Guys, I totally agree with the two main points of discussion:
1) I am so pissed that when I pre-ordered the Prime on Nov 22 and wasnt given a date (officially and unofficially) I was expecting it in my hands immediately. And now to find out that the date is Dec 19 is such a disappointment to me. Why wherent my unfounded expectations met?!?!?! I will take my business elsewhere out of hatred for Asus for letting me down even! HOW DARE THEY!
2) the Battery/speaker sucks! OMG!!!! How come that thing I dont have doesnt have that thing I thought/wanted! Its like come on, give me everything I want IMMEDIATELY! I want it to feed my dog, wipe my ass, and give me a rubbie! UH! THE BATTERY IS 10:02 Hours instead of 10:15!?!?! WTF FUFUFUFUFUF ASUS! The speaker on this thin ass tablet is not fit well? WTF! I plan on using this tablet as my home stereo!
ASUS, HOW DARE YOU NOT MEET MY IDIOTIC EXPECTATIONS WITH A PRODUCT THAT ISNT SHIPPED OR IN MY HAND?!?!?!?!?!
/sarcasm. ill sit here and wait for my shipment. gracias.
EDIT: made to help the humor-less nerds understand
I laughed when I saw the tread title then even more so from reading your post. I was like oh lord, here we go again..lmfao. Your post basically summarizes what most complaints have been about. Glad to see it was a joke, a good one at that.
You have to admit speaker placement blows and wasnt thouht out very well at all.
First thought You're a super troll
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Wait.......I'm sensing some sarcasm here....
You know what was a REAL let down?
Your mom.
I'm disappointed with the placement and look of the camera and flash on the back of the Prime. It kinda looks like one of these faces
So now every time I'm going to look at it, I'm going to think my Prime is giving me a goofy look and it'll make me self conscious. I have enough problems already without being judged by my tablet.
I was hoping the Prime would cure Cancer and wipe out all traces of AIDS. I was wrong.
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I have enough problems already without being judged by my tablet.
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That made me laugh harder than I have all day.
Why send a negative voice? For those who don't know better and sees the title is likely gonna turn away from buying it. I know its suppose to be sarcastic, but.. anyway.
I was hoping that this thread would be filled with whiners and canceling their orders so I can get mine quicker!
Nice Job OP
I love this tablet and my biggest complaint is that I can't get it fast enough.
That said, why do some people get weird when we discuss a product, it's good and bad points? After all nothing is going to be perfect. Nothing is expected to be perfect. Those of us that are criticizing the speaker are just labeled "whiners"? Come on, it's just a discussion. Nothing to get snarky about.
Guess what, the Transformer Prime is NOT perfect. It's incredibly awesome in my opinion, I need it now. But I think it's okay for me to wish the speaker was better and pray the battery is decent as well.
By far the biggest problem is that I don't have the damn thing my hands yet!!
Plain and simple....if you want a product made the way you want it, build it yourself. Invest the money that it would take and build yourself a tablet. Then as you contemplate what to include in your build, you'll notice that you can't put this or that in it, and then you end up right where the manufacturers are: the tablet you tried to build that was already built.
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By far the biggest problem is that I don't have the damn thing my hands yet!!
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it's the worst problem there is for me too!
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Those of us that are criticizing the speaker are just labeled "whiners"?
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On a semi-serious note, I think the only problem with people complaining about the speaker(s) is that, so far, nobody here has actually HEARD it (them). And the reviews are all over the map: one said the sound is "full and loud" or somesuch, while another said the sound is disappointing (or somesuch), and the others seem to fall somewhere in between. So, we can't go by the reviews, meaning we'll have to wait to get the thing to judge for ourselves.
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On a semi-serious note, I think the only problem with people complaining about the speaker(s) is that, so far, nobody here has actually HEARD it (them). And the reviews are all over the map: one said the sound is "full and loud" or somesuch, while another said the sound is disappointing (or somesuch), and the others seem to fall somewhere in between. So, we can't go by the reviews, meaning we'll have to wait to get the thing to judge for ourselves.
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Nail on head!!! All the complaints have been from people who have not touched the device. They are basing it off reviews, Lets hold the facts for when it's in our hands!
Hahaha!! You mean the prime is NOT the answer to all of mankinds problems??? The shock!!!!
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I was hoping the Prime would cure Cancer and wipe out all traces of AIDS. I was wrong.
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well I'm not cancelling my pre order worse case scenario if it doesn't, make me have an orgasm I'll sell it on eBay! Because I know stores are going to sell out fast and one that initial shipment is gone its gonna be a long wait.
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Nail on head!!! All the complaints have been from people who have not touched the device. They are basing it off reviews, Lets hold the facts for when it's in our hands!
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But this is the "Eee Pad Transformer Prime General" forum. We came here to discuss it. Naturally nobody has this in their hands other than reviewers. So we have to discuss what they told us. I'm not sure what the problem is with that.
