybe it will, maybe it won't. You must accept an OTA update. If you are worried about root, don't accept the update until you know what it will do. Seems simple to me.
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For the KF at least, its coming in the form of silent updates. Once you're on wifi, the update is pushed down.
Honestly its a hazard of the game until we have different roms. If they plug the hole, they plug it. I'm holding out for the ROM solution, regardless of elegant/inelegant the solution proves to be.
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JoeM01 said:
For the KF at least, its coming in the form of silent updates. Once you're on wifi, the update is pushed down.
Honestly its a hazard of the game until we have different roms. If they plug the hole, they plug it. I'm holding out for the ROM solution, regardless of elegant/inelegant the solution proves to be.
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True enough. Often inelegant=most effective. Same when I first rooted my TF101. Used the ADB root. Which meant I had to self-teach ADB. Best thing that happened as not only I achieved root but learned something new that has helped with other devices.
dkb218 said:
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Means custom roms can't be created as of yet. Give it time.
Why do so many people keep repeating "over the air updates may remove root..." Maybe it will, maybe it won't. You must accept an OTA update. If you are worried about root, don't accept the update until you know what it will do. Seems simple to me.
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If the NT does OTA updates like the NC there is no prompt to accept the update, just a message that the update occurred. It is not the same as a phone.
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I'm at a loss as to why development hasn't begun on rooting the Vizio tablet.
There have been a few hints thrown out by Vizio techs that rooting involves an sdcard.
Thoughts?
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Anyone in the dev community have one of these yet? I'm considering trying to root it myself but I'm still learning.
What has been required of rooting past devices?
Its been suggested that Gingerbreak and other conventional root methods have failed due to the odd internal memory/SD card directories..
Thoughts?
How do we get a dev or two interested in this device?
I also do not understand why the Vizio hasn't received more 'root' attention. Perhaps it is too recently released, perhaps the experts are busy working elsewhere, or maybe Honeycomb has enthralled the hackers leaving us wee Gingerbread users to fend for ourselves. Like your message suggests, it may be up to us neophytes.
I know Unix/Linux reasonably well enough, though I have no immediate knowledge of how to hack for root. So, I am also trying to learn what is needed. The crux of rooting is to find a method to get a process 'suid', a.k.a. root privilege. Once that is achieved the OS is rooted and sustained rooting can be done. At least that's my take on the process at the moment.
I have adb (Android Debug Bridge) working on my Win7/64 system. I've tried Gingerbreak-v1.20 and SuperOneClick-v2.1.1 with no success. So now it's a race between me and Vizio. Do I/we crack the OS or does Vizio bring out the Honeycomb version of Android for the VTAB1008?
Nelson
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I am guessing that vizio is probably throwing in the towel today as Amazon just ate their lunch. A $200 tablet that smokes our Vizios in every way imaginable.
The dev community will probably jump on the Amazon tablet as fast as possible, and pretty much everything else is toast.
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I also do not understand why the Vizio hasn't received more 'root' attention. Perhaps it is too recently released, perhaps the experts are busy working elsewhere, or maybe Honeycomb has enthralled the hackers leaving us wee Gingerbread users to fend for ourselves. Like your message suggests, it may be up to us neophytes.
I know Unix/Linux reasonably well enough, though I have no immediate knowledge of how to hack for root. So, I am also trying to learn what is needed. The crux of rooting is to find a method to get a process 'suid', a.k.a. root privilege. Once that is achieved the OS is rooted and sustained rooting can be done. At least that's my take on the process at the moment.
I have adb (Android Debug Bridge) working on my Win7/64 system. I've tried Gingerbreak-v1.20 and SuperOneClick-v2.1.1 with no success. So now it's a race between me and Vizio. Do I/we crack the OS or does Vizio bring out the Honeycomb version of Android for the VTAB1008?
Nelson
R2N2
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I'm interested in following your progress! Thank you for the reply.
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I am guessing that vizio is probably throwing in the towel today as Amazon just ate their lunch. A $200 tablet that smokes our Vizios in every way imaginable.
The dev community will probably jump on the Amazon tablet as fast as possible, and pretty much everything else is toast.
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Holy crap. Its dual core. I just looked it up.
Gonna preorder tonight. I'm still within my Vizio return period!
I just preordered a Kindle Fire.
I'm on the fence about returning my VTab. If it gets rooted, I'll be inclined to keep it.
