Sorry if this is a question that gets answered frequently and in my hours of digging through threads I've probably seen the answer but am not noticing it or understanding.
Basically my experience with rooting is not much. I bricked a droid x once and have been gun shy since.
My question is, if I got a brand new Nook, with the latest software loaded, 1.4.3, I believe, is there a way to access most of the android market? I think I read that this is possible by rooting but all of those threads were months old and i thought I read that B&N closed those loopholes by now.
The only thing keeping me from a nook is the fact that they dont have the free versions of apps that the kindle fire offers
Thanks and sorrys in advance for the newb question, I just need some clarification
FatFrank said:
Sorry if this is a question that gets answered frequently and in my hours of digging through threads I've probably seen the answer but am not noticing it or understanding.
Basically my experience with rooting is not much. I bricked a droid x once and have been gun shy since.
My question is, if I got a brand new Nook, with the latest software loaded, 1.4.3, I believe, is there a way to access most of the android market? I think I read that this is possible by rooting but all of those threads were months old and i thought I read that B&N closed those loopholes by now.
The only thing keeping me from a nook is the fact that they dont have the free versions of apps that the kindle fire offers
Thanks and sorrys in advance for the newb question, I just need some clarification
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The new Nook Tablet can still be rooted, roms installed, and gain market access. Most of the market probably not. I have not heard of anything getting access to most of the market. The software and hardware impose limits in addition misinformation provided to the market about access. Seems that spoofing another unit can gain you access to a lot of games. Don't play games and did not find any big change when spoofing the recommended phones.
Good Luck!
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So I finally figured out how to root my phone. I've installed the google market and it's great to have access to that, as well as other google apps. But now I'm wondering- what's next?
What are the things I can (and should) do with a rooted Nook Tablet? Finding a way to block OTA updates is my number 1 priority, but I'm also curious about what else I can do now that I couldn't do before.
I've been browsing threads trying to find the answer, but there's so much dense info out there now that it's pretty baffling. I'm seeing a lot of words like "superuser" and "permissions" and stuff being thrown around, but I have no real idea what that stuff means.
Can anyone maybe briefly go over the essential stuff that newly rooted tablet users should be looking into? A jumping off point would be really helpful. There's just so much info out there and new rooters (such as myself) could use a entry point before jumping in the pool.
Also, I've heard that once you're rooted, you can remove usless barnes and noble stuff that slows your tablet down. Is this really recommended? The tablet seems pretty fast, but could it move faster if I took off the B&N stuff? And if so- can this be easily done?
Much obliged to anyone who may have thoughts on this.
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So I finally figured out how to root my phone. I've installed the google market and it's great to have access to that, as well as other google apps. But now I'm wondering- what's next?
What are the things I can (and should) do with a rooted Nook Tablet? Finding a way to block OTA updates is my number 1 priority, but I'm also curious about what else I can do now that I couldn't do before.
I've been browsing threads trying to find the answer, but there's so much dense info out there now that it's pretty baffling. I'm seeing a lot of words like "superuser" and "permissions" and stuff being thrown around, but I have no real idea what that stuff means.
Can anyone maybe briefly go over the essential stuff that newly rooted tablet users should be looking into? A jumping off point would be really helpful. There's just so much info out there and new rooters (such as myself) could use a entry point before jumping in the pool.
Also, I've heard that once you're rooted, you can remove usless barnes and noble stuff that slows your tablet down. Is this really recommended? The tablet seems pretty fast, but could it move faster if I took off the B&N stuff? And if so- can this be easily done?
Much obliged to anyone who may have thoughts on this.
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See these threads for other programs people feel are essential:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1353040
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1348264
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1366024
And Indirect (I think) had a thread about removing B&N bloatware.
jimmysuggs said:
So I finally figured out how to root my phone. I've installed the google market and it's great to have access to that, as well as other google apps. But now I'm wondering- what's next?
What are the things I can (and should) do with a rooted Nook Tablet? Finding a way to block OTA updates is my number 1 priority, but I'm also curious about what else I can do now that I couldn't do before.
