I'm at a loss as to why development hasn't begun on rooting the Vizio tablet.
There have been a few hints thrown out by Vizio techs that rooting involves an sdcard.
Thoughts?
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Anyone in the dev community have one of these yet? I'm considering trying to root it myself but I'm still learning.
What has been required of rooting past devices?
Its been suggested that Gingerbreak and other conventional root methods have failed due to the odd internal memory/SD card directories..
Thoughts?
How do we get a dev or two interested in this device?
I also do not understand why the Vizio hasn't received more 'root' attention. Perhaps it is too recently released, perhaps the experts are busy working elsewhere, or maybe Honeycomb has enthralled the hackers leaving us wee Gingerbread users to fend for ourselves. Like your message suggests, it may be up to us neophytes.
I know Unix/Linux reasonably well enough, though I have no immediate knowledge of how to hack for root. So, I am also trying to learn what is needed. The crux of rooting is to find a method to get a process 'suid', a.k.a. root privilege. Once that is achieved the OS is rooted and sustained rooting can be done. At least that's my take on the process at the moment.
I have adb (Android Debug Bridge) working on my Win7/64 system. I've tried Gingerbreak-v1.20 and SuperOneClick-v2.1.1 with no success. So now it's a race between me and Vizio. Do I/we crack the OS or does Vizio bring out the Honeycomb version of Android for the VTAB1008?
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I am guessing that vizio is probably throwing in the towel today as Amazon just ate their lunch. A $200 tablet that smokes our Vizios in every way imaginable.
The dev community will probably jump on the Amazon tablet as fast as possible, and pretty much everything else is toast.
R2N2 said:
I also do not understand why the Vizio hasn't received more 'root' attention. Perhaps it is too recently released, perhaps the experts are busy working elsewhere, or maybe Honeycomb has enthralled the hackers leaving us wee Gingerbread users to fend for ourselves. Like your message suggests, it may be up to us neophytes.
I know Unix/Linux reasonably well enough, though I have no immediate knowledge of how to hack for root. So, I am also trying to learn what is needed. The crux of rooting is to find a method to get a process 'suid', a.k.a. root privilege. Once that is achieved the OS is rooted and sustained rooting can be done. At least that's my take on the process at the moment.
I have adb (Android Debug Bridge) working on my Win7/64 system. I've tried Gingerbreak-v1.20 and SuperOneClick-v2.1.1 with no success. So now it's a race between me and Vizio. Do I/we crack the OS or does Vizio bring out the Honeycomb version of Android for the VTAB1008?
Nelson
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I'm interested in following your progress! Thank you for the reply.
walkingagh said:
I am guessing that vizio is probably throwing in the towel today as Amazon just ate their lunch. A $200 tablet that smokes our Vizios in every way imaginable.
The dev community will probably jump on the Amazon tablet as fast as possible, and pretty much everything else is toast.
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Holy crap. Its dual core. I just looked it up.
Gonna preorder tonight. I'm still within my Vizio return period!
I just preordered a Kindle Fire.
I'm on the fence about returning my VTab. If it gets rooted, I'll be inclined to keep it.
walkingagh said:
I am guessing that vizio is probably throwing in the towel today as Amazon just ate their lunch. A $200 tablet that smokes our Vizios in every way imaginable.
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"Every way imaginable?" Hardly. No camera. No SD card slot. No GPS. No Bluetooth? No access to the 'droid app store. Skinned and constrained to keep you on AOL... er, Amazon.
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The dev community will probably jump on the Amazon tablet as fast as possible, and pretty much everything else is toast.
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*snort* Yeah, right.
Even were that true: The "dev community" is not the whole of the Android, much less the tablet, world. This may come as a shock: But some people actually just use their devices as-delivered, other than to install apps and add some hardware accessories.
Sorry if I'm coming across kinda harsh on my first post here, but breathless hyperbole seems to me better-suited to an American Idol or Big Brother web site, or perhaps a marketing or stock-trading forum, than to a development venue.
Jim
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"Every way imaginable?" Hardly. No camera. No SD card slot. No GPS. No Bluetooth? No access to the 'droid app store. Skinned and constrained to keep you on AOL... er, Amazon.
