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http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_mobile_uffda&num=1
Now I know you're going to call me paranoid....but I have been seeing a progressive shortening of battery life on my device as we progressively move into more advanced custom kernels created by our lovely devs
Anyone care to discuss?
** it has been pointed out to me we are still not this far along in kernels...still an interesting read
Should be in general not development
i only put it here because in "general" this would more directly impact "development", target audience and all.....i suppose they can move if they like, but just so you know, i did ponder that for a minute..
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i only put it here because in "general" this would more directly impact "development", target audience and all.....i suppose they can move if they like, but just so you know, i did ponder that for a minute..
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You know there's no "they". Only mod can move it.
You've just been Fascinated
they refers to the collective known as "the mods"
what the hell is going on around here anyways with the obsession with "posts being in the wrong place"....and by that i dont mean any disrespect, but thats why you have mods, to move to errant thread or two, why is it lately the only thing people want to respond with is, "you should have posted this in ______ section" instead of actually responding to the thread topic....????
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they refers to the collective known as "the mods"
what the hell is going on around here anyways with the obsession with "posts being in the wrong place"....and by that i dont mean any disrespect, but thats why you have mods, to move to errant thread or two, why is it lately the only thing people want to respond with is, "you should have posted this in ______ section" instead of actually responding to the thread topic....????
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honestly if its not a rom/mod release or a legitimate development discussion like "how to build kernels or roms" or something it doesnt belong here..that is all
this isnt to flame at all...and our mod said only the first person to post should say "wrong section" if someone had posted before me i wouldnt have posted it
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honestly if its not a rom/mod release or a legitimate development discussion like "how to build kernels or roms" or something it doesnt belong here..that is all
this isnt to flame at all...and our mod said only the first person to post should say "wrong section" if someone had posted before me i wouldnt have posted it
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I personally think if its a development related discussion it belongs here. Not to say this post has any direct relation to "current development" There doesn't have to be a zip or a side load or a script to be a development related post.
Maybe our development sections (for all devices) should have restricted access to post unless the mods deem the memeber a developer. Read/write and read only type scenario. :-/
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A lot of people seem to care because as we mostly come to this forum to check the latest in rom and kernel development. With so much happening right now with updates coming here is like reading the news headlines. This post where it is, is well more like spam. Also because the battery life issue has been discussed many many times across the board and solutions given have worked for most. also need [] containing the tag of the thread.
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I personally think if its a development related discussion it belongs here. Not to say this post has any direct relation to "current development" There doesn't have to be a zip or a side load or a script to be a development related post.
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fair enough...threads like this without specific aims toward developing/improving our phone just clutter this subforum that frankly the vast majority of poeple come to for roms/kernels/mods..
if this is a linux/android specific discussion then the general android development forum or something...because i dont think this relates to anything that will specifically do anything for our phones
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fair enough...threads like this without specific aims toward developing/improving our phone just clutter this subforum that frankly the vast majority of poeple come to for roms/kernels/mods..
if this is a linux/android specific discussion then the general android development forum or something...because i dont think this relates to anything that will specifically do anything for our phones
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True android general development would probably be more suited... but it is an interesting article and lends some evidence toward my 5 hour tbolt life lol.
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sunder74 said:
True android general development would probably be more suited... but it is an interesting article and lends some evidence toward my 5 hour tbolt life lol.
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I don't own a tbolt but seems to be a lot of talk on the 4g not playing to nice. Think it was acting like wifi when it couldn't get a good 4g connection, trying, failing, reverting to 3g, then repeating. Again don't have one so just repeating what others have said, i'm sure theres lots on the sit in the tbolt forum. Whatever the exact issue is, its most likely centered on the lte radio.
Nice article. Relates directly to the biggest issue of all android devices. Good performance = bad battery. This helps clarify that. KEEP IN ANDROID [email protected]!
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A lot of people seem to care because as we mostly come to this forum to check the latest in rom and kernel development. With so much happening right now with updates coming here is like reading the news headlines. This post where it is, is well more like spam. Also because the battery life issue has been discussed many many times across the board and solutions given have worked for most. also need [] containing the tag of the thread.