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I am guessing that vizio is probably throwing in the towel today as Amazon just ate their lunch. A $200 tablet that smokes our Vizios in every way imaginable.
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"Every way imaginable?" Hardly. No camera. No SD card slot. No GPS. No Bluetooth? No access to the 'droid app store. Skinned and constrained to keep you on AOL... er, Amazon.
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*snort* Yeah, right.
Even were that true: The "dev community" is not the whole of the Android, much less the tablet, world. This may come as a shock: But some people actually just use their devices as-delivered, other than to install apps and add some hardware accessories.
Sorry if I'm coming across kinda harsh on my first post here, but breathless hyperbole seems to me better-suited to an American Idol or Big Brother web site, or perhaps a marketing or stock-trading forum, than to a development venue.
Jim
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"Every way imaginable?" Hardly. No camera. No SD card slot. No GPS. No Bluetooth? No access to the 'droid app store. Skinned and constrained to keep you on AOL... er, Amazon.
*snort* Yeah, right.
Even were that true: The "dev community" is not the whole of the Android, much less the tablet, world. This may come as a shock: But some people actually just use their devices as-delivered, other than to install apps and add some hardware accessories.
Sorry if I'm coming across kinda harsh on my first post here, but breathless hyperbole seems to me better-suited to an American Idol or Big Brother web site, or perhaps a marketing or stock-trading forum, than to a development venue.
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Wow, I ASSumed the Fire would have simple stuff like that.
Well, that explains the price. Why bother with a dual core proc and no supplemental features, like Bluetooth!!!
They really are trying to make it an IPad.
Interesting.
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They really are trying to make it an IPad.
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Not even in the same class. It's designed to be a Nook-killer.
I like Amazon well enough. Other than their free shipping has turned very lame, I've always been satisfied with them in every respect. But their overwhelming market dominance I think is bad juju, so my VTAB has only Nook installed, and I'll henceforth go first to B&N for my reading purchases.
Jim
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Not even in the same class. It's designed to be a Nook-killer.
I like Amazon well enough. Other than their free shipping has turned very lame, I've always been satisfied with them in every respect. But their overwhelming market dominance I think is bad juju, so my VTAB has only Nook installed, and I'll henceforth go first to B&N for my reading purchases.
Jim
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Every review I've seen is comparing it to the ipad, but I digress.
I have 50 books on Kindle and none on Nook. I don't think I could make the switch.
Back to rooting the VTab...
Any devs out there interested? I will buy you a case of your favorite beverage, within reason.
Bump for the night crew. The lack of intrest in development of this device is a mystery to me.
I wish I knew how to root stuff. This thing wants CM7 and setcpu soooo bad.
DetCochese,
I don't think you've been looking very hard: My quest to root my Vizio VTAB108 Tablet and how I enabled ADB access
That thread was on the first page of the Android Q&A forum for a goodly portion of yesterday.
Jim
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DetCochese,
I don't think you've been looking very hard: My quest to root my Vizio VTAB108 Tablet and how I enabled ADB access
That thread was on the first page of the Android Q&A forum for a goodly portion of yesterday.
Jim
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I am aware of both that thread and the one regarding booting into recovery.
Both of which are grassroots attempts by folks such as myself to obtain root. I applaud their efforts and wish them success.
That said Jim, my desire is to see interest in this device from well established platform developers, such as the Cyanogen Mod team.
DetCochese said:
I am aware of both that thread and the one regarding booting into recovery.
Both of which are grassroots attempts by folks such as myself to obtain root. I applaud their efforts and wish them success.
That said Jim, my desire is to see interest in this device from well established platform developers, such as the Cyanogen Mod team.
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Ah, ok. Sorry for the mis-impression.
Jim
jseymour said:
Ah, ok. Sorry for the mis-impression.
Jim
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No apology needed.
As soon as someone comes up with a way to reconfig the file structure of the SD card to /sd from /sd external or whatever abomination Vizio came up with, conventional root methods will succeed. At least that's my prediction.
I'm too much of a newb to know how to alter the /sd card file structure.
I just installed and PATH'd ADB 5 minutes ago.
Lunch time!
Iconia A100 uses "externalsd" too. Internal storage is /sdcard.
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Iconia A100 uses "externalsd" too. Internal storage is /sdcard.
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Has someone found a work around with that device yet that could help here???