*snort* Yeah, right.
Even were that true: The "dev community" is not the whole of the Android, much less the tablet, world. This may come as a shock: But some people actually just use their devices as-delivered, other than to install apps and add some hardware accessories.
Sorry if I'm coming across kinda harsh on my first post here, but breathless hyperbole seems to me better-suited to an American Idol or Big Brother web site, or perhaps a marketing or stock-trading forum, than to a development venue.
Jim
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Wow, I ASSumed the Fire would have simple stuff like that.
Well, that explains the price. Why bother with a dual core proc and no supplemental features, like Bluetooth!!!
They really are trying to make it an IPad.
Interesting.
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They really are trying to make it an IPad.
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Not even in the same class. It's designed to be a Nook-killer.
I like Amazon well enough. Other than their free shipping has turned very lame, I've always been satisfied with them in every respect. But their overwhelming market dominance I think is bad juju, so my VTAB has only Nook installed, and I'll henceforth go first to B&N for my reading purchases.
Jim
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Not even in the same class. It's designed to be a Nook-killer.
I like Amazon well enough. Other than their free shipping has turned very lame, I've always been satisfied with them in every respect. But their overwhelming market dominance I think is bad juju, so my VTAB has only Nook installed, and I'll henceforth go first to B&N for my reading purchases.
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Every review I've seen is comparing it to the ipad, but I digress.
I have 50 books on Kindle and none on Nook. I don't think I could make the switch.
Back to rooting the VTab...
Any devs out there interested? I will buy you a case of your favorite beverage, within reason.
Bump for the night crew. The lack of intrest in development of this device is a mystery to me.
I wish I knew how to root stuff. This thing wants CM7 and setcpu soooo bad.
DetCochese,
I don't think you've been looking very hard: My quest to root my Vizio VTAB108 Tablet and how I enabled ADB access
That thread was on the first page of the Android Q&A forum for a goodly portion of yesterday.
Jim
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DetCochese,
I don't think you've been looking very hard: My quest to root my Vizio VTAB108 Tablet and how I enabled ADB access
That thread was on the first page of the Android Q&A forum for a goodly portion of yesterday.
Jim
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I am aware of both that thread and the one regarding booting into recovery.
Both of which are grassroots attempts by folks such as myself to obtain root. I applaud their efforts and wish them success.
That said Jim, my desire is to see interest in this device from well established platform developers, such as the Cyanogen Mod team.
DetCochese said:
I am aware of both that thread and the one regarding booting into recovery.
Both of which are grassroots attempts by folks such as myself to obtain root. I applaud their efforts and wish them success.
That said Jim, my desire is to see interest in this device from well established platform developers, such as the Cyanogen Mod team.
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Ah, ok. Sorry for the mis-impression.
Jim
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Ah, ok. Sorry for the mis-impression.
Jim
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No apology needed.
As soon as someone comes up with a way to reconfig the file structure of the SD card to /sd from /sd external or whatever abomination Vizio came up with, conventional root methods will succeed. At least that's my prediction.
I'm too much of a newb to know how to alter the /sd card file structure.
I just installed and PATH'd ADB 5 minutes ago.
Lunch time!
Iconia A100 uses "externalsd" too. Internal storage is /sdcard.
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Iconia A100 uses "externalsd" too. Internal storage is /sdcard.
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Has someone found a work around with that device yet that could help here???
This is from the Iconia A100 subforum on acertablet
Would this work with the VTab??
http://www.acertabletforum.com/foru...ssion/1167-rooting-iconia-a100-made-easy.html
Rooting Iconia A100 Made Easy
This is a method to root the Acer Iconia A100, as presently neither Gingerbreak, nor IconiaRoot 1.3 (or earlier versions) work. I used terminal (app from market, any will do), and performed the procedure below.
What you need:
A copy of superuser, bin file, NOT .apk...
http://downloads.androidsu.com/super...bin-signed.zip
Place this file in the root of INTERNAL SD (mnt/sdcard, not external SD), and unzip it into this same directory. Still at root, /mnt/sdcard, locate and click 'system' folder, then 'bin' folder, and copy the su file. Nav back to sdcard root (mnt/sdcard), and paste su file.