Related
http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/10/2627270/asus-denies-rumors-of-transformer-prime-delay
EDIT: I wouldn't trust this with all my heart either. As Asus's response is rather fishy and can be interpreted multiple ways.
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I am being patiently optimistic. I want to believe it but I will maintain a healthy skepticism until the box is in my hands.
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I am being patiently optimistic. I want to believe it but I will maintain a healthy skepticism until the box is in my hands.
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Part of me wants to believe it. Part of me still cannot explain the reported wifi issues on that chinese forum.
Do we know if this statement covers Canada as well? My Amazon.ca pre-order still shows Jan 31st as the expected ship date (ordered on Nov 26).
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Do we know if this statement covers Canada as well? My Amazon.ca pre-order still shows Jan 31st as the expected ship date (ordered on Nov 26).
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Hopefully. If the NCIX email was false then we (Canada) should be back on track. However, the Amazon delay is a stock issue rather than a delay as far as I know.
I'm in no way trying to be a mod, but was this thread needed? Was there not a thread posted earlier in regards to the phandroid and androidcentral articles based on the other thread where someone posted their letter from NCIX? Either way even though the rep used very loose words if you can read in between the lines, it pretty much falls in line with what I said. US is most likely on track still, just not a huge initial alotment. As an aside, these forums seemed to be going crazy today. I guess everyone is really anxious over the Prime, which they ought to be, and every article or piece of information regarding it, is driving everyone to the edge. We all need to just do whatever we usually do to relax and just enjoy talking about the tablet we are all looking forward to while we wait.
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http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/10/2627270/asus-denies-rumors-of-transformer-prime-delay
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Thank you, although I know I got on ur case in another thread..lmao I ran out of thanks. THIS IS THE FIRST ARTICLE THAT ACTUALLY HAS INFORMATION FROM THE HORSES MOUTH. The words that came out of the horses mouth, Asus, said there is no delay and they still on track for Dec. 19th release. Also verge, is thinkn theres no real widespread wifi issue.
I'm not by far an android fanboy. That person wouldn't own an iPad like I do. I'm a fan of technology in general. No matter the maker. It's just that this device is very promising and has already be said, by several big name sites, to be the best Android tablet by far, so far. To many people trying to nit pick negative info and rain on peoples parade and excitement of this new device which will be a first of it's kind in more ways than one. the majority of people who preordered still stickn with it.
Mission failed at trying to scare the real tech heads away from this device.
That's it... to much BS floating around here, and not enough facts... which is fine, but there are threads popping up every few minutes now about the release date... we need a moderator on this forum... Be putting this off for a while, but I'm volunteering.
See you on the flip side, and hopefully I'll be able to clean some of this crap up.
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I'm in no way trying to be a mod, but was this thread needed? Was there not a thread posted earlier in regards to the phandroid and androidcentral articles based on the other thread where someone posted their letter from NCIX? Either way even though the rep used very loose words if you can read in between the lines, it pretty much falls in line with what I said. US is most likely on track still, just not a huge initial alotment. As an aside, these forums seemed to be going crazy today. I guess everyone is really anxious over the Prime, which they ought to be, and every article or piece of information regarding it, is driving everyone to the edge. We all need to just do whatever we usually do to relax and just enjoy talking about the tablet we are all looking forward to while we wait.
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Actually this thread was needed.. With all the unofficial rumor threads going around. This first article to state official Asus statement saying there is no delay and basically no widespread wifi issues. You have new people checking out this forum section and see all these rumor threads/negative ones and it might deter them from a great device.
Not everyone smart enough to read in-between the lines. It's obvious that slot of people here will believe anything, with no official source to back it up. I'm like you though, I'm ready to relax. Once I get my tablet n everything fine, I'll be sitting back laughing at all these mofos so quick to jump to conclusions. They never gave the prime a fair trial. Innocent until proven guilty. They already giving out guilty verdict without no real evidence that's relevant enough. Lol
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That's it... to much BS floating around here, and not enough facts... which is fine, but there are threads popping up every few minutes now about the release date... we need a moderator on this forum... Be putting this off for a while, but I'm volunteering.
See you on the flip side, and hopefully I'll be able to clean some of this crap up.
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Well it's not like there is much to talk about other than rumours and release dates and such.
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*snip* We all need to just do whatever we usually do to relax and just enjoy talking about the tablet we are all looking forward to while we wait.
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I would, but I sold my Galaxy Tab 10.1 to buy the TP... so I'm jonesin' man, I need a fix! Just a minute, just let me play with the tablet for a minute! Or even look at it! Just to get me over the hump... c'mon man, I'm hurtin' here!
...ok, but no, really, I hadn't realized how much a tablet had changed my technology habits until I no longer had one. Crazy how a device I wasn't quite sure how I was going to use became, in such a short time, my go-to device.
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That's it... to much BS floating around here, and not enough facts... which is fine, but there are threads popping up every few minutes now about the release date... we need a moderator on this forum... Be putting this off for a while, but I'm volunteering.
See you on the flip side, and hopefully I'll be able to clean some of this crap up.
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lol it just sounds like you want power.