I've been browsing threads trying to find the answer, but there's so much dense info out there now that it's pretty baffling. I'm seeing a lot of words like "superuser" and "permissions" and stuff being thrown around, but I have no real idea what that stuff means.
Can anyone maybe briefly go over the essential stuff that newly rooted tablet users should be looking into? A jumping off point would be really helpful. There's just so much info out there and new rooters (such as myself) could use a entry point before jumping in the pool.
Also, I've heard that once you're rooted, you can remove usless barnes and noble stuff that slows your tablet down. Is this really recommended? The tablet seems pretty fast, but could it move faster if I took off the B&N stuff? And if so- can this be easily done?
Much obliged to anyone who may have thoughts on this.
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Hi, I am glad you took the leap to root your Nook Tablet, it is a wonderful device that can do a lot with app side loading and root enable.
However, please follow the forum rule for posting, this is a developer's forum reserved for discussion on Nook Tablet (NT) hacking and developments, and not for general user Q&A. There are the Nook Tablet General and Nook Tablet Themes and Apps forums that are setup for general Q&A purposes, please post in those forum with your question instead, you will get more helpful information and user support from those 2 forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1395
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1398
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And Indirect (I think) had a thread about removing B&N bloatware.
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The thread you're referring to is called "[WIP]Nook-Debloater[Dev]" and it's down the list of posts in this forum. I'd link, but as this is my second post, I don't have that ability yet. There is supposed to be a Bash script that will delete all the .apk files for you, but for now you'll either have to do that manually from the command line or wait.
Perhaps a mod can move this to the proper forum.
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The thread you're referring to is called "[WIP]Nook-Debloater[Dev]" and it's down the list of posts in this forum. I'd link, but as this is my second post, I don't have that ability yet. There is supposed to be a Bash script that will delete all the .apk files for you, but for now you'll either have to do that manually from the command line or wait.
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Here you go:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1366386
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However, please follow the forum rule for posting, this is a developer's forum reserved for discussion on Nook Tablet (NT) hacking and developments, and not for general user Q&A.
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Sorry, I actually thought I was in the general Q&A section when I posted this question but I see I was wrong.
Can the thread maybe be moved?
In the meantime, many thanks to folks who have provided input thus far, I really appreciate it.
A few things I did after rooting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdHITAD4M3Y
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A few things I did after rooting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdHITAD4M3Y
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Where can I download that home/back button you have on the right? Seems pretty handy for the Nook.
Thanks in advance
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blackbird 80 said:
Where can I download that home/back button you have on the right? Seems pretty handy for the Nook.
Thanks in advance
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You can find it on Android Market, search for com.smart.swkey (I'm still a noob, so the forum doesn't let me post links)
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You can find it on Android Market, search for com.smart.swkey (I'm still a noob, so the forum doesn't let me post links)
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Thanks allot! Works perfect for me.
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150pilot said:
A few things I did after rooting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdHITAD4M3Y
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Very nice. Which version of Crackle did you install? I found an apk and installed but kept getting a "not compatible with your device" message.
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jimmysuggs said:
Sorry, I actually thought I was in the general Q&A section when I posted this question but I see I was wrong.
Can the thread maybe be moved?
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Thread moved to general
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Thanks for post - helped me out a bit when I customized my tablet
Any time someone says " I rooted my device, now what do I do?", the best answer is to unroot it. Superuser Permissions is a tool used to bypass the safeties built into Android OS. The whole point of root is to bypass all security measures. If you don't know why you need root, then you don't need root. It's a security risk. Once you're rooted, it's easy for a malicious app to screw up your device.
AdamOutler said:
Any time someone says " I rooted my device, now what do I do?", the best answer is to unroot it. Superuser Permissions is a tool used to bypass the safeties built into Android OS. The whole point of root is to bypass all security measures. If you don't know why you need root, then you don't need root. It's a security risk. Once you're rooted, it's easy for a malicious app to screw up your device.