This is from the Iconia A100 subforum on acertablet
Would this work with the VTab??
http://www.acertabletforum.com/foru...ssion/1167-rooting-iconia-a100-made-easy.html
Rooting Iconia A100 Made Easy
This is a method to root the Acer Iconia A100, as presently neither Gingerbreak, nor IconiaRoot 1.3 (or earlier versions) work. I used terminal (app from market, any will do), and performed the procedure below.
What you need:
A copy of superuser, bin file, NOT .apk...
http://downloads.androidsu.com/super...bin-signed.zip
Place this file in the root of INTERNAL SD (mnt/sdcard, not external SD), and unzip it into this same directory. Still at root, /mnt/sdcard, locate and click 'system' folder, then 'bin' folder, and copy the su file. Nav back to sdcard root (mnt/sdcard), and paste su file.
Busybox Installer (.apk from market)
Superuser (.apk from market) This will update the su file and install the Superuser app after rooting.
Titanium Backup (.apk from market) or ANY application for root, to check and ensure you are indeed rooted.
With the su file loaded to internal sd's root, open terminal.
Copy/Paste the following commands at the $ prompt:
/system/bin/cmdclient ec_micswitch '`mount -o remount,rw /system`'
/system/bin/cmdclient ec_micswitch '`cat /mnt/sdcard/su >/system/xbin/su`'
/system/bin/cmdclient ec_micswitch '`chmod 6755 /system/xbin/su`'
Once completed, install and open Busybox Installer.apk, and run the app to install Busybox. If it completes, you have root, if it fails, repeat the steps above.
Once busybox is installed, go ahead and install the other remaining apps, and 'Allow' when prompted for superuser access. Congrats! You've rooted your A100!!
Credit goes to several folks @ XDA, particularly: abliss, brendan802 and guags99
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So I finally figured out how to root my phone. I've installed the google market and it's great to have access to that, as well as other google apps. But now I'm wondering- what's next?
What are the things I can (and should) do with a rooted Nook Tablet? Finding a way to block OTA updates is my number 1 priority, but I'm also curious about what else I can do now that I couldn't do before.
I've been browsing threads trying to find the answer, but there's so much dense info out there now that it's pretty baffling. I'm seeing a lot of words like "superuser" and "permissions" and stuff being thrown around, but I have no real idea what that stuff means.
Can anyone maybe briefly go over the essential stuff that newly rooted tablet users should be looking into? A jumping off point would be really helpful. There's just so much info out there and new rooters (such as myself) could use a entry point before jumping in the pool.
Also, I've heard that once you're rooted, you can remove usless barnes and noble stuff that slows your tablet down. Is this really recommended? The tablet seems pretty fast, but could it move faster if I took off the B&N stuff? And if so- can this be easily done?
Much obliged to anyone who may have thoughts on this.
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So I finally figured out how to root my phone. I've installed the google market and it's great to have access to that, as well as other google apps. But now I'm wondering- what's next?
What are the things I can (and should) do with a rooted Nook Tablet? Finding a way to block OTA updates is my number 1 priority, but I'm also curious about what else I can do now that I couldn't do before.
I've been browsing threads trying to find the answer, but there's so much dense info out there now that it's pretty baffling. I'm seeing a lot of words like "superuser" and "permissions" and stuff being thrown around, but I have no real idea what that stuff means.
Can anyone maybe briefly go over the essential stuff that newly rooted tablet users should be looking into? A jumping off point would be really helpful. There's just so much info out there and new rooters (such as myself) could use a entry point before jumping in the pool.
Also, I've heard that once you're rooted, you can remove usless barnes and noble stuff that slows your tablet down. Is this really recommended? The tablet seems pretty fast, but could it move faster if I took off the B&N stuff? And if so- can this be easily done?
Much obliged to anyone who may have thoughts on this.
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See these threads for other programs people feel are essential:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1353040
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1348264
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1366024
And Indirect (I think) had a thread about removing B&N bloatware.
jimmysuggs said:
So I finally figured out how to root my phone. I've installed the google market and it's great to have access to that, as well as other google apps. But now I'm wondering- what's next?
What are the things I can (and should) do with a rooted Nook Tablet? Finding a way to block OTA updates is my number 1 priority, but I'm also curious about what else I can do now that I couldn't do before.