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I would, but I sold my Galaxy Tab 10.1 to buy the TP... so I'm jonesin' man, I need a fix! Just a minute, just let me play with the tablet for a minute! Or even look at it! Just to get me over the hump... c'mon man, I'm hurtin' here!
...ok, but no, really, I hadn't realized how much a tablet had changed my technology habits until I no longer had one. Crazy how a device I wasn't quite sure how I was going to use became, in such a short time, my go-to device.
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yea, me to.. i got my ipad stolen 2 months ago, I AM JONESIN SOMETHING FIERCE!
i take a ****, ipad.
I go to bed, Ipad
I'm bored of xbox, ipad.
I wanna watch youpoop or read, IPAD!!!!!
hell i can't even get drunk at my friends house because i get bored without my IPAD!! i CAN. NOT. WAIT! for my asus.
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Actually this thread was needed.. With all the unofficial rumor threads going around. This first article to state official Asus statement saying there is no delay and basically no widespread wifi issues. You have new people checking out this forum section and see all these rumor threads/negative ones and it might deter them from a great device.
Not everyone smart enough to read in-between the lines. It's obvious that slot of people here will believe anything, with no official source to back it up. I'm like you though, I'm ready to relax. Once I get my tablet n everything fine, I'll be sitting back laughing at all these mofos so quick to jump to conclusions. They never gave the prime a fair trial. Innocent until proven guilty. They already giving out guilty verdict without no real evidence that's relevant enough. Lol
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Haha ok fine, I take back that part of my statement. Your thread is ok. I was just hoping people would try to consolidate all of information instead of creating multiple threads.
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I would, but I sold my Galaxy Tab 10.1 to buy the TP... so I'm jonesin' man, I need a fix! Just a minute, just let me play with the tablet for a minute! Or even look at it! Just to get me over the hump... c'mon man, I'm hurtin' here!
...ok, but no, really, I hadn't realized how much a tablet had changed my technology habits until I no longer had one. Crazy how a device I wasn't quite sure how I was going to use became, in such a short time, my go-to device.
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I feel you, I sold my TF to get the Prime and I'm just waiting myself. I try to keep my mind occupied and not think about it. Although everyday I check my order status on Newegg. lol
I'll believe it when Asus mentions something on an official channel.
Since all this speculation is the only entertainment I have as I study for finals i will play devil's advocate here.
That statement from asus is about as vague as it comes. we still "show" to be on schedule? If they are on schedule why not say they ARE on schedule to be released? Why beat around the bush?
Also the whole I will provide an update when i have more information? What more information are you waiting for if there is no delay? I thought you had the information and knew what you were talking about?
Finally why is there absolutely no actual reference to the delay or wifi issue? A simple, no there is no wifi issue, no there is no delay would allay everyone's concerns, but instead all we have is a very vague statement that does not fully dispel anything.
MUAHAHA let the war begin!
But really I think I may have been the first to post about the possible delay when I received an email from memory express stating there was some sort of production delay. Since then it only seems like NCIX has mentioned this to their customers so something weird is going on. It is odd that both retailers would mention a production delay if they were not told that was the case. But really it seems like the possibilities are there is some small problem with a few units (perhaps like the anandtech reviewers received, as in actually broken units) and asus happens to be reducing the units NCIX and memory express are getting. Or they simply do not have enough to fullfill all orders and are cutting out units from NCIX and memory express to fulfill other orders and then NCIX and memory express are lying to us.
I honestly believe the first is probably the most likely as I cant imagine first off memory express and NCIX both choosing to lie to their customers like that (and in my email they were actually quite explicit saying the Asus Vice President for North America Sales and Distribution contacted them about the delay. That is a pretty blatant lie to be telling customers.
Either way I'm staying hopeful I will get my unit sometime during the holiday season as I will be in alberta where the taxes I would have to pay is quite a bit lower! So come on anytime before Jan 4th! And hell if it turns out they lied to me about the whole vice president delay blah blah blah I'll give them hell and maybe get something out of it!
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Since all this speculation is the only entertainment I have as I study for finals i will play devil's advocate here.
That statement from asus is about as vague as it comes. we still "show" to be on schedule? If they are on schedule why not say they ARE on schedule to be released? Why beat around the bush?
Also the whole I will provide an update when i have more information? What more information are you waiting for if there is no delay? I thought you had the information and knew what you were talking about?
Finally why is there absolutely no actual reference to the delay or wifi issue? A simple, no there is no wifi issue, no there is no delay would allay everyone's concerns, but instead all we have is a very vague statement that does not fully dispel anything.
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I may not know much about companys and how they operate, but it seems like there most likely is an wifi issue with what they had to say. Like you said, why not just be like.. NOPE NOPE NOPE wifi good, we good, we give you soon?
there beating are bush and its way to fishy to me. I bet theres a wifi issue, but i don't think its a big deal, its probably a few models are screwed and the rest arn't as good as an laptop (do to what i read an another thread)
This was posted on slashgear's web site sorry I am not allowed to post the web link.