Busybox Installer (.apk from market)
Superuser (.apk from market) This will update the su file and install the Superuser app after rooting.
Titanium Backup (.apk from market) or ANY application for root, to check and ensure you are indeed rooted.
With the su file loaded to internal sd's root, open terminal.
Copy/Paste the following commands at the $ prompt:
/system/bin/cmdclient ec_micswitch '`mount -o remount,rw /system`'
/system/bin/cmdclient ec_micswitch '`cat /mnt/sdcard/su >/system/xbin/su`'
/system/bin/cmdclient ec_micswitch '`chmod 6755 /system/xbin/su`'
Once completed, install and open Busybox Installer.apk, and run the app to install Busybox. If it completes, you have root, if it fails, repeat the steps above.
Once busybox is installed, go ahead and install the other remaining apps, and 'Allow' when prompted for superuser access. Congrats! You've rooted your A100!!
Credit goes to several folks @ XDA, particularly: abliss, brendan802 and guags99
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So I finally figured out how to root my phone. I've installed the google market and it's great to have access to that, as well as other google apps. But now I'm wondering- what's next?
What are the things I can (and should) do with a rooted Nook Tablet? Finding a way to block OTA updates is my number 1 priority, but I'm also curious about what else I can do now that I couldn't do before.
I've been browsing threads trying to find the answer, but there's so much dense info out there now that it's pretty baffling. I'm seeing a lot of words like "superuser" and "permissions" and stuff being thrown around, but I have no real idea what that stuff means.
Can anyone maybe briefly go over the essential stuff that newly rooted tablet users should be looking into? A jumping off point would be really helpful. There's just so much info out there and new rooters (such as myself) could use a entry point before jumping in the pool.
Also, I've heard that once you're rooted, you can remove usless barnes and noble stuff that slows your tablet down. Is this really recommended? The tablet seems pretty fast, but could it move faster if I took off the B&N stuff? And if so- can this be easily done?
Much obliged to anyone who may have thoughts on this.
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So I finally figured out how to root my phone. I've installed the google market and it's great to have access to that, as well as other google apps. But now I'm wondering- what's next?
What are the things I can (and should) do with a rooted Nook Tablet? Finding a way to block OTA updates is my number 1 priority, but I'm also curious about what else I can do now that I couldn't do before.
I've been browsing threads trying to find the answer, but there's so much dense info out there now that it's pretty baffling. I'm seeing a lot of words like "superuser" and "permissions" and stuff being thrown around, but I have no real idea what that stuff means.
Can anyone maybe briefly go over the essential stuff that newly rooted tablet users should be looking into? A jumping off point would be really helpful. There's just so much info out there and new rooters (such as myself) could use a entry point before jumping in the pool.
Also, I've heard that once you're rooted, you can remove usless barnes and noble stuff that slows your tablet down. Is this really recommended? The tablet seems pretty fast, but could it move faster if I took off the B&N stuff? And if so- can this be easily done?
Much obliged to anyone who may have thoughts on this.
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See these threads for other programs people feel are essential:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1353040
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1348264
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1366024
And Indirect (I think) had a thread about removing B&N bloatware.
jimmysuggs said:
So I finally figured out how to root my phone. I've installed the google market and it's great to have access to that, as well as other google apps. But now I'm wondering- what's next?
What are the things I can (and should) do with a rooted Nook Tablet? Finding a way to block OTA updates is my number 1 priority, but I'm also curious about what else I can do now that I couldn't do before.
I've been browsing threads trying to find the answer, but there's so much dense info out there now that it's pretty baffling. I'm seeing a lot of words like "superuser" and "permissions" and stuff being thrown around, but I have no real idea what that stuff means.
Can anyone maybe briefly go over the essential stuff that newly rooted tablet users should be looking into? A jumping off point would be really helpful. There's just so much info out there and new rooters (such as myself) could use a entry point before jumping in the pool.