I've been browsing threads trying to find the answer, but there's so much dense info out there now that it's pretty baffling. I'm seeing a lot of words like "superuser" and "permissions" and stuff being thrown around, but I have no real idea what that stuff means.
Can anyone maybe briefly go over the essential stuff that newly rooted tablet users should be looking into? A jumping off point would be really helpful. There's just so much info out there and new rooters (such as myself) could use a entry point before jumping in the pool.
Also, I've heard that once you're rooted, you can remove usless barnes and noble stuff that slows your tablet down. Is this really recommended? The tablet seems pretty fast, but could it move faster if I took off the B&N stuff? And if so- can this be easily done?
Much obliged to anyone who may have thoughts on this.
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Hi, I am glad you took the leap to root your Nook Tablet, it is a wonderful device that can do a lot with app side loading and root enable.
However, please follow the forum rule for posting, this is a developer's forum reserved for discussion on Nook Tablet (NT) hacking and developments, and not for general user Q&A. There are the Nook Tablet General and Nook Tablet Themes and Apps forums that are setup for general Q&A purposes, please post in those forum with your question instead, you will get more helpful information and user support from those 2 forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1395
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1398
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And Indirect (I think) had a thread about removing B&N bloatware.
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The thread you're referring to is called "[WIP]Nook-Debloater[Dev]" and it's down the list of posts in this forum. I'd link, but as this is my second post, I don't have that ability yet. There is supposed to be a Bash script that will delete all the .apk files for you, but for now you'll either have to do that manually from the command line or wait.
Perhaps a mod can move this to the proper forum.
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The thread you're referring to is called "[WIP]Nook-Debloater[Dev]" and it's down the list of posts in this forum. I'd link, but as this is my second post, I don't have that ability yet. There is supposed to be a Bash script that will delete all the .apk files for you, but for now you'll either have to do that manually from the command line or wait.
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Here you go:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1366386
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However, please follow the forum rule for posting, this is a developer's forum reserved for discussion on Nook Tablet (NT) hacking and developments, and not for general user Q&A.
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Sorry, I actually thought I was in the general Q&A section when I posted this question but I see I was wrong.
Can the thread maybe be moved?
In the meantime, many thanks to folks who have provided input thus far, I really appreciate it.
A few things I did after rooting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdHITAD4M3Y
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A few things I did after rooting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdHITAD4M3Y
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Where can I download that home/back button you have on the right? Seems pretty handy for the Nook.
Thanks in advance
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Where can I download that home/back button you have on the right? Seems pretty handy for the Nook.
Thanks in advance
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You can find it on Android Market, search for com.smart.swkey (I'm still a noob, so the forum doesn't let me post links)
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You can find it on Android Market, search for com.smart.swkey (I'm still a noob, so the forum doesn't let me post links)
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Thanks allot! Works perfect for me.
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A few things I did after rooting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdHITAD4M3Y
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Very nice. Which version of Crackle did you install? I found an apk and installed but kept getting a "not compatible with your device" message.
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jimmysuggs said:
Sorry, I actually thought I was in the general Q&A section when I posted this question but I see I was wrong.
Can the thread maybe be moved?
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Thread moved to general
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Thanks for post - helped me out a bit when I customized my tablet
Any time someone says " I rooted my device, now what do I do?", the best answer is to unroot it. Superuser Permissions is a tool used to bypass the safeties built into Android OS. The whole point of root is to bypass all security measures. If you don't know why you need root, then you don't need root. It's a security risk. Once you're rooted, it's easy for a malicious app to screw up your device.
AdamOutler said:
Any time someone says " I rooted my device, now what do I do?", the best answer is to unroot it. Superuser Permissions is a tool used to bypass the safeties built into Android OS. The whole point of root is to bypass all security measures. If you don't know why you need root, then you don't need root. It's a security risk. Once you're rooted, it's easy for a malicious app to screw up your device.
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+1 Totally spot on. Most people *don't* need to root. If it's confusing, don't do it! Install whatever applications you want from an SD card - the majority *will work.* You bought a media device so have fun with it! The ones that don't work tend to be other tools to help you manage rooted devices, heh (and keyboards, bah!). The default for most apps isn't too bad though on this device (including keyboard).
AdamOutler said:
Any time someone says " I rooted my device, now what do I do?", the best answer is to unroot it. Superuser Permissions is a tool used to bypass the safeties built into Android OS. The whole point of root is to bypass all security measures. If you don't know why you need root, then you don't need root. It's a security risk. Once you're rooted, it's easy for a malicious app to screw up your device.