Late last night rumors hit the street that the ASUS Transformer Prime had been delayed and I’m sure a few were saddened by such news. After almost every online retails has sold out of the new quad-core slate we were quick to reach out to ASUS for an official response and have good news to report. According to our sources everything is on track and as planned.
Slashgear reported the samething
http://www.slashgear.com/asus-puts-delay-rumor-to-rest-confirms-transformer-prime-is-on-schedule-10201473/
So apparently some ASUS phone rep claimed deliveries are not delayed, what a shock. The loyal minions are will take this as some sort of official guarantee from Mr. Asus.
The level of baseless negativity here astounds me. It's almost as if people want to believe the thing will arrive 6 months late and is a piece of crap.
Not sure if we have had one of these yet, but i would love to hear from the people who got a proper (or close to proper) prime.
Has it lived up to your expectations? Whats your fave thing about it? was it worth your green backs?
Omg...pls close this topic...
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Hey mibo666 - I see you are from Poland - like me.
Did you order Prime in Euro AGD? I did. Tomorrow will be available to pick up. Can;t wait...
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Omg...pls close this topic...
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good thing you are here to tell them which threads to close.. man thanks for the great posts.
IMO this thread is needed - so much negativity about the prime elsewhere and nobody's coming on to tell us any good experiences. Makes me want to cancel my pre-order.
Shelfty said:
IMO this thread is needed - so much negativity about the prime elsewhere and nobody's coming on to tell us any good experiences. Makes me want to cancel my pre-order.
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agree.. i love my prime.. its the best android tablet out there right now. the build is the best out of any tablet.
the honeycomb bugs are still there, they are 10x better with the quad core and less noticeable. all comes down to ICS.
if was to sit in my closet with the lights off while my tab boots i could see a light bleed, good thing i don't use my tablet ever in the closet with my lights off. so i'm good with that.
Had the original Transformer as well as a whole host of other tablets. I still say this concept of the detachable hard dock is the most productive I've ever had. The added battery life and a mouse make it feel like an honest laptop replacement. In terms of comparing the new and old Prime, the new one has some obvious advantages in terms of size I really like the weight of it. I do agree with those who said it is a little harder to hold, the metal makes it a little more slick. When I have been using it as a reading tablet for a period of time it does matter
Flaws... well, my GPS doesn't work. I don't know that I care, but since I paid for it I want it to work. Since I have the Galaxy Nexus I realy like ICS, so I hope like hell we get it soon. THe camera facing you isn't great, but oh well. And docked it is definately top heavy and prone to tip. They should have distributed the weight a little more evenly.
Do I like it a lot? Yes! Do I love it? Not yet, but I have a feeling I will
Finally got mine and so far, I'm loving it. Love the weight. Zippy, no lag. GPS doesn't work, but I'm not terribly concerned with that at the moment. Everyone here at work is Ohhh-ing and Ahhh-ing.
My biggest gripe right now is that "everything" seems to be backordered. Waiting for a case and the dock.
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Not sure if we have had one of these yet, but i would love to hear from the people who got a proper (or close to proper) prime.
Has it lived up to your expectations? Whats your fave thing about it? was it worth your green backs?
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Here is a thread created a few days ago called "The Positive TP Thread". It's basically the same thing as this one. You can go there and read some more of people's positives about it.
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Not sure if we have had one of these yet, but i would love to hear from the people who got a proper (or close to proper) prime.
Has it lived up to your expectations? Whats your fave thing about it? was it worth your green backs?
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you know this thread is just a cry out for this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
I appreciate this thread. I got mine yesterday and I am a HUGE fan of it. Everything seems to be working very well. I've been trying to run it thru it's paces, keeping the brightness all the way up, just looks amazing.
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you know this thread is just a cry out for this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
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This can go both ways as well though, positive or negative. More people tend to post negative stuff and not positive posts, because the positive people are playing with there TP and are to busy to post here . I don't own one yet, I am hoping today is the day though!
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This can go both ways as well though, positive or negative. More people tend to post negative stuff and not positive posts, because the positive people are playing with there TP and are to busy to post here . I don't own one yet, I am hoping today is the day though!
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Yes, funny how some folks point out such things as "confirmation bias" only to... well... confirm their own negative bias. It's downright ironic.
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Finally got mine and so far, I'm loving it. Love the weight. Zippy, no lag. GPS doesn't work, but I'm not terribly concerned with that at the moment. Everyone here at work is Ohhh-ing and Ahhh-ing.
My biggest gripe right now is that "everything" seems to be backordered. Waiting for a case and the dock.
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B&H had the case in stock and it will be here tomorow.
I love everything about the TP. I've seen no lag whatsoever. The games look awesome. I plugged in the Hdmi cable and played shadowgun on my plasma tv and it looked great. The bluetooth controller from Gamestop is pretty slick also. I personally think it flies on the Internet. Page transitions are very fluid. I've read some negative comments about it's speaker but the one that it does have sounds great.
