Just noticed when in CDMA mode only, I can be on phone and browse the web.
My previous phones could not do that.
Any one else?
Sent from my ADR6425LVW using xda premium
I read that this phone is supposed to do that. Another one had that capability too, I think the bolt.
I haven't tried it yet. I'm still learning how to make and receive calls as evidenced by this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1370123
ROFLMAO! Sometimes I just crack myself up!
I actually just posted about this on another board. I couldn't believe it either.
This phone has what is called SVDO capability. It can browse the web and talk on the phone on both 3G and 4G.
Check out this in the Anandtech review of the Tbolt. It should help it make more sense.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4240/htc-thunderbolt-review-first-verizon-4g-lte-smartphone/3
Related
So I just got a call from sprint saying I've been roaming too much (because I don't have services where I live) but they said they have to follow the rules and then she said they'll let me out of my 2 years for free but the thing to if I flash my phone to cricket can I still use the roms or will have I have to change something in them?
Sent from my PG86100 using xda premium
snowboardkid503 said:
So I just got a call from sprint saying I've been roaming too much (because I don't have services where I live) but they said they have to follow the rules and then she said they'll let me out of my 2 years for free but the thing to if I flash my phone to cricket can I still use the roms or will have I have to change something in them?
Sent from my PG86100 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I know there are threads around this forum regarding how to flash to other carriers. Perhaps it would be worth your time to read through those.
I know from what I've seen, some settings need to be tweaked in the ROMs.
Definitely for MMS and sometimes for internet data (proxy settings). Perhaps also for voice mail, especially if there is a visual voicemail service. Also, sometimes other carriers have special software for their Android devices they might be able to provide you.
As a slight side note, I have noticed the EVO 3D roams quite a bit more than any of my previous Sprint Android devices (Moment, EVO, and NS4G). Even with an Airave, my EVO 3D will sometimes prefer to roam .. kind of odd.
Good luck!
To any Amaze users; Are you able to to use the wifi hotspot without the $15/mo fee? The Sensation has it, and I can use it freely, but it is being exchanged for an Amaze due to dust accumulating under the screen.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using xda premium
Yes
Sent from my HTC Amaze 4G using XDA App
hurrpancakes said:
To any Amaze users; Are you able to to use the wifi hotspot without the $15/mo fee? The Sensation has it, and I can use it freely, but it is being exchanged for an Amaze due to dust accumulating under the screen.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just like Teo said, yes you can.
Just a matter of changing the APN and deleting another one.
Let me find the thread on that for you.
*Here it is and I believe page 4 has the instructions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1301104&highlight=wifi+hotspot
Only for a short time it doesn't look for the apn, T-Mobile knows your using the hot spot and there is an amount that it lets you use before forcing the feature on you, although I've never found how much it is that it lets you use but I can tell you it indicates to us what percentage you have used of what it allows you to. Changing apns might work but only until they decomission some of the older apns and it doesn't work for everybody I seen people get mad because they can't access web because they are using an old apn or because they can't use hot spot for free anymore lol
Sent from my HTC_Amaze_4G using XDA App
Just use a third party app if you get blocked like wireless tether same thing anyways
Sent from my HTC_Amaze_4G using XDA App
when i purchased my amaze the sales lady told me that tmobile will only charge you if they catch you.. then she whispered to me "ive been using it for a long time now and they havnt caught me yet"..
Sent from my HTC_Amaze_4G using XDA App
Lol employees get it free, no they are aware I see it on accounts all day but just use it while you can, they will crack down on it harder soon i assume but u always got third party options anyway
Sent from my HTC_Amaze_4G using XDA App
ill say this man, store reps for the most part aren't very knowledgeable they are trained to sell to average joe, they know nothing about how it works on the back end. Most of them would try to sell you the galaxy S 2 and tell you its totally superior to the amaze. On the back end when you use hot spot it notes your account in 25% increments that you have used a certain allotment of tethering why T-Mobile allows free use of it who knows but its great for customers I just tell people it lets you try it pretty well but will eventually tell you that you have to pay to continue using it we never been told why it lets people use it free for a bit and I've tried looking into it. If at&t ever takes over it will probably change seeing how they are pretty strict about tethering for now enjoy
Sent from my HTC_Amaze_4G using XDA App
ebatr8 said:
Only for a short time it doesn't look for the apn, T-Mobile knows your using the hot spot and there is an amount that it lets you use before forcing the feature on you, although I've never found how much it is that it lets you use but I can tell you it indicates to us what percentage you have used of what it allows you to. Changing apns might work but only until they decomission some of the older apns and it doesn't work for everybody I seen people get mad because they can't access web because they are using an old apn or because they can't use hot spot for free anymore lol
Sent from my HTC_Amaze_4G using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think you've mistaken, we don't use a different apn, we just add a new apn with the same apn... the epc one.
we delete the two original apns so it doesn't switch back. There's something extra in the stock APNs that causes the tethering block (someone mentioned it somewhere but i find it easier to just delete and add a new one)
so unless they block the epc one, which is their main one at the moment, then we're free to use it. besides xboarder already has a workaround for it too.