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Ever try running zergRush on a device rooted with zergRush, just to get adb running under root?
You can't, you have to su to do it. At least I can't on my nook.
Usually rooted devices are more secure imho ;-) If they were secure to begin with then they couldn't be rooted, odds are rooting plugs at least one security hole. A good rootkit will plug it's own exploit anyhow.
Of course that depends on the user not to blindly click yes whenever it asks for superuser permission, but the requirement of having rooted your device to begin which likely weeds a bit of that out....maybe...
AdamOutler said:
Any time someone says " I rooted my device, now what do I do?", the best answer is to unroot it.
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I find this to be a rather closed minded statement. It's like telling someone they shouldn't ever try to fix their own car. This is how we LEARN things. Asking questions, taking chances. Granted there's a learning curve and granted you take risks when you root your tablet, but the fact remains that if you don't take risks, you gain nothing. And I think the "you don't know what you're doing so don't even try" attitude is pointless and slightly offensive.
The idea is to LEARN and GROW and gain insight into the inner workings of the android system. Not only for our own benefit, but for the benefit of others, so we can pass that knowledge along. If the only people allowed access to that info are the people that already have it- this little circle of friends is going to die out rather quickly.
Instead of assuming people are too stupid to learn how and why to root, why not lend a helping hand to those seeking knowledge and guidance?
Just something to consider.
Aight, so I have a Nook 16gb tablet on the way to my house, but before it gets here, I'm hoping to get stuff set up so all that I have to do is copy.
I am following instructions from Albert Wertz' thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1528625
But I wanted to be sure, and cannot ask in the thread itself since I'm new here, so I'm HOPING someone can answer this if he doesn't see it himself: to clarify, is this method rooting the device softly with SD card only, or is it rooting it hard into the tablet's drive with the ability to restore via the Recovery Rom? Generally speaking, it sounds safer to me to not internally root the thing, especially if for some reason it manages to get updated from B&N and starts bricking rooted devices, but maybe I'm a bit paranoid in my unfamiliarity on how those things work.
Secondly then, specific to the CM7 linked there, is he implying I should use the internal install? I'm assuming if the answer is that it's rooting hard, it's implied that I should, but again, just trying to make this transparent as possible.
Also... most forums have a sticky post for people who are new coming in with some tutorial information... has xda not really considered doing the same? It took me actually a couple hours of poking around to find even that thread and understand at least in general what it was trying to say.
You should take a look at this thread, it's a sticky:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1415812
Sorry if this is a question that gets answered frequently and in my hours of digging through threads I've probably seen the answer but am not noticing it or understanding.
Basically my experience with rooting is not much. I bricked a droid x once and have been gun shy since.
My question is, if I got a brand new Nook, with the latest software loaded, 1.4.3, I believe, is there a way to access most of the android market? I think I read that this is possible by rooting but all of those threads were months old and i thought I read that B&N closed those loopholes by now.
The only thing keeping me from a nook is the fact that they dont have the free versions of apps that the kindle fire offers
Thanks and sorrys in advance for the newb question, I just need some clarification
FatFrank said:
Sorry if this is a question that gets answered frequently and in my hours of digging through threads I've probably seen the answer but am not noticing it or understanding.
Basically my experience with rooting is not much. I bricked a droid x once and have been gun shy since.
My question is, if I got a brand new Nook, with the latest software loaded, 1.4.3, I believe, is there a way to access most of the android market? I think I read that this is possible by rooting but all of those threads were months old and i thought I read that B&N closed those loopholes by now.
The only thing keeping me from a nook is the fact that they dont have the free versions of apps that the kindle fire offers
Thanks and sorrys in advance for the newb question, I just need some clarification
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The new Nook Tablet can still be rooted, roms installed, and gain market access. Most of the market probably not. I have not heard of anything getting access to most of the market. The software and hardware impose limits in addition misinformation provided to the market about access. Seems that spoofing another unit can gain you access to a lot of games. Don't play games and did not find any big change when spoofing the recommended phones.
Good Luck!
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Re-root with IOROOT after reset (STUMP, IOROOT, BUMP, TRWP)
Not a question, just a thanks.
Rooted with STUMP initially just fine. Then had to factory reset due to a malfunctioning app.