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+1 Totally spot on. Most people *don't* need to root. If it's confusing, don't do it! Install whatever applications you want from an SD card - the majority *will work.* You bought a media device so have fun with it! The ones that don't work tend to be other tools to help you manage rooted devices, heh (and keyboards, bah!). The default for most apps isn't too bad though on this device (including keyboard).
AdamOutler said:
Any time someone says " I rooted my device, now what do I do?", the best answer is to unroot it. Superuser Permissions is a tool used to bypass the safeties built into Android OS. The whole point of root is to bypass all security measures. If you don't know why you need root, then you don't need root. It's a security risk. Once you're rooted, it's easy for a malicious app to screw up your device.
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Ever try running zergRush on a device rooted with zergRush, just to get adb running under root?
You can't, you have to su to do it. At least I can't on my nook.
Usually rooted devices are more secure imho ;-) If they were secure to begin with then they couldn't be rooted, odds are rooting plugs at least one security hole. A good rootkit will plug it's own exploit anyhow.
Of course that depends on the user not to blindly click yes whenever it asks for superuser permission, but the requirement of having rooted your device to begin which likely weeds a bit of that out....maybe...
AdamOutler said:
Any time someone says " I rooted my device, now what do I do?", the best answer is to unroot it.
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I find this to be a rather closed minded statement. It's like telling someone they shouldn't ever try to fix their own car. This is how we LEARN things. Asking questions, taking chances. Granted there's a learning curve and granted you take risks when you root your tablet, but the fact remains that if you don't take risks, you gain nothing. And I think the "you don't know what you're doing so don't even try" attitude is pointless and slightly offensive.
The idea is to LEARN and GROW and gain insight into the inner workings of the android system. Not only for our own benefit, but for the benefit of others, so we can pass that knowledge along. If the only people allowed access to that info are the people that already have it- this little circle of friends is going to die out rather quickly.
Instead of assuming people are too stupid to learn how and why to root, why not lend a helping hand to those seeking knowledge and guidance?
Just something to consider.
I am very Noob in this, but I have questions that I am sure that are gonna help a lot of people.
I am going to buy a cheap e-reader/tablet, and I have seen that the two best options are Nook Tablet and Kindle Fire.
The difference between the prices is 50USD, and I accept them. But I want to permanent root my device, so, the question is:
If I permanent root the Nook Tablet, will I be able to access all the device memory? Because without rooting it is limited to 1GB.. Will I be able to put for example 4gb of video without MicroSD?
Because if I cant access all the storage, I will have to buy a 16gb microSD.. So the difference between the two devices will be about 80USD, which is quite a lot.
The other questions are: Can you really access the Android Market and download apps if you root the Nook Tablet?
What does that means that the bootloader in the Nook tablet is locked? Is the rooting going to be unstable for that?
Thank you very much.
All these questions have been answered to other threads. Please read or search for them.
xdahgary said:
All these questions have been answered to other threads. Please read or search for them.
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I have been in a lot of forums, and I know perfectly that before you ask, you have to search for your questions. I have been about half hours looking for them, and I have found different answers, so I need the real one.
Some answers say that you can only access all the memory for the installed apps, but not for all the medias.. others say that you always need a MicroSD card.. so, tell me please, which of those threads is the truth?
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Some answers say that you can only access all the memory for the installed apps, but not for all the medias.. others say that you always need a MicroSD card.. so, tell me please, which of those threads is the truth?
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The first one. You install to the internal, and can make folders (I suggest putting them in data or media, and not anywhere in the main directory) anywhere. Downloads from other app stores and ebook stores save all over the place, but usually by default to an SD card. Just learn to use a file manager and expect to root it.
It's easier to get every other application/store/video to run on a rooted Nook Tablet (compared to a KF), but it'll be much easier to make custom roms for a Kindle Fire due to the bootloader. What this means is that: if you have a kindle, you will sit around fiddling with rooting and unrooting if you want their Instant Video to work, until a whole new rom (entire OS overhaul) is available. In comparison you can root a Nook Tablet, and put whatever you want on it and run it and most things will work (if they're tablet apps, and depending on what stores you use), but it will be much harder to load a new OS on it, if ever. For someone who wants to hack and mod a tablet, they will want to do it on a device that is supports it (KF). For someone that wants to read books, play games, watch videos, read comics, very easily right off the bat (with 10 min of work), the Nook Tablet is better (and has a few important higher specs).