Also, I've heard that once you're rooted, you can remove usless barnes and noble stuff that slows your tablet down. Is this really recommended? The tablet seems pretty fast, but could it move faster if I took off the B&N stuff? And if so- can this be easily done?
Much obliged to anyone who may have thoughts on this.
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Hi, I am glad you took the leap to root your Nook Tablet, it is a wonderful device that can do a lot with app side loading and root enable.
However, please follow the forum rule for posting, this is a developer's forum reserved for discussion on Nook Tablet (NT) hacking and developments, and not for general user Q&A. There are the Nook Tablet General and Nook Tablet Themes and Apps forums that are setup for general Q&A purposes, please post in those forum with your question instead, you will get more helpful information and user support from those 2 forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1395
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1398
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And Indirect (I think) had a thread about removing B&N bloatware.
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The thread you're referring to is called "[WIP]Nook-Debloater[Dev]" and it's down the list of posts in this forum. I'd link, but as this is my second post, I don't have that ability yet. There is supposed to be a Bash script that will delete all the .apk files for you, but for now you'll either have to do that manually from the command line or wait.
Perhaps a mod can move this to the proper forum.
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The thread you're referring to is called "[WIP]Nook-Debloater[Dev]" and it's down the list of posts in this forum. I'd link, but as this is my second post, I don't have that ability yet. There is supposed to be a Bash script that will delete all the .apk files for you, but for now you'll either have to do that manually from the command line or wait.
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Here you go:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1366386
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However, please follow the forum rule for posting, this is a developer's forum reserved for discussion on Nook Tablet (NT) hacking and developments, and not for general user Q&A.
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Sorry, I actually thought I was in the general Q&A section when I posted this question but I see I was wrong.
Can the thread maybe be moved?
In the meantime, many thanks to folks who have provided input thus far, I really appreciate it.
A few things I did after rooting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdHITAD4M3Y
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A few things I did after rooting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdHITAD4M3Y
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Where can I download that home/back button you have on the right? Seems pretty handy for the Nook.
Thanks in advance
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Where can I download that home/back button you have on the right? Seems pretty handy for the Nook.
Thanks in advance
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You can find it on Android Market, search for com.smart.swkey (I'm still a noob, so the forum doesn't let me post links)
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You can find it on Android Market, search for com.smart.swkey (I'm still a noob, so the forum doesn't let me post links)
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Thanks allot! Works perfect for me.
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A few things I did after rooting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdHITAD4M3Y
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Very nice. Which version of Crackle did you install? I found an apk and installed but kept getting a "not compatible with your device" message.
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jimmysuggs said:
Sorry, I actually thought I was in the general Q&A section when I posted this question but I see I was wrong.
Can the thread maybe be moved?
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Thread moved to general
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Thanks for post - helped me out a bit when I customized my tablet
Any time someone says " I rooted my device, now what do I do?", the best answer is to unroot it. Superuser Permissions is a tool used to bypass the safeties built into Android OS. The whole point of root is to bypass all security measures. If you don't know why you need root, then you don't need root. It's a security risk. Once you're rooted, it's easy for a malicious app to screw up your device.
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Any time someone says " I rooted my device, now what do I do?", the best answer is to unroot it. Superuser Permissions is a tool used to bypass the safeties built into Android OS. The whole point of root is to bypass all security measures. If you don't know why you need root, then you don't need root. It's a security risk. Once you're rooted, it's easy for a malicious app to screw up your device.
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+1 Totally spot on. Most people *don't* need to root. If it's confusing, don't do it! Install whatever applications you want from an SD card - the majority *will work.* You bought a media device so have fun with it! The ones that don't work tend to be other tools to help you manage rooted devices, heh (and keyboards, bah!). The default for most apps isn't too bad though on this device (including keyboard).
AdamOutler said:
Any time someone says " I rooted my device, now what do I do?", the best answer is to unroot it. Superuser Permissions is a tool used to bypass the safeties built into Android OS. The whole point of root is to bypass all security measures. If you don't know why you need root, then you don't need root. It's a security risk. Once you're rooted, it's easy for a malicious app to screw up your device.