But if you're not rooted and you're on a fresh factory restore, the adding apn method works. ONLY on fresh factory resets though, before you try toggling the wifi tether. this is what a few others and i discovered roughly a month ago
Epc is the current one that we use at T-Mobile so that would be wrong, they can track which ever one they like point being that it doesn't matter what you do anyone gets free use whether you change it or not, either way being rooted lets you use wireless tether so it doesn't matter. But I've personally seen people get blocked on different apns, I even went as far as having it researched for someone who claimed to not be using what they came back with was interesting.
Sent from my HTC_Amaze_4G using XDA App
good thing i still have my rooted nexus one.. probably use that for hotspot? just gonna share something.. when we moved to our new house i lost my internet.. connected my ps3 to my nexus via hotspot and played call of duty mw2, played it for a couple of hours then tmobile dropped me down to 2G.. talk about large mount of data.. hehe..
Sent from my HTC_Amaze_4G using XDA App
ebatr8 said:
Epc is the current one that we use at T-Mobile so that would be wrong, they can track which ever one they like point being that it doesn't matter what you do anyone gets free use whether you change it or not, either way being rooted lets you use wireless tether so it doesn't matter. But I've personally seen people get blocked on different apns, I even went as far as having it researched for someone who claimed to not be using what they came back with was interesting.
Sent from my HTC_Amaze_4G using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
not exactly sure what you're pointing out is wrong. I'm actually confused about the whole run on sentence lol. Not sure if you realize that they originally block it straight out of the box. You can't use it at all. So no, it isn't free use whether you change it or not for the Amaze. You HAVE to add a new apn if you want to use it on stock.
we've been discussing for a while now so i don't know if you even tried using your wifi hotspot yet for your amaze because this device is not like other devices where you can use it straight out of the box. and yes if you don't add the new apn, it gets blocked after it reaches a certain point.
I understand what you're saying about ppl using all the other available tmobile apns, but we don't need to do that for the amaze. What you're saying relates to ALL devices, so you're making ppl skeptical about wifi hotspot on the amaze. Like the guy before me saying to use his nexus, it would relate to his nexus too.
ebatr8 said:
Epc is the current one that we use at T-Mobile so that would be wrong, they can track which ever one they like point being that it doesn't matter what you do anyone gets free use whether you change it or not, either way being rooted lets you use wireless tether so it doesn't matter. But I've personally seen people get blocked on different apns, I even went as far as having it researched for someone who claimed to not be using what they came back with was interesting.
Sent from my HTC_Amaze_4G using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Let's clarify this.
With the release of the Amaze and GS2 they have changed the way tethering is recognized. On previous phones it SHOULD catch you at 200mb (think of it like a preview) and then throw an upsell message. Yes, employees were not caught as they have different permissions but they were supposed to get the upsell as well. With the new phones they WILL get the upsell (trust me, I talk to upset employees every week that got one of the above mentioned phones and now have to pay). Employees do NOT get to tether for free, we are supposed to pay for the $14.99 tether feature like everyone else. If you have an amaze that is not rooted and has not had the apns changed and you can tether, then it is a fluke.
The amaze seems to block this through the apn settings. NOT the apn itself. The original work around was to just delete the apn type field and it would work. Seems to work better if you create a new apn with JUST epc.tmobile.com and delete the old ones. Of course, if you're rooted, most roms have fixes implemented so you don't have to do anything.
With both devices, if left completely alone and without the tether feature, you will get the upsell message immediately. No 200mb "buffer."
^^ yes finally a support, end thread.
I do not have any program or app so I can use wifi or internet calling so this is not an internet phone call. It regular Sprint phone call. I do not know how this is working. So I really cannot answer your questions on how to make this work.
Can we figure out how to get this running on every Sprint smartphone or every Evo 4G LTE.
Look at the video I posted on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lyMcxJ2q6Q
nise_07 said:
I do not have any program or app so I can use wifi or internet calling so this is not an internet phone call. It regular Sprint phone call. I do not know how this is working. So I really cannot answer your questions on how to make this work.