And the suggestion to find the many threads that answer your question wasn't "go out there and find other forums with lots of conflicting answers" but *SCROLL DOWN.*
skipped said:
I am very Noob in this, but I have questions that I am sure that are gonna help a lot of people.
I am going to buy a cheap e-reader/tablet, and I have seen that the two best options are Nook Tablet and Kindle Fire.
The difference between the prices is 50USD, and I accept them. But I want to permanent root my device, so, the question is:
If I permanent root the Nook Tablet, will I be able to access all the device memory? Because without rooting it is limited to 1GB.. Will I be able to put for example 4gb of video without MicroSD?
Because if I cant access all the storage, I will have to buy a 16gb microSD.. So the difference between the two devices will be about 80USD, which is quite a lot.
The other questions are: Can you really access the Android Market and download apps if you root the Nook Tablet?
What does that means that the bootloader in the Nook tablet is locked? Is the rooting going to be unstable for that?
Thank you very much.
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There are definitive answers, so I don't know that you've searched all that much. However, to answer some of your questions:
Yes, you can install the market once rooted, and the bootloader being locked means that the simplest solutions for installing new ROMs will not work. People are trying workarounds at the moment, but there is no ETA. This has no bearing on having the device rooted.
I think it is also important to mention that until a verified means of preventing OTA updates to the system is created, it is possible your device to become un-rooted after it updates itself.
So far, I have seen no sure-fire ways to prevent the NT from updating itself - only guesses. So your "permanent root" may not be so permanent for the time being.
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Means custom roms can't be created as of yet. Give it time.
Why do so many people keep repeating "over the air updates may remove root..." Maybe it will, maybe it won't. You must accept an OTA update. If you are worried about root, don't accept the update until you know what it will do. Seems simple to me.
Is there even a patch for the zergrush expolit?
dkb218 said:
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Means custom roms can't be created as of yet. Give it time.
Why do so many people keep repeating "over the air updates may remove root..." Maybe it will, maybe it won't. You must accept an OTA update. If you are worried about root, don't accept the update until you know what it will do. Seems simple to me.
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For the KF at least, its coming in the form of silent updates. Once you're on wifi, the update is pushed down.
Honestly its a hazard of the game until we have different roms. If they plug the hole, they plug it. I'm holding out for the ROM solution, regardless of elegant/inelegant the solution proves to be.
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JoeM01 said:
For the KF at least, its coming in the form of silent updates. Once you're on wifi, the update is pushed down.
Honestly its a hazard of the game until we have different roms. If they plug the hole, they plug it. I'm holding out for the ROM solution, regardless of elegant/inelegant the solution proves to be.
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True enough. Often inelegant=most effective. Same when I first rooted my TF101. Used the ADB root. Which meant I had to self-teach ADB. Best thing that happened as not only I achieved root but learned something new that has helped with other devices.
dkb218 said:
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Means custom roms can't be created as of yet. Give it time.
Why do so many people keep repeating "over the air updates may remove root..." Maybe it will, maybe it won't. You must accept an OTA update. If you are worried about root, don't accept the update until you know what it will do. Seems simple to me.
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If the NT does OTA updates like the NC there is no prompt to accept the update, just a message that the update occurred. It is not the same as a phone.
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Hi all,
I like to say I'm a closet techy and phonephile. I have owned 3 Blackberrys, an iPhone, A Symbian powered Nokia, and then the 3-4 dumbphones I've had too. I think I have finally found my home with Android. I currently have an HTC Inspire 4G and an Asus TF-201 Transformer Prime. I have been a rommer for about 3 months now on my Inspire, currently running CM7.1, and love it. I do miss the HTC sense feel but have grown used to the solid performance by CM7.