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Ever try running zergRush on a device rooted with zergRush, just to get adb running under root?
You can't, you have to su to do it. At least I can't on my nook.
Usually rooted devices are more secure imho ;-) If they were secure to begin with then they couldn't be rooted, odds are rooting plugs at least one security hole. A good rootkit will plug it's own exploit anyhow.
Of course that depends on the user not to blindly click yes whenever it asks for superuser permission, but the requirement of having rooted your device to begin which likely weeds a bit of that out....maybe...
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Any time someone says " I rooted my device, now what do I do?", the best answer is to unroot it.
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I find this to be a rather closed minded statement. It's like telling someone they shouldn't ever try to fix their own car. This is how we LEARN things. Asking questions, taking chances. Granted there's a learning curve and granted you take risks when you root your tablet, but the fact remains that if you don't take risks, you gain nothing. And I think the "you don't know what you're doing so don't even try" attitude is pointless and slightly offensive.
The idea is to LEARN and GROW and gain insight into the inner workings of the android system. Not only for our own benefit, but for the benefit of others, so we can pass that knowledge along. If the only people allowed access to that info are the people that already have it- this little circle of friends is going to die out rather quickly.
Instead of assuming people are too stupid to learn how and why to root, why not lend a helping hand to those seeking knowledge and guidance?
Just something to consider.
I am very Noob in this, but I have questions that I am sure that are gonna help a lot of people.
I am going to buy a cheap e-reader/tablet, and I have seen that the two best options are Nook Tablet and Kindle Fire.
The difference between the prices is 50USD, and I accept them. But I want to permanent root my device, so, the question is:
If I permanent root the Nook Tablet, will I be able to access all the device memory? Because without rooting it is limited to 1GB.. Will I be able to put for example 4gb of video without MicroSD?
Because if I cant access all the storage, I will have to buy a 16gb microSD.. So the difference between the two devices will be about 80USD, which is quite a lot.
The other questions are: Can you really access the Android Market and download apps if you root the Nook Tablet?
What does that means that the bootloader in the Nook tablet is locked? Is the rooting going to be unstable for that?
Thank you very much.
All these questions have been answered to other threads. Please read or search for them.
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All these questions have been answered to other threads. Please read or search for them.
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I have been in a lot of forums, and I know perfectly that before you ask, you have to search for your questions. I have been about half hours looking for them, and I have found different answers, so I need the real one.
Some answers say that you can only access all the memory for the installed apps, but not for all the medias.. others say that you always need a MicroSD card.. so, tell me please, which of those threads is the truth?
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Some answers say that you can only access all the memory for the installed apps, but not for all the medias.. others say that you always need a MicroSD card.. so, tell me please, which of those threads is the truth?
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The first one. You install to the internal, and can make folders (I suggest putting them in data or media, and not anywhere in the main directory) anywhere. Downloads from other app stores and ebook stores save all over the place, but usually by default to an SD card. Just learn to use a file manager and expect to root it.
It's easier to get every other application/store/video to run on a rooted Nook Tablet (compared to a KF), but it'll be much easier to make custom roms for a Kindle Fire due to the bootloader. What this means is that: if you have a kindle, you will sit around fiddling with rooting and unrooting if you want their Instant Video to work, until a whole new rom (entire OS overhaul) is available. In comparison you can root a Nook Tablet, and put whatever you want on it and run it and most things will work (if they're tablet apps, and depending on what stores you use), but it will be much harder to load a new OS on it, if ever. For someone who wants to hack and mod a tablet, they will want to do it on a device that is supports it (KF). For someone that wants to read books, play games, watch videos, read comics, very easily right off the bat (with 10 min of work), the Nook Tablet is better (and has a few important higher specs).
And the suggestion to find the many threads that answer your question wasn't "go out there and find other forums with lots of conflicting answers" but *SCROLL DOWN.*
skipped said:
I am very Noob in this, but I have questions that I am sure that are gonna help a lot of people.
I am going to buy a cheap e-reader/tablet, and I have seen that the two best options are Nook Tablet and Kindle Fire.