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you know this thread is just a cry out for this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
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Agree. Let's all just ***** instead. Also, somebody posted this exact same link (and post) last week, as somebody else was trying to inject something positive into this den of negativity. I have to ask... Why pee on somebody's parade?
Mine is nearly flawless, and I am glad I made my purchase decision. The very few issues I have with it are due to apps stability.
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Yes, funny how some folks point out such things as "confirmation bias" only to... well... confirm their own negative bias. It's downright ironic.
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that's not ironic, and I dont have any bias towards the Prime as I don't have mine yet (will by next Tuesday) so I can't judge the device negatively or positively.
But ever since I saw that word posted on this board I couldn't help but see how frequently many here are actively looking for information to fit their needs. Its an easy way to set yourself up for disappointment at worst, or be pleasantly surprised if underestimate it.
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actually this thread doesn't. its more of the majority of negative threads/comments being thrown around lately. based on that definition from wiki. this tread is good and needed although there's a similar one called the positive transformer thread.
to the OP, I think from my various posts, lol, you can see that I love my device. it has been performing great and has no issues I've noticed, so far. this is way better than my Ipad all around. can't wait till developement starts, ICS, and more tegra3 games being released. this purchase was more than worth the money. I'm so glad that I didn't let the negativity, before and after release, deter me away from this device. especially since its performing so well for me right now. definitely is the best tablet out now, by far and will more than likely be that way for at least the next 4-6 months.
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I love everything about the TP. I've seen no lag whatsoever. The games look awesome. I plugged in the Hdmi cable and played shadowgun on my plasma tv and it looked great. The bluetooth controller from Gamestop is pretty slick also. I personally think it flies on the Internet. Page transitions are very fluid. I've read some negative comments about it's speaker but the one that it does have sounds great.
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if you want a great volume boost to the already great sound get volume+. there's a thread on it in themes and apps section. I bit the bullet and got it last night. I confirmed the major increase in volume level with a decibel reader. it consistently showed increase in volume/decibels with speaker mod on. it ridiculous how much more louder and bass output this thing has now. and the sound was already great before. this just makes it even better. check out the thread.
lol theres a few haters on this thread eh? i just don't get why people say anything, it doesn't affect you. I guess they want to show off there e-peen.
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Well, at least it's not as bad as having to buy locked-in, walled garden Apple stuff.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome
Not meant to single out fruit fans or others at all. The more I read threads here, the more I can only think that the forum is getting cluttered with crap from non-Prime owners, so that folks researching steer clear of the device, as if it were a concerted effort...
Then again, I could just be taking the conspiracy theorist avenue here, unwittingly. Who knows?
In reality, some have GPS issues, BT, Wifi, light bleed. I don't, so maybe that's tainting me. ICS was a fantastic upgrade for me as well, so maybe I'm just tainted toward the positive...
Anybody else?
lmfao this is almost as bad as the whiners and complainers here already, a conspiracy??
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Probably. Seems like something Apple would do.
xIC-MACIx said:
lmfao this is almost as bad as the whiners and complainers here already, a conspiracy??
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Not trying to convince anybody, but have thought it for weeks now, and I keep seeing threads and posts that have bolstered my hypothesis (to me).
This is an awful assumption. These issues are real. I would almost think the opposite of your opinion, that people are on here to make the Prime SOUND LIKE THERE ARE NO ISSUES!
All of the people with Perfect Primes, Perfect Screen, Perfect Wifi, Perfect GPS, No Screen Lifting, etc. I have a hard time believe ALL of them, not some of them.
Also, I have seen quotes like "Asus is trying to make it right!" "Asus is a great company." Etc.
Those have to be the biggest LOL statements to say about Asus right now.
I think Asus is behind it. They hate making money.
Lots of the plants seem a bit simple to be prime owners too. Maybe just needs more active moderation now the initial burst of activity is done.
Conspiracy is a strong word! I am sure just about every company highlights the weaknesses of their competitors. An Apple employee once seriously told a friend of mine that Android was unsecure, and it would be easy for bad persons to steal his credit card information if he used that OS. I doubt Apple told this employee to say that, but that kind of stuff goes on everywhere.
There are real issues with the Prime for many people. They are not happy about them, so they are complaining. My Prime has been great, except for a semi-weak GPS. (I can get 9-12 satellites outdoors without wi-fi OFF, but it takes a long time to lock compared to my phone and probably won't work in a moving vehicle.) The wi-fi is probably weak also, but I've never had trouble with it, so I'm fine. I'm sure Asus would love to have this whole Prime development/release to do over! I knew the issues ahead of time (as I am not a super early adopter), but I decided to buy the Prime anyway ... I have a phone for GPS navigation ... and probably would never have used the Prime for that, anyway.
I have no hard feelings toward Asus and feel they are doing their best to make things right. I will buy their products in the future without hesitation. However, since the product design is flawed in the wi-fi / gps arena, they can only do so much ... many people will remain unhappy because Asus really can't make this one completely right.