Anyway back to the questions. I am looking for a way to actually view my phone screen remotely on my Tablet so I can look like I am taking notes in class but can be actually text, and do things that aren't "scholarly". Is it possible?
My second question is about Rooting my Tablet. I used the root method on transformerprimeroot.com to no avail. I have superuser on the tablet but the permissions to all the root apps are being denied. Anyone know how to fix this?
Thank you.
I used to have an Inspire 4g, loved it. Try out some of Virtuous' ROMs if you want to get that sense feel back, wicked fast too. You are probably looking for AndroidVNC or VNCandroid (or something like that) although those apps are generally used for viewing phone from a desktop or laptop. I guess if you can find a VNC Server to install on the phone and a VNC Viewer on your tablet you could maybe do it.
As for your root issues, does a prompt pop up for you to confirm or deny SU access for the app? if not, how do you know you have root? Can you sudo bash in terminal?
I know almost entirely nothing about terminal and coding. To be honest I'm a little afraid of doing it too. I don't want to brick the tablet. I was told that if I root it again then unroot it, superiser would be gone. However I tried that using vipermod and it didn't work.
I also have one more question about this site. How come when I was not a member I could gain access to the developement threads and download the roms but now that I am a member I am locked out. Seems a little unfair imho. I understand why the rules are there I just don't understand how a non member was able to gain access without a problem.
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I'm sorry if this has been answered before but I'm using tapatalk and can't figure out how to search the forums...
Anyway, after reading this forum, I'm pretty hesitant to do anything major to my phone...I'm pretty content to just wait for the ICS OTA, however when I do get the OTA I would like to at least install Nova launcher and I'm pretty sure you need to be rooted for it to work...
So my first question is, if I do root, do I have to unlock the bootloader? And in doing so does that prevent me from receiving future OTAs?
My second question is about leedroid tweaks...I'm not a huge fan of my pink soft keys and I've read that leedroid tweaks let's you dim or turn them off completely...if I'm wanting to use that would I be romming my phone?
Sorry for sounding like such an idiot...I had a droid x and it was wayyy different from this phone as far as modding goes and from what I've gathered I can't just SBF my Rezound if I get into some trouble like I could on my X...I also had a lot of hardware issues with my X that lead to me going through a whopping 9 replacement phones, so my trust in electronics is minimal and the last thing I want to do is get stuck with a voided warranty.
Thanks for the help in advance and sorry again...I know from the video I watched to sign up that you guys get pretty annoyed with people like me but these forums seem like the most legitimate place for answers.
.....but it seems they are soooooo ignorant.arrogant over on the V50 forum.
Weeks ago i posted a simple question asking in the V50 can can be rooted (UK) Hundreds have viewed buy zero answeres.
Seen as thoguh I only recently gave my mother the V30.....can u pretty please let me help me out and any ideas if v60 can be rooted?
thanks
Matt
You may want to be more clear on what you're asking for... you mention 3 phones in your post, so I'm not sure which one you're askign about, really. I assume it's not the V30. That said, the V60 shows very little ROM development, which makes me think it's not rooted. Lack of ROMs generally means there is no root.
The V50 has a few ROMs, so that implies it probably does have root capability...
That said, I realize the principles that people have regarding rooting... I was once in that camp myself. But these days, I find it's hard to get it... and it really may not be necessary. I gave up root on my current S10 for this reason, even though it can be rooted in specific situations. For this reason, I question the real "necessity" of it.
i wan to root my V50 just for the sake os system app remover and titanium backp.
thanks
Matt
As I've learned on my new S10, TiBu hasn't been updated in many years and doesn't quite work as well as it used to either. People have had to find alternative apps to do those tasks. In Samsung-land, Samsung Switch works pretty well for this purpose, and doesn't require root. There are others.
Similarly, you don't need root to remove system apps on the S10 either - you can remove them via ADB these days. I'm guessing you can probably do the same on the V50. However, IMO you don't need to remove system apps as much these days because phones have lots more memory and Android is more efficient in dealing with background apps.
To each their own, but the old ways of doing things may have been superceded... so you may not need root anymore... not that you can get it as easily either.