The difference between the prices is 50USD, and I accept them. But I want to permanent root my device, so, the question is:
If I permanent root the Nook Tablet, will I be able to access all the device memory? Because without rooting it is limited to 1GB.. Will I be able to put for example 4gb of video without MicroSD?
Because if I cant access all the storage, I will have to buy a 16gb microSD.. So the difference between the two devices will be about 80USD, which is quite a lot.
The other questions are: Can you really access the Android Market and download apps if you root the Nook Tablet?
What does that means that the bootloader in the Nook tablet is locked? Is the rooting going to be unstable for that?
Thank you very much.
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There are definitive answers, so I don't know that you've searched all that much. However, to answer some of your questions:
Yes, you can install the market once rooted, and the bootloader being locked means that the simplest solutions for installing new ROMs will not work. People are trying workarounds at the moment, but there is no ETA. This has no bearing on having the device rooted.
I think it is also important to mention that until a verified means of preventing OTA updates to the system is created, it is possible your device to become un-rooted after it updates itself.
So far, I have seen no sure-fire ways to prevent the NT from updating itself - only guesses. So your "permanent root" may not be so permanent for the time being.
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Means custom roms can't be created as of yet. Give it time.
Why do so many people keep repeating "over the air updates may remove root..." Maybe it will, maybe it won't. You must accept an OTA update. If you are worried about root, don't accept the update until you know what it will do. Seems simple to me.
Is there even a patch for the zergrush expolit?
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1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Means custom roms can't be created as of yet. Give it time.
Why do so many people keep repeating "over the air updates may remove root..." Maybe it will, maybe it won't. You must accept an OTA update. If you are worried about root, don't accept the update until you know what it will do. Seems simple to me.
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For the KF at least, its coming in the form of silent updates. Once you're on wifi, the update is pushed down.
Honestly its a hazard of the game until we have different roms. If they plug the hole, they plug it. I'm holding out for the ROM solution, regardless of elegant/inelegant the solution proves to be.
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JoeM01 said:
For the KF at least, its coming in the form of silent updates. Once you're on wifi, the update is pushed down.
Honestly its a hazard of the game until we have different roms. If they plug the hole, they plug it. I'm holding out for the ROM solution, regardless of elegant/inelegant the solution proves to be.
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True enough. Often inelegant=most effective. Same when I first rooted my TF101. Used the ADB root. Which meant I had to self-teach ADB. Best thing that happened as not only I achieved root but learned something new that has helped with other devices.
dkb218 said:
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Means custom roms can't be created as of yet. Give it time.
Why do so many people keep repeating "over the air updates may remove root..." Maybe it will, maybe it won't. You must accept an OTA update. If you are worried about root, don't accept the update until you know what it will do. Seems simple to me.
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If the NT does OTA updates like the NC there is no prompt to accept the update, just a message that the update occurred. It is not the same as a phone.
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I got my anticipated "Prime" today. You cannot imagine the sheer glee I was going through, tossing my own 32GB Class 10 Micro into it.
All prepared to restore Apps from my TF101, I was not prepared for the message I received after reloading Titanium Backup.
"Sorry I could not acquire root privileges. This application will *not* work!"
During the "true joy" that was my TF101, I guess that I didn't pay attention to that little caveat when I backed it up with Titanium before I sold it in prep for the "Glorious Prime".
Has anyone here had enough experience with Titanium to know whether this "roadblock" is absolutely insurmountable?
Can I lie to it? Can I "fake it out"?
I would love to get this restore done.
Can I lie to it? Can I "fake it out"?
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OR you can just root....
easy solution. just root your device and reload titanium. we have root now. just go to developement section for the Viper Mod Primer tool. it uses Nachoroot, made by jcase, and makes the process easy. or you could go adb route and push root through like that. wither way check out Nachoroot thread AND VIPER thread on Android developement section.
Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1427125
there is a guide to root it available in the dev section.
I want a root that will JUST give me access to the Android Market/Amazon App Store. No full Android UI, no extra hacking/rooting tools, JUST the App Store(s). Does anybody know of a root that will do this?