The prime forums make me want to give up on XDA. No matter what the device if you give two identical ones to two different people they will have different issues. The prime simply has some flaws that may or may not affect you. So does nearly every other product of any kind on the market. So what if they are releasing a another prime device? It's fairly in line with there development cycle. Hell the entire tablet industry is on a short dev cycle right now like smartphones have been.
I know I really enjoy my prime despite the fact it seems to have poor wifi reception and I dislike the power button & charge port placement.
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Lots of the plants seem a bit simple to be prime owners too. Maybe just needs more active moderation now the initial burst of activity is done.
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I agree, just need a few more Mod's that have time to work here on this forum. One guy isn't enough to work with 50+ threads a day on the same topic...
Get this guy a tinfoil hat, pronto!
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I agree, just need a few more Mod's that have time to work here on this forum. One guy isn't enough to work with 50+ threads a day on the same topic...
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+1000000000000000 That's probably more like it. There are blatant troll treads, but you're right about redundant gripe threads, to the point of it seeming like and utter spamfest of a hundred identical threads... by the same people, thread after thread.
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Get this guy a tinfoil hat, pronto!
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Lemme guess.. you reside in, or around, Cupertino?
There's just too many "should I buy it? I hear it sucks" threads for me to think there might be a smear effort going on... and I don't wear kleenex boxes on my feet.
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This is seriously the most bias review I have ever seen. He basically hates the phone because of the size and claims that it's not for anyone except Basketball players. Really?
Two local AT&T stores are currently sold out on this device. It's clearly selling. Zach should probably give up writing reviews and stick to opinion pieces.
http://www.bgr.com/2012/02/22/samsung-galaxy-note-review-the-smartphone-that-samsunged-samsung/
I've seen worse,
Is this the same review we discussed here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1495972
Edit: I see it has today's date. Guess he decided trashing it twice was better than once.
Yeah the initial review they did was pretty garbage, par for their site I guess, that's why I don't waste my time with them.
yeah the initial review was the "I've seen worse" lol
this is the same as seen in another thread. bgr are iphone fanboys anyhow.
unless you own an iphone there is no sense in even visiting that site..besides i think all the reviewwers there have freakishly small hands like the BK commercial..
Short man syndrome.
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unless you own an iphone there is no sense in even visiting that site..besides i think all the reviewwers there have freakishly small hands like the BK commercial..
Short man syndrome.
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Careful with the short man syndrome stuff... I got some small hands, am a short man, and would not give up the Note for anything! Why would I? I can use a tablet with any problems, I should definitely be able to use the Galaxy Note...
you know i honestly wonder if apple pays for sites like that.
Oh I dunno...he did stick with that stupid "they'll laugh at you". And if you're a fanatic of wanting to easily do things with just one hand, maybe the Note isn't for you. But almost the entire review was him praising the Note. I think the only other thing he was critical of was he wished they'd made the screen more smudge proof like on the S2.
But he did say if you wanted a large phone that would attract attention or a small tab, then this was def the phone for you. So I'm not exactly how biased against the phone he's being like Geller or whatever his name is.
I will say that this phone does indeed attract attention. My high school and middle school students were freaked out when they saw it on Mon and Tues. And the fellow teachers all wanted to play with it. I had it at the gym and a lot of people that saw it came up and asked what it was. A large percentage of them really liked it and were thinking about getting one because of the large screen to browse the web, play games, and work with files, etc.
I think not being able to text neatly with one hand is well worth all the benefits of this phone.
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you know i honestly wonder if apple pays for sites like that.
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I have seen strange things when it comes to competition in the market place.
That is all I am going to say....
codeworks said:
Careful with the short man syndrome stuff... I got some small hands, am a short man, and would not give up the Note for anything! Why would I? I can use a tablet with any problems, I should definitely be able to use the Galaxy Note...
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I meant no offense..
I'm believe the fact that I can't do a lot of things one handed easily as a bonus now. More times then not it simply stops me from using my phone when I really shouldn't.
Unfortunately, we are still living in an Apple world. It seems like more and more people are switching, and realizing that they've been duped into having a company tell them what's best for them. BGR is still under that company's spell.
This review wasn't nearly as bad as Johnathon's, but complaining about the size of smart phones nowadays is getting ridiculous. I could understand if it was an enormous brick, but it's more thin than the iP4.
Basically at this point, it does help to make a list of websites that are Apple-infested...and to avoid them completely. Obviously each click to their sites benefits them..so yeah.
I didn't bother opening the article...but seems like this other BGR guy also said no ones gonna buy the Note.
Based on 3 nearby at&t stores that I stopped by, they're currently sold out. When I asked them what kinds of people bought it, they said surprisingly iPhone people made the switch cuz they wanted the extra screen estate that's offered.
It really was a pretty fair review all the way up to the "size" paragraph. It will be hilarious looking back at the biased "journalism" of BGR and other iphanboi sites when the Note is finally recognized as a truly trendsetting device in about a year.