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Maybe there needs to be a separate section for "Releases" then if this article honestly really ruined you visit like Spam. Where do people discuss development issues if not in the development section? This section like you pointed out is where everyone comes to get the latest rom or kernel. Seems to me that warrants its own Release section.....oh wait....that's why the mods asked those types of threads to be titled specifically in a format that makes that obvious. Then the discussion threads could co-exist in the same section without being considered "Spam"
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Another good thread ruined by backseat moderators.
Good article.
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Nice article. Relates directly to the biggest issue of all android devices. Good performance = bad battery. This helps clarify that. KEEP IN ANDROID [email protected]!
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I still fail to see where *anything* is being developed :/
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Another good thread ruined by backseat moderators.
Good article.
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Lol. I was just reading all the responses and thought...wow, they're really talking about the thread being moved for this long.
i dont need a signature
It is a good article and it is development related. Just because its not a rom, kernel zip, script, apk or system dump doesn't disqualify it from the development forum.
(Though android general may have been a better option as stated previously.)
Spend as much time policing your own actions as you do trolling threads like a lynch mob and maybe things will get to the way they used to be on this site.
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Maybe there needs to be a separate section for "Releases" then if this article honestly really ruined you visit like Spam. Where do people discuss development issues if not in the development section? This section like you pointed out is where everyone comes to get the latest rom or kernel. Seems to me that warrants its own Release section.....oh wait....that's why the mods asked those types of threads to be titled specifically in a format that makes that obvious. Then the discussion threads could co-exist in the same section without being considered "Spam"
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Lol I actually like the thought of kernels, roms, mods, odins, radios, and such having there own place. Like keeping up with the latest works here, for other news clips and links I look elsewhere.
Oh, I'm sorry if you think I implied this ruined the forum. Just felt it detracted from it
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It is a good article and it is development related. Just because its not a rom, kernel zip, script, apk or system dump doesn't disqualify it from the development forum.
(Though android general may have been a better option as stated previously.)
Spend as much time policing your own actions as you do trolling threads like a lynch mob and maybe things will get to the way they used to be on this site.
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yeah if there was a "development discussion" section that would be best....as if all the articles available out that could be posted like this to foster discussion ended up in here.......well it would really clutter stuff up
my own personal opinion (and its not worth anything) is that the development section is best served as a release...and discussion of said release...section...i mean thats what 95% of us treat it as...and have been accustomed to having it as such
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dmireles03 said:
What happen to those guys? They saved my life about a year ago. They have to have something up there sleeve for this one. It only took me a few minutes to get fully rooted and have clockwork mod recovery. Good things come to those who wait? I'm tired of waiting. So what do I do? Keep waiting until one of you genius devs to figure it out.
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JFYI this is the dev section, this post belongs in QA or General. Keep in mind for the future because people will give you hell about it.
Why would you create a new thread in the DEVELOPMENT section? Mods please move to GENERAL or delete all together.
FYI OP: There are different sections for a reason.
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Why would you create a new thread in the DEVELOPMENT section? Mods please move to GENERAL or delete all together.
FYI OP: There are different sections for a reason.
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I vote delete. The OP is clearly trolling.
any thread title with 5 question marks should be instantly deleted and op banned
OP obviously isn't in the loop.
AHHHH!!! Unrevoked? Really? You create a thread in the dev section to ask a question and if that wasn't bad enough you ask about Unrevoked! Get outta here with that sh*t...its gonna be a good long while before you get your phone rooted! lmao
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For all we know they may be working on a root method but with the lack of success of Gingerbreak and other one-click root methods I would guess that they, like many others, are having a hard time finding a useable exploit...
We are certainly working on something and will post if and when it's ready.
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We are certainly working on something and will post if and when it's ready.
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Team Unrevoked,
you intrigue me.
-No1ustad.
Why can't you just respectfully answer the damn question and then proceed to having it transferred to the QA section.
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Why can't you just respectfully answer the damn question and then proceed to having it transferred to the QA section.
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Its more fun to pick on people, especially newcomers than to actually help them, or at least it seems that way.
Submitting items in appropriate sections are a damned good thing.....but do people actually give a ratsass about catching "hell" or a threat of getting "flamed" on a freakin' forum?!
drbadass said:
JFYI this is the dev section, this post belongs in QA or General. Keep in mind for the future because people will give you hell about it.