Thanks!
tb01110100 said:
I want a root that will JUST give me access to the Android Market/Amazon App Store. No full Android UI, no extra hacking/rooting tools, JUST the App Store(s). Does anybody know of a root that will do this?
Thanks!
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Plz go read this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1354487 . . imho, you want to block OTA.
Permanent?
Is there a way to UNroot it?
try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1439630
The phrase "a root" indicates you don't fully understand what root is, which is completely understandable. We all start somewhere.
I highly suggest you read my thread here before you do anything.
OP - I originally got onto these forums a few months ago for the exact same reason: to gain access to the Market. I performed the (very easy) root method outlined in these forums and quickly realized how much of the world I had been missing on my NT. Since I rooted it, I've had an absolute blast with my NT. I know you don't want to actually root your device, but you just may want to consider it in light of how much fun you will have with it.
Just my two cents from a new guy with absolutely no experience with doing stuff like this. It's really been worth it.
I have recently bought an Onyx Boox Note. This is an E-Ink device that runs Android 6.0.1. It has a 10.3 inch display, 2 gb of RAM, and 32 gb of internal storage. No sd card slot. There is no custom recovery available for it, to my knowledge. Neither Kingoroot nor Kingroot were able to root it. I have adb access to the Note, however, but not fastboot.
Any suggestions as to what I could try? Let me know if you need more info about the device.
Thanks for your help.
Update: I have achieved root. I used King Root which finally worked after a couple of attempts. I then used the SuperSuMe Pro app to switch myself over to SuperSU. All is well now.
OT, So is the device worth the $$$?
manderson8898 said:
OT, So is the device worth the $$$?
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That depends on how you plan to use it. (The price is not out of line if you compare it with an iPad or some similarly sized Android tablet.)
The best answer I can give you is to offer you a checklist of various features. If you can say "yes" to most, if not all, of them, then the Note might be worth the cost for you.
1) Your eyes like E-Ink much more than LED.
2) You want a device light enough for lengthy ebook reading sessions, yet large enough to comfortably read pdfs.
3) You want the ability to install apps of your choice (Instapaper, Moon Reader, Outlook, Office, whatever...)
4) A frontlight is not essential.
5) A sd card slot is not essential.
6) Bluetooth capability is important.
7) Note-taking with a stylus is important to you.
8) Audio capability is useful to you.
9) You find the older crop of E-Ink devices too slow.
There may be other features you may value, but this will do as a general checklist. Then you can see for yourself if the Note is worth the money or not.
Please we need root!!!! I was not able to get root with my firmware!!!!
Hi, Where did you buy this device? I like it and my eyes are tied of LCD screens.
More one question: Could you please show some pictures with taking notes on Onenote?
Thanks
IurMal said:
Hi, Where did you buy this device? I like it and my eyes are tied of LCD screens.
More one question: Could you please show some pictures with taking notes on Onenote?
Thanks
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I bought my device from here.
I don't have OneNote installed on my device. However, if you check out the Onyx threads on Mobileread, you'll find reports that there is a significant lag when someone takes notes with OneNote, or any third party app. The stock Note app works much better - but that doesn't help you, unfortunately.
I don't use the note-taking functions very much, other that annotations and the like on pdfs.
IurMal said:
Hi, Where did you buy this device? I like it and my eyes are tied of LCD screens.
More one question: Could you please show some pictures with taking notes on Onenote?
Thanks
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The Android applications for taking notes are not ready for this device yet (if they use the Note's SDK, that will be much different history), they have a lot of lag, but instead you can use the built in note application and the is like writing in paper.
I use it to read book and the web.
Need help
Guys, thanks a lot for answers. Actually I need an e-ink device on Android with a big screen and capable to run the app JW Library. But because this devise is new on the market, I am afraid to spent the money (and it is not a cheap one) and discover that it can not run this app smoothly. I have a Kindle Paper White and I love it, but its screen is too small and it is not an Android.
May I ask you guys a favor?
Could someone of you guys to install this app from Google Store and to download just some magazines and books and to try to turn pages, to click on references and to see how it works (the app does not require registration). I think with 2 Gb of RAM and 4 core proc. it should work smoothly as much as the e-ink screen allows, but I am afraid to buy it and discover that this app is too heavy for the Note and its software.