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this is exactly like the evo was a few years back. everyone thought it was massive. now its the standard
techntrek said:
Is this the same review we discussed here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1495972
Edit: I see it has today's date. Guess he decided trashing it twice was better than once.
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Exactly! I thought that his first post about the Note was ridiculous! He must have baby hands! That site is an iMachine anyway!
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But he did say if you wanted a large phone that would attract attention or a small tab, then this was def the phone for you. So I'm not exactly how biased against the phone he's being like Geller or whatever his name is.
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He's still making fun of the phone/people that buy it with that statement. It's not even remotely a positive comment.
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He's still making fun of the phone/people that buy it with that statement. It's not even remotely a positive comment.
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Then I guess you missed his comments on how he got a fulls day use out of one battery charge and how gorgeous the screen was and how fast it was and how nice the hardware looked? He actually listed a lot of good things about the Note.
And I don't see where he actually made fun of a person using the phone. He said it would attract attention and that it was a phone made for a basketball player but he never insulted anyone that would buy the phone. I think he even said if you shrunk it down about 20%, so that would drop it back down to around the 4.3/4.5" mark. So he's not exactly against phones larger than the iPhone.
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Then I guess you missed his comments on how he got a fulls day use out of one battery charge and how gorgeous the screen was and how fast it was and how nice the hardware looked? He actually listed a lot of good things about the Note.
And I don't see where he actually made fun of a person using the phone. He said it would attract attention and that it was a phone made for a basketball player but he never insulted anyone that would buy the phone. I think he even said if you shrunk it down about 20%, so that would drop it back down to around the 4.3/4.5" mark. So he's not exactly against phones larger than the iPhone.
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From his original "review" and his dumb comments on his twitter account, I honestly think he just threw in a couple of positives after taking so much heat for his original assessment so that he could look less biased. Just my opinion/theory.
Well I was told to go elsewhere to complain about Asus and the problems I am having with the $680 64Gb prime I bought. So since Diamondback is getting tired of closing threads and deleting posts, I decided on starting a thread were people who need or want to vent can come and vent. And to be fair if you have good things to say about Asus or your Prime please share it here.
As I have tried to say before I like my Prime but am getting tired of the problems that have not been fixed or pop up after an update is released..
I think the gps dongle, while a nice gesture was a misstep for Asus. I would have just taken that on the chin. The hardware/software problems that have not been resolved are far worse. I don't give a s- about gps. Again, nice move on their part, but the dongle does me zero good if the damn thing crashes and freezes. I'll take the wifi issues, it's not that bad. Just give me a functional f'n unit that doesn't run slower than my ibm 286. \rant
There is a class action suit going on. I was actually contacted today by one of the lawyers doing it. You can email [email protected] and tell him you want to be apart of it.
I miss the complaint thread. At least there was the hope that Asus would actually read their own thread, which ended up not being the case.
Better hurry up, this one will probably closed to.
Bout to pack bags from XDA with all of this crap. Its a shame.
All were looking for is answers.
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There is a class action suit going on. I was actually contacted today by one of the lawyers doing it. You can email [email protected] and tell him you want to be apart of it.
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Another one? I thought that got killed
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Better hurry up, this one will probably closed to.
Bout to pack bags from XDA with all of this crap. Its a shame.
All were looking for is answers.
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Another one? I thought that got killed
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its the same lawsuit but its not going anywhere really. The case against Asus isnt strong. Its likely to get thrown out before it even really begins. Hence the reason no official filing has even been done yet. This is just something someone "Wants" to bring against asus. Nothing thats actually happening or going on yet.
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I think the gps dongle, while a nice gesture was a misstep for Asus. I would have just taken that on the chin. The hardware/software problems that have not been resolved are far worse. I don't give a s- about gps. Again, nice move on their part, but the dongle does me zero good if the damn thing crashes and freezes. I'll take the wifi issues, it's not that bad. Just give me a functional f'n unit that doesn't run slower than my ibm 286. \rant
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Absolutely true.
Asus took the easy way out by sending us a 4 dollar piece of plastic and wire, instead of working on the actual issues.
Since i see demandarin posting in this thread, so much for your update prediction. This is getting totally ridiculous. , and Asus seems fine with it.I have bought so much Asus stuff over the years, i will be rethinking that, after the prime fiasco,
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its the same lawsuit but its not going anywhere really. The case against Asus isnt strong. Its likely to get thrown out before it even really begins. Hence the reason no official filing has even been done yet. This is just something someone "Wants" to bring against asus. Nothing thats actually happening or going on yet.
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Class action suits are awesome for all lawyers involved and the original filer. No one added to the class gets anything useful.
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its the same lawsuit but its not going anywhere really. The case against Asus isnt strong. Its likely to get thrown out before it even really begins. Hence the reason no official filing has even been done yet. This is just something someone "Wants" to bring against asus. Nothing thats actually happening or going on yet.
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That's really your personal opinion on the matter. How it unfolds.. I guess we'll have to just wait and see (we won't find out until few yrs later anyways). Btw, what do you mean by no "official" filing?
http://www.courthousenews.com/2012/02/13/ColinvASUS.pdf
What else do you need?? What's more official?