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Amen... lotta forum Jerry Springer types!
sleepy8594 said:
Why can't you just respectfully answer the damn question and then proceed to having it transferred to the QA section.
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I vote delete. The OP is clearly trolling.
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Agreed, takes 10 posts to post in dev section. His 11th post is this crap!
I've been a member here for a long time, but do not speak much as most questions I would have about any of my devices have clearly been discussed.
I also understand where new members would not know much about whats going on at times, but its nothing more than a simple search. I (and all other members new/old) have to search like everyone else. Its really not hard.
Its also believed with the great devs that are doing what they can (and I THANK YOU for that) to get root available for our device. I'm SURE they will have something up (as in a new thread) that they have achieved what we have been waiting for. Its going to happen. Be appreciative that we even have devs that are making the time to find out all that they can. Without them, we'd be in a world of hurt.
Just my .18 cents.
You 'section police' people are fkn pathetic.
Seriously hate coming to this forum now.
"I also understand where new members would not know much about whats going on at times, but its nothing more than a simple search. I (and all other members new/old) have to search like everyone else. Its really not hard."
Of course. No one argues with that.
Its how they're told that.
Members with 5000 posts don't have liscence to be a**holes. They're no more 'valuable' than someone with 1 in terms of basic civility.
And after 1301 posts...this is your offering?! Lol?
I'll take his 11th!
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Agreed, takes 10 posts to post in dev section. His 11th post is this crap!
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You 'section police' people are fkn pathetic.
Seriously hate coming to this forum now.
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Think of "development" like a business...professionalism is important in business, no? There is a job that is being done here.
If you are looking for the tavern take it to General, if you are looking for the visitors assistance center take it to Q&A. This is all spelled out in the rules. If you have no "developing" to contribute to the "development" please take it elsewhere.
Posting non-development related posts is like showing up drunk to work, and your post is like an even drunker guy proclaiming how BS the professionalism is at said business.
I'll shut up now, as this is unrelated to development.
It appears the Fr3v0 rooting party has been moved to the Sensation Forums
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It appears the Fr3v0 rooting party has been moved to the Sensation Forums
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Cool story bro, this is not the place to post such as senseless comment.
Yourin the wrong place
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old news, i read about this in the GENERAL section...
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It appears the Fr3v0 rooting party has been moved to the Sensation Forums
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we're all aware of this.....but yeah make sure u post something like this in general....cause this is gonna be closed before u know it
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It appears the Fr3v0 rooting party has been moved to the Sensation Forums
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+1 for mods. less traffic on this forum means less to moderate, means less work for mods.
here comes the ban..
Blame your moderator for thinking he is the xda president
phonegod said:
Blame your moderator for thinking he is the xda president
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yep yep, the douche is why teamwin released their exploit on the other site instead of here. maybe he will eat a slice of humble pie and settle the **** down.
So you when you come into this subforum trying to find news about the quest for 3D root, you don't mind reading through a ton of responses that have nothing really to do with helping gain root? I've been following that thread for days, waiting for some positive news so I could pull the trigger on a 3D, and not only was it annoying sifting through a bunch of non-responses, there were tons of warnings to stay on-topic. Yeah, the mod reaction was heavy-handed, but also blame the dumdums who continued polluting the thread with nonsense.
I know this response doesn't fall in line with people thinking message boards should be pure anarchy, but I come here, the development forum specifically, looking for information.
censorship isnt the way
most of the dumb questions are from people who don't know any better.
all the people who feel they can berate these members and fill up the threads with constant *****ing DO know better and should be held accountable.
mods should quietly delete useless posts, move and combine threads without being hostile towards members. blatant or continual violations should result in a temp ban but not as a public warning to others.
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most of the dumb questions are from people who don't know any better.
all the people who feel they can berate these members and fill up the threads with constant *****ing DO know better and should be held accountable.
mods should quietly delete useless posts, move and combine threads without being hostile towards members. blatant or continual violations should result in a temp ban but not as a public warning to others.
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I agree no reason to be disrespectful, he was enjoying the power not just exercising.