Stump does not (yet) support re-root after reset unless you flash back to stock.
Thanks for all the helpful posts in several threads. I Rooted using IOROOT, using ADB no problem. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2776198
Now running BUMP TRWP recovery too. http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...pment/bump-unlock-lg-g3-twrp-verizon-t2900590
BUT, since i'm somewhat of a n00b, i used Flashify from the Google Play store to flash the image. Worked flawlessly. http://www.droidforums.net/threads/...ock-and-install-recovery-on-any-lg-g3.275056/
(in flashify, pick 'choose file' and navigate to the .IMG file)
Thanks!!
New to this - hopefully this is the right thread
I am the noobest noob around when it comes to android based phones (hoping to climb the mountain of knowledge to start developing during this winter if I have the time!).
The first thing I want to say is a clear "thank you" to those of you who are sharing knowledge - all searches "root my G3" led here to this site and it appears that there are some very talented people here - I am here to learn, experiment and share... Right now I am very much in the learning mode with regards to these topics.
So...I just got this LG G3 (Verizon)/VS985. I've had it for 3 days and I am really not a fan of all this bloatware they put on it. I just want it off.
Apparently, removing all these Amazon, football, etc. apps can only be done by rooting the phone.
Now here are the questions:
1. There seem to be many ways now (at least 3, maybe 4) to root these phones. Which is the best? Does it matter?
1(a). Someone mentioned that "they" (not sure if its verizon or LG) might discover the "exploit" that (I assumed) was used to root their phones and then change it - would this affect any phones that have been rooted previously or just phones that would be rooted using that specific exploit?
2. Assuming I am able to successfully root this phone, at that time can I remove the apps I do not want on the phone with the current apps or do I need new apps to accomplish this?
3. Will most play store apps work properly on rooted phones?
4. I do not understand nearly any technical jargon with these unit as of yet. I see people are maybe changing the bios (?) of the unit and software of the unit? Is this correct? If so, where does one obtain different bios or software?
5. This may sound petty, but I dislike the circular shape of "folders" when you combine apps together on this phone - and I wondered - is there a way to change this style to a traditional rectangular file folder or make other cosmetic changes to this phone so it is completely customized? For example, what if I want a small element that shows the weather using the national weather service website instead of what was built in? Do I have to figure out how to produce that or are there already such things out there?
6. I continually note the warnings that are stated when websites give links to root phones - are the risks overplayed or are there really some issues with this (other than "voiding the warranty")?
7. Once I root my phone, can I remove the bloatware and then go on using the phone and useful apps essentially as it was previously?
8. This is a bit off topic, but assuming I have some basic computing and electronic skills, is it possible to learn enough about the foundations of how these units work at the code level and produce an "app" that does specific tasks of which current apps do not within a few months perhaps?
8(a). Any recommendations of literature or other learning tools out there to support this quest?
That's it for now - again thanks very much for those who are sharing knowledge and workarounds on this forum!
Forested said:
I am the noobest noob around when it comes to android based phones (hoping to climb the mountain of knowledge to start developing during this winter if I have the time!).
The first thing I want to say is a clear "thank you" to those of you who are sharing knowledge - all searches "root my G3" led here to this site and it appears that there are some very talented people here - I am here to learn, experiment and share... Right now I am very much in the learning mode with regards to these topics.
So...I just got this LG G3 (Verizon)/VS985. I've had it for 3 days and I am really not a fan of all this bloatware they put on it. I just want it off.
Apparently, removing all these Amazon, football, etc. apps can only be done by rooting the phone.
Now here are the questions:
1. There seem to be many ways now (at least 3, maybe 4) to root these phones. Which is the best? Does it matter?
1(a). Someone mentioned that "they" (not sure if its verizon or LG) might discover the "exploit" that (I assumed) was used to root their phones and then change it - would this affect any phones that have been rooted previously or just phones that would be rooted using that specific exploit?
2. Assuming I am able to successfully root this phone, at that time can I remove the apps I do not want on the phone with the current apps or do I need new apps to accomplish this?
3. Will most play store apps work properly on rooted phones?
4. I do not understand nearly any technical jargon with these unit as of yet. I see people are maybe changing the bios (?) of the unit and software of the unit? Is this correct? If so, where does one obtain different bios or software?