Can we figure out how to get this running on every Sprint smartphone or every Evo 4G LTE.
Look at the video I posted on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lyMcxJ2q6Q
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1653145&highlight=svdo
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1673981&highlight=svdo
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671986&highlight=svdo
Might want to search next time.
SVDO - simultaneous voice and data. Feature of this phones radio.
Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk 2
njfoses said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1653145&highlight=svdo
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1673981&highlight=svdo
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671986&highlight=svdo
Might want to search next time.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hey thanks! It makes sense now.
I just never heard of this before
Hello, Thought I would post this to see if any one else out there is having the same issues I am having. I have 1.22.351.3 update, I am stock, not rooted (yet, waiting on S-Off with new firmware) I am on 3G only, no LTE, I have 3-4 bars service on my phone, but on 35% of my calls (outgoing or incoming) when I pick up the call or place one, the phone says it is connected but all i hear is silence. I can hang up and call back immediately and the phone works fine. This happens 4-8x per day. My wife has older Optimus phone and does not have this problem. Has anyone else experienced this? It makes me wanna throw my phone through a window.
Chewboxa.
I haven't experienced that. If I were you I would take it in to get looked at or at least try a factory reset.
"We're coming from a pure power source"
My EVO does this same thing. I figured it was just Sprint's service. It is very frustrating. My phone is HTCDev unlocked and rooted. It did that on 1.13 and on 1.22. Same issue with different radios and roms.
Sent from my EVO using xda app-developers app
Similar issue I just posted in a separate thread. Calls never come through or the connection is so bad I can't have the conversation. I was rooted then took the OTA. Started having issues after that.
There's a lot of widespread tower issues so it seems, in Arizona at least.
Sent from my EVO using xda app-developers app
You can try the tips and tricks on this thread. Didn't work for me but it worked for others
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1684282
I'm stunned at the constant complaints... I believe half of.. everyones issues are due to screwin around and f"n up their phones ,not reading stickies ,,rules , not.knowing...compatibility
The other half is probably defective devices NOT all of us have issues I've had none
The 122.651.3 has bettered the performance no WiFi 3g drop
Great battery from day 1 anyways !!
Root went well on this update providing you follow closely to the procedure.
This device is top notch
Has the s3 spanked
Sent from my EVO using xda app-developers app
My text messages aren't going through and I keep getting an error. I sure hope I am doing something wrong in sending text messages to anyone and everyone on my list.
Network issues.
Welcome to Sprint
I really haven't tinkered with much of anything on my phone and I find the most recent OTA to be MUCH MUCH buggier than the previous version. Before the update I never had Sense crash or any other programs crash. Now they happen once or twice a week (sometimes several in a day). Add that to the fact that I am not S-OFF and I have a loathing hatred for this most recent update.
Rxpert said:
Network issues.
Welcome to Sprint
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've been with sprint for as long as I can remember and this is the first instance where my text messages have stopped working for more than a few hours. It's the second day and I'll probably go to the sprint store and see what they say about it. It could be my phone. We'll see
JManekia said:
I've been with sprint for as long as I can remember and this is the first instance where my text messages have stopped working for more than a few hours. It's the second day and I'll probably go to the sprint store and see what they say about it. It could be my phone. We'll see
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sprint is in the middle of a huge overhaul and theres a LOT of strain on it right now
If updating prl/profile doesnt work get your radio checked. If the radio is fine its sprints network
Rxpert said:
Sprint is in the middle of a huge overhaul and theres a LOT of strain on it right now
If updating prl/profile doesnt work get your radio checked. If the radio is fine its sprints network
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the tips. Is there any way I can check the radio myself with some sort of an app or should I just take it to sprint store?
Rxpert said:
Network issues.
Welcome to Sprint
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sorry, but I'm not convinced that my text, roaming and dropped call issues are solely due to the upgrade. You guys can keep screaming that all you want. And I'm not saying that there aren't instances where that's the case. My wife has a shift and isn't experiencing these issues. I've also read about other evo owners with two phones or other sprint phones in their household -- none of which are displaying the same problems.
Again, I'm not saying the network upgrade isn't causing any issues, but it's a bit aggravating to see people post that in every thread containing an issue that can even remotely be attributed to the upgrade like it's gospel.
Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk 2
If you're complaining about SMS issues, missed calls, dropped calls, ect...
Go get your radio tested. It takes 30 minutes at a sprint store. You don't even have to unroot it. Hell, tell them its rooted so they don't mess with the software.
I may try bringing it in tomorrow.
Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk 2
I called up sprint customer service and they were able to refresh it and after rebooting, my phone is able to send and receive text. Can't say it was the phone's fault, so so far this phone has served me well:fingers-crossed:
Yep, pretty odd that my network problems started the same day I bought this phone. Op, Your is working great. Good for you but please don't treat the rest of us as retards. This is my 6th android device. Only one of them wasn't on sprint network. That's only phones I didn't include tablets laying around the house. Nook colors and kfs for the kids and wife.
Sent from my EVO using xda premium
For those not aware...the EVO LTe is set up out of the box to work on LTE and Enhanced CDMA (for lack of better term/knowledge) Also know as Network Vision, or the upgrades.
In cases where an older phone connects and the EVO LTE does, I have confirmed the EVO LTE is connecting to a network type called ehrpd. This network is not yet active in most cities. The older device confirmed to be connected to CDMA and receiving normal 3g.
This is the reasoning behind changing the network mode to cdma only, as many of us have seen that it forces the phone on to CDMA and not ehrpd.
I hhonestly have no idea what I am doing, but this is what I have found in my hours of testing side by side with older devices. From what I can tell every LTE device Sprint carries has this issue, but the other devices appear to lack the ability to switch.
There are also other issues that can contribute to texts and data.
This theory also works in reverse. If I am in an LTE area and on cdma only data and texts are wonky and I have to switch back.
Moral of the story...handoff could be seriously jacked up. I remember Verizon and ATT having similar issues during buildout. You would think someone had figured it out by now.
Sent from my EVO using xda app-developers app
Dudes Sprint is upgrading 38000 towers its common sense that your going to have some connection issues and aside from that people living in high populated areas if one of the towers goes down for the upgrade the other ones are going to have way more traffic hence your problems......... I'm pretty sure that's right? And also if you if you can make calls and not receive calls or text but still have data your on data only o. O
Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk 2
chriswbush said:
Dudes Sprint is upgrading 38000 towers its common sense that your going to have some connection issues and aside from that people living in high populated areas if one of the towers goes down for the upgrade the other ones are going to have way more traffic hence your problems
Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This
Yawn.
Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk 2
A lot of the data/sms/call signal issues can be attributed to the current state of network upgrades, though it's obviously impossible to say 100%. In my experience, the network-related things have worked fine from day 1 (July 19th). That said, I have noticed actual system bugs. For example there was a time when I was using Talk (I hardly ever SMS anymore, Talk is way better IMO) and the text in the app became just a jumbled mess of pixels. Took a reboot to fix but it was still weird. And a friend of mine who got his Evo LTE a couple of weeks before me, his phone just started spontaneously overheating all of a sudden yesterday. We suspect a rogue app getting stuck in a loop, but still that's not a good sign; it should have been caught by the OS and at least thrown up a message to kill the offending application. Again, a reboot fixed it but I'm not really keen on that being an actual solution as opposed to a temporary workaround.
00mred00 said:
For those not aware...the EVO LTe is set up out of the box to work on LTE and Enhanced CDMA (for lack of better term/knowledge) Also know as Network Vision, or the upgrades.
In cases where an older phone connects and the EVO LTE does, I have confirmed the EVO LTE is connecting to a network type called ehrpd. This network is not yet active in most cities. The older device confirmed to be connected to CDMA and receiving normal 3g.
This is the reasoning behind changing the network mode to cdma only, as many of us have seen that it forces the phone on to CDMA and not ehrpd.
I hhonestly have no idea what I am doing, but this is what I have found in my hours of testing side by side with older devices. From what I can tell every LTE device Sprint carries has this issue, but the other devices appear to lack the ability to switch.
There are also other issues that can contribute to texts and data.
This theory also works in reverse. If I am in an LTE area and on cdma only data and texts are wonky and I have to switch back.
Moral of the story...handoff could be seriously jacked up. I remember Verizon and ATT having similar issues during buildout. You would think someone had figured it out by now.
Sent from my EVO using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This makes the most sense of anything I've ever heard. If sprint would have said cdma2 or something, I wouldn't have had the opinion I did in yesterday's post.
Thanks
Sent from my EVO using xda premium
yamaford said:
This makes the most sense of anything I've ever heard. If sprint would have said cdma2 or something, I wouldn't have had the opinion I did in yesterday's post.
Thanks
Sent from my EVO using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you want to run your own tests, I use network signal info, open signal maps and an app called "network" to find all of this.
I forward everything I find up the chain of command at Sprint but not sure where it goes or what comes out of it
Sent from my EVO using xda app-developers app