Please, I need a help with this.
Thank you in advance for the help!
P.S.: It would be great if someone could attache a picture of the Note with this app working/opened if it is not too much to ask for.
I might be able to try it tomorrow. One of the main reasons why I bought the Note was its ability to run the Logos Bible Software app - and the Note runs it perfectly. I'll see what I can do about pics. I can attach screenshots as well.
ERASED.
citytrader said:
I did the test, is not like turning pages because the application has the scroll vertical and the experience was smooth (smooth as an eink allows), the experience was like Galaxy TAB S with a display a bit slower than the Galaxy.
This device for reading is really amazing, I believe till now is the best in the market.
The screenshots are in the attachment.
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Thanks a lot! I am very grateful for your help. Yes, this devise is definitively for me. :good:
IurMal said:
Thanks a lot! I am very grateful for your help. Yes, this devise is definitively for me. :good:
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@IurMal: How is it going with the JW Library on an Onyx Boox Note? Does this device have to be rooted? I am looking for a decent e-ink device which can run the JW Library flawlessly.
JNeuhoff said:
@IurMal: How is it going with the JW Library on an Onyx Boox Note? Does this device have to be rooted? I am looking for a decent e-ink device which can run the JW Library flawlessly.
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Stop posting off topic questions. If you are interested in religion/sects stuff or spread religion/sect content, this is not the forum.
citytrader said:
Stop posting off topic questions. If you are interested in religion/sects stuff or spread religion/sect content, this is not the forum.
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If you are the forum moderator feel free to remove my message if you believe it violates the forum rules.
My question was about Onyx Boox Note and whether it can run certain software installed from Google Play flawlessly without the need to root this device.
Windsor1959 said:
Update: I have achieved root. I used King Root which finally worked after a couple of attempts. I then used the SuperSuMe Pro app to switch myself over to SuperSU. All is well now.
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Hello Windsor1959, I have a ONYX BOOX Note too, but the >Pro< Version
I tried the apk and Windows-Software from the link you provided (Thank You for sharing!! :laugh, but I could not do it:
KingRoot.apk and Windows Application with USB + ADB, everytime it replies "no root possible", even after factory reset and multiple on/off tries;
Because I don't have an open boot-loader I cant do much else, or can I ??
6.0.1 Android Marshmallow should have enough holes in it, no?
HettlerM78 said:
Hello Windsor1959, I have a ONYX BOOX Note too, but the >Pro< Version
I tried the apk and Windows-Software from the link you provided (Thank You for sharing!! :laugh, but I could not do it:
KingRoot.apk and Windows Application with USB + ADB, everytime it replies "no root possible", even after factory reset and multiple on/off tries;
Because I don't have an open boot-loader I cant do much else, or can I ??
6.0.1 Android Marshmallow should have enough holes in it, no?
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After one of the firmware updates, I was unable to get root again. So Onyx must have changed something, which made it harder to root the device. To be honest, I think I lucked out in getting root in the first place!
Yes, you'd think that Marshmallow would have plenty of holes in it! But I haven't seen anyone else get root on a Note, either, since then.
If anyone else reading this has, please tell us how you did it!
Windsor1959 said:
After one of the firmware updates, I was unable to get root again. So Onyx must have changed something, which made it harder to root the device. To be honest, I think I lucked out in getting root in the first place!
Yes, you'd think that Marshmallow would have plenty of holes in it! But I haven't seen anyone else get root on a Note, either, since then.
If anyone else reading this has, please tell us how you did it!
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Just to confirm what @Windsor1959 encountered that previously I was able to obtain root through Kingroot. Recently I updated the firmware for my Onyx Boox Note and I tried to root again with Kingroot but was not successful. I encounter this post while I am searching for method to root it again (very unlikely at this point).
If anyone is still interested.
Hacking the Onyx Boox Note Air E-Ink Tablet
I recently bought a Onyx Boox Note Air E-Ink tablet. Here are some methods to access various parts of the system, including root access.
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