5. This may sound petty, but I dislike the circular shape of "folders" when you combine apps together on this phone - and I wondered - is there a way to change this style to a traditional rectangular file folder or make other cosmetic changes to this phone so it is completely customized? For example, what if I want a small element that shows the weather using the national weather service website instead of what was built in? Do I have to figure out how to produce that or are there already such things out there?
6. I continually note the warnings that are stated when websites give links to root phones - are the risks overplayed or are there really some issues with this (other than "voiding the warranty")?
7. Once I root my phone, can I remove the bloatware and then go on using the phone and useful apps essentially as it was previously?
8. This is a bit off topic, but assuming I have some basic computing and electronic skills, is it possible to learn enough about the foundations of how these units work at the code level and produce an "app" that does specific tasks of which current apps do not within a few months perhaps?
8(a). Any recommendations of literature or other learning tools out there to support this quest?
That's it for now - again thanks very much for those who are sharing knowledge and workarounds on this forum!
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You're in the same ballpark as me! I just bought my Lg G3 from Verizon yesterday as well, however I'm going to wait a little while to root it. I'm running Nova Launcher and just made all of those apps hidden. But let me answer some of your questions from my past root experience!
1. As for ROMS, I would stick to the Verizon section for now, but that's just me. You can try the other 'variants,' but that's up to you if you want to get your feet wet over there. It won't ruin your phone, just some of the things won't work (probably, I don't know). Looks like Jasmine is your best bet so far, and there's another one MIUI that is pretty popular, but that's your selection as of right now and people seem to be enjoying them the best!
2. Absolutely . If you can't delete them manually, you can download Titanium Backup (what I use) to delete those horrible Verizon apps and Amazon, etc. Now, these will be deleted from your phone for good until you unroot your phone and reflash the official, orginal firmware provided here on xda.
3. All Play Store apps should work. Well...MOST should work. I've been rooting for over 2 years and I've never had an app say, "nope! too bad, so sad." So you should be good Download away.
4. These are new concepts for me too...I would just do some homework. Like every flasher out there would say, "Read read read! Oh. And READ BEFORE ROOTING!"
5. I would assume this is just based on the Launcher that you're using. You can use the stock software which is pretty nice, actually, but I prefer Nova launcher in my personal liking. There's also GEL that is pretty and fluent. In the settings of these apps, you can (usually) change the folder icons.
6. If you have a warrenty, yes, it's "Voided," unless you unroot . Make sure you read up on that, but there is nothing wrong with it. I've had Verizon reps actually tell me that what I did was a good thing, haha. But if you plan on returning the phone, make sure you unroot it and discard of any "suspicions!" Again, just do your reading about root/unroot and you should be solid. :good:
7. Yes.
8. Just read the general LG g3 forums of rooting, unrooting, bumping (this is new), and read what others are saying about the ROM to see what kind of issues there may or may not be with it. And have fun! Also, once you get the hang of rooting, it will be easy as pie. If it's something new, there's a ton of information out there already with our phone where you can fix it! There's a unbrick solution on here, too, just not sure where in the threads.
Side note - If you have any questions or problems, it's just a simple question in the Questions thread and you have a few thousand people here ready to help you! HAPPY FLASHING!
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I have rooted my lg g3 d855 eur e10 few days ago. Now my play-store keeps saying that i don't have working network connections with 3g and wifi. I factory reseted it today and now i can't log in to my google play account. It says " Can't establish a reliable connection to server. This could be temporary problem or your android device may not be provisisioned for data services".
LG G3
I have a LG G3,Verizon version,and whenever I hit the grind button it will say "Device is patched,sorry!" How do I fix this?
KaesoGallusLaevinus said:
I have a LG G3,Verizon version,and whenever I hit the grind button it will say "Device is patched,sorry!" How do I fix this?
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What build are you on? 10b 11c? Did you take any otas
I just got my LG g3, from Verizon since it's new it's automatically updated to 12b is there a way to root, unlocked and install recovery and everything. I just came to LG from my s3 which was locked out (thanks knox) so I'm out of the flashing loop so any and all help is appreciated
N3RO2403 said:
I just got my LG g3, from Verizon since it's new it's automatically updated to 12b is there a way to root, unlocked and install recovery and everything. I just came to LG from my s3 which was locked out (thanks knox) so I'm out of the flashing loop so any and all help is appreciated
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Downgrade to 10B.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2928140
Use Stump root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2928140
Find the TWRP thread in Development or Original Development, I forget which.
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