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The people asking dumb questions were warned, over and over and over. It doesn't take much brains to know if your question has anything to do with helping gain root. That thread was about one thing -- gaining root. Now if root had been achieved, and people had questions on how to do it themselves, then let the dumb questions begin, everyone is here to help. But that thread was trying to get to root in the first place, and not the place for questions, only suggestions.
I think the bans were over-the-top, but I don't think closing the thread was.
pointless thread moved to general and closed. @op don't do this or we will consider this spamming our boards. (You will get a vacation for this.)
I hqave the 3500mah battery, and no super battery charger kernel.
Can someone make a kernel?
Or upload the script?
A member since 2008 and still doesn't know what goes in what forum Sad.
And don't say "I wanted more devs to see it", that's not an excuse.
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A member since 2008 and still doesn't know what goes in what forum Sad.
And don't say "I wanted more devs to see it", that's not an excuse.
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So if your so bent about this, then move the thread....
O wait you're not a mod. FTL
kthejoker20 said:
So if your so bent about this, then move the thread....
O wait you're not a mod. FTL
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If you were smart enough to know where it was in the first place, you'd be just fine.
Oh wait, you're not. Go on, whine some more and tell me why I'm in the wrong when you're the guy who posted in the wrong place
Wall charger = problem solved
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If you were smart enough to know where it was in the first place, you'd be just fine.
Oh wait, you're not. Go on, whine some more and tell me why I'm in the wrong when you're the guy who posted in the wrong place
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You're a very angry person.
Go smoke some cigarettes and go to bed.
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You're a very angry person.
Go smoke some cigarettes and go to bed.
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"blah blah blah i posted in the wrong place but i'm going to try and be a smartass about it".
Did I miss anything? Whatever. Not going to bump this thread again.
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"blah blah blah i posted in the wrong place but i'm going to try and be a smartass about it".
Did I miss anything? Whatever. Not going to bump this thread again.
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You obviously feel the need for the last word.
So I will play, I got nothing better to do at this time.
xHausx said:
Wall charger = problem solved
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I have a 4000 and my charger works perfect also
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Basically what they are trying to tell you is to post in the correct place (General Discussion). This is the development section. To be honest, it took a mighty long time to get back to normal due to the fact that noobs and cry babies were *****ing about s-off which had everything out of whack. Now that XDA is coming back to life, I'm pretty sure members who have been around for a while would like to see it remain that way. Just be patient grasshopper. We just got root the other day. Let the developers bring you a stable kernel first then we will see SBC soon after.
My ''xDU4L C0R3 SH00T3Rx'' shot you down in 3D!
Great kernel. Thanks for making such a stable, fast and battery efficient kernel. Your the best kernel dev evarrrrr! I have a request and you better hurry. Implement a script or give me one that will make the wings on my phone pop out on their own and then I can use my wii mote to fly it. Hurry though. I want it naow!!!!!!!
This is the LuLz.
eh, i'v seen better trolls
I don't blame him, he was requesting development so he posted here, not to much kernel writing going on in the general section so why not go where the developers are. He also flagged the thread correctly as a [req] to get attention.
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I don't blame him, he was requesting development so he posted here, not to much kernel writing going on in the general section so why not go where the developers are. He also flagged the thread correctly as a [req] to get attention.
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The problem is simply this. Development section is for developing. Its that simple. If you are not developing something, it does not go here.
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The problem is simply this. Development section is for developing. Its that simple. If you are not developing something, it does not go here.
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I know his post isn't development but that is what he is requesting. All these stupid guides that keep on popping up in the development section aren't development either and belong in the general section also. I don't see you jumping on any of those posts and giving them a hard time.
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I know his post isn't development but that is what he is requesting. All these stupid guides that keep on popping up in the development section aren't development either and belong in the general section also. I don't see you jumping on any of those posts and giving them a hard time.
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Actually i report them all too...even the ones that get stickies Don't assume.
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Actually i report them all too...even the ones that get stickies Don't assume.
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Then here is a thanks for being such a good hall monitor and policing the forums for the betterment of others.