You sir are mistaken.
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its the same lawsuit but its not going anywhere really. The case against Asus isnt strong. Its likely to get thrown out before it even really begins. Hence the reason no official filing has even been done yet. This is just something someone "Wants" to bring against asus. Nothing thats actually happening or going on yet.
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This is not correct, the papers were filed over two months ago, the case is strong and will move forward in good time. ASuS as already been to two informal hearing at the various law firms involved when they were in CA. And as stated in previous post, you can let the team know that you'd like to be a part if they need anymore actual users of this product to appear in court. I've been watching mr. demandarin for quite some time and I'm sorry to say, but I feel he is either privileged by ASUS or just a tireless fan boy. Nothing wrong with enjoying a product and company that as serviced you to your satisfaction, but most of us that have kept quite for some time have followed long and tedious arguments that involved this individual. I give credit where credit is due but do not idolize any company, person, device or anything else so I can be a little more unbiased when assessing a situation. If you are unhappy with a product, this is the place to seek help, and if you can get a actual rep to listen, good for you! If you can't, then it's time to take legal action and get louder so that others are protected from having the same treatment as you. So by all means, follow the previous posters advice, seek out legal action. It will be funny to see how many fans will have their hand's out for the settlement money when it is awarded. Mark my words.
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I am glad to see that this tread is getting used. I also want to thank all who posted here as I have learned more about what is going on and what people are looking for. I have learned that I am not the only one who wants a stable working Prime over a GPS dongle.
I also would like to know if anyone has tried to use a Huawei E369 Datacard with their Prime. I have read that the Huawei 17xx was working but would like to buy the newest one out that will work so it will last at least 5 years before it becomes outdated.
I've noticed as of late that asus has stfu about everything. I realize that Gary was sick, but "official posts" are becoming fewer and farther between. They are going into defense mode. They know they are sol to fix the issues without having to put out a full recall which is a huge embarrassment and going to cost them an arm and a leg, plus street cred. It's getting to end game folks. They better be brewing a software miracle, or an overall solution. I think a lawsuit has legs with the horrible performance, Dongle be damned.
I would think a class action lawsuit has a foothold. There is absolutely no way that Asus did not know about the wifi and GPS issues when they launched. They got caught up in the "iPad killer" hype and wanted to get them out by Christmas. The lack of advertising by Asus and the retail establishment is icing on the cake.
Funny thing is that I picked up a Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 for my birthday last week and it is snappier than my Prime (especially when browsing and installing from the Play store)
The lack of updates is disconcerting as well. Perhaps there are no further firmware/software fixes for this device.
It is simply a small blip on the Android Tablet radar that will go down in history as a complete and utter failure.
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I am glad to see that this tread is getting used. I also want to thank all who posted here as I have learned more about what is going on and what people are looking for. I have learned that I am not the only one who wants a stable working Prime over a GPS dongle.
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There has been a ton of discussion about this just today, problem is it keeps getting shut down, either by reported posts, or, over zealous mods, either way, the ends the same
The mysterious , unreleased firmware should be telling everybody something, the og transformer has had the update to .24 for quite sometime, the prime testers have had it for at least 2 weeks or more, one in particular gave today as a release date, even though some of those testers are reporting good results, I'm not buying it. If it was ready for prime time it would have dropped.It seems like I have new issues pop up every day, or the same issues manifesting in different ways
I have multiple issues with prime, i am going to ask Asus for a refund, probably more than ask, and go with something else, other tegra 3 tablets available, and the A700 and thrive are getting rave reviews, They certainly can't be worse than the Prime, and i doubt they will go backwards with no explanation like the prime.Asus is going to lose my business for sure
I have 2 different PM's to both Asus_usa and Gary key, for 2 and a half days now, so far no response yet, for dedicated forum support, thats unacceptable.
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demandarin said:
its the same lawsuit but its not going anywhere really. The case against Asus isnt strong. Its likely to get thrown out before it even really begins. Hence the reason no official filing has even been done yet. This is just something someone "Wants" to bring against asus. Nothing thats actually happening or going on yet.
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opps... didnt see someone posted the link to the filing. lol But If anything comes from it remains to be seen..
All I want is the browser sped up and I would be perfectly happy. Gary mentioned that there would be an upgrade to browsing in the new firmware but after this much time it leads you to think that it must be a hardware issue. Although Asus has always been outed by other sources before they give out any real information.
I bought a top of the line Android Tablet and I swear my girlfriends Kindle browses the internet faster.
It is also odd to see that new post the other day about the Asus Nexus Tablet. It is hard to believe that they would be able to meet Demand or Expectations after all of the Prime problems.
Yea I am getting tired closing all your threads....
What's so hard about posting in existing threads?
I understand that you want answers, I want them too, but making new threads each day complaning about the issues won't get you any answers...
Gary doesn't answer in threads, so maybe the situation will change with the new guy - Asus_USA - but until then please use the existing threads.