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I don't blame him, he was requesting development so he posted here, not to much kernel writing going on in the general section so why not go where the developers are. He also flagged the thread correctly as a [req] to get attention...I know his post isn't development but that is what he is requesting. All these stupid guides that keep on popping up in the development section aren't development either and belong in the general section also. I don't see you jumping on any of those posts and giving them a hard time.
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Agreed. The OP was unarguably development-related, and this was the correct place to post it.
Those whiners who incessantly demand that such posts be removed from the dev section have grown blind to the mission of xda, and would become dangerous and tyrannical power freaks if ever given mod status, and would quickly destroy the dev forum just as thoroughly as what almost happened a few weeks ago in this very forum. Xda exists to further development of the operating systems on our devices. The OP wants devs to see his request, and that's a legitimate expectation, so I can't fault him for posting it here. How many devs ever even visit the General Discussion forum?
Rant over.
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Actually i report them all too...even the ones that get stickies Don't assume.
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What is the point of reporting threads that have been stickied? Obviously a mod stickied the thread so why bother?
This is posted in the wrong section but people don't need to be assholes about pointing it out. Is life so miserable that people must find satisfaction by being a **** to others on the internet? Ya'll need to find something else to do to feel better about yourselves.
tapa tapa tapa
I quote from fan page Samsung Mobile
"Samsung offers Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich upgrade for GALAXY S II
We're thrilled to announce that Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich will be served to GALAXY S II users in the European countries including Poland, Hungary and Sweden, as well as Korea TODAY, and gradually roll out to other markets.
ICS for GALAXY Note, GALAXY S II LTE, GALAXY Tab 8.9 and 10.1 will follow soon." With this release, will the developers be able to extract the kernel source and port it to the 777?
go to General forum, "Are we getting ICS" - read and search first, always.
And no.
Thread closed in 3, 2, 1....
EDIT- Not worth the grief... I have work to do.
paleman27 said:
The news officially (not like thousands of rumors and speculations I've seen in this forum) came out last night @ 9 pm EDT.
Cut me a break and sorry I beat you to it.
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And the official tweet from Samsung was posted in that thread at 9:13 EDT last night, with supporting links from Engadget and others within minutes.
And I'm not in a race, I was trying to point out you needn't have opened this thread before it gets closed.
Goodbye.
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And the official tweet from Samsung was posted in that thread at 9:13 EDT last night, with supporting links from Engadget and others within minutes.
And I'm not in a race, I was trying to point out you needn't have opened this thread before it gets closed.
Goodbye.
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Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is not putting it
in a fruit salad.
Have a nice day!
Edit- Btw your smarties deters new members. Every time you hide in the bushes waiting for someone to say something naive and then jump and ridicule them, you hurt the developers. You see, new people like to donate (they appreciate the work and the help), but people like you make this a sour experience for the newcomer.
No, posting new threads when existing threads cover the same topic you're posting about hurts the developers. It means we need to waste more of our goddamn time dealing with clutter in the forums for new threads that do not justify being a new thread such as:
THERE IS ALREADY A THREAD FOR ICS DISCUSSION AND THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN COVERED THERE.
Edit: IBTL.
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No, posting new threads when existing threads cover the same topic you're posting about hurts the developers. It means we need to waste more of our goddamn time dealing with clutter in the forums for new threads that do not justify being a new thread such as:
THERE IS ALREADY A THREAD FOR ICS DISCUSSION AND THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN COVERED THERE.
Edit: IBTL.
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Sorry for wasting your time (and mine at that). Good luck with all your projects.
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Sorry for wasting your time (and mine at that). Good luck with all your projects.
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How about the waste of space for posting this redundant and unnecessary thread?
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How about the waste of space for posting this redundant and unnecessary thread?
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Anyone else want to take a pot shot at me? typical...ROFL!
Grah grah grah seeing two of the same topic destroys me on the inside!!!
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Anyone else want to take a pot shot at me? typical...ROFL!
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No one will ever do it, but you keep defending your repeated and not necessary thread. BANG!!
I feel obligated to leave a
Inb4lock
But im not going to.....
Lol.. Red 5 has to close like 2 ICS threads daily.. you'd think people get the hint by now
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Red5 lost track
I knew this was going to happen
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I go outside for 5 minutes and this happens?
*picks up ban hammer*